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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
256
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:01:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:Ok enough of this bullshit.
If you have a problem with us / what we have done put your effing money mouth is and use game mechanics to vent your feelings.
War dec the crap out of us and "make us pay for insert reasons here" or stop acting like whiny children.
The whine from SOTF is just as bad that you can't get away scott-free from shitting on your blues. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
89
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:03:00 -
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BolsterBomb wrote:what I am shocked at is that the Gals are not pissed at what SOTF did and more vocal.
Have you been reading my posts in this thread? It's up to 13 pages now. |

Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
260
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:03:00 -
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It seems Bolster is very principle-centered here. But Bolster, are you saying you would never awox one of your own militia members as retribution for what that person did to you or your corp?
I think you know what I'm hinting at here so no need for me to spell it out C'est La Eve :) Gallente Militia -áPVP Corp. Selective recruitment open. http://iamsheriff.com/eagle.html |

failpirate
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
3
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:08:00 -
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all i know is that the last couple days have been fun. |

Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
191
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:09:00 -
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failpirate wrote:all i know is that the last couple days have been fun.
Agreed |

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
229
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:11:00 -
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Tekitha wrote: You seem misinformed friend
Perhaps. Were you RR'ing WBR before the reset? |

FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
153
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:12:00 -
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This thread is pure gold and i'm happily munching popcorn while reading all of this brilliant entertainment.
Amarrian Traitor, pantomime princess, whiny little girl - love the titles.Wow you guys sure care for something that is 'casual pvp' and not 'serious business'.
First off, SOTF & WBR is best spacebrosefs (*smoochie for gall*) - deal with it. (btw Gall should we sort blue :P while were at it?)
Second, you minnies with all your 'casual pvp' trying to 'win the war', imho its nothing but an ego thing, some people in minmatar militia needing to show that their epeen is bigger than the people's in amarr militia. If you really 'win the war' you essentially kill yourselves because there is nothing left to fight you - oh whait you're all going to nullsec amirite?
Third you use your numbers to your advantage and then cry foul when we bring friends in to match your numbers. Before yesterday we were actually happy to have some good ol' fashioned slugfests - hell even outnumbered - just for the fun of combat. After that so-called 'agreement' which apparently i begged for whining like a pantomime princess, i decided i'd had enough of the bullshit and started doing some proper fighting and that we did. We popped your guys left right and center when they tried to take plexes - with next to no losses i might add - and had a blast doing so. Who knew that intercepters supported by high scan-res T3's was going to be so much fun. I had a blast and everybody in amarr militia too - cheers for that.
Lastly, you guys crying foul when somebody doesnt play the game 'the way its meant to be played' is pretty lame and rather whiney and takes your e-peens sizes down quite a couple notches. It was rather hilarious how you all claimed victory in the evening before you had actually taken it - and then never even got close to taking it - and bragged about how many other systems would fall as well while we were busy defending Kamela, that made for some priceless laughs.
Oh and you want Kamela, too bad, you can't have it.
NB. Gall, if the caldari come to kick you out of Nisuwa give me a ring i'll pull all the stops out for you <3
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BolsterBomb
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
53
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:16:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:It seems Bolster is very principle-centered here. But Bolster, are you saying you would never awox one of your own militia members as retribution for what that person did to you or your corp?
I think you know what I'm hinting at here so no need for me to spell it out
Yep I get you. And I see what you are saying however (and this is the difference)
An Inter-Militia War is specifically a WD that everyone sees in advance and is aware of. It also is with a particular group not the entire miltia. If someone declares war within the militia on the militia as a whole I would completely agree with you. The use of WD is the specific game mechanic I mentioned that draws the line in the sand and waves the sabre.
Thats the diffence IMO of an inter militia war (WD) vs open war against your own allied faction.
Chat, yes I see your 13 pages Lt. Colonel of The Caldari State
Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
256
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:16:00 -
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FIRST GENERAL wrote:This thread is pure gold and i'm happily munching popcorn while reading all of this brilliant entertainment.
Amarrian Traitor, pantomime princess, whiny little girl - love the titles.Wow you guys sure care for something that is 'casual pvp' and not 'serious business'.
First off, SOTF & WBR is best spacebrosefs (*smoochie for gall*) - deal with it. (btw Gall should we sort blue :P while were at it?)
Second, you minnies with all your 'casual pvp' trying to 'win the war', imho its nothing but an ego thing, some people in minmatar militia needing to show that their epeen is bigger than the people's in amarr militia. If you really 'win the war' you essentially kill yourselves because there is nothing left to fight you - oh whait you're all going to nullsec amirite?
Third you use your numbers to your advantage and then cry foul when we bring friends in to match your numbers. Before yesterday we were actually happy to have some good ol' fashioned slugfests - hell even outnumbered - just for the fun of combat. After that so-called 'agreement' which apparently i begged for whining like a pantomime princess, i decided i'd had enough of the bullshit and started doing some proper fighting and that we did. We popped your guys left right and center when they tried to take plexes - with next to no losses i might add - and had a blast doing so. Who knew that intercepters supported by high scan-res T3's was going to be so much fun. I had a blast and everybody in amarr militia too - cheers for that.
Lastly, you guys crying foul when somebody doesnt play the game 'the way its meant to be played' is pretty lame and rather whiney and takes your e-peens sizes down quite a couple notches. It was rather hilarious how you all claimed victory in the evening before you had actually taken it - and then never even got close to taking it - and bragged about how many other systems would fall as well while we were busy defending Kamela, that made for some priceless laughs.
Oh and you want Kamela, too bad, you can't have it.
NB. Gall, if the caldari come to kick you out of Nisuwa give me a ring i'll pull all the stops out for you <3
Nothing you listed is what any of the drama is about. If you don't realize that, learn to read. Literally no one is complaining that Amarr put up a good fight: that is literally what we've always wanted, and I think we all agree both sides had a hell of a lot of fun this past week/weekend.
The only "crying" is over SOTF ******* their Minmatar blues over, which is a pretty **** thing to do, no matter if there was some kind of e-honor in helping their WBR lovers. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
155
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:27:00 -
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I guess you need to do some proper reading then too Vordak, because Lock and Gall explained that whole 'reset' thing to the greatest extent.
Oh and btw, i call bullshit on the goodfites thing because hadn't we been able to pull out every stop you would've overrun us without regard, its all about 'winning the war' after all. Read from the beginning again where people say 'but why you guise defending amarrian plexes'? (aimed at SOTF)
E.g.: You didn't infact adapt to come fight us, you tried to plex with having to fight us as little as possible and most of you were also giggling like schoolgirls at us being in T3's outside of your plex gates, unable to come in, while you were running them in thrashers. So many minmatar popped and podded on the acceleration gates in such a short time while you guys were 'winning' indeed.
Read Gall's post again to understand how the whole thing went down with the 'screwing their blues over'. Maybe add something about me being terrible to it if it makes you feel better :) |
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
260
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:41:00 -
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FIRST GENERAL wrote:I guess you need to do some proper reading then too Vordak, because Lock and Gall explained that whole 'reset' thing to the greatest extent.
Oh and btw, i call bullshit on the goodfites thing because hadn't we been able to pull out every stop you would've overrun us without regard, its all about 'winning the war' after all. Read from the beginning again where people say 'but why you guise defending amarrian plexes'? (aimed at SOTF)
E.g.: You didn't infact adapt to come fight us, you tried to plex with having to fight us as little as possible and most of you were also giggling like schoolgirls at us being in T3's outside of your plex gates, unable to come in, while you were running them in thrashers. So many minmatar popped and podded on the acceleration gates in such a short time while you guys were 'winning' indeed.
Read Gall's post again to understand how the whole thing went down with the 'screwing their blues over'. Maybe add something about me being terrible to it if it makes you feel better :)
First General is Terrible. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Salicaz
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
26
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:43:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:FIRST GENERAL wrote:I guess you need to do some proper reading then too Vordak, because Lock and Gall explained that whole 'reset' thing to the greatest extent.
Oh and btw, i call bullshit on the goodfites thing because hadn't we been able to pull out every stop you would've overrun us without regard, its all about 'winning the war' after all. Read from the beginning again where people say 'but why you guise defending amarrian plexes'? (aimed at SOTF)
E.g.: You didn't infact adapt to come fight us, you tried to plex with having to fight us as little as possible and most of you were also giggling like schoolgirls at us being in T3's outside of your plex gates, unable to come in, while you were running them in thrashers. So many minmatar popped and podded on the acceleration gates in such a short time while you guys were 'winning' indeed.
Read Gall's post again to understand how the whole thing went down with the 'screwing their blues over'. Maybe add something about me being terrible to it if it makes you feel better :) First General is Terrible.
Witty comeback.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2384
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:44:00 -
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FIRST GENERAL wrote:This thread is pure gold and i'm happily munching popcorn while reading all of this brilliant entertainment.
I'm with the General on this one. :) Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Calfis
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
110
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:45:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote: oh and btw wbr has had to batphone cva aaa test goons, drunk n disorderly just to hold onto kamela, pro guys real pro
We roll with test and goons? 
News to me 
"Let me tack on a bunch of tags to bolster my argument no matter how little sense it makes" was probably what you were thinking. 
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
260
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:47:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:FIRST GENERAL wrote:I guess you need to do some proper reading then too Vordak, because Lock and Gall explained that whole 'reset' thing to the greatest extent.
Oh and btw, i call bullshit on the goodfites thing because hadn't we been able to pull out every stop you would've overrun us without regard, its all about 'winning the war' after all. Read from the beginning again where people say 'but why you guise defending amarrian plexes'? (aimed at SOTF)
E.g.: You didn't infact adapt to come fight us, you tried to plex with having to fight us as little as possible and most of you were also giggling like schoolgirls at us being in T3's outside of your plex gates, unable to come in, while you were running them in thrashers. So many minmatar popped and podded on the acceleration gates in such a short time while you guys were 'winning' indeed.
Read Gall's post again to understand how the whole thing went down with the 'screwing their blues over'. Maybe add something about me being terrible to it if it makes you feel better :) First General is Terrible. Witty comeback.
He told me to. vOv Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Altaen
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
7
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:59:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Gallactica wrote:Not being nice and setting us -10 is 2 different things,
They have us at -10 therefore are they not classing us as enemies even tho we were happy to be blue?
Can't hav it both ways. You aren't even listening to what I'm saying. This isn't about the Minmatar. This is about you being blue with a known enemy of the Federation. The actions of the Minmatar are irrelevant. You are not listening. Half the minmatars have us set -10 and such kos? Why the hell would we want to assist them?
Just curious, who can you name that had you set -10 before this incident, besides EM? Because, I assure you, we make up a significant degree less than half of the Minmatar militia, and you're only -5 to us anyway... Because I, for the life of me, can't think of a single Minmatar Militia organization besides EM that would give a **** about your RoE.
And, we initially set you red becuase you destroyed a Minmatar militia POCO, and replaced it with your own. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
260
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:01:00 -
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Altaen wrote:Gallactica wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Gallactica wrote:Not being nice and setting us -10 is 2 different things,
They have us at -10 therefore are they not classing us as enemies even tho we were happy to be blue?
Can't hav it both ways. You aren't even listening to what I'm saying. This isn't about the Minmatar. This is about you being blue with a known enemy of the Federation. The actions of the Minmatar are irrelevant. You are not listening. Half the minmatars have us set -10 and such kos? Why the hell would we want to assist them? Just curious, who can you name that had you set -10 before this incident, besides EM? Because, I assure you, we make up a significant degree less than half of the Minmatar militia, and you're only -5 to us anyway... Because I, for the life of me, can't think of a single Minmatar Militia organization besides EM that would give a **** about your RoE.
Apparently we all did, except for, you know, the small, irritating problem of actually being +10 with like, all of Minmatar Militia besides apparently EM. :P Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Alli Othman
Fweddit
13
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:01:00 -
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*popcorn*
Looking forward to setting off all you drama llamas. |

Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
24
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:07:00 -
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WBR have more than earned their bro status with us.
What have you guys with wobbly bottom lips and damp eyes done for us lately? |

Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:07:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:Ok enough of this bullshit.
If you have a problem with us / what we have done put your effing money mouth is and use game mechanics to vent your feelings.
War dec the crap out of us and "make us pay for insert reasons here" or stop acting like whiny children.
Only realistic way to do that would be to join PL or Caldari. I'm not going to do neither the first, nor the second.
Cat Casidy wrote:Desra Mascani wrote:Tekitha wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Then here's some advice for you: don't play factional warfare. An arbitrary CCP mechanic telling you who your friends and enemies should be is the price you pay for being a member of it. Even then, it only tells you who your allies and enemies should be, not who they are. I never said your actions were somehow against the spirit of the game or "illegal", but they're certainly counterproductive and irksome.
We don't "play factional warfare" we play eve, and FW just so happens to be the theatre that most suits our purpose. Nothing more than that, we have no interest in the goings on of FW and it's RP membership above and beyond that which affects our gameplay. Anyway, there goes my trust for SOTF leadership. BTW, you should decide if you stay in FW since it's you who fck it up with your dual loyalty. Now let the damn you ******** RPer answers flow. No damn RPer response here, just a suggestion that you stop being a whiny ***** and thank them for having a place to live, lockout especially who FC'd for at least 12 hours to save every Gal home system in BL.
I know he helped. I was in that fleet. But leading a fleet against the enemy and then helping the same enemy against your allies later is just demented. Or at least seriously bipolar. I'm not whining. I'm just stating my opinion in a hope, that it will help light the fire of outrage in some people and put some pressure on SOTF leadership's consciousness.
Wait.... what consciousness?
And I don't live in Aivonen, Enaluri, Rakapas or Nisuwa.
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Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
192
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:10:00 -
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Desra Mascani wrote: And I don't live in Aivonen, Enaluri, Rakapas or Nisuwa.
Ofc not :) |

Wenron
Rifterlings
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:12:00 -
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I seem to remember the first thing I was told as a complete noob: trust no one in EVE.
Still applies. Still sucks when you have to be reminded of it the hard way. Giving anyone +10 is an invitation for disappointment and should be considered extremely carefully.
And also, the whole idea of capturing systems before DT is a valid strategy and pretty clever. Who says it has to be fair. Eve is not about fair fights or playing nice. Don't set expectations on anyone based on your own moral ethic and you'll be loads happier. My 2 cents.
*popcorn*
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Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:17:00 -
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Lock out wrote:Desra Mascani wrote: And I don't live in Aivonen, Enaluri, Rakapas or Nisuwa.
Ofc not :)
And why the hell would I? That's really a pointless insult when I'm not a member of SOTF, SLAPD or whoever lives there.
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Liosa Rearl
Dewa Brotherhood Lost Obsession
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:19:00 -
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i Lolled. After all the stories and everything =) Can you guys spot the liar and the topic deflection? One side has not changed at all because they are sure of their stance. The other keeps trying to find a hole in the defence. =) I lolled. |

Oppon's Pull
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:27:00 -
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Pretty sure all this rage at SOTF is just a deflection from the fact that the Mins failed to follow through on their promise to drive the Amarr from Kamela. Or Sahtogas. |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2385
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:46:00 -
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Oppon's Pull wrote:Pretty sure all this rage at SOTF is just a deflection from the fact that the Mins failed to follow through on their promise to drive the Amarr from Kamela. Or Sahtogas.
LOL. Our promise? to whom, ourselves? Kamela only ever mattered to us once we'd taken every other system from you guys. You literally left us with nothing else you cared about to take from you.
Kamela was always a long shot because you wisely reinforced your presence there - instead of say, moving everything you owned to Egghelende. Big props to WB for stepping up, playing the game, and defending what mattered to them. Even at the end, we were fighting there cause there was action, it was pretty obvious all along to anyone actually following the plexing point tallies that our chances of seizing it before downtime were slim. "The Battle for Kamela" was *always* about the lulz, plain and simple. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Jones Bones
Imperial Outlaws
53
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:51:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: "The Battle for Kamela" was *always* about the lulz, plain and simple.
Good sir, I would like to inform you that no lulz were had from me. I demand my lulz, I DEMAND THEM.
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Shadow Adanza
Colonial Marines EVE Division Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:54:00 -
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I really don't see what the big fuss is about. It's a game. SoTF did what they wanted to. Big deal. It's over and done with now. I wasn't aware internet space ships mattered this much. Have some laughs about it, joke that you'll shoot at them next time, and move on. Win or lose, it's just a game. Respect your enemies and your teammates. |

Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
103
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:07:00 -
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Oppon's Pull wrote:Pretty sure all this rage at SOTF is just a deflection from the fact that the Mins failed to follow through on their promise to drive the Amarr from Kamela. Or Sahtogas.
Nah, people just don't like us :) |

Mutnin
SQUIDS.
197
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:09:00 -
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Shadow Adanza wrote:I really don't see what the big fuss is about. It's a game. SoTF did what they wanted to. Big deal. It's over and done with now. I wasn't aware internet space ships mattered this much. Have some laughs about it, joke that you'll shoot at them next time, and move on.
I'm sure you guys wouldn't have whined had we had late night alliance or one of the bigger Minmatar group come and remote repair the Caldari guys during say the fight in Rakapass..
There were already whines from Gals about the Russians, so I'm pretty sure had Minmatar been helping us like Sotf helped WB.. Im' sure you guys would have found it in youir hearts to whine over it.  |
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