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Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.09 08:39:00 - [1] So I got really bored last night and started scanning out mission runners with a mission running alt. I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats. I cannot actually claim this is fun, it isn't really... but I got 6 hate mails. Six. I haven't gotten this many hate mails in years. Its quite clear to me that people must be into this for the hate mail, which I get--sort of. That's my brief insight for the quarter. Cheers, -Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work.
Rock urSocksoff Incura	Posted - 2009.07.09 08:46:00 - [2] If you're getting hate mail, then there's a good chance you can get them to shoot you. Originally by: Saluss Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.09 08:49:00 - [3] Originally by: Rock urSocksoff If you're getting hate mail, then there's a good chance you can get them to shoot you. What I considered doing was shooting the triggers then warping out. That would have been good for some lulz. At least for a little an hour or so. -Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work.
Atari Box	Posted - 2009.07.09 09:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Rock urSocksoff If you're getting hate mail, then there's a good chance you can get them to shoot you. What I considered doing was shooting the triggers then warping out. That would have been good for some lulz. At least for a little an hour or so. -Karlemgne Its great fun to use an alt to bump them off there next acceleration gate while you pop all the triggers in the next room and kite them all over to the warp in point. Then you can sit and watch for when the CNR on scan turns into a pod on scan.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.09 09:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Rock urSocksoff If you're getting hate mail, then there's a good chance you can get them to shoot you. What I considered doing was shooting the triggers then warping out. That would have been good for some lulz. At least for a little an hour or so. -Karlemgne Or hit up some level 5 mission runners in low sec.you'll either find a "carebear" with teeth or some idiot that doesn't know what low-sec really means. Either way, from a pvp stand point, it just makes more sense. When there's little to no chance of being fired upon(and in a pve faction fit ship we know it's more like no chance save for the few that just aren't that bright) its just lame and boring. The few times I've jumped into somebodies mission felt just like that. Lame and boring. After all, we all know it's way harder to pop a pvp ship fit with all meta 3-4 modules than it is to pop a pve fully faction fit faction ship, w/tech 2 rigs. Besides, isn't hate mail from a level 5 mission runner in low-sec a lot more gratifying than a level 2 mission runner in high-sec? Also, seeing as it looks to be a new thing for you, most of this rant is obviously aimed elsewhere. Just tired of hearing "ninja" salvagers/ mission jumpers and can flippers talk about "carebears" like they aren't carebears themselves. Here's some news, until you start doing it in low/null sec you are a carebear. And for those that do it in low and null sec, well, I respect that. Furthermore, if you do it in low and null sec and come to high sec every now and then because maybe you had a bad streak and need to replenish your wallet by suiciding some hulks, flipping a few cans, or even ninja salvaging a mission runner I respect that too. "Carebears" should have the sense not to mine into cans and to bring defense(every corp/alliance should have a group of pvpers), excepting, ofcourse, brand new npc corp players. This rant is dedicated explicitly to those people that do nothing but high-sec "piracy". And there are a lot of you. Stop running every time I warp into the belt in my Taranis/Rifter/Tristan/Hurricane/etc. If you're going to flip the can and I flip it from you grow some balls, you were fit to fight a near defenseless miner, as your sticking around in belt points out. Not to say I mind waiting a few minutes before going to get my hauler(miners always seem to run too leaving their ore) I don't mind at all. [Newsflash, if you're a miner, you get can-flipped, and I flip the can flipper's can I will give half back if you ask. The other half is payment and a reminder of why jet can mining is stupid.] __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.09 10:10:00 - [6] I once found an aspect of Eve I didn't enjoy much. I started a thread on it. -Tiny Tove
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 11:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 snip I liked Zaphod Beeblebroxes 1 through 41 more.
Dex Allen Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.09 12:05:00 - [8] I once saw a really pretty rock in space.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.09 12:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 snip I liked Zaphod Beeblebroxes 1 through 41 more. Aww, did the widdle ninja get her feewings huwt? Guessing you must be a carebear ninja. Otherwise you probably wouldn't have a problem with anything I typed. Ooh, server is back up, You better hurry before someone else loots and salvages that 2 day old player's mission that you know won't shoot you, or if they did would melt to whatever pvp ship you come back with, as if it'd even be necessary. __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 12:47:00 - [10] Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss
Galmarr Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 12:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Karlemgne I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats. -Karlemgne Sure thats a lot of fun. Lots of risk there (cough/choke). The whole point is to salvage or loot and try to get the mr to shoot a defenseless frigate. Try that, then troll the forum. What fool would shoot at a CNR unprovoked. I dont think it was hate mail, but sympathy cards. No you are not getting the whole Ninja thing.
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Galmarr The whole point is to salvage or loot and try to get the mr to shoot a defenseless frigate. Try that, then troll the forum. Yeah you can't possibly come to the forum before trying such a hardcore, badass thing. It's so full of risk. Like russian roulette just more badass.
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:04:00 - [13] Where are people getting this idea that when engaging in piracy you should subject yourself to as much risk as possible?
Galmarr Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Where are people getting this idea that when engaging in piracy you should subject yourself to as much risk as possible? Exactly! We want isk and fun with SOME risk to keep it interesting, not extreme risk.
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:25:00 - [15] I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, little fun seeking ninja. Was merely playing along with your post's intonation...
leboe Dark Star Cartel	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:48:00 - [16] The first time I invaded a mission (simple steal, get aggro, return in neutronthron) I got a rohk kill and a 250mil bounty. Wish I could do more of it
Paul Clavet Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 15:02:00 - [17] Your respect is not a prerequisite to my enjoyment of Eve. Sorry. ---- Suddenly Ninjas Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Kybernis Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 15:05:00 - [18] Maybe it would be helpful if we had a module that allowed us to salvage something valuable from Zaphod's post. Some days I think people forget why it is that banks get robbed.
Inat Mivea	Posted - 2009.07.09 16:42:00 - [19] as a 'amateur' ninja salvager, I can say that it is so much more entertaining of a way to make Isk. I wouldnt have stuck it out in Eve is I had to mine for a living. Oh and I got called a gypsy in local yesterday. it made me laugh.
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.09 17:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Inat Mivea as a 'amateur' ninja salvager, I can say that it is so much more entertaining of a way to make Isk. I wouldnt have stuck it out in Eve is I had to mine for a living. Oh and I got called a gypsy in local yesterday. it made me laugh. sounds racist ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Inat Mivea	Posted - 2009.07.09 17:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Awesome Possum Originally by: Inat Mivea as a 'amateur' ninja salvager, I can say that it is so much more entertaining of a way to make Isk. I wouldnt have stuck it out in Eve is I had to mine for a living. Oh and I got called a gypsy in local yesterday. it made me laugh. sounds racist i think someone else pointed that out to him :)
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.07.09 17:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Kybernis Some days I think people forget why it is that banks get robbed. Originally by: Willie "The Actor" Sutton Because that's where the money is. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 17:22:00 - [23] Only carebears rob banks. Real robbers rob military bases and mafia strongholds ONLY.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 Edited by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 on 09/07/2009 12:06:41 Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Rock urSocksoff If you're getting hate mail, then there's a good chance you can get them to shoot you. What I considered doing was shooting the triggers then warping out. That would have been good for some lulz. At least for a little an hour or so. -Karlemgne Or hit up some level 5 mission runners in low sec.you'll either find a "carebear" with teeth or some idiot that doesn't know what low-sec really means. Either way, from a pvp stand point, it just makes more sense. When there's little to no chance of being fired upon(and in a pve faction fit ship we know it's more like no chance save for the few that just aren't that bright) its just lame and boring. The few times I've jumped into somebodies mission felt just like that. Lame and boring. After all, we all know it's way harder to pop a pvp ship fit with all meta 3-4 modules than it is to pop a pve fully faction fit faction ship, w/tech 2 rigs. Besides, isn't hate mail from a level 5 mission runner in low-sec a lot more gratifying than a level 2 mission runner in high-sec? Also, seeing as it looks to be a new thing for you, most of this rant is obviously aimed elsewhere. Just tired of hearing "ninja" salvagers/ mission jumpers and can flippers talk about "carebears" like they aren't carebears themselves. Here's some news, until you start doing it in low/null sec you are a carebear. And for those that do it in low and null sec, well, I respect that. Furthermore, if you do it in low and null sec and come to high sec every now and then because maybe you had a bad streak and need to replenish your wallet by suiciding some hulks, flipping a few cans, or even ninja salvaging a mission runner I respect that too. "Carebears" should have the sense not to mine into cans and to bring defense(every corp/alliance should have a group of pvpers), excepting, ofcourse, brand new npc corp players. This rant is dedicated explicitly to those people that do nothing but high-sec "piracy". And there are a lot of you. Stop running every time I warp into the belt in my Taranis/Rifter/Tristan/Hurricane/etc. If you're going to flip the can and I flip it from you grow some balls, you were fit to fight a near defenseless miner, as your sticking around in belt points out. Not to say I mind waiting a few minutes before going to get my hauler(miners always seem to run too leaving their ore) I don't mind at all. [Newsflash, if you're a miner, you get can-flipped, and I flip the can flipper's can I will give half back if you ask. The other half is payment and a reminder of why jet can mining is stupid.] edit: Almost forgot, this doesn't apply to flipping/suiciding macro miners. Screw the bots. ::cough:: ::cough:: Look at my security status. Most days I completely agree with your sentiment and have expressed as much here, which is why I made this thread. It was only after doing the activity and getting the hate mail that I started to understand the gankbears--a little. My sig don't fracking work.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Tiny Tove I once found an aspect of Eve I didn't enjoy much. I started a thread on it. -Tiny Tove I've been pretty vocal about my distaste for the gankbear crowd; however, I made this thread precisely because I've been so vocal about it--I understand them a bit better now, and I'm trying to not be as hostile. Though it is good to know that C&P remains C&P and the flaming trollish trash will come out for every thread no matter what it says. Tbh, this is one of the main reasons I stopped posting in this channel. -Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Galmarr Originally by: Karlemgne I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats. -Karlemgne Sure thats a lot of fun. Lots of risk there (cough/choke). The whole point is to salvage or loot and try to get the mr to shoot a defenseless frigate. Try that, then troll the forum. What fool would shoot at a CNR unprovoked. I dont think it was hate mail, but sympathy cards. No you are not getting the whole Ninja thing. To be honest here, again I was trying to emphasize with you guys and to say that I had possibly misjudged the activity on a certain level... But since you opened this door... First of all, Mr. Suddenly Ninja, the goal for you is really to try and get people to shoot at you? Strangely enough in the many times, and I mean many times, that I have encountered your corporation in my missions I've had stuff stolen out of my can one time. That's right--a single time. So spare me the lecture about what your "goals" when your corporation never tried to get me to shoot at them in their many opportunities to do so. Second of all, Mr. Gankbear, there is this very wonderful idiomatic expression in English that goes something like: "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." I think that this applies most assuredly to you. You want to make a comment about the lack of "danger" in an activity? Really? You? The people who hang out in hi-sec and flip cans so you can kill that solo mission runner in his PvE fit ship? The people whose idea of a good time is trying to trick someone into getting concorded? And you're saying it to me... a pirate. You know, the real kind, that lives in low-sec and blows up people in pvp fit ships. Yeah. I thought so. My sig don't fracking work.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:25:00 - [27] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Where are people getting this idea that when engaging in piracy you should subject yourself to as much risk as possible? Obviously you want to minimize risk to a certain extent. So of course, in my line of work--real piracy--you don't want to undock in your 5 man gang into 50 people camping your station. That said, for most us in my experience, while we gank people are really in it for the pvp. We aren't in it for the hatemails, though those are fun, or the making of crying carebears. We're in it because its ****ing fun to engage a 5 man BS gang with your 5 man BS gang and come out on top. Its fun to undock when your outnumbered and getting into a fight that you just barely win--or lose. That's the whole point, and the "riskier" it is--or rather, the more even the fight and the more skilled your opponent the more fun it is. Incidentally, its also more fun trying to catch mission runners who are running in low-sec and being very cautious. Much more rewarding than my little experience last night--scanprobes out and I've got 10 ships! That and you don't have to flip their cans when you find them. You can warp in with guns blazzing. -Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work.
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Karlemgne First of all, Mr. Suddenly Ninja, the goal for you is really to try and get people to shoot at you? Strangely enough in the many times, and I mean many times, that I have encountered your corporation in my missions I've had stuff stolen out of my can one time. That's right--a single time. So spare me the lecture about what your "goals" when your corporation never tried to get me to shoot at them in their many opportunities to do so. Just because people aren't looting your cans doesn't mean they wouldn't enjoy it if you shot at them.
Gin G Halls Of Valhalla	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:55:00 - [29] its not really ninja salvaging but your getting there :) Please refrain from editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
FievelGoesPostal Gallente The Giant Squid Corp.	Posted - 2009.07.09 19:00:00 - [30] ToW dont need any pointers on L5 runners ;) o/ karl
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.07.09 19:01:00 - [31] Stupid argument ITT. The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments
Hanso Sparxx Deep Penetration Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.09 20:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Galmarr Originally by: Karlemgne I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats. -Karlemgne Sure thats a lot of fun. Lots of risk there (cough/choke). The whole point is to salvage or loot and try to get the mr to shoot a defenseless frigate. Try that, then troll the forum. What fool would shoot at a CNR unprovoked. I dont think it was hate mail, but sympathy cards. No you are not getting the whole Ninja thing. To be honest here, again I was trying to emphasize with you guys and to say that I had possibly misjudged the activity on a certain level... But since you opened this door... First of all, Mr. Suddenly Ninja, the goal for you is really to try and get people to shoot at you? Strangely enough in the many times, and I mean many times, that I have encountered your corporation in my missions I've had stuff stolen out of my can one time. That's right--a single time. So spare me the lecture about what your "goals" when your corporation never tried to get me to shoot at them in their many opportunities to do so. Second of all, Mr. Gankbear, there is this very wonderful idiomatic expression in English that goes something like: "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." I think that this applies most assuredly to you. You want to make a comment about the lack of "danger" in an activity? Really? You? The people who hang out in hi-sec and flip cans so you can kill that solo mission runner in his PvE fit ship? The people whose idea of a good time is trying to trick someone into getting concorded? And you're saying it to me... a pirate. You know, the real kind, that lives in low-sec and blows up people in pvp fit ships. Yeah. I thought so. omgomgomg! Everyone run, this here is a REAL P-P-P-P-P-Pirate!!!! ------------------ Go Deep!
Nel Tu Minmatar Eye of Osiris	Posted - 2009.07.09 21:31:00 - [33] I ninja salvaged someones L3 in a dessy once. They were in a cyclone, I was in a thrasher. It was suddenly hilarious when he shot at me with his big strong artys, and I orbitted at 1000m and popped him with ACs. Much lulz were had. Salvage sucked though =/ ============== Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.09 21:42:00 - [34] Yay! I opened up a can of worms! Originally by: Nel Tu I ninja salvaged someones L3 in a dessy once. They were in a cyclone, I was in a thrasher. It was suddenly hilarious when he shot at me with his big strong artys, and I orbitted at 1000m and popped him with ACs. Much lulz were had. Salvage sucked though =/ So you ran into a mission runner with obviously no pvp experience that was flying a pve ship, got him to shoot at a ship he had no chance of killing with his fit, and you're bragging about killing him? That sound about right? __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2009.07.09 22:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 Yay! I opened up a can of worms! Originally by: Nel Tu I ninja salvaged someones L3 in a dessy once. They were in a cyclone, I was in a thrasher. It was suddenly hilarious when he shot at me with his big strong artys, and I orbitted at 1000m and popped him with ACs. Much lulz were had. Salvage sucked though =/ So you ran into a mission runner with obviously no pvp experience that was flying a pve ship, got him to shoot at a ship he had no chance of killing with his fit, and you're bragging about killing him? That sound about right? Thank you captain obvious...any other stunning declarations of the obvious that you'd like to share with the class? -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Commander Yassir Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2009.07.09 22:23:00 - [36] Edited by: Commander Yassir on 09/07/2009 22:24:34 Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 Yay! I opened up a can of worms! Originally by: Nel Tu I ninja salvaged someones L3 in a dessy once. They were in a cyclone, I was in a thrasher. It was suddenly hilarious when he shot at me with his big strong artys, and I orbitted at 1000m and popped him with ACs. Much lulz were had. Salvage sucked though =/ So you ran into a mission runner with obviously no pvp experience that was flying a pve ship, got him to shoot at a ship he had no chance of killing with his fit, and you're bragging about killing him? That sound about right? Thank you captain obvious...any other stunning declarations of the obvious that you'd like to share with the class? Oh pick me! Pick me! Most ninjas are in it for the isk not the the risk, and the hate, the hate is good. Also the sky is the color of carebear tears, hisec 'pirates' are allergic to rum, and your sig is way to big. Edit:These forums suck... ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.09 23:18:00 - [37] Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 Yay! I opened up a can of worms! Originally by: Nel Tu I ninja salvaged someones L3 in a dessy once. They were in a cyclone, I was in a thrasher. It was suddenly hilarious when he shot at me with his big strong artys, and I orbitted at 1000m and popped him with ACs. Much lulz were had. Salvage sucked though =/ So you ran into a mission runner with obviously no pvp experience that was flying a pve ship, got him to shoot at a ship he had no chance of killing with his fit, and you're bragging about killing him? That sound about right? Thank you captain obvious...any other stunning declarations of the obvious that you'd like to share with the class? Sure, water is wet. Fire is hot. Pain hurts. "Gankbears" are lame. __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2009.07.09 23:44:00 - [38] Originally by: Zaphod Beeblebrox42 Sure, water is wet. Fire is hot. Pain hurts. "Gankbears" are lame. Badump-bump -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.10 01:44:00 - [39] Edited by: Karlemgne on 10/07/2009 01:44:44 Originally by: Hanso Sparxx omgomgomg! Everyone run, this here is a REAL P-P-P-P-P-Pirate!!!! And thanks to the wonderful school systems in ::insert the place you live here:: reading comprehension in eve-online is at an all time low. Thanks for ignoring the entire context of my post. I'll recap for you: Karlemgne: Yeah it was interesting to scan out a mission and then shoot at the runners rats. I got hate mail. That's kind of neat I guess. Gankbear: OHH! Scary!! You shot at the guys rats! That's risky! Lulz, nub! You're supposed to do something dangerous and try to get the mission runner to shoot at you! Karlemgne: I'll point out the irony of that statement. You're telling a guy who lives in low-sec and makes fights real life pvpers that I'm not being risky enough? Really? You sit in high-sec and try to get people to accidentally concord themselves. Hanso: OH! OH! OH! He's a real pirate! What an ass. There you go, the history of our conversation. Somehow I doubt you'll actually comprehend it though--even after my simplification. -Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work.
Rock urSocksoff Incura	Posted - 2009.07.10 01:51:00 - [40] Originally by: Lady Spank Stupid argument ITT. Agreeing with Spank Originally by: Saluss Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.10 02:12:00 - [41] Quote: a guy who lives in low-sec and fights real life pvpers i giggled ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.10 03:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Awesome Possum Quote: a guy who lives in low-sec and fights real life pvpers i giggled You 0.0 guys clearly "push your function keys harder." I'd like to thank my corpmate Aydae for clearing that one up for me. Cheers, -K My sig don't fracking work.
PostmasterGeneral Minmatar yo i'm posting	Posted - 2009.07.10 05:15:00 - [43] oh your name must be going for charlemagne and you just completely missed the boat on that one~
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.10 06:26:00 - [44] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Awesome Possum Quote: a guy who lives in low-sec and fights real life pvpers i giggled You 0.0 guys clearly "push your function keys harder." I'd like to thank my corpmate Aydae for clearing that one up for me. Cheers, -K Sorry, 4 month old nub here.. whats this o.o you speak of? Is it near Jita? ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Lana Hellfury Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.07.10 06:32:00 - [45] Originally by: Awesome Possum Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Awesome Possum Quote: a guy who lives in low-sec and fights real life pvpers i giggled You 0.0 guys clearly "push your function keys harder." I'd like to thank my corpmate Aydae for clearing that one up for me. Cheers, -K Sorry, 4 month old nub here.. whats this o.o you speak of? Is it near Jita? Yes it is... But I consider Dodixie 'near' Jita as well...
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.10 06:45:00 - [46] I tried leaving Dixie once... local's too quiet everywhere else. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.07.10 06:52:00 - [47] 0.0 more liek o_O The best thing about these purity of profession arguments is the implication that people only do one thing in the game (and that it's the coolest thing to do). Possum if I ever get voice comms working I'll get you out to 0.0 for some mischief. The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.10 08:06:00 - [48] Originally by: PostmasterGeneral oh your name must be going for charlemagne and you just completely missed the boat on that one~ Actually not really. Its more of an ode to Karl Marx than it is to Charles the Great. And it makes me a sad monkey you don't know who I am. I used to get "hey look its the guy from the forums" in local every other day. Them were the days. -Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work.
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.10 09:23:00 - [49] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: Tiny Tove I once found an aspect of Eve I didn't enjoy much. I started a thread on it. -Tiny Tove I've been pretty vocal about my distaste for the gankbear crowd; however, I made this thread precisely because I've been so vocal about it--I understand them a bit better now, and I'm trying to not be as hostile. Though it is good to know that C&P remains C&P and the flaming trollish trash will come out for every thread no matter what it says. Tbh, this is one of the main reasons I stopped posting in this channel. -Karlemgne By all means, stop posting in this channel. As a very long standing troll with Forum Moderation immunity it's unlikely you'll actually be able to. -Your name is on the left. We know it's you.
Riedle	Posted - 2009.07.10 12:05:00 - [50] And I wasn't going to bring it up, but since he wants to seem all educated-like, he uses 'Emphasize' ie: To draw attention to - instead of what he meant to say, which is to show empathy. Now who is the pseudo intellectual communist? Sigh, such an over done cliche - at least be original. ~Riedle
AltBier Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.10 12:38:00 - [51] Edited by: AltBier on 10/07/2009 12:42:50 Originally by: Atari Box Originally by: Karlemgne What I considered doing was shooting the triggers then warping out. That would have been good for some lulz. At least for a little an hour or so. Its great fun to use an alt to bump them off there next acceleration gate while you pop all the triggers in the next room and kite them all over to the warp in point. Then you can sit and watch for when the CNR on scan turns into a pod on scan. Saving this for the next time someone says mission running is risk free. Quote: The only honor in PVP is that which you bring with you.
Hanso Sparxx Deep Penetration Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.10 12:55:00 - [52] Originally by: Karlemgne Edited by: Karlemgne on 10/07/2009 01:46:02 Edited by: Karlemgne on 10/07/2009 01:44:44 Originally by: Hanso Sparxx omgomgomg! Everyone run, this here is a REAL P-P-P-P-P-Pirate!!!! And thanks to the wonderful school systems in ::insert the place you live here:: reading comprehension in eve-online is at an all time low. Thanks for ignoring the entire context of my post. I'll recap for you: Karlemgne: Yeah it was interesting to scan out a mission and then shoot at the runners rats. I got hate mail. That's kind of neat I guess. Gankbear: OHH! Scary!! You shot at the guys rats! That's risky! Lulz, nub! You're supposed to do something dangerous and try to get the mission runner to shoot at you! Karlemgne: I'll point out the irony of that statement. You're telling a guy who lives in low-sec and fights real life pvpers that I'm not being risky enough, and I am thus a 'loser'? Really? You sit in high-sec and try to get people to accidentally concord themselves. Hanso: OH! OH! OH! He's a real pirate! What an ass. There you go, the history of our conversation. Somehow I doubt you'll actually comprehend it though--even after my simplification. -Karlemgne Wow, I didn't know it was that easy to extract tears from a real p-p-p-p-pirate! ITT - tears because people don't play the game the way you want them to play. You are assuming that, because you ONLY pirate, that ninja salvagers ONLY try to gank noobs. I do something different every day. That's what I love about this game is it's diversity and I am not limited to one style of play. One day, I might decide to flip cans. It's fun! Tomorrow, I may suicide a random retriever for laughs. It's fun! The next day, I might run lowsec and see if I can pop me some red flashies - which btw, is a lot easier than ganking noob mission runners. Don't delude yourself there honey. Next week, I might initiate a vote to wardec some random 100+ member empire alliance with my 1 man alt corp. It's fun! I've even gone to 0.0 and camp other people's mobile warp bubbles. It's fun! You think you're badass cus you only do one aspect of the game, and your tears suggest you do it rather poorly. You should get out of your shell and explore some other aspects of this game. ------------------ Go Deep!
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.07.10 14:35:00 - [53] Damn. This turned into a real thread while I wasn't looking. I'm going to have to quit my job so I can watch the forums more closely. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Barakkus	Posted - 2009.07.10 14:58:00 - [54] How does one pvp irl? I wouldn't mind getting away with ganking randoms on the street :)
Housta Jernmarra Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.07.10 16:12:00 - [55] Originally by: Barakkus How does one pvp irl? I wouldn't mind getting away with ganking randoms on the street :) maybe not on the street but ..... "Passengers are paying about $5,700 a day to patrol the waters off Somalia in heavily armed private yachts, hoping to attract the attention of pirates. Then, when the bad guys get close, the badder guys open fire with grenade launchers, machine guns, and rocket launchers. The yachts come with body guards, who are allegedly "a squad of ex special forces troops," and, for about $20 a day extra, you can use an AK-47 and 100 rounds of ammo. "They are worse than the pirates," the article quotes a Russian yachtsman named Vladimir Mironov. "At least the pirates have the decency to take hostages, these people are just paying to commit murder." (From CNBC.com) Hmm, wonder if they have a killboard ? Or maybe they mount human heads over their fireplaces when they get home.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.10 20:47:00 - [56] Originally by: Housta Jernmarra Originally by: Barakkus How does one pvp irl? I wouldn't mind getting away with ganking randoms on the street :) maybe not on the street but ..... "Passengers are paying about $5,700 a day to patrol the waters off Somalia in heavily armed private yachts, hoping to attract the attention of pirates. Then, when the bad guys get close, the badder guys open fire with grenade launchers, machine guns, and rocket launchers. The yachts come with body guards, who are allegedly "a squad of ex special forces troops," and, for about $20 a day extra, you can use an AK-47 and 100 rounds of ammo. "They are worse than the pirates," the article quotes a Russian yachtsman named Vladimir Mironov. "At least the pirates have the decency to take hostages, these people are just paying to commit murder." (From CNBC.com) Hmm, wonder if they have a killboard? Or maybe they mount human heads over their fireplaces when they get home. Sadly, I'm sure they do, of some sort. Blowing up internet spaceships is one thing, killing people, especially for sport, is just wrong. Sure, the pirates in their boats looking to rob, and probably ransom the owners are wrong and immoral, but the people baiting them just so they can kill them are as bad if not worse. __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.07.10 21:17:00 - [57] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.10 21:39:00 - [58] Originally by: Hanso Sparxx Wow, I didn't know it was that easy to extract tears from a real p-p-p-p-pirate! Pointing out your lack of reading comprehension, and the general idiocy of what goes on in C&P (why I stopped my forum whoring here many moons ago) does not qualify as tears. Quote: ITT - tears because people don't play the game the way you want them to play. Again, as I've probably said a bazillion times (yes no hyperbole there really a bazillion) I don't care how anyone plays the game. Truthfully I always sort of looked down on the ninja salvagers--mainly because of their chest beating--but initially this thread was a tip of the hat to them. I tried it and got hate mail. Hate mail is nice. I understand a bit better. Our particular discussion however began when, as a response to this thread, a particular gankbear tried to make fun of me for not being "risky enough" in my foray into ninja missioning. So the topic of "risk" was broached by them, not me, and in a rather hostile manner. At that point it was entirely appropriate--which you still seem to be unable to comprehend--to respond on that particular posters own terms. There is some amount of irony there, and to deny it is to sit in the mud and claim the world is flat. Quote: You are assuming that, because you ONLY pirate, that ninja salvagers ONLY try to gank noobs. Please show me where exactly I claimed this to be the case? Because I responded as I did when someone ASSUMED that because I didn't flip a can in high-sec I was risk averse? Please. But lets be completely honest with ourselves. While I am sure that there is more to the ninja salvagers life than picking on "noobs" or people with no experience pvping, you forget I have many high-sec alts--including this mission runner I was discussing in the original post. I know high-sec looks like. I also know that suddenly Ninja's, at least, have only ever flipped a loot can on my high-sec bountied mission runner once--when they had like 15 people in my mission. Taking them and there claim at face value--that their policy is to TRY and get the mission runner to shoot at them--I can only assume that there lack of flipping my cans in my dozen or so encounters with them has to do with my mission runner having a sizable bounty and thus appearing more scary than your standard missioner. Quote: I do something different every day. That's what I love about this game is it's diversity and I am not limited to one style of play. Good for you. You aren't alone. Many of us have multiple accounts where each focuses on a different aspect of the game. Quote: One day, I might decide to flip cans. It's fun! Please point out where I ever claimed that this activity was not, in any circumstance fun. Quote: The next day, I might run lowsec and see if I can pop me some red flashies - which btw, is a lot easier than ganking noob mission runners. Don't delude yourself there honey. Bull***. Easier in the sense that you don't have to trick someone into agroing you and that red flashies are probably LOOKING for a fight. You're statement is prima facie* ridiculous. Anyone who kills mission runners, and we have those in low-sec so don't fool yourself "honey," is harder than killing people specifically fit to kill other players, and who are experienced in fighting other players in this game, is full of hot air. Quote: You think you're badass cus you only do one aspect of the game, and your tears suggest you do it rather poorly. Please show me where I think I am "badass" because I'm a pirate. Your only evidence for this is found lifting parts of this thread out of context--which as we've discussed you're good at. As for the last part of that statement... you can take Giantsquids word for how "bad" we are, as already posted in this tread, or you can google our killboard. Alternatively, you can come visit us in Placid and I'll show you first hand. My sig don't fracking work.
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.11 00:04:00 - [59] Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ How do you feel about meathooks on the first date?
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.07.11 00:39:00 - [60] Can we let this thread die now and all go troll another one. please? Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Hatsumi Kobayashi Caldari Corporation 12345 Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.07.11 00:55:00 - [61] Originally by: Hanso Sparxx omgomgomg! Everyone run, this here is a REAL P-P-P-P-P-Pirate!!!! You stole my corp name therefore I hate you and your opinions forever. (and ever) ______
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.07.11 01:02:00 - [62] Originally by: RedSplat Can we let this thread die now and all go troll another one. please? This is the problem with this forum channel, and always has been. It doesn't matter what the content of a post, even if someone, as was the case here, was trying to build some common ground, one group of regulars will come in and flame/troll the original post and then another group will come flame the first group. That and logic always reduces the trolls to name calling. Gotta love that. -K My sig don't fracking work.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.11 01:55:00 - [63] Originally by: RedSplat Can we let this thread die now and all go troll another one. please? Well, since you asked politely. Besides, I know I got everything out I wanted to say. Also, I'd like to apologize to the OP for inadvertently hijacking his thread. After I finish grinding standing for a jump clone(can't afford to lose another billion+ in implants) I'll come and pretend to be a low-sec miner in placid. You don't think the Taranis would blow my cover, do you? __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.07.11 11:56:00 - [64] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ How do you feel about meathooks on the first date? Get your meathooks off my man The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.11 13:10:00 - [65] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ How do you feel about meathooks on the first date? Get your meathooks off my man I'll just have to warp into your deadspace and salvage him after you blow him up
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.07.11 13:17:00 - [66] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Misanth Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ How do you feel about meathooks on the first date? Get your meathooks off my man I'll just have to warp into your deadspace and salvage him after you blow him up Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: RedSplat Can we let this thread die now and all go troll another one. please? This is the problem with this forum channel, and always has been. It doesn't matter what the content of a post, even if someone, as was the case here, was trying to build some common ground, one group of regulars will come in and flame/troll the original post and then another group will come flame the first group. That and logic always reduces the trolls to name calling. Gotta love that. -K ..how exactly is that a problem? - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Nel Tu Minmatar Eye of Osiris	Posted - 2009.07.12 08:50:00 - [67] Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ How do you feel about meathooks on the first date? I want you. Srsly, right now. ============== Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
Fourty Niner	Posted - 2009.07.12 12:38:00 - [68] We are talking about two different things here, ninja salvaging, and carebear aggroing. The whole point of ninja salvageing is to go in with a fast frigate, salvage as much as you possibly can, even to the point of kiting the NPC agroo, and then leave and go to the next salvage target. It is infact "carebearing", the player target isnt going to shoot at you, cos hes knows he (1: Probably dont have tackle, 2: Isnt gonna be able to kill you b4 warp out, 3: Is then gonna be jumped by something big in warp to station and back plus 30, cos he assumes you are a Nija aggroer) Then there is Ninja aggroing, which seems the same except the "salvage" isnt the main aim, so you take more time to salvage, buzz the player a bit, blatently try to steal the mission critical item. What the original poster has done is neither. http://BIGLottery.BIG-EVE.com
Kylira Ulfrinn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.13 13:56:00 - [69] Originally by: Nel Tu I want you. Srsly, right now. There's a cage in my cargo hold with your name on it.
Zaphod Beeblebrox42	Posted - 2009.07.13 15:47:00 - [70] Originally by: Nel Tu Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Kylira Ulfrinn Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to an internet spaceships bad*ss Whoa. If I wasn't totally sold on Lady Spank I'd so ask you out. ♥ How do you feel about meathooks on the first date? I want you. Srsly, right now. __________________ Look, a forum alt!
Lazy Eyeh Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.13 18:11:00 - [71] Dear Karlemgnesndosn, I've been playing EVE for a month, and even I can see how you FAIL at EVE and life. Ninja salvaging does not include: "I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats." You've stated over and over in this thread that people don't have good reading comprehension; however it is quite obvious that you have no idea what a ninja salvager does. So please STFU. You, sir, are a bull****ter. If 15 ninjas entered your mission, I guarantee that you have no wrecks or loot left after we warp out. If it was one ninja, I wouldn't be surprised. Please stop with these stupid posts. Thank you.
Xenophanes Colophon	Posted - 2009.07.13 19:02:00 - [72] Originally by: Lazy Eyeh Dear Karlemgnesndosn, I've been playing EVE for a month, and even I can see how you FAIL at EVE and life. Ninja salvaging does not include: "I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats." You've stated over and over in this thread that people don't have good reading comprehension; however it is quite obvious that you have no idea what a ninja salvager does. So please STFU. You, sir, are a bull****ter. If 15 ninjas entered your mission, I guarantee that you have no wrecks or loot left after we warp out. If it was one ninja, I wouldn't be surprised. Please stop with these stupid posts. Thank you. wow, that provided nothing and just seemed spiteful. 1/10. I, on behalf of Al Gore, the man who discoverd the internet, hereby revoke you intewebz.
Lazy Eyeh Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.13 19:22:00 - [73] Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Originally by: Lazy Eyeh Dear Karlemgnesndosn, I've been playing EVE for a month, and even I can see how you FAIL at EVE and life. Ninja salvaging does not include: "I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats." You've stated over and over in this thread that people don't have good reading comprehension; however it is quite obvious that you have no idea what a ninja salvager does. So please STFU. You, sir, are a bull****ter. If 15 ninjas entered your mission, I guarantee that you have no wrecks or loot left after we warp out. If it was one ninja, I wouldn't be surprised. Please stop with these stupid posts. Thank you. wow, that provided nothing and just seemed spiteful. 1/10. I, on behalf of Al Gore, the man who discoverd the internet, hereby revoke you intewebz. How ironic.
Xenophanes Colophon	Posted - 2009.07.13 19:37:00 - [74] Originally by: Lazy Eyeh How ironic. What? My content lacking post about lacking content? It's okay though, I have a legitimate excuse, I'm on really strong painkillers. Surgery is a .
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2009.07.13 19:37:00 - [75] Originally by: Lazy Eyeh Dear Karlemgnesndosn, I've been playing EVE for a month, and even I can see how you FAIL at EVE and life. Ninja salvaging does not include: "I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats." You've stated over and over in this thread that people don't have good reading comprehension; however it is quite obvious that you have no idea what a ninja salvager does. So please STFU. You, sir, are a bull***ter. If 15 ninjas entered your mission, I guarantee that you have no wrecks or loot left after we warp out. If it was one ninja, I wouldn't be surprised. Please stop with these stupid posts. Thank you. Now now...he's actually correct. Those of us of the ninja persuasion and could actually run our own L4 missions have more than once 'helped' a mission runner with his mission, especially if he just sits there refusing to create wrecks. (Or if he just sits there blowing up wrecks. If you make wrecks faster than he can blow them up, its even more win-full) (Heck, at one point I had a runner come back in a salvage boat to loot and salvage because I was doing the mission faster than he was ) Stealing the final blow on rats is also a favorite pass time of mine if I'm in the mood. Let the runner blow off the majority of the armor and shield and hull then pop. (So not only are you getting the loot and salvage..you're getting the bounties as well) Not everyone ninjas missions exactly the way Suddenly Ninjas do. (Although if memory serves, the proper term for ninja-ing the bounties is 'mission hijacking') -- Originally by:* "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.07.13 21:00:00 - [76] I am frequently told I am doing it wrong. My wallet and inbox say otherwise. The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments
Hot Trim Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.13 21:17:00 - [77] Originally by: Lady Spank I am frequently told I am doing it wrong. My wallet and inbox say otherwise. QFT
Lazy Eyeh Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.13 21:46:00 - [78] Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Originally by: Lazy Eyeh How ironic. What? My content lacking post about lacking content? It's okay though, I have a legitimate excuse, I'm on really strong painkillers. Surgery is a . lol feel better, mate.
Lazy Eyeh Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.13 21:47:00 - [79] Originally by: Lady Spank I am frequently told I am doing it wrong. My wallet and inbox say otherwise. That's nothing that some experience and ointment can't cure.
Taua Roqa Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.07.14 00:54:00 - [80] the only times i've done it the mission runner ended up talking to me and we started chatting about random stuff for ages, quite friendly like. i guess i don't value the hate mail 'cos i'm not an emotional cretin. It's desperately pathetic; both ways.
kano donn	Posted - 2009.07.14 06:15:00 - [81] sry started to read and a question hit me. i didnt read page 2 and 3 but whatever so what is all this talk of risk? why would people want to take risks?
Xenophanes Colophon	Posted - 2009.07.14 06:29:00 - [82] Originally by: kano donn sry started to read and a question hit me. i didnt read page 2 and 3 but whatever so what is all this talk of risk? why would people want to take risks? Because the addition of risk adds excitement? I know I like the rush of a good fight. Only ever do any of the less honorable stuff out of frustration when I can't get a good fight. Even then it's only in the hopes of getting atleast some sort of fight. By good fight I mean a nice, 1v1 frigate fight and the occasional 1v1 frigate v cruiser fight.
kano donn	Posted - 2009.07.14 06:34:00 - [83] Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Because the addition of risk adds excitement? I know I like the rush of a good fight. Only ever do any of the less honorable stuff out of frustration when I can't get a good fight. Even then it's only in the hopes of getting atleast some sort of fight. By good fight I mean a nice, 1v1 frigate fight and the occasional 1v1 frigate v cruiser fight. so you fight just for the joy of fighting even when you know you are going to loose? what about the joy of utterly destroying your enemy and the joy of looting?
Xenophanes Colophon	Posted - 2009.07.14 06:44:00 - [84] Edited by: Xenophanes Colophon on 14/07/2009 06:45:04 Originally by: kano donn Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Because the addition of risk adds excitement? I know I like the rush of a good fight. Only ever do any of the less honorable stuff out of frustration when I can't get a good fight. Even then it's only in the hopes of getting atleast some sort of fight. By good fight I mean a nice, 1v1 frigate fight and the occasional 1v1 frigate v cruiser fight. so you fight just for the joy of fighting even when you know you are going to loose? what about the joy of utterly destroying your enemy and the joy of looting? Actually, I like to fight when I think it'll be close. I always like to have a bit of an edge, but it's far more gratifying to kill a more experienced player. When I see no chance of winnning I do look for an out.
kano donn	Posted - 2009.07.14 06:53:00 - [85] ah ok thanks :)
HeliosGal	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:14:00 - [86] i took a long break from empire mission invasion gameplay. (covers salvage-aggro,bait and getting concord to turn up when they self destruct trying to shoot u) new scanning system seems a bit longer but u find more specific targets Killing macro farmers inside wormholes is just getting lame they have 20 more hulks parked at poses ( blowing up those poses can be fun they drop hulks enmasse) though thats more for an organised group So for those in mission hubs good work it keeps the game from turning into hello kitty online
Bongo Debbie Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:30:00 - [87] Edited by: Bongo Debbie on 18/07/2009 11:31:19 Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Edited by: Xenophanes Colophon on 14/07/2009 06:45:04 Originally by: kano donn Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Because the addition of risk adds excitement? I know I like the rush of a good fight. Only ever do any of the less honorable stuff out of frustration when I can't get a good fight. Even then it's only in the hopes of getting atleast some sort of fight. By good fight I mean a nice, 1v1 frigate fight and the occasional 1v1 frigate v cruiser fight. so you fight just for the joy of fighting even when you know you are going to loose? what about the joy of utterly destroying your enemy and the joy of looting? Actually, I like to fight when I think it'll be close. I always like to have a bit of an edge, but it's far more gratifying to kill a more experienced player. When I see no chance of winnning I do look for an out. I have to agree that a balanced fight is usually the ideal goal, at least in terms of sustainable pvp, as opposed to haemorrhaging isk at every encounter. Otherwise I like to fight outclassed in preference. This certainly does not guarantee success but is far more rewarding than outclassing the opposition. I have flown in a few gangs from time to time but with the engagements dictated by someone else we tend to either gank, or be ganked... it's rarer to get an even fight when there's a group of you... from my limited small gang experience at least. I derive very little joy from utterly destroying people. Selling their loot on the other hand tends to bring a smile. Spank got forum muted QQ
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.18 16:07:00 - [88] Originally by: Karlemgne So I got really bored last night and started scanning out mission runners with a mission running alt. I would warp into the missions in my Navy Raven and start shooting their rats. I cannot actually claim this is fun, it isn't really... but I got 6 hate mails. Six. I haven't gotten this many hate mails in years. Its quite clear to me that people must be into this for the hate mail, which I get--sort of. That's my brief insight for the quarter. Cheers, -Karlemgne we can haz hate mails? those are always fun to read Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe

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