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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.22 02:27:00 -
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I just watched the Inferno trailer.
There was an awesome barrel roll.
I want barrel roll.
It doesn't have to DO anything, it can be purely cosmetic.
But I wanna make Peppy Hare proud by rolling my Rifter.
Who is with me? |

tankus2
The Peace Keepers Guardian Knights Citizens
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Posted - 2012.05.22 03:09:00 -
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can we just do it by pressing 'z' or 'r' twice? Where the science gets done |

Cari Cullejen
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Can't Undock. Won't Undock
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Posted - 2012.05.22 03:41:00 -
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god yes... i saw it too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqAGSN7ev0k |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.22 13:03:00 -
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And after we barrel roll, we can use the MWD to get through! |

Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:14:00 -
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Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development:
Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)...
Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:18:00 -
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Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights! 
CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game.
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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:15:00 -
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cApAc aMaRu wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game.
Well noone is telling you you can't do it in game. Get a bunch of friends and manually pilot into formation :) |

Plaude Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:34:00 -
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cApAc aMaRu wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game. And why exactly would they be against formations? Because it puts too much strain on the server?
I wouldn't mind seeing various maneuvers and formations added. Just imagine how awesome it would be to fly a group of Frigates through a barrage of missiles and gunfire, rolling around to avoid getting hit, and then after killing their target(s), doing an Immelmann Turn (for show) and then burn back to the larger ships in the fleet. It would look epic, but it would most likely kill the servers the moment anyone tried to do it. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:03:00 -
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Plaude Pollard wrote:cApAc aMaRu wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game. And why exactly would they be against formations? Because it puts too much strain on the server? I wouldn't mind seeing various maneuvers and formations added. Just imagine how awesome it would be to fly a group of Frigates through a barrage of missiles and gunfire, rolling around to avoid getting hit, and then after killing their target(s), doing an Immelmann Turn (for show) and then burn back to the larger ships in the fleet. It would look epic, but it would most likely kill the servers the moment anyone tried to do it.
CCP say that unless there is a gameplay reason that works, they don't want to add formations.
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:57:00 -
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Now that I think about it, this could fit well with CCP's current philosophy, taking the game back to its spaceship roots.
Barrel rolls and other tricks could be a kind of spaceship emote. |
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leviticus ander
CATO.nss
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:13:00 -
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cApAc aMaRu wrote:Now that I think about it, this could fit well with CCP's current philosophy, taking the game back to its spaceship roots.
Barrel rolls and other tricks could be a kind of spaceshipemote. let me reference the underlined part, and just say, NO! lets not encourage them to break physics more than they already are. you don't twirl about in a space ship. that's how you go about killing your crew. and in reference to the bolded part. (I'm taking a line from the oatmeal here) in the name of zeus' thunderclapping butthole, NO. I'm pretty sure any time I've seen references to emote in eve, they have been shot down with the verbal equivalent of the initiation of world war 3. do you know why? look at wow, having to watch a crowd of people doing the same little r******* dance is just plain painful. it's not cute, it's not a neat feature of the game, it's obnoxious and mostly used to get peoples attention. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:48:00 -
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leviticus ander wrote:cApAc aMaRu wrote:Now that I think about it, this could fit well with CCP's current philosophy, taking the game back to its spaceship roots.
Barrel rolls and other tricks could be a kind of spaceshipemote. let me reference the underlined part, and just say, NO! lets not encourage them to break physics more than they already are. you don't twirl about in a space ship. that's how you go about killing your crew. and in reference to the bolded part. (I'm taking a line from the oatmeal here) in the name of zeus' thunderclapping butthole, NO. I'm pretty sure any time I've seen references to emote in eve, they have been shot down with the verbal equivalent of the initiation of world war 3. do you know why? look at wow, having to watch a crowd of people doing the same little r******* dance is just plain painful. it's not cute, it's not a neat feature of the game, it's obnoxious and mostly used to get peoples attention.
I'm not talking about spaceships dancing, im talking about 'aerial' manuevers. And if doing a barrel roll would kill the crew, then some of the **** i do in my Rifter would turn them into a fine mist. They are talking about fixing up combat cameras and such, but whats the point if you can't taunt your dead victim with a barrel roll or blinking your lights?
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:53:00 -
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I want to waggle my wings damn it! |

Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:26:00 -
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I support this idea. |

SGT FUNYOUN
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:37:00 -
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First off your "crew" is robotic drone tech.
Secondly, barrel roles will not break the game mechanics.
Lastly, it just looks cool.
But the only problem is that, you don't actually "Fly" ships in EVE, you are linked to your ship's super "near-human" artificial intelligence and you command it, and IT (the onboard ship AI) actually does the flying of the ship. That is why you bounce off of asteroids instead of smashing into them when you stop paying attention and why our ships maneuver so slow and sluggishly looking. If we actually flew them, we would need a twin joystick peripheral to play EVE (because Space ships fly in the "fourth dimension" unlike aircraft which only fly in two and three dimensions) and they would fly a lot more eratically and more human like. AI flying is why our ships move like they do.
You command your ship, you don't fly, the computer flies it for you. Technology is DESIGNED to make laziness easier. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:58:00 -
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bump
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Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:09:00 -
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SGT FUNYOUN wrote:(because Space ships fly in the "fourth dimension" unlike aircraft which only fly in two and three dimensions)
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.24 22:13:00 -
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cApAc aMaRu wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game. They did put a capsuleer shooting another while walking in stations in a trailer.
Also fourth dimension lol Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. (Link was wrong, now fixed) |

Doggy Dogwoofwoof
Skellhell Operations
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:18:00 -
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i have the same question.  |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:37:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:cApAc aMaRu wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game. They did put a capsuleer shooting another while walking in stations in a trailer. Also fourth dimension lol. If you really want to control your ships completely (as in actually fly them instead of click where to fly) you'd have to use a 3+1 axis controller (joystick with twist and speed select). On one hand it would be fun to some of us if EVE worked like that, but ultimately that requires twitch mechanics the game and servers aren't built to handle.
I don't want complete control. I want to be able to bind a key, or use a context menu, to select 'perform barrel roll' and other such maneuvers to taunt my foes.
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.26 10:35:00 -
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Do a barrel bump! |

Xhaiden Ora
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.26 11:08:00 -
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"Spaceship Emotes".
I want to be able to turn on my highbeams on my Harbinger while tailgating out of a station and annoy other pilots. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:19:00 -
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Xhaiden Ora wrote:"Spaceship Emotes".
I want to be able to turn on my highbeams on my Harbinger while tailgating out of a station and annoy other pilots.
Sounds good! |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.27 05:15:00 -
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You'll never defeat AAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDDRRRRRROOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.28 00:42:00 -
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Daily bumpel roll. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.29 06:40:00 -
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Launch Zig for great bump. |

Soto ShinDo
HeroinPixelSpace
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:57:00 -
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cApAc aMaRu wrote: They are talking about fixing up combat cameras and such, but whats the point if you can't taunt your dead victim with a barrel roll or blinking your lights?
Taunt them in local - job done 
And stop bumping - nearly nobody likes your 'cool' idea. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:21:00 -
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Soto ShinDo wrote:cApAc aMaRu wrote: They are talking about fixing up combat cameras and such, but whats the point if you can't taunt your dead victim with a barrel roll or blinking your lights?
Taunt them in local - job done  And stop bumping - nearly nobody likes your 'cool' idea.
Baww. Bump.
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:58:00 -
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Anyone got other ideas for ship emotes? I think programmable blinking lights would be cool. |

Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.31 12:08:00 -
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SGT FUNYOUN wrote: AI flying is why our ships move like they do.
You command your ship, you don't fly, the computer flies it for you. Technology is DESIGNED to make laziness easier.
This is true, but garbage, and one of the major reasons EVE sucks. So why are you defending EVE's ****** phsysics and flight mechanics?
The whole thing needs redesigned, so barrel rolls, I say yes. At least give us some fun while the (already completely unrealistic) spaceflight mechanics are still from 1999.
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.05 08:58:00 -
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Rollin rollin rollin |

Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.05 09:08:00 -
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cApAc aMaRu wrote: Baww. Bump.
You might be aware of the fact that bumping is against the forum rules. |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.05 09:26:00 -
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Colonel Xaven wrote:cApAc aMaRu wrote: Baww. Bump.
You might be aware of the fact that bumping is against the forum rules.
It says that bumping things to keep them near the top is prohibited. Doesn't say anything about the occasional nudge to get some more attention. If you think my bumping is abusive go ahead and report me.
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.25 09:03:00 -
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I want this even more now since the shiny new texture updates for Minnie and Angel ships. |

Uris Vitgar
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.25 09:24:00 -
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1. Rotate your camera so you are looking straight down 2. Double-click in space at the top of your screen 3. Double-click in space at the bottom of your screen
You have now performed a barrel roll |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.25 09:35:00 -
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Uris Vitgar wrote:1. Rotate your camera so you are looking straight down 2. Double-click in space at the top of your screen 3. Double-click in space at the bottom of your screen
You have now performed a barrel roll
Remind me, which way is down in space again? :P
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FireT
Royal Advanced Industries Imperial Hull Tankers
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:42:00 -
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This would have to be limited to frigates and cruisers. Anything above that size, in my mind, would look like a beached whale turning. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2012.07.25 14:03:00 -
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I just want to fly my ship at odd angles to mess with people's heads. An upside down raven would probably really bother some people.
*Disclaimer, I don't actually fly ravens. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:15:00 -
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FireT wrote:This would have to be limited to frigates and cruisers. Anything above that size, in my mind, would look like a beached whale turning.
Up to the player. Barrel Roll is affected by align time.
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Spr09
East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:12:00 -
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We NEED barrel rolls. |
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:31:00 -
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Spr09 wrote:We NEED barrel rolls.
I agree 100%
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Mr M
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2012.07.26 05:08:00 -
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Not sure how it is these days but back in 2006 the barrel roll emote was patented by EA.
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cApAc aMaRu
Burning Sword
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Posted - 2012.07.26 05:23:00 -
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Mr M wrote:Not sure how it is these days but back in 2006 the barrel roll emote was patented by EA.
Ugh how depressing...it was a long time ago though. And I might consider settling for not being able to control spontaneous flight animations... sigh... |

Relient Tolemus
Fist of Eargon The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 08:14:00 -
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Plaude Pollard wrote:cApAc aMaRu wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Introduce barrel roll and I clearly see the future development: Tournaments are not only PvP anymore, it will be formation flight contests (additionally?)... Oh yeah. And let us buy color smoke for afterburners (as charges) to support formation flights!  CCP have been pretty strongly anti-formation. But its pretty cruel of them to put things in trailers because they are cool, and then not let us do it in game. And why exactly would they be against formations? Because it puts too much strain on the server? I wouldn't mind seeing various maneuvers and formations added. Just imagine how awesome it would be to fly a group of Frigates through a barrage of missiles and gunfire, rolling around to avoid getting hit, and then after killing their target(s), doing an Immelmann Turn (for show) and then burn back to the larger ships in the fleet. It would look epic, but it would most likely kill the servers the moment anyone tried to do it.
Without Line of fire mechanics (not begin able to shoot through ships and hit other ships) there is not really a need for full manual flight or formations.
Introducing these things would completely change PVP in eve. Whether or not that would be good or bad, I have no opinion because it will never happen. It's also important to remember that this is a signature. |

Dragonv2
unfair pleasure Elemental Tide
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Posted - 2012.07.26 09:50:00 -
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i fully agree we need more thing to be able to do with our ships!
also this |
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