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Philalethes
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Posted - 2009.07.17 03:51:00 -
[61]
550m Dbank. It could have been worse. I've been lucky more than prudent.
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Namco
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.17 03:58:00 -
[62]
My losses thus far..
100M to Boundlyss ( http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=828260 )
100M to FedFleet ( http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=825619 )
Not too bad, overall, I guess. I'd liked to have made some smarter investments, but always seem to have too little ISK or am not around at the right times to do so.
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Catherine LeBatas
Caldari
WOLIMAZO INC
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Posted - 2009.07.17 12:31:00 -
[63]
Lost about 300Mil each to Chocktaw Gaming (Eve Casino otherwise), ISPL Bond and the big Citatel Industries scam.
No longer interested in the secondary market.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.17 12:35:00 -
[64]
 Originally by: Catherine LeBatas
Lost about 300Mil each to Chocktaw Gaming (Eve Casino otherwise), ISPL Bond and the big Citatel Industries scam.
No longer interested in the secondary market.
Jumping the gun are we?
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Catherine LeBatas
Caldari
WOLIMAZO INC
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Posted - 2009.07.17 12:41:00 -
[65]
I diversified, audited and researched. Yet it still ended up in a loss. Why should I bother feeding peoples ego's such as Galligher, who do this like trophy hunting. There isn't enough safeguards to make this viable and the recent bank failures seem to confirm this even more.
And for those that think it's just internet money, it has a real world value due to GTCs. Loosing a Billion means you loose about 60$ (roughly), which is money you could have saved if you bought game time with the ISK. Therefore, these scams are more than just a little prank. A scam of 40Bil, as has happened before equates to a real money scam of $1710. If you pulled that off in real life, the cops would be knocking on the door soon enough.
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Kasheem Cetanes
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:03:00 -
[66]
Lost about 1.5bill to M.Corp
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2009.07.17 19:59:00 -
[67]
Approximately -1M ISK by scamming scammers.
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Pastiche
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Posted - 2009.07.18 02:53:00 -
[68]
If DBank doesn't come back 1.3b. If it does come back. None.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.18 04:14:00 -
[69]
Quote:
There isn't enough safeguards to make this viable and the recent bank failures seem to confirm this even more.
This is a typical post taken out of several other similar ones.
Let me ask a question then.
I also audited, checked etc. etc.
I ended up lucky, I did not lose anything *in banks*.
But I betted - and lost - on other game ventures. The whole game is a testament to "don't <invest | fly | whatever> what you can't afford to lose".
Why would you expect a zero percent loss when every time you undock you can lose a ship and a pod?
Or every time you buy something to resell at a profit, it could backfire?
It's quite... understandable that by investing you'll gain some and lose some over the long period, and you aim at having gained more than lost (like some above reported).
Bad things, of course, rightfully happen to those:
- who undock in a ship with everything they had and that could not buy again
- who invest all of their money in one item to market (and then someone comes and "kills" them).
- who invest most of their money in bonds and banks and then the guy flees with the purse.
In trading and finance there's no high sec.
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Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and
http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Jim diGriz
Caldari
Lollipops for Rancors
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Posted - 2009.07.18 07:59:00 -
[70]
500m to a scam. Now I'm skint.
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Ab Tallen
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.18 12:15:00 -
[71]
2.1bil to Fury Bank and Fury Holdings
Unknown amount in selling all my stuff stuck in PNQY for a very small sum to mazzilliu in a fit of "I don't care anyway and don't want to keep a clone here" (not technically a scam, just feeling rather dumb about it).
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eVaLF
Delivery Luck
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Posted - 2009.07.18 12:40:00 -
[72]
50bil give or take -
Ionia (31bil, maybe 21bil I forget lol)
Eve Casino - (100mil - 1bil again not 100% sure)
And many other smaller 100-1bil ones that I cant think of right now.
Over all I have made isk though in the 2nd'ary market, mostly with the re-selling of shares not holding them for profits.
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Chaos Dreams
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Posted - 2009.07.18 13:06:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Why would you expect a zero percent loss when every time you undock you can lose a ship and a pod?
Or every time you buy something to resell at a profit, it could backfire?
It's quite... understandable that by investing you'll gain some and lose some over the long period, and you aim at having gained more than lost (like some above reported).
I started losing a lot of my interest in investing even before Dbank impoded. For me, it's not really about the losses being demoralizing. It's more about the "wins" being demoralzing.
Even ignoring the losses, the gains from the successful investments just isn't that worthwhile. 5-6%, give or take, just isn't that much of a victory. Maybe it's different when you're throwing billions into each investment you make. But I don't have that much capital that I can "afford to lose" yet, so my investments limited to tens or hundreds of millions instead.
Once you figure in research, checking post history, reading audits, ect. it becomes too much effort for too little gain.
That's just my perspective, though. I guess if playing internet detective is what gets you off, or if you're already a forum ***** and know the investee's history, reputation, and everything already then all the bonds and IPO's are loads of fun.
But it seems like half the offerings are about scams and/or drama. That's obviously a really fun game for a lot of people, but I'm already starting to lose interest in it.
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Mr Funkadelic
x13
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.07.18 17:55:00 -
[74]
about 6b in DB, Idle isk and i still dont miss them ;/ Just dont invest anything you cant afford to lose.
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Peeveepee
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:33:00 -
[75]
Around 15B between Furybank and Iona(sp)?
I vow to never invest in people again.
It is a lot easier to make ISK storing wealth in the form of implants (when they are low price).
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.07.18 21:35:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
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Most definitely not a game breaking amount, but enough to serve as a stinging reminder that there are only two types of individuals who frequent these boards: Scammers and who havenŠt scammed yet.
There's a 3rd type: those who don't care or don't want to scam.
If I was in dire need of money (don't know why), I'd just toss some GTCs.
I respect myself enough not to dirty my name with that dishonor.
Just two types: those that have a life and those that don't.
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Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2009.07.19 03:45:00 -
[77]
Hmm where to start:
Loses (over 5+ years):
~25b - Stolen
~50b - Ganked
~75b - Investments
Gains (over 5+ years):
~100b - Mining
~100b - Reselling
~325b - Investments
~500b - Manufacturing
All rough estimates but you get the picture!
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
Exxxotic
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Posted - 2009.07.19 11:52:00 -
[78]
im always very carefull, but once in a rush i bought a typhoon with 3 rigs, did not check properly and they were rig bpc and not actual rigs, so only lost about 50 mil.. i can live with that lol
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Veldra Ferden
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Posted - 2009.07.19 12:05:00 -
[79]
800 million to an offering that went bad half way.
Got a doll for being nice about it though.
If anyone wants a set of dolls for 800,000,001 isk, please contact me ingame and we'll discuss the details of delivery.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Planet Roqa
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Posted - 2009.07.20 02:13:00 -
[80]
never been scammed but i have owned myself with messed up sales taxes ^_^
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