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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:22:00 -
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Hey kids,
In the light on the recent Bank failures and juicy scams, I've got to wondering about how often people suffer a total loss to their investment in MD and how much. Personally, I've never lost so much as a single isk to a scam or failure. Compared to the tens of billions that I've lost in PvP over the same time period the whole investment game appears pretty safe from my perspective.
Interested to hear the experiences and opinions of others...
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Imertu Solientai
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:24:00 -
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I've lost about -50,000,000.00 ISK to scamming
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:25:00 -
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Around a billion so far in 3 years, but over those years I've made at least 2b so I consider it an acceptable risk IMHO. |

Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Imertu Solientai I've lost about -50,000,000.00 ISK to scamming
Tell me more!
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:27:00 -
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100mil to benvie bond, not sure if it was a scam or hit by bus but he dissapeared.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Man 100mil to benvie bond, not sure if it was a scam or hit by bus but he dissapeared.
If they scammed, dissappeared or found themselves unable to return your principle investment for any reason then that counts in my book.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:31:00 -
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A crushing total of 70m, Stabber fleet issue. 
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei A crushing total of 70m, Stabber fleet issue. 
Did you get an ordinary stabber instead? If so, what did you do with your expensive stabber?
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:40:00 -
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The only scam I've lost money to is 100 mil to grind a character's standings (the up front half), immediately upon receipt the guy said "nevermind, I don't feel like it". That's the breaks though!
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:42:00 -
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*opens his ledger*
Eve Casino - 100m Citadel Heavy Industries - 20m Endureth Bond - 200m Dynasty Bank - 112m Moon Mining Industry - 500m
Mostly chump change
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:49:00 -
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So far, I only received. A free corp, free capital BPCs, free POS, free 3 months fuels, 3 x free advanced labs (that is, in a friend's 0 ISK contract, not in the above POS), 1 x free full T2 fitted (but not rigged) Hurricane, free WH harvesting ships, free BS BPCs, 2 free fitted Ruptures, 1 free Cheetah. Sometimes I think I am playing another game. - Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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W3370Pi4
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:53:00 -
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nothing
the only thing i lost is 1B to suicide gankers _______ Join the "Legit Trading" Channel |

Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: W3370Pi4 nothing
the only thing i lost is 1B to suicide gankers
That's a PvP loss, that doesn't count.
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Dzil
Caldari StrwBerry Pancakes
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:50:00 -
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1 million dollars ISK! /creepy pinky pose
---------------------- Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m for 7+ standings ---------------------- |

Discova
Interstellar Corp Exhumers
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:43:00 -
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zero CEO Interstellar Corp Exhumers |

Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:30:00 -
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I have lost 2b in total, 1b to Ionia and 1b to another chap whose name I can't quite recall.
I have made that and so much more back from the primary and secondary market in EVE though, I consider the investment strategy I have followed to be overwelmingly successful.
| Petition Ray McCormack! |

SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:32:00 -
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To be honest I have never been scammed from an IPO/Bond etc, unless you are hinting you will be, then it'll be 1B. 
However in game scam, only twice, once for 100mil, once for 25mil. However both instances I was in Jita and clicked "Accept" on a contract I knew was a scam. It was like I was drawn to the button anyway, a real brain fart moment.
I've actually given away about 500m - 1b ISK to friends and people that I know and have never seen a ISK back from them.
All in all if I didn't give away ISK, didn't give away assets in Jita for fun and games, I think I'd be maybe 2b ahead of what I am today.
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ingenting
20th Legion Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:51:00 -
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25m to "recruitment service" _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu *BAAOOM*... Told you, newb."
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:55:00 -
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I lost a hair under 2B buying up FRPB junk bonds in the hope that he would return. That's the sum total of my losses and I've made around 10B in profit from my investments in the secondary market so I'm hardly upset about it.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:59:00 -
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I lost 200 million back in December in a bond offering from someone I can't remember the name of.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:10:00 -
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300 million from the LRN palooza 3 billion from the Dbank failwarz
Most definitely not a game breaking amount, but enough to serve as a stinging reminder that there are only two types of individuals who frequent these boards: Scammers and who havenŠt scammed yet. Until CCP implements a set of tools with which our rules may be supported by consequences, investing in the MD is essentially playing 100$ slots with the prize pool of the 1$ machine.
-L
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Resiin
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:11:00 -
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Only 6m to Dbank, if that counts.
Originally by: Tarminic OH FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST
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Hel O'Ween
Academy of Truth
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:47:00 -
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250 million to the DBANK incident. Fortunately that's all in my EVE career up until now. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:51:00 -
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Quote:
Most definitely not a game breaking amount, but enough to serve as a stinging reminder that there are only two types of individuals who frequent these boards: Scammers and who havenŠt scammed yet.
There's a 3rd type: those who don't care or don't want to scam. If I was in dire need of money (don't know why), I'd just toss some GTCs. I respect myself enough not to dirty my name with that dishonor. - Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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testirania
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:07:00 -
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Hey Dad.
Lets see, Ive only been hit by scams once ( twice if FIMD turns out to go belly up ) for a total of up to 18 bill ( again depending on FIMD )
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Chaos Dreams
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:34:00 -
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Had 300 and something million in DBank when Mana up and vanished.
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RJ Nobel
Nobel Research and Development
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: RJ Nobel on 15/07/2009 17:44:07 Total MD scam/failure losses: 0 (zero) Time invested in MD: about five months ISK invested in MD: about 20% of my NAV
Investing in MD has been quite safe for me (knock on wood)
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flakeys
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.15 18:16:00 -
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Ipo scam through MD is 1 billion.I hereby would like to thank this person for being my drive to pick up trades on a larger scale thus making me have a fat wallet.
Other scams: Well IF you count Dbank as a scam i lost 3 bille there.But i don't see it as a scam but a faillure of someone to afraid step up and say: 'I fckd up big time , sorry guys'.
So overall loss through investments is 4 billion.Wich makes my % of interest accumulated throughout investments and the loss i had there be in a big negative number .Think i earned like 2 bille from investments so am 1 bille in red BUT i'd still see it as a fun way to play with isk.
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Trading Bunnz
Equatorial Industires Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.07.15 18:25:00 -
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23b give or take to FRPB (Selling FRPB at 50% face value! Quick, buy yours now!) 4b or thereabouts to various other failures and scams
At which I became a provider of investments, rather than an investment source. Safer to work my isk myself and achieve economies of scale than to continue to assume others will follow my ethical code. FRPB Shares in Default |

Fleshbot
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Posted - 2009.07.15 18:46:00 -
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400 million from the 720 scam.
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