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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:13:00 -
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Ok I understand you are needing to do something to make it look like you are trying to improve things.. but this is not an improvement.
For people who have to move a lot of items around.. its a nightmare. It's slower... it makes moving things from you cargo to item hanger a mess.. double clicking on the background no longer brings up the cargo bay (something we fought for with the "door/ship spinning" thing) What you think it was really only about "ship spinning"?
I need to be able to maintain separate windows for draging and dropping... without them closing back into the microsoft monster system window.
'so.. new inventory system .. I don't like it. at all. The old way was not that big a problem. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
709
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:14:00 -
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Sorry, this new inventory is a feature and cannot be turned off.
It's not rocket surgery. |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:15:00 -
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UNSUB NO really, that is what CCP will listen to, they said that.... so do it. I have already.
CCP will see the huge drop in subs... and **** 10 bricks and use them to help fix eve. |
B3AST MODE B3AST
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:21:00 -
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just contract your stuff to me and when you re-sub I'll contract it back |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:21:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Sorry, this new inventory is a feature and cannot be turned off.
so was walking in stations.... and I agree it's a "feature".... a bad feature. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
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shift click to make new windows, close new item window, you now have the old item UI set up Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
119
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:22:00 -
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B3AST MODE B3AST wrote:just contract your stuff to me and when you re-sub I'll contract it back
no problem.. I require a 80 billion isk deposit from you first. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
120
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:26:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:shift click to make new windows, close new item window, you now have the old item UI set up
come on people it's not hard
no you actually don't - it takes longer to set up and it's not permanant; the window reconsolidates when you leave station.. and there is no single button to reopen them.. this is time consuming. it might have been ok if the cargo bay was not part of this monster.. but it resets into the system and therte is no easy way to reopen it. The old way was better.
The cumbersome nature of walking in station is what most people objected to when that came out.. this is just more of the same. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Karsten
LoneWolf Mining Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:31:00 -
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To be honest the new inventory system is a huge step backward! Its slow, clumpsy and bot ergonomical. It might look better but one can't work with it.
The old one was much more effective!
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FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
122
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:31:00 -
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Shift click to open new window. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I do believe in karma. That means that whenever I do something sh**y to others, they somehow deserved it." |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7049
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:33:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Shift click to open new window. GǪsolves nothing. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
120
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:33:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Shift click to open new window.
this is not the answer to making it not cumbersome. this is added steps and still is a bad move for people moving a lot of inventory frequently. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:38:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:MotherMoon wrote:shift click to make new windows, close new item window, you now have the old item UI set up
come on people it's not hard no you actually don't - it takes longer to set up and it's not permanant; the window reconsolidates when you leave station.. and there is no single button to reopen them.. this is time consuming. it might have been ok if the cargo bay was not part of this monster.. but it resets into the system and therte is no easy way to reopen it. The old way was better. The cumbersome nature of walking in station is what most people objected to when that came out.. this is just more of the same.
This!
CCP: If you insist on maintaining the 'improved' inventory management system, please add an opt-out button for this nonsense. You can put it right next to the opt-out button for Captain's Quarters. I promise I'll opt out the moment I'm given the option.
Yes, it is that bad! It is right up there with Captain's Quarters. Opting out should have the same high visibility and ease of access . The fail factor is of the same order of magnitude. |
Phaedra Stargazer
Rising Sun Inc.
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:40:00 -
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I agree that it's more of a hassle now than it was before. When I dock again I don't want to click 10 times to find what I'm looking for. With shift click you can rearrange all the windows just as they were but like Babs said: It's not permanent!
Also there's too much text bars around the window, the bars are too wide and that's just annoying when you just want to see what's inside of it.
I like the feature with the estimated price though. No matter if it's entirely correct or not I finally have an indication of what my inventory is worth :P (on the other hand it's 2 lines too many on the bottom of the window :S)
Let's hope they do some iteration on this soon, it could use some improvement.
Phaedra |
Ataxio
Creative Destruction Hashashin Cartel
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:51:00 -
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It looks very nice and all, but it really has to go. Ship maint arrays seem to be reloading their contents each time the window is reopened now, I can't tell you how annoying that is....
I've also lost all my custom ship hanger window positions, which was a big deal to me. In addition, it seems impossible to have more then one window open. Though I'm sure there is some extremely easy method to pop open more windows, CCP did not hold my hand and explain this to me (Which they need to, I just so happen to be a flaming idiot)
The pretty explosions and quelling my rage at the moment, but that wont last for long..... Diablo 3 has some mighty fine explosions... mmmmhmmmmm, yesir, sure does. |
AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
23
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:04:00 -
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This 'new' inventory/cans dialog boxes are NO improvment at all, more of a gay azz win7 style wanna-be. Now when u loot a wreck, that box is the same as this 'new' inventory box. so moving things back and forth will not be an option or be very difficult. And when u loot the wreck, that box will dissappear, but whats left is ur cargohold, and a few extra clks to close THAT. The more of these so-called 'upgrades' that keep coming,... the more likely I will not want to play eVe any longer. I have yet to see anything that shoiuld be called an 'upgrade', and whoever the idiot is that is coming up with these lousy ideas, needs to be podded. U wanna upgrade something, then upgrade the fact the when I bump into a rock, in the VOID of space, that rock should move, not my ship becoming intangled on it by some invisible ccp web of sh!t..... I have not seen ALL of the DOWNGRADES u have made in this 'upgrade', but I'm sure they will show up at the exact time I don't need them to. And no more fagg0t azz win7 styles, its a bad idea.... |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
701
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:12:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:MotherMoon wrote:shift click to make new windows, close new item window, you now have the old item UI set up
come on people it's not hard no you actually don't - it takes longer to set up and it's not permanant; the window reconsolidates when you leave station.. and there is no single button to reopen them.. this is time consuming. it might have been ok if the cargo bay was not part of this monster.. but it resets into the system and therte is no easy way to reopen it. The old way was better. The cumbersome nature of walking in station is what most people objected to when that came out.. this is just more of the same. no, this is just a buggy UI, that should be holding it's position when you dock and such. But it doesn't because it is broken, it is still however a much better item window, if that one issue was fixed. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:17:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:MotherMoon wrote:shift click to make new windows, close new item window, you now have the old item UI set up
come on people it's not hard no you actually don't - it takes longer to set up and it's not permanant; the window reconsolidates when you leave station.. and there is no single button to reopen them.. this is time consuming. it might have been ok if the cargo bay was not part of this monster.. but it resets into the system and therte is no easy way to reopen it. The old way was better. The cumbersome nature of walking in station is what most people objected to when that came out.. this is just more of the same. no, this is just a buggy UI, that should be holding it's position when you dock and such. But it doesn't because it is broken, it is still however a much better item window, if that one issue was fixed.
yes, besides being slow.. it adds a lot of nice features to inventory I don't need like searches... I have "assets" for those features this change was unnecessary. as a side note I turn off this consolidated windows feature in MS Windows as well as makes my work slower. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Terron Kerrix
Osiris Mineral Exploration Inc. Unitary Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:21:00 -
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Change inventory interaction back to prior patch please. |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:23:00 -
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New inventory is fine. Instead of 800 windows, its one window with tabs. OH GOD, THE HORROR. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7067
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:24:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:no, this is just a buggy UI, that should be holding it's position when you dock and such. But it doesn't because it is broken, it is still however a much better item window, if that one issue was fixed. The problem is that it's not just bugs GÇö it's an inherent inability to handle (or perhaps GÇ¥make use ofGÇ¥ is a better description) multiple windows. Shift-clicking is just a band-aid to get to those multiple windows GÇö it doesn't actually make them work properly.
You cannot a priori decide which window an inventory will open in. You cannot make those additional windows appear and disappear automatically depending on context. You cannot limit what does and does not appear in any given window.
You can adjust any window to show anything you like, but you have to do it manually and you can't have any pre-determined presets, and the only way to control this is through the tree view that takes up window real-estate. It's still very clear that the UI assumes that there is just one single inventory, and the rest of them are non-existent from the point of view of any external inventory activation. Admittedly, this is better than the earlier version where every window assumed it was the single inventory window and thus responded to such external triggers and would reset themselves at the drop of a hat.
Xander Riggs wrote:New inventory is fine. Instead of 800 windows, its one window with tabs. OH GOD, THE HORROR. It was never 800 windows to begin with. If you wanted to use a single inventory window in the old system, you could.
That's kind of the red flag going up here: you could emulate the new system in the old one, but you can't really emulate the old system in the new one. This means the new system has lost a fair amount of functionality, even when (especially when) you consider the functionality that has actually been added. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:26:00 -
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If it remembered the placement of windows shift-clicked out if it, it would be tolerable. Barely. Having to re-shift click out items, ships, corp hangar, corp delivery, and cargo bay every time I want to dock and shift items between all those locations is just a huge hassle. |
Sven Ragnaroeg
Full Contact
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:28:00 -
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Please roll back to the old inventory, the new one isn-¦t good. I can-¦t find the Corphangar |
AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
24
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:32:00 -
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***UPDATE*** Lag has been added.... use of missles add lag now and what appears to be smoke? coming out of missles? in the vacuum of space? O_o Who the FUK is coming up with these ideas?!!!! |
AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
24
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:42:00 -
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AkaiDruiD II wrote:***UPDATE*** Lag has been added.... use of missles add lag now and what appears to be smoke? coming out of missles? in the vacuum of space? O_o Who the FUK is coming up with these ideas?!!!!
Smoke from missles in the vacuum of outer space?!? Rocks that don't move when u bump into them?!? O_o What's next? Flyin Purple People Eaters? |
Zarnak Wulf
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
351
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Posted - 2012.05.22 20:43:00 -
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Pffft. It literally took about 10 minutes of head scratching on SISSI before I got it. It's a much better system. You can shift drag ammo right from your inventory to your active ship. You can do the reverse too. The only annoying aspect is when you unintentionally hover to long over the target inventory. |
AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
24
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:27:00 -
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By far....The worst "update" thus far....way to go ccp |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
143
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:39:00 -
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Wow. The flames are pouring upward again. Where are the jokes about the Diablo rollout now?
CCP, this is the customer base you have earned, hehe. Whining about the inventory system of all things. Go gank a miner, it will make you all feel better, I'm sure.
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
143
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:40:00 -
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AkaiDruiD II wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:***UPDATE*** Lag has been added.... use of missles add lag now and what appears to be smoke? coming out of missles? in the vacuum of space? O_o Who the FUK is coming up with these ideas?!!!! Smoke from missles in the vacuum of outer space?!? Rocks that don't move when u bump into them?!? O_o What's next? Flyin Purple People Eaters?
This engine has never looked like space in the least, so if you are really worried about the rocks, you are deluded. |
Terron Kerrix
Osiris Mineral Exploration Inc. Unitary Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:52:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:New inventory is fine. Instead of 800 windows, its one window with tabs. OH GOD, THE HORROR.
Have you tried working the corp window yet in a orca for mining ops yet...... I didn't think so.
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