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Kleiner Vance
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:03:00 -
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Love how you did not respond to my earlier post completely calling you out on your BS. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:04:00 -
[272] - Quote
Kleiner Vance wrote:Love how you did not respond to my earlier post completely calling you out on your BS.
I absolutely did
wait didn't I? |

Kleiner Vance
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:06:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote:Kleiner Vance wrote:Love how you did not respond to my earlier post completely calling you out on your BS. I absolutely did wait didn't I?
Nope.
I pointed out people don't have to have an argument to disagree with you.
I also presented an argument myself, just to show that people DO disagree with you. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:09:00 -
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Kleiner Vance wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:Kleiner Vance wrote:Love how you did not respond to my earlier post completely calling you out on your BS. I absolutely did wait didn't I? Nope. I pointed out people don't have to have an argument to disagree with you. I also presented an argument myself, just to show that people DO disagree with you.
You know, you where right, I had missed one and then I started to reread the thread so I could, but it seems to me most of what I have comment on is people that don't seem to think I have the right to unsub over this. So I guess your wrong? but w/e
You all seem to agree with me that this window, while good, is missing crap, just not that I should be aloud to unsub over it, or give people a place to say they are as well. |

Kleiner Vance
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:12:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote:Kleiner Vance wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:Kleiner Vance wrote:Love how you did not respond to my earlier post completely calling you out on your BS. I absolutely did wait didn't I? Nope. I pointed out people don't have to have an argument to disagree with you. I also presented an argument myself, just to show that people DO disagree with you. You know, you where right, and then I started to read the thread so I could, but it seems to me most of what I have comment on is people that don't seem to think I have the right to unsub over this. So I guess your wrong? but w/e You all seem to agree with me that this window, while good, is missing crap
You have the right to unsub over whatever the hell you want, its just when you tell me to unsub, or start making false generalizations or other fallacies, (like EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME) is where I have a problem. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:14:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Commander A9 wrote:
We've rolled back before (remember the return of the ship hangar, albeit no ship wobble?). We can do it again.
CCP can't keep old stuff evertime they make a new iteration on the game. Also, people use the old ship hanger view? Really? I bet if the game and a full ascii/text client some people would use that... and would complain about text fonts.... yes, everyone does, are you for real? Everyone does? lol
this is far more interesting to me now, show of hands, does ANYONE else use CQ over the ship hanger? |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:15:00 -
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Kleiner Vance wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:Kleiner Vance wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:Kleiner Vance wrote:Love how you did not respond to my earlier post completely calling you out on your BS. I absolutely did wait didn't I? Nope. I pointed out people don't have to have an argument to disagree with you. I also presented an argument myself, just to show that people DO disagree with you. You know, you where right, and then I started to read the thread so I could, but it seems to me most of what I have comment on is people that don't seem to think I have the right to unsub over this. So I guess your wrong? but w/e You all seem to agree with me that this window, while good, is missing crap You have the right to unsub over whatever the hell you want, its just when you tell me to unsub, or start making false generalizations or other fallacies, (like EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME) is where I have a problem.
I never told or even asked for anyone to unsub, or whatever else you are accusing me of, what are you on about? |

Kleiner Vance
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:21:00 -
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--Quote pyramid removed--
Malice Redeemer wrote:
I never told or even asked for anyone to unsub, or whatever else you are accusing me of, what are you on about?
You may not have done it directly, but you did belittle quite a few people who said they weren't unsubbing. You may have realized this now, but it's kindof an indirect way of telling people they should be unsubbing.
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Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:33:00 -
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Kleiner Vance wrote:--Quote pyramid removed-- Malice Redeemer wrote:
I never told or even asked for anyone to unsub, or whatever else you are accusing me of, what are you on about?
You may not have done it directly, but you did belittle quite a few people who said they weren't unsubbing. You also made fallicious arguments to your point Specifically the Ad Hominem fallacy, attacking anyone who disagreed with you as a "troll"
when? I really doubt it.
I have just read all again, really? when? what are you talking about? I was attacked by trolls who are upset that I am quitting, you may be one of the only people that has brought up the inventory's features proper, but even you have left that behind as you now try to make me in to some kind of demon. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:39:00 -
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Jackie Fisher wrote:Just to remind the OP that it is alliance policy that all quiters stuff is sent to me. 
har har, I had missed your post. My stuff is mines I tell ya.
They will get this working I have faith, I just like to remind them where the money comes from when they **** in my cornflakes |
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MIkhail Illiad
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
36
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:40:00 -
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If you are unsubbing over the new inventory then thats kinda lame, there are a few issues that need to be ironed out but on the whole its a massive improvement over what we had. You had fair warning that it was coming and it has been up on SiSi for a good while so you could get used to it. Unsubbing is the wrong way to go about things, how does your opinion count if you don't play the game you are QQ'ing about?
There once was an interesting signature here... It has long since disapeared.-á |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:41:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote:If you are unsubbing over the new inventory then thats kinda lame, there are a few issues that need to be ironed out but on the whole its a massive improvement over what we had. You had fair warning that it was coming and it has been up on SiSi for a good while so you could get used to it. Unsubbing is the wrong way to go about things, how does your opinion count if you don't play the game you are QQ'ing about?
watch what they do, not what they say, my friend |

Borg Stoneson
SWARTA Mostly Clueless
33
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:46:00 -
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knulla wrote:Borg Stoneson wrote:Not going to unsub over this, at least not yet as I have some small foolish hope that it will be fixed.
But this system completly screws my game (WH living and POS management) so if it isn't resolved over the next month or two I probably will just say "**** it" and let my 5 active accounts run out. 5? I heard it was 10 accounts.
7 actually, but with PLEX prices what they are I let a couple of them run out ages ago. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
427
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:50:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:CCP can't keep old stuff evertime they make a new iteration on the game.
Also, people use the old ship hanger view? Really? Yeah, I don't use CQ. Never will (unless something really intriguing comes out of it - don't see it happning).
Also - removing functionality (that was there before) and making it *harder* to do things is not good UI coding...
One of my corpies had this to say:
Quote:Okay, I checked a couple of things when I was updating my skill queue yesterday. You can still access SMAs from right click menu, so my nightmare of having to click through a bunch of unnamed SMAs to find my ships has not come to pass. Apparently CHAs cannot be accessed from space/right click any more because you have to open individual tabs from the inventory. You can still see tabs you don't have access to in the inventory tree, which they initially weren't going to do, but seem to have bowed to player insistence that that is a dumbass idea.
Opening your cargo hold on grid with our main POS lags out like **** because it has to load everything on grid, and you still can't separate out windows and have them stay separated (you can separate windows with shift-click, which has not been well publicized).
Separated windows now persist through session changes/close properly if applicable, which was a much-demanded item. Looting is still a mess, reaction chains are more cumbersome than they used to be, and basically...well...with some serious fixes it'll be great. But...serious fixes.
These changes may be small in and of themselves, however they do make life in WH's (and around pos's in general) more difficult.
Still not Un-Subbing for this - CCP will get it sorted.
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
80
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:55:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:CCP can't keep old stuff evertime they make a new iteration on the game.
Also, people use the old ship hanger view? Really? Yeah, I don't use CQ. Never will (unless something really intriguing comes out of it - don't see it happning). Also - removing functionality (that was there before) and making it *harder* to do things is not good UI coding... One of my corpies had this to say: Quote:Okay, I checked a couple of things when I was updating my skill queue yesterday. You can still access SMAs from right click menu, so my nightmare of having to click through a bunch of unnamed SMAs to find my ships has not come to pass. Apparently CHAs cannot be accessed from space/right click any more because you have to open individual tabs from the inventory. You can still see tabs you don't have access to in the inventory tree, which they initially weren't going to do, but seem to have bowed to player insistence that that is a dumbass idea.
Opening your cargo hold on grid with our main POS lags out like **** because it has to load everything on grid, and you still can't separate out windows and have them stay separated (you can separate windows with shift-click, which has not been well publicized).
Separated windows now persist through session changes/close properly if applicable, which was a much-demanded item. Looting is still a mess, reaction chains are more cumbersome than they used to be, and basically...well...with some serious fixes it'll be great. But...serious fixes. These changes may be small in and of themselves, however they do make life in WH's (and around pos's in general) more difficult. Still not Un-Subbing for this - CCP will get it sorted.
I hope so, I hope so |

Haulie Berry
108
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:00:00 -
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I am certainly not.
I do not like the new inventory system, but I'm certain of two things:
1. They will further refine and improve the system. 2. I will get used to it.
It is not bad across the board. I like many of its features (filters are great), it's just a little cumbersome to use.
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Aria Blake
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:08:00 -
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Adept or Die ! 
To be honest, i like the new Inventory.
Remember : "Evolution needs sacrfices !"
The only sacrifices i can see is to give up old habits. Don`t be afraid of new things, use them and tell CCP what can be improved.
Greetz Aria |

Babel Matrix
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:11:00 -
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The new inventory system is glorious! Confirming that if CCP keeps these improvements in, I'll be tempted to join the legion of multi-accounters.
I can see why people with bots would be mad though; new UI means their bots need updating! Poor bots! |

Potrondal Morrison
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:14:00 -
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Babel Matrix wrote:The new inventory system is glorious! Confirming that if CCP keeps these improvements in, I'll be tempted to join the legion of multi-accounters.
I can see why people with bots would be mad though; new UI means their bots need updating! Poor bots!
are you suggesting the OP is a botter? |

nomad Raholan
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Gaufres wrote:for those who think the new system is better, empty all your cans in your hanger, then see how long it takes you to put everything back in the cans when you can not have several cans open at the same time as the hanger and switch to another without screwing up what you have already set.
You don't need to have cans open to put stuff in them, your cans appear in the tree view, label them as you want then just drag and drop to the appropriate can in the tree. Then wait for move to complete, scroll back through the index to the original place click to reopen it and repeat, many times, if you want to move multiple items from the hold of an orca to cans in your main inventory. If the can you were dropping into didn't open each time you dropped something in it, the idea of dropping to cans in the index would work well.
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
410
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:15:00 -
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This is madness!
I shall unsub my 30 accounts, resub, and then unsub them again repeatedly until SOMETHING IS DONE!
Give me a break. OP is a drama queen hitting refresh on this thread repeatedly and secretly hoping for likes. The changes complained of are irrelevant. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Potrondal Morrison
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:18:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote: This is madness!
I shall unsub my 30 accounts, resub, and then unsub them again repeatedly until SOMETHING IS DONE!
Give me a break. OP is a drama queen hitting refresh on this thread repeatedly and secretly hoping for likes. The changes complained of are irrelevant.
Dont post in his thread you troll...DAMN IT!!!!
(in before OP) |

IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
312
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:18:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote: something stupid
Not sure if actually serious. 'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
~I fly spaceships~ |

IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
312
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:20:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:CCP can't keep old stuff evertime they make a new iteration on the game.
Also, people use the old ship hanger view? Really? Yeah, I don't use CQ. Never will (unless something really intriguing comes out of it - don't see it happning). Also - removing functionality (that was there before) and making it *harder* to do things is not good UI coding... One of my corpies had this to say: Quote:Okay, I checked a couple of things when I was updating my skill queue yesterday. You can still access SMAs from right click menu, so my nightmare of having to click through a bunch of unnamed SMAs to find my ships has not come to pass. Apparently CHAs cannot be accessed from space/right click any more because you have to open individual tabs from the inventory. You can still see tabs you don't have access to in the inventory tree, which they initially weren't going to do, but seem to have bowed to player insistence that that is a dumbass idea.
Opening your cargo hold on grid with our main POS lags out like **** because it has to load everything on grid, and you still can't separate out windows and have them stay separated (you can separate windows with shift-click, which has not been well publicized).
Separated windows now persist through session changes/close properly if applicable, which was a much-demanded item. Looting is still a mess, reaction chains are more cumbersome than they used to be, and basically...well...with some serious fixes it'll be great. But...serious fixes. These changes may be small in and of themselves, however they do make life in WH's (and around pos's in general) more difficult. Still not Un-Subbing for this - CCP will get it sorted.
It's not that bad once you get used to it. I think it's an improvement in even this context. 'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
~I fly spaceships~ |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:23:00 -
[295] - Quote
My "dream" UI
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112468 |

highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
79
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:25:00 -
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Hey, instead of being a whiney little girl.
try using the inventory for about 5 min
The first time the window opened, i nearly punched my screen
Once I used it... I LOVED IT!
The only problem is they need to still have the ability to have multiple windows open so I dont have to stretch my inventory all across my screen to see the whole list of inventory locations on the left My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |

nomad Raholan
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:28:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Oh man, this thread is full of geniuses.
1. Hit esc. 2. Hit 'merge items into station environment' under general 3. Yay, you have the old inventory back.
You can un-cancel your subs now, children. Wrong!! you lose corp hangers and when you open a can or ships cargo it still opens in the new view... Maybe you should have actually tried this before posting your 'fix'
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Vigoth Ritic
Frozen Corpse Inc.
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:33:00 -
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WTF ... whos the fraking idiot? CCP you screwed the this one up. I want a option to accept this dumb arse idea. |

Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
137
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:33:00 -
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This is not the EVE i started to play
UI changes make it all the time harder to focus actual gameplay.
Now you have to use lot of time just to adjust thing to make UI itself to work.
I am considering not to pay anymore, only reason why even pay for now is that i have so much isk that i can pay with plex, but maybe it is not worth even for that anymore.
possible -10 accounts. |

Karash Amerius
Sutoka
50
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Posted - 2012.05.23 15:57:00 -
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Just went through a few hours with my trading alt, and also did a level 4 mission.
You guys are smoking crack. Inventory is not that bad...vastly different yes, but not something to throw a tantrum about. I think it needs iteration for sure, seems a bit clumsy...but workable.
Now I don't now how hard POS operations are as I left that sort of game play long ago. Sort of serves you right for even dealing with POS structures in my book. Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka |
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