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AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:24:00 -
[541] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Change scares old folks I guess.
Just because they 'changed' something, doesn't mean it's better. During the Dark Ages, that was a change from b4, would u say that too was better? |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:24:00 -
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Adalun Dey wrote:AkaiDruiD I wrote:And the reason there is DOS, and always will be DOS, Is cause 'Windows' is a simple interface for ur simple mind. One simple line of assembly code will prevent ur 'Windows' from loading, and u'll be stuck at a black screen staring at C:\_ , thinkin' to urself, "wtf is this?" LAUNCHING EVE IN DOSc:\ e: e:\ cd games e:\GAMES cd EveOnline e:\GAMES\EVEONLINE eve.exe *game launches* LAUNCHING EVE IN WINDOWS*double click desktop icon* *game launches* Now you tell me which one is more practical?
agreed but I think the fundamental issue is you are arguing with someone who cant be bothered even to spell out the words he uses TO argue with. Shows a lack of intelligence http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1978
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:25:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Mandy Stafford wrote:I don't like it, but not unsubbing over something so trivial. +1 for you being dumb. Not so trivial as you might think. I'm sure for the 99% of EVE that has under a hundred items in their hanger it's just peachy. Try having many thousands of separate items that amount to many billions of units like my builder and watch it take nearly a minute to load every time you want to do something. And a filtering system that is so basic, all my stuff will never leave the station containers that they have always been in. Will I unsub over it? Of course not. But it definitely needs a lot of work before I change how I do my organizing. Mr Epeen 
Actually a pretty decent post.
They do need to isolate what is causing that lag for some people, as for many of us there is no issue. I have huge amounts of inventory I move routinely on my industrial characters, yet despite the fact that my computer is somewhat starved for resources I am experiencing no more delay than before, while others (like yourself) obviously are.
I believe better filtering and naming mechanics are high on the list to work on. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Newz Bie
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:25:00 -
[544] - Quote
I got 700 accounts and im unsubbing them all. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:27:00 -
[545] - Quote
Newz Bie wrote:I got 700 accounts and im unsubbing them all.
Oh yeah? well that means I just gotta buy up 1400 more. Im rich I can do it
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:29:00 -
[546] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Change scares old folks I guess. Hey now!  The simple fact is that if we had this new system right off the bat, and CCP tried to change it to the old system, people would be screaming about being forced to open separate windows to do anything.
In that case, it would be right to call that an 'Update' and I'd be playing atm...let's see; -less lag because loading of useless isk nfo would be gone -more room on HUD now due to lack of 'tree' -Faster and more efficient looting/mining/POS
Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs? |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1978
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:29:00 -
[547] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:Adalun Dey wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:THIS ^^ is a promotional advertisement.
How do you respond after ACTUAL usage ? I AM using it right now. This isn't anything CCP invented either, if this was a bad file management system, it wouldn't have been used in every single iteration of Windows since 3.11. In EVE It requires some getting used to after using the old system for so long, but I suspect the learning curve to be rather low. I do agree though that CCP should have kept the option to use the old system as well though. We still have DOS in Windows too after all. Not all of us like playing 'Windows OS'. It's an OS, not a game. And the reason there is DOS, and always will be DOS, Is cause 'Windows' is a simple interface for ur simple mind. One simple line of assembly code will prevent ur 'Windows' from loading, and u'll be stuck at a black screen staring at C:\_ , thinkin' to urself, "wtf is this?" Wait, so your argument is that DOS is better to use than Windows... which means a system nearly identical to the OS we are all intimately familiar with is therefore far worse to use? REALLY?!? My argument is if there was no DOS, there would be no 'Windows'. And if there were no 'Windows' there would STILL be DOS. I've used pc's b4 there were 'windows'. 'Windows' is better in the sense that for ur simple minds, little pretty pictures are easier for u to comprehend ;) But with one line of assembly code written in a DOS environment, all ur pretty little pictures will burn. Also assembly coding or any other coding is very tedious in a DOS environment, so in that case, a 'windows' type environment is preferred. But in the end...it comes down to DOS, and on/off registers....
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:31:00 -
[548] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs?
better question;
your "e" key obviously works, why abbreviate years lol
why you years.
Seriously.
YOU look less stupid when YOU type out all the words instead of the way YOU do it. Unless YOU want to look less, then more power to YOU
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.
lol... internet savvy Ahmish http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:33:00 -
[549] - Quote
Basically Acai berry Druid is an old fogey and should get with the times, Gramps. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:34:00 -
[550] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:My argument is if there was no DOS, there would be no 'Windows'. And if there were no 'Windows' there would STILL be DOS. I've used pc's b4 there were 'windows'. 'Windows' is better in the sense that for ur simple minds, little pretty pictures are easier for u to comprehend ;) But with one line of assembly code written in a DOS environment, all ur pretty little pictures will burn. Also assembly coding or any other coding is very tedious in a DOS environment, so in that case, a 'windows' type environment is preferred. But in the end...it comes down to DOS, and on/off registers.... Getting an overview of what's on your harddrive was very impractical in DOS. That's why Norton Commander was such a useful program. And guess what that looked like, right, Windows Explorer.
" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:35:00 -
[551] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
agreed but I think the fundamental issue is you are arguing with someone who cant be bothered even to spell out the words he uses TO argue with. Shows a lack of intelligence
My fav troll is back ;) \o/ sry if my abbrev r hard for u to understand. Thank GOD u have 'Windows' ;P Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò« |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1978
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:38:00 -
[552] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Change scares old folks I guess. Hey now!  The simple fact is that if we had this new system right off the bat, and CCP tried to change it to the old system, people would be screaming about being forced to open separate windows to do anything. In that case, it would be right to call that an 'Update' and I'd be playing atm...let's see; -less lag because loading of useless isk nfo would be gone -more room on HUD now due to lack of 'tree' -Faster and more efficient looting/mining/POS Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs?
Because that is all we had. 
- Lag issues affect some with large inventories and not others. It is unlikely that the ISK value is the source of the lag issues that some are experiencing. You are assuming things you have no real information on, stop pretending that you do.
- The "Tree" takes up far less space than a multitude of now useless windows. Moving inventory requires 1/2 inch of dragging as opposed to dragging all the way across your screen.
- Looting is just as fast as it always was unless you were in the habit of opening all of your windows ahead of time and clicking loot all in rapid succession (same number of clicks, by the way), and this is already being addressed as the Dev Bog pointed out.
How many times do people need to explain these things before it begins to sink in, seriously. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:39:00 -
[553] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
agreed but I think the fundamental issue is you are arguing with someone who cant be bothered even to spell out the words he uses TO argue with. Shows a lack of intelligence
My fav troll is back ;) \o/ sry if my abbrev r hard for u to understand. Thank GOD u have 'Windows' ;P Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«
Ah good, show that IQ lol
I mean as long as you dont care you look like an idiot, its all good then I guess. http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:39:00 -
[554] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.
Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;) |

Jonuts
The Arrow Project CORE.
27
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:40:00 -
[555] - Quote
Well, if you want to go along with this argument about it being like windows, let me shoot that turkey down for you real quick.
It's like windows, if you removed every shortcut I have, prevented the creation of new shortcuts, removed the desk top, and left me having to go dig through the menu system EVERY TIME I want to get to something. So basically, it's like windows with any and all semblance of user-friendliness removed. And I still want to see the person responsible for implementing this beaten with a lead pipe. |

AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:41:00 -
[556] - Quote
Adalun Dey wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:My argument is if there was no DOS, there would be no 'Windows'. And if there were no 'Windows' there would STILL be DOS. I've used pc's b4 there were 'windows'. 'Windows' is better in the sense that for ur simple minds, little pretty pictures are easier for u to comprehend ;) But with one line of assembly code written in a DOS environment, all ur pretty little pictures will burn. Also assembly coding or any other coding is very tedious in a DOS environment, so in that case, a 'windows' type environment is preferred. But in the end...it comes down to DOS, and on/off registers.... Getting an overview of what's on your harddrive was very impractical in DOS. That's why Norton Commander was such a useful program. And guess what that looked like, right, Windows Explorer.
EXACTLY!!! so sum1 like u could use it TOO ;) lmao |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:42:00 -
[557] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)
thats what bayonettes are for and more guns lol
the truck is full of em Ahmish
an that porche, its solar lol
might as well pretend since you are
love your argument tho; yes, technology is the devil, u should take your computer an throw it out the window then cause its evil too http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:42:00 -
[558] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)
This settles it, Acai Berry Druid is the world biggest nerd. Tell us more about your asian kickboxing girlfriend. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1978
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:42:00 -
[559] - Quote
AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)
I think that pretty much ends any confusion about whether you are trolling or not.
Next. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:44:00 -
[560] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;) I think that pretty much ends any confusion about whether you are trolling or not. Next.
Agreed. It explains the typing style. http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Jonuts
The Arrow Project CORE.
27
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:46:00 -
[561] - Quote
Zhihatsu wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;) This settles it, Acai Berry Druid is the world biggest nerd. Tell us more about your asian kickboxing girlfriend.
Those exist? I've tried getting one, but you know how hard it is to find a woman into martial arts who isn't Married, 12, or there because her boyfriend brought her? I gave up on that pipe dream a while ago :( |

AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:47:00 -
[562] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote: better question;
your "e" key obviously works, why abbreviate years lol
why you years.
Seriously.
YOU look less stupid when YOU type out all the words instead of the way YOU do it. Unless YOU want to look less, then more power to YOU
Would a pic be better for u? Do u want a pic? |

I Accidentally YourShip
eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie
173
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:50:00 -
[563] - Quote
Zhihatsu wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;) This settles it, Acai Berry Druid is the world biggest nerd. Tell us more about your asian kickboxing girlfriend.
I resent nerds being associated with Acai Berry. Samurai swords, oldschool IRC chat speak and talking about using a "line of assembly" in DOS screams of weaboo google warrior, and someone who wears a helmet at all times.
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Tark en Chalune
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
4
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:50:00 -
[564] - Quote
Montevius Williams wrote:Im going to add 10 accounts just to spite OP.
Can I have you shite?
Adding or subtracting 10 PLEXed accounts will do nothing. Feel free to burn ISK for 10 more accounts.
Unsubbing will eventually cause PLEX to soar in ISK price and CCP revenue to drop.
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Jonuts
The Arrow Project CORE.
28
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:51:00 -
[565] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Jonuts wrote:Well, if you want to go along with this argument about it being like windows, let me shoot that turkey down for you real quick.
It's like windows, if you removed every shortcut I have, prevented the creation of new shortcuts, removed the desk top, and left me having to go dig through the menu system EVERY TIME I want to get to something. So basically, it's like windows with any and all semblance of user-friendliness removed. And I still want to see the person responsible for implementing this beaten with a lead pipe. All of your "short cuts" are conveniently grouped in the menu that we call the "tree". Work is currently underway to make this easier to access and organize, a "favorites" menu if you prefer. Relax.
So again, I have to go digging for what I need instead of clicking the icon on my desktop? This is an improvement...how? |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:52:00 -
[566] - Quote
Tark en Chalune wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:Im going to add 10 accounts just to spite OP.
Can I have you shite? Adding or subtracting 10 PLEXed accounts will do nothing. Feel free to burn ISK for 10 more accounts. Unsubbing will eventually cause PLEX to soar in ISK price and CCP revenue to drop.
I add real money accounds when I talk of adding them. Ill add 20 just in case. Im rich like that. http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:52:00 -
[567] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.
Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.
Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do. Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;) thats what bayonettes are for and more guns lol the truck is full of em Ahmish an that porche, its solar lol might as well pretend since you are love your argument tho; yes, technology is the devil, u should take your computer an throw it out the window then cause its evil too
Are we going to pretend u have a brain also? LMAO |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1978
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:54:00 -
[568] - Quote
Tark en Chalune wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:Im going to add 10 accounts just to spite OP.
Can I have you shite? Adding or subtracting 10 PLEXed accounts will do nothing. Feel free to burn ISK for 10 more accounts. Unsubbing will eventually cause PLEX to soar in ISK price and CCP revenue to drop.
The "I'm going to stage a mass unsub frenzy" worked once over some very important issues.
Trying to ride that dead horse over every minor change puts you squarely on the community laughing stock list. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
18
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:55:00 -
[569] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:AkaiDruiD II wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Change scares old folks I guess. Hey now!  The simple fact is that if we had this new system right off the bat, and CCP tried to change it to the old system, people would be screaming about being forced to open separate windows to do anything. In that case, it would be right to call that an 'Update' and I'd be playing atm...let's see; -less lag because loading of useless isk nfo would be gone -more room on HUD now due to lack of 'tree' -Faster and more efficient looting/mining/POS Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs? Because that is all we had.  - Lag issues affect some with large inventories and not others. It is unlikely that the ISK value is the source of the lag issues that some are experiencing. You are assuming things you have no real information on, stop pretending that you do. - The "Tree" takes up far less space than a multitude of now useless windows. Moving inventory requires 1/2 inch of dragging as opposed to dragging all the way across your screen. - Looting is just as fast as it always was unless you were in the habit of opening all of your windows ahead of time and clicking loot all in rapid succession (same number of clicks, by the way), and this is already being addressed as the Dev Bog pointed out. How many times do people need to explain these things before it begins to sink in, seriously.
you can say over and over that 2 +2 = 5.. but .. it really only =4..
and if that isnt simple enough, it means that no matter how often you repeat a lie, it will never be the truth.
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AkaiDruiD II
Jol-Nar Industries Twilight Imperium
49
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:57:00 -
[570] - Quote
Zhihatsu wrote:Basically Acai berry Druid is an old fogey and should get with the times, Gramps.
did u use the words "old fogey"? lmao... I rest my case with u
Mr. Trump says, "Dumbazz, ...You're Fired" |
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