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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:14:00 -
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I've tried to like them. I really want to like them. But I just can't. They don't seem like they are appropriate for space combat; feels like they came straight out of a flight combat game with their smoke trails and what not. The old missiles had that old Star Trek-y feel for some reason. I also don't really like the launchers. The Cruise/Torpedo ones are cool because they are "inside" the ship, but the external ones again look like they belong in a flight combat game. Especially Rocket Launchers.
Point of this thread? I don't know. Just felt I needed to share it.
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:16:00 -
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Bel Amar
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:20:00 -
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You must be really bummed about EVE's space physics then huh? |
Tiberius Murderhorne
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:21:00 -
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Players of eve.... Never happy...
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Saladinae
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:21:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:I've tried to like them. I really want to like them. But I just can't. They don't seem like they are appropriate for space combat; feels like they came straight out of a flight combat game with their smoke trails and what not. The old missiles had that old Star Trek-y feel for some reason. I also don't really like the launchers. The Cruise/Torpedo ones are cool because they are "inside" the ship, but the external ones again look like they belong in a flight combat game. Especially Rocket Launchers.
Point of this thread? I don't know. Just felt I needed to share it.
You sir are in a very small minority. Also, try a rocket heretic for giggles. Load different ammos into all of the launchers for some fireworks!
Winmatar > Everything else |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:21:00 -
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Bel Amar wrote:You must be really bummed about EVE's space physics then huh?
Naw they're fine. They are not unlike Star Trek physics.
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:47:00 -
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Problem with missiles is that you cannot see them at a distance. I'm in two minds about the smoke feel they are a bit to smokey. Love the launchers.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:49:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:I've tried to like them. I really want to like them. But I just can't. They don't seem like they are appropriate for space combat; feels like they came straight out of a flight combat game with their smoke trails and what not. The old missiles had that old Star Trek-y feel for some reason. I also don't really like the launchers. The Cruise/Torpedo ones are cool because they are "inside" the ship, but the external ones again look like they belong in a flight combat game. Especially Rocket Launchers.
Point of this thread? I don't know. Just felt I needed to share it.
it's OK man, there's no need to feel ashamed. You've correctly recognised that you have a problem, and that's the hard part. Simply ask your doctor to refer you to the appropriate specialist and the rest will pretty much take care of itself.
Godspeed and good luck with your treatment.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:51:00 -
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Ya they look dumb, the FPS hit is lol... the launchers are lol (WAY to large on something like a ceptor)
The like hit all over scatter thing is dumb... Looks like little fireworks hitting a ship too... |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:59:00 -
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alittlebirdy wrote:Ya they look dumb, the FPS hit is lol... the launchers are lol (WAY to large on something like a ceptor)
The like hit all over scatter thing is dumb... Looks like little fireworks hitting a ship too...
Honestly, the impact reminds me of snowballs hitting the hull.
poff! poff! poff!
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
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Sarina Berghil
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:00:00 -
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I can see what you mean, smoke and explosives probably shouldn't look like that in space. But then again ships explode all the time in EVE and I've gotten used to that.
Eve uses flight game physics, flight game graphics, flight game everything, because we probably wouldn't be able to relate to realistic space stuff. But we have seen plenty of dogfites in movies.
I remember one space game that tried to be realistic, the sequel to Elite. It was called Frontier and was 80% unplayable. I had one kill in that game, a fight that lasted 5 hours straight without being able to dock and save. It was a cool game in it's own way, but not really suitable for playing.
All I meant to say is that I appreciate that EVE often use the rule of cool, instead of trying to be realistic.
There's a nice video of Frontier on youtube, but the guy playing just do some trading on auto-pilot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt29cTOWgzI |
ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:08:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote: They don't seem like they are appropriate for space combat; feels like they came straight out of a flight combat game with their smoke trails and what not. The old missiles had that old Star Trek-y feel for some reason.
So much this!
Something just seemed of, couldn-¦t put a finger on it and that-¦s exactly it!.
Those are no SciFi missiles but crap that would launch from today-¦s ships/subs and AA-batteries.
Once the novelty wears of it will be one more thing people will want to switch off.
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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:08:00 -
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Sarina Berghil wrote:
Eve uses flight game physics, flight game graphics, flight game everything, because we probably wouldn't be able to relate to realistic space stuff. But we have seen plenty of dogfites in movies.
But it is the sort of space combat we've grown to expect from franchises such as Star Trek and Star Wars, amongst others. Honestly, I don't feel like I am flying an airplane in a space-like environment; I feel like I am flying a space ship.
The new missiles and their launchers, however.... they're just too airplane-y.
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:15:00 -
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Watch this entire video and you'll understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BzXfVgYCxWI#t=10s
It's simple Caldari philosophy. |
Jafit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:15:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:I've tried to like them. I really want to like them. But I just can't. They don't seem like they are appropriate for space combat
Excuse me while I just ROLL and PITCH my ship in order to turn it instead of just firing some thrusters to YAW to my desired heading.
Also excuse me while my ship reaches terminal velocity as it flies through the viscous space aether that also slows the ship down to zero after my engines stop firing.
Let me tell you about 'real' space combat. 2 Ships spot each other in space, fire nuclear missiles at each other from 8AU away, the missiles cross each other and both ships die about 2 weeks after they originally fire ze missiles. |
Spartan SC
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:16:00 -
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the launchers r good i assume...but really dislike the smoky missiles as well. i strongly recommend the engineer of CCP should think abt real physics in space more! |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:19:00 -
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Guess you're not a fan of Robotech
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:28:00 -
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Stop using crappy mangas to make your non existing point. EVE has it-¦s own "science" and even by those standards these missiles are off.
That-¦s nice and completely irrelevant to EVE. Barely extrapolating the crappy contemporary science.
Reminds me of how the 50ies thought the year 2000 would look, actually they had more creative imagination then the above site displays. |
Luis Graca
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:29:00 -
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Next time drink some water |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:30:00 -
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Jafit wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I've tried to like them. I really want to like them. But I just can't. They don't seem like they are appropriate for space combat Excuse me while I just ROLL and PITCH my ship in order to turn it instead of just firing some thrusters to YAW to my desired heading. Also excuse me while my ship reaches terminal velocity as it flies through the viscous space aether that also slows the ship down to zero after my engines stop firing. Let me tell you about 'real' space combat. 2 Ships spot each other in space, fire nuclear missiles at each other from 8AU away, the missiles cross each other and both ships die about 2 weeks after they originally fire ze missiles.
As I have stated again and again, Star trek does it like EVE and we've grown to accept it as plausible in our collective nerdy hive mind.
Spartan SC wrote:the launchers r good i assume...but really dislike the smoky missiles as well. i strongly recommend the engineer of CCP should think abt real physics in space more!
If they made the trails a bit less intense and made them into firey orange (like the old missiles) it would be fine. Oh yeah, fix the snowball-like impact of the missiles too.
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:35:00 -
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And here I thought that chemical reactions burning could indeed create smoke in space that would slowly dissipate as the atoms in the vapor drifted apart.
Then again, I also thought that explosions could ignite ships full of oxygen in space, at least until the oxygen burned off.
What do I know.....
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:50:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:What do I know..... Not much it seems.
Like for instance that chemical (reaction) propulsion has no businesses being in space as it-¦s much too inefficient to get anything properly done. |
Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
Stay Calm Don't Panic
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:59:00 -
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My pants goes tight when my Legion Fires those HAM Missiles....
It just looks sexy....
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The Crazy African
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Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:02:00 -
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alittlebirdy wrote:Ya they look dumb, the FPS hit is lol...
ive gotten no FPS hit on my rig. Hasnt even effected it. Time for an upgrade, or turn down ur settings i think.
1 thing i would like to comment & agrere upon, is, you cant see them from a distance, to a flame trail/marker should be at least visible, as so i can see where there going at great distances.
And as for the scatterring effect, i personally think its great. hitting the same place on an object was gettign a bit boring. Next thing i want to see, is impact on shields ( if there's any left lol ) with some sort of effect. Only time it should actually be hitting ships hulls, is when your in armor or hull
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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:03:00 -
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Quote:If they made the trails a bit less intense and made them into firey orange (like the old missiles) it would be fine. Oh yeah, fix the snowball-like impact of the missiles too.
Don't have much issue with missiles except the fact that they look like male reproductive cells when fired en masse. |
ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:07:00 -
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And this is how crappy an actual chemical rocket exhaust looks in space.
LEO in this case but the absence of an atmosphere to interact with is the point here. |
Dapud
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:15:00 -
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Tiberius Murderhorne wrote:Players of eve.... Never happy...
How dare he dislike something. |
BTL Thumps Up
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:44:00 -
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THEY LOOK AWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEESOOOMMME
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THUMPS UP IF BTL |
Kaito Kurusaki
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:55:00 -
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Why exactly wouldn't there be smoketrails in space?
All you need is to add oxygen into the fuel |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:02:00 -
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Try to see missile effects as eye candy, then they are easy to like.
You want fries with that? |
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