Somewhere along the way, I began taking success for granted. As hubris set in, I became less inclined to listen to pleas for caution. Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans

If you wait a few days your bot programmer will fix the bot for you. Meanwhile, use any of the other whine threads or just stop flooding the forum with your tears.

If you wait a few days your bot programmer will fix the bot for you.

Hellmar is busy but sent me here to report his reply: *BUuUURP*

Now stop calling people out on forums and go play

Oh look, it's this idiotic argument. It's really spreading like wildfire among those not gifted with sentient thought.

You realise, of course, that the complaints are largely about things that botters are not concerned with and that, if anything, bots will probably be easier to make with the new UI? Oh wait. Sentient thought. Sorry, forgot.

Although someone needs to be slapped upside the head for ignoring the Sisi feedback.

It was not an argument, it's a fact.

Spamming the forums with whine is not exactly sentient behaviour either.

third the point of this thread isn't to complain about the UI as CCPs direction here, even if you love the UI surely you can see that they're going back on some pretty important promises for every player here?

You can't compare Incarna with the Unified Inventory, as god-awful as it is.

The unified inventory was not a business strategy, signed off at high levels that drains money from players. Instead it was simply an attempt at making something better for the players that got seriously screwed up somewhere in coding. Which is forgiveable.

Although someone needs to be slapped upside the head for ignoring the Sisi feedback.

Have you tried emailing him directly?

design by committee doesn't work, design by democracy is even worse.

removing the new inventory UI will lead to just as many rage threads from those of us who love it

giving the option to have both only results in maintenance issues further down the road (due to having to maintain two codebases) and will set a precedent that will force CCP to make every UI change optional.

people said the same things they say now about the new inventory UI about the new neocom when it was released - and CCP made the experience that after a few patches most people went on happily with their lives.

if the concept art we saw at FF is any indication of where things are heading we will see a lot more UI changes (with accompanying protests) in the future.

Do you want to freeze the pre-Incarna client UI and maintain it as a separate mode for the next five years?

Or do you want to allow people to choose any combination of UI elements they desire? old necom, new contracts interface, old mail interface, new inventory, no debuff indicator?
At that point you will not only have a buggy dependance nighmare, you'll also have the paradox of choice set in.

people said the same things they say now about the new inventory UI about the new neocom when it was released - and CCP made the experience that after a few patches most people went on happily with their lives.

if the concept art we saw at FF is any indication of where things are heading we will see a lot more UI changes (with accompanying protests) in the future.

Do you want to freeze the pre-Incarna client UI and maintain it as a separate mode for the next five years?

also emailing the CEO over a UI change is extremely ridiculous - he does business strategy, not client development.

if you want to complain to anyone who is high on the corporate ladder, then complain to Unifex as that is his domain/responsibility.

once again i'm not saying that the new UI should be removed completely, i'm saying it should be made optional so that everybody is happy. surely everybody can see that

i'd love to, except the UI is terrible for me and has turned what was a fun game for me into something i'd prefer to avoid,

So you're saying that the EVE developers should develop a game that makes everyone happy? Options can be setup so everyone can play the way they want? That works for little things like Walking in Station vs Ship Spinning, and possibly even New vs Old Inventory UI, but where do you draw the line? Do you let carebears turn on an option so they can't be suicide ganked? Do implement a system to can flipping or ninja looting? Do you put rules in place to prevent contract scamming? Add swords and magic for those who'd rather play in a fantasy world?

The best CCP can do is implement their vision of a space simulator, and let players in. Players then decide whether or not they want to play in the world CCP has created.

So you're saying that the EVE developers should develop a game that makes everyone happy? Options can be setup so everyone can play the way they want? That works for little things like Walking in Station vs Ship Spinning, and possibly even New vs Old Inventory UI, but where do you draw the line? Do you let carebears turn on an option so they can't be suicide ganked? Do implement a system to can flipping or ninja looting? Do you put rules in place to prevent contract scamming? Add swords and magic for those who'd rather play in a fantasy world?

I think you see where I'm going with this. It's just not possible to make everybody happy. The best CCP can do is implement their vision of a space simulator, and let players in. Players then decide whether or not they want to play in the world CCP has created.




Are you actually claiming that the change in the Inventory UI has made EVE unplayable for you? Seriously?

Adapt or biomass...

No, it's not. It's just blatant idiocy.

So stop doing it. You only reinforce the point.

if i knew his email i would love to.