[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

32k tank +4 implant needed

[Hulk, New Setup 2]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

22.4k tank no implants needed.

a titan takes a few billion units of trit

If they removed mining they'd remove the only stuff left in game that:

- may be killed by the terribles who really believe they are PvPing and that an Hulk killmail is as good for a killboard as is having a carrier kill.

- populates the forums. Apart from the current UI threads, the forums would be dead without miners crying and "PvPers" gloating over them.

- populate hi sec. Without miners dying, all that would happen would be some suicide ganking at Uedama / Sivala etc. and some booooooring POS bashing.


Basically EvE is so flat and boring that without some muppets to kill and pretend something is still going on, then people would realize all what's left to do is to go in 0.0...


... only to meet a NAP fest.

I really don't get why you empire miners don't just go mine in lowsec or nullsec where you can at least manage the risk by getting safe whenever any neutral enters local.

Or why don't you at least manage your risk by flying a cheap coveter instead of a hulk?

Or I dunno, maybe TANK your hulks as that's what they're for.

But no... instead of doing any of those things you mine in highsec where there are dozens of neutrals in local and any one of them could be a suicide ganker who can pop your untanked hulks with a couple of catalysts. Why? Because you don't want to have to pay any attention to Eve or work with other players? Hey, how about playing a single player game instead?

Instead of adapting to changing conditions you just whine and bleat like impotent self-entitled children. You have no sympathy from me, you are dumb and you deserve to die.

it seems like CCP is going towards the removal of so-called 'gun mining.

It's PPS, not PSS. PPS stands for "post-post script" in the same way that PS stands for "post script".

Tell that to the gunfarming of datacores

Continuing the Alliance Tournament...

Soundwave: "Ummm, that was a pretty good match."

Kil2: "Yea, though it was close for a while, I knew that Highly Popular was going to beat Nobody Important."

Verone: "Well, it seemed Nobody Important had the edge but suddenly... it seemed the game paused. When it resumed, suddenly Nobody Important had one ship left and Highly Popular had their whole fleet again?"

Soundwave: "Yea, ummm what an awesome match! Ummm, anyone see the alliance tournament cat?"

Verone: "It ran off..."

Kil2: "...when you started talking about how awesome you are Soundwave."

Soundwave: "Ummm, speaking of awesome, ummm, I have another awesome idea I am going to share. But ummm, let me check the forums first." Soundwave reads a huge outcry about the last match potentially being fixed by a time dilation bug being one-sided. "Ummm, not too much going on there so ummm onward to my awesome idea."

Both Kil2 and Verone appear disinterested.

Soundwave: "Ummm, after the successful reduction of data cores from those broken research agents ummm to Factional Warfare, we created another ummm awesome idea!" Soundwave pauses and stares into the camera for affect. "CCP Doesnotplaythegame and I have ummm not decided whether to double the timers for ummm miner lasers and stuff or half the extraction per cycle."

Kil2: "Say what?"

Soundwave stares deeper into the camera before continuing, "Ummm or do both!"

Verone: "You want to break the foundation for the whole game?"

Soundwave: "Oh no, no ummm you see, we're moving part of ummm the mining mineral piles to be bought with Factional Warfare loyalty points!"

Kil2: "Say what?"

Soundwave: "Ummm it will be so awesome! Ummm, the perfect cycle - destroy ships, get loyalty points, purchase minerals to destroy more ships - so awesome! Verone, as ummm a low sec pirate, you should love it!"

Verone: "But what about players that are miners and their skills invested?"

Soundwave: "Errr... who care? Ummm, I see the clock on the wall says our next match is about to start, so ummm, let's get right into it!"

The cameraman, a mining player in the game, twists the camera to stare at the ceiling and follows in the footsteps of the alliance tournament cat.

What?

Peopsicles?

The problem is it isn't worth the isk/hr for you to mine with 3 of your buddies in logi. It isn't even worth the isk/hr for you to mine, unless you're doing it without effort (afk/botting). And it's that way because of botting.

this is the most ******** thread ever... CCP will NEVER remove mining no matter how many people want it to be because its ******* core to the game... whoever thinks otherwise can go back to runescape theyre not needed in eve period

No

The problem is you are dying in droves because you are chasing 2 mill profit at the expense of a 300 mill hull

You have to sacrifice a bit to survive

Check fit with DCU for another great fit

Players have been killing miners since 2003, and they are still here. If it's profitable enough, people will do it no matter what. So while gankers may kill miners, it are the mining bots that actually threaten the profession itself.

But if you make it harder to find you by mining in a remote backwater system, combined by mining in missions or gravi sites. And you make it harder to surprise you by adding prolific gankers as contacts and keeping an eye out for combat probes and suspicious ship-types. And you make it harder to gank your ships by adding a T3 booster some Logi-support to the mining fleet and tanking the hulks (or even go back to mine-apocs).

Combine these all and miners simply won't lose enough ships to keep them in the red. But the min-maxing obsession of most miners makes them always try to squeeze out more yield at the cost of safety. That's what really killing them.

It's PPS, not PSS. PPS stands for "post-post script" in the same way that PS stands for "post script"

You never read past the title

Your trolling skills = noob

Your mommy wants her rent money.

whats the point in the thread... i aint trolling lol just pisses me off when people say **** about something they dnt even do

That's because the OP is trolling. He likes to see his own whine post.