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MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:24:00 -
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The following idea was something that sprang out of a Twitter conversation between me (MailDeadDrop), Thorvik, and CCP_Punkturis. I am only claiming about 1/3rd credit. 
CCP could promote real-world blood donation (a charitable, if not easily monetizable, goal) by having a "Ships for blood" drive. Players would qualify by presenting evidence that they donated (or attempted to donate) a unit of blood. The evidence would be evaluated by CCP (at their discretion), but might include photos, etc. Reward would be some kind of collectable Blood Raider ship (not a balance-upsetting kind, just something to have like the Quafe Iteron IV).
MDD |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
1700
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:25:00 -
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Why? Why does CCP care if you donated blood? |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:27:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Why? Why does CCP care if you donated blood?
Only to promote a worthy real-world goal (like PLEX for charity drives), plus a little in-game tie-in (Blood Raiders).
MDD |
Thorvik
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:47:00 -
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I absolutely support this. Blood is needed every day by people all over the world. It doesn't cost the person donating anything by time (and a little fluid).
Quote:Facts about blood needs
- Every two seconds someone in the U.S. needs blood.
- More than 38,000 blood donations are needed every day.
- A total of 30 million blood components are transfused each year in the U.S. (2006).
- The average red blood cell transfusion is approximately 3 pints.
- The blood type most often requested by hospitals is Type O.
- The blood used in an emergency is already on the shelves before the event occurs.
- Sickle cell disease affects more than 80,000 people in the U.S., 98 percent of whom are African American.
- Sickle cell patients can require frequent blood transfusions throughout their lives.
- More than 1 million new people are diagnosed with cancer each year. Many of them will need blood, sometimes daily, during their chemotherapy treatment.
- A single car accident victim can require as many as 100 pints of blood.
Source: http://www.redcrossblood.org/learn-about-blood/blood-facts-and-statistics
An Auto Accident takes up to of 100 pints of blood. In Canada, there were over 125,000 car accidents in 2009 resulting in 172,000 injured persons. 10,000 of those were children 0-14.
You can give every 56 days. I automatically set up an appointment each time I donate. I'm up to 69 pints (8.6 gal / 32.5 liters). (I missed a few years where I can't find my donor cards anymore so it should be more.) :( I've been donating since I was 17 and I'm much older now.
It's an easy give and it, quite literally, will save someone's life.
Imagine the headline: "Thousands spill real blood from virtual game!" |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
658
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:50:00 -
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This is a fantastic idea! As long as the promotion started later on in the year, and went for a good stretch of time. As I just returned from an overseas duty location last December, I won't be able to donate until this coming December.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures
Surely You're Joking
195
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:54:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:mxzf wrote:Why? Why does CCP care if you donated blood? Only to promote a worthy real-world goal (like PLEX for charity drives), plus a little in-game tie-in (Blood Raiders). MDD
but this would be a blatant mocking of eve's anemic players, as they cannot give blood. were already mocking the colorblind, armless, and the illiterates, lets not add anemics to that list please.
also i ahve a severe phobia of needles, so much so that when i was achild, i tried to stab my doctor with his pen when he wanted to put a needle in my arm. dont like the finger prickings either. |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:58:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:This is a fantastic idea! As long as the promotion started later on in the year, and went for a good stretch of time. As I just returned from an overseas duty location last December, I won't be able to donate until this coming December.
Yes, I'm not imagining a one-month drive or anything that short. As Thorvik indicated, blood is one of those things we always need and never have enough of -- cripes I sound like a mouthpiece for the Blood Raiders themselves; maybe I need to roll a character Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf (a/k/a "Comical Ali").
So a six-month or one-year low-intensity drive would be completely acceptable (to me).
Also, should players be rewarded with a ship for *each* donation made during the time frame?
MDD |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.29 18:59:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:mxzf wrote:Why? Why does CCP care if you donated blood? Only to promote a worthy real-world goal (like PLEX for charity drives), plus a little in-game tie-in (Blood Raiders). MDD but this would be a blatant mocking of eve's anemic players, as they cannot give blood. were already mocking the colorblind, armless, and the illiterates, lets not add anemics to that list please. also i ahve a severe phobia of needles, so much so that when i was achild, i tried to stab my doctor with his pen when he wanted to put a needle in my arm. dont like the finger prickings either.
Ba-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Thank you Nariya; that was quite funny. Have a cookie.
MDD |
Thorvik
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
34
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Posted - 2012.05.29 19:11:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:mxzf wrote:Why? Why does CCP care if you donated blood? Only to promote a worthy real-world goal (like PLEX for charity drives), plus a little in-game tie-in (Blood Raiders). MDD but this would be a blatant mocking of eve's anemic players, as they cannot give blood. were already mocking the colorblind, armless, and the illiterates, lets not add anemics to that list please. also i ahve a severe phobia of needles, so much so that when i was achild, i tried to stab my doctor with his pen when he wanted to put a needle in my arm. dont like the finger prickings either.
It's better to prick your finger than fing.... oh, never mind...  |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:24:00 -
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OK, sorry; I can't help myself. More idea:
CCP holds a blood drive in Reyk (for employees obviously). CCP video team uses it to make kick-off video for the "Ships for blood" contest.
MDD |
HARD STEEL
Caldari Capital Construction Company
20
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:45:00 -
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I think it would be more of a win/win for world of darkness to take this on
ONLY THE HARD.-á ONLY THE STRONG. |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:48:00 -
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HARD STEEL wrote:I think it would be more of a win/win for world of darkness to take this on
Possibly, but I don't play WoD and really know little about it. But maybe someone at CCP will agree with you.
MDD |
Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
4
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:58:00 -
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This is a bloody awesome idea.
From the twitter conversation, I also love the idea of a NOS implant - you need to get that energy back somehow! :P
It would be great for marketing (I assume... :P).
I also agree that it would be a great promotion for WoD, but seeing as that isn't getting released soon(tm), why not do it with EVE?
I, for one, will start spreading the word!  |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.29 21:02:00 -
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Dezolf wrote:From the twitter conversation, I also love the idea of a NOS implant - you need to get that energy back somehow! :P
Yes, I had intentionally left the NOS implant out (which was Thorvik's idea). I am trying to stay away from asking for in-game content that affects the balance of anything, since that would (I assume) just further complicate matters for CCP.
In that vein (heh), I've thought maybe the ISD folks would be useful in vetting the evidence, so that CCP doesn't have any more work to do besides creating the reward ship and seeing that it is appropriately awarded.
MDD |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
300
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Posted - 2012.05.29 21:05:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:but this would be a blatant mocking of eve's anemic players, as they cannot give blood. were already mocking the colorblind, armless, and the illiterates, lets not add anemics to that list please.
also i ahve a severe phobia of needles, so much so that when i was achild, i tried to stab my doctor with his pen when he wanted to put a needle in my arm. dont like the finger prickings either.
To heck with the illiterates... they never write back when I send them letters, they ignore all my emails... |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.30 00:24:00 -
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you guys are so weird
over half of the posts in here made me laugh (pretty good ratio!)
Edit: okay I re-read it, it wasn't over half, it was a little less than half 
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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Shandir
Indigo Archive
149
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Posted - 2012.05.30 01:00:00 -
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I don't support bleed-to-win (b2w for future use) or microtransfusion-based gameplay. Keep Red Ammo out of the game!
(Actually this would be a neat idea, if a little crazy. Frankly I'd be okay with a little imbalance for a genuinely good cause) |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
179
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Posted - 2012.05.30 01:13:00 -
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Did you think the decals on blood raider ships were just paint? 
Seriously cool idea though.  |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.30 01:16:00 -
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Shandir wrote:I don't support bleed-to-win (b2w for future use) or microtransfusion-based gameplay. Keep Red Ammo out of the game!
(Actually this would be a neat idea, if a little crazy. Frankly I'd be okay with a little imbalance for a genuinely good cause)
Shandir, it may be low-blood lightheadedness, but your post literally had me laughing loudly. "Bleed-to-win" has to be the funniest turn-of-phrase I've seen all year. Microtranfusion is a hysterical close second. You, Sir or Madam, should consider comedy writing as a vocation.
MDD |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
270
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Posted - 2012.05.30 02:37:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Possibly, but I don't play WoD
Nor does anybody else for that matter.
Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window.
(Link was wrong, now fixed) |
Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
6
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Posted - 2012.05.30 07:16:00 -
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Loving this idea.
So where do I send the blood I harvest? CCP main office?
(Seriously though, great idea) |
Trollin
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Posted - 2012.05.30 10:54:00 -
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i dont think a ship is in order, and there are lots of people who cant participate, plus it would be an onerous task to "vet" a bunch of "evidence", this game is full of scammers and psychos. I cant imagine people will play fair when it comes to a collectable ship
maybe a decal that can be applied to ships, but def not a ship.
You can't donate blood if...
1. had a positive antibody test for HIV (AIDS virus).
2. not feeling well for any reason.
3. had cancer.
4. had a stroke.
5. had a blood transfusion within the last 12 months.
6. had Chagas disease.
7. ever had myocardial infraction, coronary artery bypass surgery.
8. had hepatitis any time after your eleventh birthday.
9. had open-heart surgery within the past three years.
10. had Tuberculosis (T.B.), you may not give until two years after the completion of treatment.
11. a cold.
12. multiple sclerosis.
13. used narcotic drugs by intravenous route (injection into a vein directly), even once.
14. had the measles then you must wait until 3 weeks from the day of exposure.
15. pregnant, you can't donate until six weeks after delivery.
16. had syphilis in the past 12 months.
17. taken antibiotics, you can't give until two days after a treatment is over if they are for an infection.
18. had an abortion or miscarriage then you must wait six weeks if it is in the first trimester (12 weeks).
19. sniffed ******* or any other restricted drug in the last 12 months.
20. a woman who is menstruating know it is safer to donate a week after.
21. difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, or asthma, know you must have no difficulty breathing on the day of donation.
22. a commercial sex worker.
23. had hepatitis in the mast 12 months.
24. had jaundice in the past 12 months.
25. had a tattoo in the past 6 months.
26. had semi-permanent make up or cosmetic treatments that involve skin piercing in the past six months.
27. received human pituitary extract (a growth hormone/fertility treatment before 1985).
28. ever had syphilis.
29. weigh less than 110 lbs.
30. under 17 in most states, unless you are 16 with parental consent if allowed by state law.
31. male and are shorter than 5'1".
32. male and weigh less than 130.
32. female and are shorter than 5'5".
33. female and weigh less than 150.
34. low hemoglobin/hematocrit levels.
35. an acute infection you should not donate.
36. received immunizations for German Measles (Rubella), MMR (Measles, Mumps & Tubella), Chicken Pox, or Shingles, then you must wait 4 weeks.
37. received immunizations for Red Measles (Rubeola), Mumps, Polio (by mouth), and Yellow Fever, then wait two weeks.
38. ever used bovine (beef) insulin made from cattle from the UK, you are not eligible to donate.
39. on blood thiner.
40. a blood clotting disorder.
41. r blood pressure is above 180 systolic and 100 diastolic, or r blood pressure is under 80 systolic and 50 diastolic.
42. Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD), or a first-degree blood relative with CJD.
43. had Malaria then wait 3 years after completing treatment.
44. sickle cell disease.
45. had oral surgery in the past 3 days.
46. had gonorrhea in the past 12 months.
47. traveled to Iraq in the last 12 months. This is related to concerns about Leishmanaisis.
48. hemochromatosis the American Red Cross will not accept you.
49. a sore throat.
50. a respiratory infection.
51. the flu.
52. already donated whole blood within the last 8 weeks.
53. had a heart attack in the last 6 months.
54. had a bypass surgery in the last 6 months.
55. had angioplasty in the last 6 months.
56. had an episode of angina in the last 6 months.
57. a pacemaker, you may not donate r pulse is below 50 beats per minute, or above 100. You must also have a small number of irregular beats and you must meet the other heart disease criteria.
58. suffered from symptoms of a heart murmur in the last 6 months.
59. not given the immunization for exposure to hepatitis B, wait 21 days after immunization.
60. received a smallpox vaccination, you are asked to wait 8 weeks (56 days).
61. If, from January 1, 1980 through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more in the United Kingdom.
62. If, from January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any country in the United Kingdom.
63. were born in or lived in Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Niger, & Nigeria since 1977, you are not eligible.
64. traveled in an area where Malaria is found, you're asked to wait 12 months.
65. spent a long period of time in countries where "mad cow disease" is found, you are not eligible.
66. the mumps, then you must wait until three weeks from the day of exposure.
67. the chicken pox, then you must wait until three weeks from the day of exposure.
68. Addison's Disease, you should not give blood.
69. Adrenal Disorder, you should not give blood.
70. a sinus infection, you should not give blood.
71. on steroids, you should not give blood.
72. on immunosuppressive drugs, you should not give blood.
73. Rheumatoid Arthritis, you should not give blood.
74. Lupus, you should not give blood.
75. hare a hemophilia, you can't give blood.
76. taken Tegison for psoriasis, you can't give blood.
77. received any type of organ transplant from another person, you can't give blood for 12 months.
78. male and have had sex with another male, you can't donate blood.
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2012.05.30 12:34:00 -
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Trollin wrote:i dont think a ship is in order, and there are lots of people who cant participate, plus it would be an onerous task to "vet" a bunch of "evidence", this game is full of scammers and psychos. I cant imagine people will play fair when it comes to a collectable ship maybe a decal that can be applied to ships, but def not a ship. You can't donate blood if... 1. had a positive antibody test for HIV (AIDS virus). 2. not feeling well for any reason. 3. had cancer. [---] 76. taken Tegison for psoriasis, you can't give blood. 77. received any type of organ transplant from another person, you can't give blood for 12 months. 78. male and have had sex with another male, you can't donate blood.
you can donate with about all non-serious health issues, but you have to make sure you check the "my blood is not qualified for human transfusion checkbox, at least in germany
the fact that you checked that checkbox is only visible to you and in the blood bank, at a point where your name is no longer visible for the handler
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Rhivre
TarNec
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:38:00 -
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Very interesting initiative. |
c4 t
Push Pharmaceuticals
Push Interstellar Network
44
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:41:00 -
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This would be super cool. The only thing I have to add other than my support would be to suggest CCP have a window of 8-9 weeks. I believe that is the cooldown required between donations. Some of us may be on cooldown! |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:46:00 -
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Trollin wrote:i dont think a ship is in order, and there are lots of people who cant participate, plus it would be an onerous task to "vet" a bunch of "evidence", this game is full of scammers and psychos. I cant imagine people will play fair when it comes to a collectable ship maybe a decal that can be applied to ships, but def not a ship. You can't donate blood if... (Long list snipped. --MDD)
Yes, some people may try to defraud the system. There's not a whole lot that can be done for those folks. I think I'll have to depend partly on people's better nature.
Yes, vetting the evidence will take some effort, although I'm not proposing that the vetting be overly exhaustive.
The list of deferrals varies from country to country. Some are permanent, and some are temporary. Yes, some Eve players may never be able to donate blood. I could get snarky and superior, but I just don't have it in me. Eve is not fair. Life is not fair. But while we are fighting imagined monsters, real people are fighting real monsters. If I can encourage others to help in that real fight by dangling imaginary baubles in front of them, I will dangle them without hesitation.
MDD |
Gunnlaugur
Segmentum Solar
Intrepid Crossing
1
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:13:00 -
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If you want the items but cant give blood for many reasons, can you get a Rl friend to bleed for your fun? |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
305
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:15:00 -
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Gunnlaugur wrote:If you want the items but cant give blood for many reasons, can you get a Rl friend to bleed for your fun?
Why not?
You inspired the donation, it may as well have been from you. |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:17:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Gunnlaugur wrote:If you want the items but cant give blood for many reasons, can you get a Rl friend to bleed for your fun? Why not? You inspired the donation, it may as well have been from you.
Agreed, with the caveat that it has to be a friend who isn't already planning to donate. You have to convince them to become a new donor (or resume as a long lapsed one). The objective is to increase the number of donors.
MDD |
Velicitia
Open Designs
945
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:47:00 -
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so, if CCP were to do this ...
more Blood Raider ships? |
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