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Bodhidauruma
Gallente Triumvirate Maximus
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:43:00 -
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Currently, player alliance sovereignty (regional control) is tied to maintaining numerous player-owned structures across different solar systems to establish a territory as belonging to that alliance, and as shown on the game's star map. Since DUST 514 is set in the same galaxy as the core MMO, with the same planets, EVE players will have the option of contracting DUST (player) mercenaries to gain control of planets.
Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region."
He explained more about the interplay between EVE Online and DUST 514. Hilmar said, "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying."
http://www.massively.com/2009/08/18/ccp-games-reveals-new-eve-online-console-mmo-dust-514/#continued
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Zastrow J
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Posted - 2009.08.18 15:55:00 -
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sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks
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JonnyKay
Gallente Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:00:00 -
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I highly doubt that people will be able to fight for every habitable planet in eve =o that's alot of levels for CCP to design lol.
I thought it was based around the Empire factions and not 0.0 alliance stuff? (mind you i havent read into it much) _________________________________________________
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Staggerr
Gallente Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:02:00 -
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Instead of pos warfare we can now spin ships waiting for our team of DUST players to win a campaign.
Now if they are actually gonna introduce walking in stations during my life time I can make new friends while other people play the game for me.
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NimBetu Cayal
Amarr The Vorlon Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:13:00 -
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Thread already started Here
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Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Frools on 18/08/2009 16:19:59 As long as we can blow these x-box ***gots up by nuking their **** from orbit, I'm cool with it 
edit: Also it's gonna be pretty cool throwing piles and piles of jewgold at peasants to get them to fight for sov 
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Koro Sarum
Amarr Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Staggerr Instead of pos warfare we can now spin ships waiting for our team of DUST players to win a campaign.
Now if they are actually gonna introduce walking in stations during my life time I can make new friends while other people play the game for me.
yay for outsourcing work 
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Kurt Ambrose
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kurt Ambrose on 18/08/2009 16:29:47 So now i can shoot spaceships on my PC and kill people in DUST at the same time on my xbox 
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Cthul
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kurt Ambrose Edited by: Kurt Ambrose on 18/08/2009 16:29:47 So now i can shoot spaceships on my PC and kill people in DUST at the same time on my xbox 
I hope you are better at Dust than you are at Eve, or I don't think your plan is going to work out so well
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Kurt Ambrose
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cthul
Originally by: Kurt Ambrose Edited by: Kurt Ambrose on 18/08/2009 16:29:47 So now i can shoot spaceships on my PC and kill people in DUST at the same time on my xbox 
I hope you are better at Dust than you are at Eve, or I don't think your plan is going to work out so well
I will most likely be terrible at both so everythings good.
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Sappho Lesbos
Caldari Swarm Of Locusts
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:50:00 -
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As long as the space holding alliances can control the deployment of their mighty 13 year old xbox warriors it might be okay, but these 1337 halo lolcatz better not be able to affect sov politics in any serious way outside of the current mechanics.
I know the current sov system sucks and all, but I don't think "let the prepubescent boys figure it out" was what everyone's looking for. c/d
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MoonsOverMyHammy
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:56:00 -
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Sry CCP this is going to crash and burn
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/08/2009 17:09:37
Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks
Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this... 
edit: didn't realize the link someone gave to me was in COAD and not in general discussion, my COAD ban!!!!
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Zastrow J
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/08/2009 17:09:37
Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks
Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this... 
edit: didn't realize the link someone gave to me was in COAD and not in general discussion, my COAD ban!!!!
Hello. Goonfleet comes from the forum community somethingawful.com, a community with a very large membership. As with any MMO, there will assuredly be a Goonsquad formed from this community. Do you see where this is going
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IceGoon
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: IceGoon on 18/08/2009 17:16:47
Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/08/2009 17:09:37
Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks
Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this... 
edit: didn't realize the link someone gave to me was in COAD and not in general discussion, my COAD ban!!!!
Your an idiot if you think another level of logistics+cost will make it easier for alliance to take and hold space.
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MoonsOverMyHammy
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: MoonsOverMyHammy Sry CCP this is going to crash and burn
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Lickity Split
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:20:00 -
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i assume it will only come out on one or the other of the ps or xbox. either way i think alot of eve players will either quit because the game they are playing is now controled by others outside of eve. or it will force people who already spend many hours a day maintaining a large alliance to play another game to maintain the same thing that they where doing before.
either way it will be alot of quiting ,or alot of divorces, or abandon kids sitting in their yard waiting on their father to come play catch with them since he is now spending all day at his comp to maintain his alliance, or finally alot more kids failing out of school due to addiction to mmo and now a fps.
other than thoses things, great idea ccp.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zastrow J
Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/08/2009 17:09:37
Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks
Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this... 
edit: didn't realize the link someone gave to me was in COAD and not in general discussion, my COAD ban!!!!
Hello. Goonfleet comes from the forum community somethingawful.com, a community with a very large membership. As with any MMO, there will assuredly be a Goonsquad formed from this community. Do you see where this is going
Calm down, I'm sure meta gamming will some how be implemented.
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Calm down, I'm sure meta gaming will some how be implemented.
Lets hope friendly fire is on so you can stab traitors in the face.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:39:00 -
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what a dreadful idea
also, I'm fully expecting this dust thing to fail miserably, much like everything else CCP has attempted (apart from eve) ----------
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Dregek
Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Dregek on 18/08/2009 17:55:16
Originally by: JonnyKay I highly doubt that people will be able to fight for every habitable planet in eve =o that's alot of levels for CCP to design lol.
I thought it was based around the Empire factions and not 0.0 alliance stuff? (mind you i havent read into it much)
i think its gonna be more likely that we will see a capital planet per system with each of these being randomly generated using a set of base textures an building based on the history of the regional pirates.
fake edit: wonder if the minnie planets will look like their ships and be full of rust, duck tape and chewing gum
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YesI'mWatching
Minmatar Infinite Horizons Unlimited Horizons
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:02:00 -
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I don't see how it can fail really. I think CCP should invest in a card game and mebe sov can then be controlled by playing Top Trumps, oh wait....
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Lucias Trask
Gallente The White Aces
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:08:00 -
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I hope they implement Titans able to DDD planets.
Then the DustBunnies will be able to know whats it like to eat Doomsday.
I cannot see PL and Goons not just running around DDDing planets during their bored time when they know DustBunnies are fighting down there.
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ChowMung
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: ChowMung on 18/08/2009 18:27:29 Ugh. No I don't want to buy a ****ing console. If CCP seriously ties sov to this in any shape or form, they're ******ed.
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Atropos Kahn
Caldari Solarflare Heavy Industries Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:28:00 -
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YAY!... High Sec Corps and Alliances will be able to affect SOV in 0.0 without ever leaving the trade hubs...
CHIRRBA sends 1000 Pre-teens to conquer NOL-M9 from Veldnaught central... somewhere from the depths of some dead end High-Sec system... "I felt a great disturbance in the Force... as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
I love this!
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:30:00 -
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Staggerr
Gallente Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Marlona Sky Calm down, I'm sure meta gaming will some how be implemented.
Lets hope friendly fire is on so you can stab traitors in the face.
Lets hope that instead of a 'spy' character, there will not be a global announcement, as in X killed X.
Im sure you can see where this is going.
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Larkonis TrassIer
Minmatar Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:52:00 -
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Seeing as noone has any idea how this will be implemented stop doomsaying. I for one think it's pretty damn awesome and has the potential to be something completely different to anything seen in gaming so far. Very nice and very ambitious CCP. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator |

Xiaodown
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: IceGoon
Your an idiot if you think another level of logistics+cost will make it easier for alliance to take and hold space.
Aside from meaning to say "you're", your point is completely valid. I think. If the argument is whether or not this will make it easier to take space, the alliances who already own space (and more specifically, R64's), will be able to fund these campaigns much easier than any band of merry pretenders.
Which, I mean, is fine. Except, I don't want to get into a scenario where someone can just dump 500 billion onto Dust 514 and take over a region where the defenders can't do anything about it.
Also, boy is this going to be an Isk sink.
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Dramaticus
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:54:00 -
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This could completely wipe out the goons existence on EVE. Think about it. The goons generally suck at twitch based combat games and EVE is the only MMO where they were able to get a foothold into actually doing something, and even this came at the discretion of someone completely out of their alliance. So if I bring all my buddies on XBL to play this game and we completely destroy all the worthless goons every time they step foot onto our battlefield they will never get high sovereignty in Delve. This could be awesome. I hope the gameplay is on par with other shooters that are prepped to launch in the coming months so this actually matters.
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