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Too Stoned Minmatar Altless Green Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:57:00 - [31] Originally by: Admiral Frools Edited by: Admiral Frools on 18/08/2009 16:19:59 As long as we can blow these x-box *gots up by nuking their ** from orbit, I'm cool with it edit: Also it's gonna be pretty cool throwing piles and piles of jewgold at peasants to get them to fight for sov Now that sounds like a blast!!
Dramaticus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:59:00 - [32] Originally by: Dramaticus This could completely wipe out the goons existence on EVE. Think about it. The goons generally suck at twitch based combat games and EVE is the only MMO where they were able to get a foothold into actually doing something, and even this came at the discretion of someone completely out of their alliance. So if I bring all my buddies on XBL to play this game and we completely destroy all the worthless goons every time they step foot onto our battlefield they will never get high sovereignty in Delve. This could be awesome. I hope the gameplay is on par with other shooters that are prepped to launch in the coming months so this actually matters. no one ever reads the bottom of the page Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan
Trent Nichols Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:09:00 - [33] Dust looks and sounds fantastic, right up to the point he says an FPS will determine SOV in EVE. I know the kind of people who play console FPS games and I have no desire to interact with them in any way, much less in Eve. This great looking game sounds like it will be the worst thing CCP has done to Eve since I started playing 3 years ago. To CCP: Planetary control and planet based sov is what many players want but not like this! Eve players and only Eve players should determine what territory they control. Colonies and Capitals
Chack'Nul Gallente Broski Enterprises	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:10:00 - [34] http://rockstarchan.com/bro/src/125060740437.jpg
Beverly Sparks Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:16:00 - [35] This will either be revolutionary and awesome, or fail miserably. Either way, I think it is pretty ballsie on CCP's part to even try it.... I hope it works out for them. Ultimately though, I think this game/concept needs to be fully integrated into EvE or it will fail. And get it away from the gaming console. Integrate something sort of like MechWarrior into EvE for Ground combat. Utilize the Bridging/Cyno concept to position your ground forces onto planets. Make a module in space that you could put up to block inserting troops. Killing this would alert the enemy of your intentions, and then in an hour or so, it would drop and the ground battle could begin. So then you could possibly get a Ship-Ship fight or ground combat. Then make it realistic, with bombardment being possible, as well as anti-ship fire from the planets surface. Would be cool to see a parallel battle taking place. I could see something like that adding to the overall experience. Although I hate the idea of it being a Console FPS.
maddmaxx III Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:21:00 - [36] Edited by: maddmaxx III on 18/08/2009 19:25:01 Edited by: maddmaxx III on 18/08/2009 19:24:46 Sounds like a cool idea, but I really cant see ccp putting sov control in the hands of prepubescent halo players. Have to see how it pans out though, not enough details available yet to jump to any conclusions.
Cippalippus Primus Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:27:00 - [37] Dust 514? Time to replay the 513 prequels -clp
Romale Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:34:00 - [38] hey ccp, please note something: console mmo's dont do well because they charge full retail price for the game AND a monthly sub, be smart price the initial purchase for like 20 bux or 30 bux or something
FOl2TY8 Gallente Revolutionary United Front Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:36:00 - [39] Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 18/08/2009 19:36:34 nvm ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve
marxist revolutionary Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer Seeing as noone has any idea how this will be implemented stop doomsaying. I for one think it's pretty damn awesome and has the potential to be something completely different to anything seen in gaming so far. Very nice and very ambitious CCP. it would be nice if it wasn't console only hope you can play it on the PC too
Goberth Ludwig Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:37:00 - [41] delve war 3 is gonna be like starship troppers I wanna be johnny rico :E - Gob
Goberth Ludwig Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:38:00 - [42] omfg cippa wer the hell did ur sig go? :( - Gob
Cippalippus Primus Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:40:00 - [43] Uhm, it's still there. Maybe your ISP is having problems, Gob. -clp
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig delve war 3 is gonna be like starship troppers I wanna be johnny rico :E - Gob Johnny Rico wasn't a *gy *, hth
Cyriel Longinus Caldari XERCORE Cult of War	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:53:00 - [45] Edited by: Cyriel Longinus on 18/08/2009 19:53:58 I don't know of any awesome console FPS that can stand toe to toe with a PC based FPS. Everyone here knows that EVE Online has issues, bugs and discovery of exploits that were not thought of during game design. Thankfully there are patches to remedy most problems. So now we are going take all that and get it right on a PS3? This idea would take off on a PC. The Market is already established on a PC. Why limit yourself and increase the chances of fail.
Pringlescan Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:53:00 - [46] Posting to say that dust 514 has got to be some quote from the amarr scriptures, you heard it here first.
ElrondMD Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.08.18 20:09:00 - [47] I plan on mining rocks with a tennis racket on Wii.
SK Rooster Gallente No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 20:09:00 - [48] Originally by: Marlona Sky Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this...
SK Rooster Gallente No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 20:16:00 - [49] Originally by: Dramaticus Originally by: Dramaticus This could completely wipe out the goons existence on EVE. Think about it. The goons generally suck at twitch based combat games and EVE is the only MMO where they were able to get a foothold into actually doing something, and even this came at the discretion of someone completely out of their alliance. So if I bring all my buddies on XBL to play this game and we completely destroy all the worthless goons every time they step foot onto our battlefield they will never get high sovereignty in Delve. This could be awesome. I hope the gameplay is on par with other shooters that are prepped to launch in the coming months so this actually matters. no one ever reads the bottom of the page he wanted his stupid troll to be read so bad that he posted the exact same thing twice :my forum rep:
Suboran Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 20:29:00 - [50] Originally by: ElrondMD I plan on mining rocks with a tennis racket on Wii. or mindlessly swining that pickaxe for 4 hours
Aalana Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.18 20:59:00 - [51] Four things: 1. The reason that CCP is doing this is because they are greedy money grubbing ****. Another game which you HAVE to play to be successful at EVE is just another hand going in my wallet to grab my $$$$. 2. This will NOT make a pinch of difference for controlling R64 moons. Big rich alliances will have a significant advantage in maintaining/paying for sov control. 3. I would only approve of this idea if it was for the control of STATIONS ONLY. That would be cool. (Eg. Conquest map of mothership in UT 2004). 4. If this game is not playable on a PC then CCP can go die in a gigantic fire.
Jimmy Duce Gallente Shards of Apathy	Posted - 2009.08.18 21:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Zastrow J Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/08/2009 17:09:37 Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this... edit: didn't realize the link someone gave to me was in COAD and not in general discussion, my COAD ban!!!! Hello. Goonfleet comes from the forum community somethingawful.com, a community with a very large membership. As with any MMO, there will assuredly be a Goonsquad formed from this community. Do you see where this is going You intend to bite the Dust?
SnowUponPetal Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.08.18 21:25:00 - [53] I for one welcome our new 14-year-old FPS overlords. This is a big change, but it doesn't take my ships or my alliance mates away, and those are the important things. So now I'll need to send ISK to real-world players on the planets instead of dumping it into tower spam to hold sov? Sounds like an improvement to me.
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.08.18 21:36:00 - [54] Originally by: ElrondMD I plan on mining rocks with a tennis racket on Wii. Awesome. ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.08.18 21:43:00 - [55] Hey folks, why not being a bit more constructive and feed CCP with some ideas how you want (or want not) this DUST 514 interact with Eve? Lots of people say that they don't want Dust being able to completely determine the sov? But what else would they like to see? That Dust is completely independent from Eve? That it only partly counts towards sov and if so, how? That you need to support 'your' dust team with supplies and strategical commands?
Gunship Amarr Destructive Influence	Posted - 2009.08.18 21:49:00 - [56] if it stops the pos warfare stuff or at least limit it, its a winner. I hope the make a PC version as well, I'm useless with a joypad..
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:00:00 - [57] If what happens in Dust directly effects or impacts Sov issues in 0.0 in any situation other than one where the Sov owning entity agrees to it, it would be by FAR the most ****ed thing CCP could of done to this game. KIA EVE Home KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"** KIA are Currently recruiting active PvP minded players. Contact SentryRaven
Gaius Duilius Amarr The Pheonix Group Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:10:00 - [58] 1: I understand that releasing Dust on consuls will allow CCP to expand their player base but I think they also need to release it on for the PC or there will be a lot of Eve players who won't be interested in playing it. 2: For those of us already paying $15 a month to play Eve the idea of paying another monthly fee to play Dust is unappealing. I hope there will be some sort of joint account option where you can get a dust account with your Eve api for a reduced monthly fee (or better yet no additional fee ) 3: While what happens in Dust needs to be important enough that players are interested in it, events in Eve need to remain the focus. In other words changes in system sovereignty needs to ultimately be determined by the outcomes of fleet battle in Eve. An alliance should have to gain military superiority in space before they can launch a planetary assault to grab system sovereignty. The bottom line is that the emphasis has to stay on Eve and Dust should just be an interesting and moderately important side thing. Control over how the game world progresses needs to continue to rest first and foremost with the capsuliers in Eve not the infantry in Dust.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:23:00 - [59] Edited by: General Windypops on 18/08/2009 22:25:09 Originally by: Hilmar You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO Then Eddz says... Originally by: KIAEddZ If what happens in Dust directly effects or impacts Sov issues in 0.0 in any situation other than one where the Sov owning entity agrees to it, it would be by FAR the most ******ed thing CCP could of done to this game. This is madness - Eddz is suddenly getting angry about things involving imaginary contracts...
Ohne Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:29:00 - [60] I dont see why people are going all hurf blurf on this. I cant be worse than current state of sov mechanics tbh....

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