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Superslam
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.19 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zastrow J
Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 18/08/2009 17:09:37
Originally by: Zastrow J sweet I needed something else to rage about in iceland in 2 weeks
Tears from sov holders?... who could have predicted this... 
edit: didn't realize the link someone gave to me was in COAD and not in general discussion, my COAD ban!!!!
Hello. Goonfleet comes from the forum community somethingawful.com, a community with a very large membership. As with any MMO, there will assuredly be a Goonsquad formed from this community. Do you see where this is going
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Kurth Ren
Gallente Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.19 05:26:00 -
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Reposting this in every dust thread I see.
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Cyzlak
Gallente Karkand Kampa SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 05:38:00 -
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Why?
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Mr Peanut420
Caldari Lyonesse. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 06:28:00 -
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I knew there'd be something extreme to get BoB their space back, but enlisting console mouth breathers? For shame!
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Fiberton
Gallente StarFleet Enterprises Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.19 06:37:00 -
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FPS on Pc`s are full of cheaters. Putting it on a console will stop alot of cheating that could happen with people seeing through walls etc. Although I hate consoles. I want a mouse to play an fps. That ps3 pad crap is not for me. I have a ps3 here but it does not get played much. It was a smart move to put it on the console. Now should it ever been created ? I am not sure. This does not SOUND good. Although we are ignorant of how it will create issues in our game. I have played for over 5 years and this is the first change that has alarmed me. Over the years the changes have been great too not so great, but we are all here. We shall see what happens. Take it easy.
"I seek Understanding in a world of 1`s & 0`s. I seek oneness in a world of chaos." |

Mecinia Lua
Minmatar Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.08.19 06:57:00 -
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Wow well we all know Sov mechanics are horribly broken but I gotta say this is never the solution I ever contemplated.
Have to wonder can we affect the combat, I mean will we be allowed to do planetary bombardment with our Dreadnoughts?
Do the troops have to travel on a troop transport through space? If they have to physically travel from world to world aboard a ship say a transport, industrial, freighter etc then I can see the possibility it may well be hard to take a system.
Specialized Cargobays is something that's coming about first iteration Thursday in Apoc 1.5. Will there be special cargo bays to hold ground troops, ground equipment etc. I see it becoming much harder to travel around in these ships if they do. That neutral transport coming through the gate might no longer be ignored even by NRDS alliances.
What sort of contracts will we have. I remember the old Mechwarrior games, where you negotiated pay up front, salvage rights, pay upon completion and bonus pay.
 Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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sinsation
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 07:22:00 -
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Well, I see this killing 0.0
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BiaXia
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.19 07:24:00 -
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So uh, what happens to the alliances based in countries that don't have access to Xbox live?
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Mecinia Lua
Minmatar Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: BiaXia So uh, what happens to the alliances based in countries that don't have access to Xbox live?
Good Question. I wouldn't buy one even though I could...
 Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: BiaXia So uh, what happens to the alliances based in countries that don't have access to Xbox live?
Just for note, Iceland is essentially one of these countries, with no acceptance of Icelandic Credit Cards, have to do it via vouchers which are very expensive there.
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:15:00 -
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I will own you all, and teabag. 
YouWhat mercs here I come. -------
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Piral
Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:21:00 -
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So wait... you mean to tell me.... that i have been playing and paying for eve online x5 times each month for many many years... just to have you implement some F***ed up attempt by you (CCP) to gain a larger audience.. that makes you more $$.. with a 'seperate 'MMO' that is console based 'only'.. that effects my game 'eve online' and my alliance' Sov.. in 'my' game??? W T F are you really smoking up there in Iceland, maybe the air is thin up there or something, or maybe your just a bunch of pot heads.
Although we havent heard much about 'what' kind of 'new' implementations will occur, i really cannot see how 'other than for the RP newbs' this has any positive effect on us 'eve players' we better have like 99% control over our Sov, and it also better not be exploitable, no doubt it F***ing will be though.
How can you beleive that another MMO that is seperate to the core MMO will even give a **** about the eve community or understand the game. They wont and you know why? Because anybody who plays FPS games are just interested in shooting ****, not politics. If this ends in a ragin blazing disaster, well this is one way to get me to really quit, which i maybe kind of thankful for in ways, as your game 'currently' has me completely hucked.
I love EvE Online.. Please dont ruin it with this BullSh**
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Piral So wait... you mean to tell me.... that i have been playing and paying for eve online x5 times each month for many many years... just to have you implement some F***ed up attempt by you (CCP) to gain a larger audience.. that makes you more $$.. with a 'seperate 'MMO' that is console based 'only'.. that effects my game 'eve online' and my alliance' Sov.. in 'my' game??? W T F are you really smoking up there in Iceland, maybe the air is thin up there or something, or maybe your just a bunch of pot heads.
Although we havent heard much about 'what' kind of 'new' implementations will occur, i really cannot see how 'other than for the RP newbs' this has any positive effect on us 'eve players' we better have like 99% control over our Sov, and it also better not be exploitable, no doubt it F***ing will be though.
How can you beleive that another MMO that is seperate to the core MMO will even give a **** about the eve community or understand the game. They wont and you know why? Because anybody who plays FPS games are just interested in shooting ****, not politics. If this ends in a ragin blazing disaster, well this is one way to get me to really quit, which i maybe kind of thankful for in ways, as your game 'currently' has me completely hucked.
I love EvE Online.. Please dont ruin it with this BullSh**

sa'll good bro you can hire me
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.08.19 10:10:00 -
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there must be more to this crazy idea than they are letting on
otherwise eve online will be reduced to
1) farm moon gold 2) sell moon gold 3) pay fat teenagers to play xbox for you 4) take sov
i mean... they can't actually be serious, can they?
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Cmndr Griff
Amarr Capitalistic Tendencies Red Dwarf Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 10:16:00 -
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Why all the lame PC user elitism? You're sat at home playing an internet spaceship game, I see little difference between you and console gamers. Also the demographic for PS3 and the 360 is 17-27. Of course you get annoying kids but you get that in every game, it's not exclusive to games like Halo.
As for FPS being poor on consoles, it's your fault you have sausage fingers and the dexterity of a dead cat not the controllers.
Finally Microsoft will release hardware updates instead of a new console, ensuring it will be sticking around. Sony said they wont be releasing another console after PS3, again cementing the safety of DUST 514 on consoles.
I have high hopes for DUST, if only for the fact that I can shoot all these internet lamos who believe that having a PC makes them better than anyone else. I can also hopefully shoot those who have already slandered the idea before any details have been released. Talk about jumping the gun.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.19 10:25:00 -
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I dunno, it says "feeds into Eve's sovereignty system" rather then "determine Eve's sovereignty system". If under the new system, you could get dust players to lower sov level by one and say disabling a cynojammed system for a short time, that'd be pretty cool. Having Dust alone determine sov levels would be pretty ballsack though I agree :(
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Eliax
Gallente Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 10:47:00 -
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Eve online is unique in the mmo world, imo thats why it is a succes.
Rather would have seen CCP putting their team/money to work on Eve online instead of wasting their time on just another fps game that you are going to throw away after you get bored of it.
Personally i'm not going to buy it, because it's a console fps game, hate the controls.
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 19/08/2009 11:05:51 Oh god, is this ambulation mk2 or what? 
Imho they should create a fps based on the EVE Universe and then see where it evolves and how it could fit into the actual space mmorpg --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Captain N8Hellyea
Caldari Hakata Group Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:05:00 -
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1.CCP needs more money 2.CCP wants to be the pioneers of something again 3.If we wanted a FPS, we'd go play a FPS 4.I hope we can destroy and make the console players life hell from the pc side 5. I hope it takes 10 more years for this to happen 6. our subsciption better allow us to get the game and play at no extra cost so we can buy it and make Jr. throw the game away after repeated whippings
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GunnerySergeant Blair
Caldari Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: GunnerySergeant Blair on 19/08/2009 11:08:32 When a Titan DDDs in a low planetorbit, does it instantly kill all Dust players currently on the planet then?
Are Phoenixes able to launch orbital strikes?
Questions over questions
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Chandilas
Caldari Legionari Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Chandilas on 19/08/2009 11:10:53 they should make this dust xxx work only for factional war systems maybe in a bf2 way with some vehicles, artillery from starships and so on...
personally i think that the most ccp ties a mmorpg with a fps/tactical, the most they risk in terms of great success or tremendous fail.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 19/08/2009 10:45:13 I dunno, it says "feeds into Eve's sovereignty system" rather then "determine Eve's sovereignty system". If under the new system, you could get dust players to lower sov level by one and say disabling a cynojammed system for a short time, that'd be pretty cool. Having Dust alone determine sov levels would be pretty ballsack though I agree :(
bingo
I predict there will be an interesting link between the two games and isolated and limited effects will spread from one to the other.... but for the most part they will remain exactly that, two separate games.
For anyone crying and moaning that it might go strictly to console, news flash: the world will along with out you. I do not own a ps3 or an xbox 360, but i plan on getting one eventually. MOST gamers out there (if you add them all up) are console gamers, the market is skewed in their direction.
It's not a bad move on their part, just means a bit of butt hurt from their current customers. They aren't obligated to bring every future invention of their company to the PC platform and i think it may go a long way to drawing some of that console market into Eve proper (ultimately making eve healthier).
I agree fps are better on PC, i agree they should open this to both but get over yourselves, CCP will make whatever decision is smarter for the business (and there are many many aspects to examine).
Trust they will make the game better and if you can't be arsed to join the rest of the planet in owning a console (or if you are unfortunate enough to live someplace that keeps you from playing) too bad, the real world is tough bananas. 
I trust it will be implemented with some degree of competency. I've had 5 excellent years of Eve and i'm confident i'll see 5 more.
Wait, i mean they have never done anything right in all of history and eve is already dying and this will be the final nail!  ---------- Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother*****r |

Gryana
Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:18:00 -
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Quite frankly if this is anything to do with alliances i'd be surprised. It's more likely to be faction wars, NPC based changes. At least thats how i'm reading it. I think that people in here (because of the nature of this forum) assume that every change in Eve is a change in 0.0. But sov is based in faction wars too.
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Pixel SonursCreen
Gallente Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:30:00 -
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When a Titan DDDs in a low planetorbit, does it instantly kill all Dust players currently on the planet then?
Ok, maybe it would be nice to hire DUST 514 players to lower a sov level in some key system... Though in general it seems a isk-sink?  will players in eve online be farming isk to be able to hire FPS players on a different game I.O.W. would DUST 514 players be able to hire EVE online players for the same isk to provide them services like transports?
if its one way traffic isk wise i would not be surprised many eve online players will consider to do the job DUST 514 players COULD do themselves in a alternative way like a classic pos siege or something.
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Josh Silver
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Josh Silver on 19/08/2009 11:42:33 Edited by: Josh Silver on 19/08/2009 11:41:40
Originally by: MoonsOverMyHammy Sry CCP this is going to crash and burn
Not unlike a zeppelin made out of lead, I might add.
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Iron Jaw
Caldari Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Iron Jaw on 19/08/2009 11:41:03 wait what?
Somone will be taking Sov for me? isnt taking sov my job? .... they tirrrkk errrr JERRRBBSS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brj2UkUPjCI
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Pixel SonursCreen
will players in eve online be farming isk to be able to hire FPS players on a different game I.O.W. would DUST 514 players be able to hire EVE online players for the same isk to provide them services like transports?
Or haul over vehicles that'll spawn near their starting position? See how many implants and boosters it takes to make a nanogrunt, etc.
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Kamel
Caldari Evolution
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Posted - 2009.08.19 12:21:00 -
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I realy hope this nether finish to make it, imo will ruin the game, sad CCP dont invest the 100% of their resources to improve the game like it is Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Rhamnousia
Caldari Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.19 12:22:00 -
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a few things please... for the devs
- what the flip does 514 stand for? - console sucks the big ones, when it comes to FPS. - i hope to god you know what you're doing. ---------------------- What happens in Pelennor stays in Pelennor.
Forever Pelennor |

Lucias Trask
Gallente The White Aces
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Posted - 2009.08.19 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes As someone that has been waiting for another MMOFPS to come out (That was a real MMOFPS like planetside) This could potentially be the best thing ever. I'm not sure how this is gunna' work, but the problem that killed planetside was the gigantic lag. If CCP can make a decently balanced MMOFPS that is reasonably priced and lag free, they will be complete superstars and I would leave EvE for it XD.
Three things i see wrong with this.
CCP - balanced - lag free
You see none of these things should ever be used in the same paragraph, let alone the same sentance. [PANIC] |
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