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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.31 11:40:00 -
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This thread still generating tears? 
Like it has been said many times, console only is the best way. PC = hackers
But please keep the tears rolling in though, they taste the best.
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Kiko Tojima
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Posted - 2009.12.31 16:52:00 -
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This is a business decision of a RL company.
You may agree with it or not.
IMHO it's out of scope for the CSM.
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Neu Bastian
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.31 21:22:00 -
[273]
 Originally by: FU22
Won't be buying dust if it isn't on PC.
fine, make it a console game, get the new market, but make a PC version too.
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Neu Bastian
Valklear Guard - CEO
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Ormathon Iceshadows
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Posted - 2009.12.31 23:08:00 -
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I love this huge drama about dust.
Do you people think alot according to the diffrences in console and PC games?
Hacking a PC game is easy, using programs to do everything for you is easy.
Hacking a Console game, now that is hard and you cant write programs to help you.
And making the game on multiplatforms will force them to make 2 diffrent servers. 1 for console, 1 for PC.
As people have said, yes you can hook up a mouse and keyboard to a xbox or ps3 but the performance is not close to hooking the same equipment up to a PC.
Making it console only is a excellent starting point. And people that dont want to pay monthly subscriptions for a game that has a insane learning curve dont have to worry. They can just toss in a few coins from now and then to buy new stuff to kill and blow sh*t up with.
But these are just my thoughts 
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The Gr4veDigger
Rogue Clones
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Posted - 2010.01.03 21:03:00 -
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I want to break some heads too!
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Fat Rillos
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Posted - 2010.01.06 02:27:00 -
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I sold my 360 to buy parts for my PC. Was an avid console gamer. But alas FPS SUCK on console.(how many good fps are on consoles?)
Didn't the fps start on PC?
Will it not be harder to develop an expanding role playing game on a limited console machine? When do they run out of resources and have to wait for the next gen console to come out?
360 is nearing the end of its life as is.
Too many bad console ports have come direct to PC as of late. and now they are losing dedicated server support as well.(modern warfare 2)
Where you were able to have massive servers with 40 to 60 people shooting it out, the console has dumbed down our gaming experience to a dismal 4v4 because of matchmaking and hosting on less than able console machines. Will this be true for Dust as well?
Hate to say it but the underwhelming console is officially strangling the PC to death. The console gaming pie is too big for ccp to not get into the action.(it's OK we all like money) But it's sad to see them slap the people who put them in this position in the first place.
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Rakivic
Pilots of Damnation
death from above..
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Posted - 2010.01.06 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rakivic on 06/01/2010 09:47:08
Edited by: Rakivic on 06/01/2010 09:45:31
I agree console exclusivity for DUST makes no scene. It can be on console but it also need's to be on PC. Specially when it is going to be tied directly into Eve sov mechanics.
I think it will just screw up the entire game (Eve), more specifically for the smaller alliance where not many people have consoles. The way I see things it will just tighten the mega alliance's grip on 0.0 space.
Which defeats the purpose of dominion as it was designed to make 0.0 more assessable.
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Ogogov
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Posted - 2010.01.06 14:49:00 -
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I'd love to see a PC port eventually, but I understand how limiting developing for consoles is (just look at Mass Effect...)
I'd like CCP to consider creating a PC client, perhaps some time after the initial release. Steal some of those TF2 players ;)
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The Sleeper1A
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Posted - 2010.01.09 20:01:00 -
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The concept of Dust is a good one. I think it will have a lot of playability.
CCP is making a critical blunder with consoles only. Right off the bat there is 300,000+ people that have shown they like this IP by paying money to entertain themselves with it. Dust will not only provide those with Sov a facet of game play but it will provide everyone and anyone that has any desire to strike back at people that have sov or anyone that wants to try something a little different.
Dust is a slap in the face or to use a FPS term, Dust is CCP hf "tea bagging" there loyal customers. So you say CCP hf is doing it for finical concerns my response is that those finical concerns are being financed by MY money. If they wanted a new revenue stream thatĘs fine but connecting it to the product that I am PAYING for makes it a chief concern for me.
It does not matter if has a minor or major effect on Eve the fact that that I have been excluded makes me want to stop my revenue stream on my 3 accounts till if and when they change their mind.
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Uronksur Suth
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Posted - 2010.01.09 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
This thread still generating tears?
Like it has been said many times, console only is the best way. PC = hackers
But please keep the tears rolling in though, they taste the best.
^^This
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Binanty
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Posted - 2010.01.10 00:23:00 -
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:13:00 -
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1 its easier to make games for
2 they want diffrent players
3 pc players suck at fps's when they can point and click so lulz
4 eve players DO NOT need console players to do anything, it just makes things easier. its like learning skills, dont need them but makes things faster.
5. you cant hav consoles mixed to PC in the same game, PC players only have to point and click.
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Lord Arshavir
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.10 13:51:00 -
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Not supported. Personally, I love playing FPS with the classic keyboard + mouse combo, I find console controllers tolerable, but sluggish.
However.
I would rather play a multiplayer FPS on a console these days, for the same reason I stick to single player in PC RTS games, and mainly play MMO games; cheaters. Cheating is certainly possible on consoles, but it's FAR more difficult, and if Im going to enter into a contest of skill, the playing field better be bloody well even.
I can play four or five awesome rounds in a row on PC, and then one turd logs into the server and ruins everyone's evening with a wallhack, an aimbot or some other form of asshattery.
I'd rather deal with a slightly sluggish controller.
As a final note, cost isnt an issue these days for consoles; you can buy a secondhand 360 premium for 100 quid, and xbox live is dirt cheap if you buy a 12 month sub. The new models of both the 360 and PS3 are actually pretty reliable, so if you do your research and buy the latest versions they'll last a good few years.
HTFU and buy a secondhand 360.
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Solar Storm
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 19:44:00 -
[284]
/signed
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Andreus LeHane
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:05:00 -
[285]
Supporting this.
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Garci4
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Posted - 2010.01.11 15:30:00 -
[286]
Dust 514 for pc please!!! :_
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Dek Kato
Amarr
Hedion University Alumni Corporation
Raikiri Assasins
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Posted - 2010.01.13 19:26:00 -
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The reason for not allowing a PC version is simple; no cannabalization of their market share. MMO players are relatively stable in numbers. Ask most people, they at some point or another have played an MMO. True "new" players are rare. Therefor, to get players, you are required to get them from somewhere else (READ: another game). By releasing DUST on the PC, CCP would be forfeiting some amount of EVE membership to those who are more interested in an FPS style game. By only putting it on a different platform (consoles), they minimalize their risk of that.
Hence, overall it is more profitable to CCP to seperate the markets for DUST and EVE, and more profit means more developement and better games. Or at least more eye candy. Therefor I do not support this.
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The Sleeper1A
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Posted - 2010.01.13 21:45:00 -
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Thats very true Dek Kato but the other side of the coin is that EVE has created a loyal fan base before the game is relesed so it would be purchsed by a large number of people that can not get it on console.
By and large if your reading this you have made a choice of PC over console. CCP has made a choice of securing there new income stream over serviceing there customers. If they decide they dont want take my money for EVE and Dust then my money will do the talking as it walks over and gets Mass effect 2 or some other game.
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Ben Fenix
Caldari
Caldari Empire
Luminance Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.14 06:46:00 -
[289]
CCP decided to make DUST 514 for consoles.
Stop whining and start dealing with it.
Please CCP, close this thread! It's getting us nowhere.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:28:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Rakivic
Edited by: Rakivic on 06/01/2010 09:47:08
Edited by: Rakivic on 06/01/2010 09:45:31
I agree console exclusivity for DUST makes no scene. It can be on console but it also need's to be on PC. Specially when it is going to be tied directly into Eve sov mechanics.
I think it will just screw up the entire game (Eve), more specifically for the smaller alliance where not many people have consoles. The way I see things it will just tighten the mega alliance's grip on 0.0 space.
Which defeats the purpose of dominion as it was designed to make 0.0 more assessable.
Hellooooo dust merc clans!
Seriously, the amount of butt-hurt in this thread is just sickening WAH WAH CCP MADE A GAME SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO DONT PLAY EVE BUT ITS NOT PERFECT FOR PEOPLE WHO DO PLAY EVE AND I LOVE PLAYING EVE SO VERY VERY MUCH THAT I WILL QUIT PLAYING EVE BECAUSE I CAN'T PLAY ANOTHER GAME EVERYTHING CCP DO SHOULD BE FOR ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2010.01.14 15:23:00 -
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The OP pointed out CoD4.
I'd like to point out the fact there is no online FPS that does not or has not had some form of aiming assist hacks or the ability to do other things that don't constitute 'normal' gameplay.
If you're found using the keyboard/mouse kit for the 360, your live account gets banned.
Because of this, all players are essentially left playing with the exact same controls, which levels at least one playing field; control interface.
The hardware is exactly the same across the board, giving everyone exactly the same visual effects (some of which have tactical/gameplay related uses, such as flash-bangs causing a hazy view after the initial blinding effect - an effect commonly possible to disable, whether through the game's options or through modification of the game/console commands, on PC versions). Because the graphics and performance are the same for everyone, this levels another playing field; hardware.
My own 360 is broken, and my PC is ancient - I cannot afford to replace either, but I for one would rather this game stay on the 360 alone, because this would give the most stable, balanced playing field for all those playing it, while on the PS3 (where it was pointed out to me mouse+keyboard is possible for some games) or on the PC, control devices, the potential for hacking/cheating and for gameplay disparity between those with high performance vs low performance machines could cause issues.
I can't support the OP's suggestion.
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Paul Mooney
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:27:00 -
[292]
CCP DUST 514 to PC
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Vilgan i'Lakin
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Posted - 2010.01.27 03:47:00 -
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All the "don't leave the PC out!" comments are pretty silly. Every shooter in existence that can be played on both PC and console keeps those 2 realms separate. Not only is it hard (impossible?) to integrate Sony PS3 with PC etc, but it'd also be unfair. FPS on PC offers superior control and response time due to the way the mouse works. This isn't anti-console bias (I now prefer to play on a console) but it simply is. Dust cannot keep them separate as there is only one Eve universe. PC based groups would have an unfair advantage over console based groups.
Would it work if Eve had 100 servers ala WoW? Sure. But it isn't so it won't. I'm pretty amazed there are this many people who are posting when this is so obviously NEVER going to happen.
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.27 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
WAH WAH CCP MADE A GAME SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO DONT PLAY EVE BUT ITS NOT PERFECT FOR PEOPLE WHO DO PLAY EVE AND I LOVE PLAYING EVE SO VERY VERY MUCH THAT I WILL QUIT PLAYING EVE BECAUSE I CAN'T PLAY ANOTHER GAME EVERYTHING CCP DO SHOULD BE FOR ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
sums up this whole thread tbh
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Simon Tarem
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vilgan i'Lakin
All the "don't leave the PC out!" comments are pretty silly. Every shooter in existence that can be played on both PC and console keeps those 2 realms separate. Not only is it hard (impossible?) to integrate Sony PS3 with PC etc, but it'd also be unfair. FPS on PC offers superior control and response time due to the way the mouse works. This isn't anti-console bias (I now prefer to play on a console) but it simply is. Dust cannot keep them separate as there is only one Eve universe. PC based groups would have an unfair advantage over console based groups.
Would it work if Eve had 100 servers ala WoW? Sure. But it isn't so it won't. I'm pretty amazed there are this many people who are posting when this is so obviously NEVER going to happen.
I think they should make it PC only then.. Seeing as the community that made CCP who they are "EVE online" are in fact pc only...
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Uronksur Suth
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Tarem
I think they should make it PC only then..
ahh, but then how would they tap the console gamers market?
Originally by: Simon Tarem
Seeing as the community that made CCP who they are "EVE online" are in fact pc only...
What a fascinating and utterly baseless assumption. 
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Simon Tarem
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:15:00 -
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CCP DUST 514 FOR PC
/signed
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NOGC BLAST
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: NOGC BLAST on 27/01/2010 19:18:41
/Signed
I'm not going to debate or rage on.
I have no interest in getting in a console wars.
My opinion is clear and beyond debate with me.
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Simon Tarem
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Uronksur Suth
Originally by: Simon Tarem
I think they should make it PC only then..
ahh, but then how would they tap the console gamers market?
Originally by: Simon Tarem
Seeing as the community that made CCP who they are "EVE online" are in fact pc only...
What a fascinating and utterly baseless assumption.
First try googling CCP whats the first thing that comes up? Oh and did EVE not win some award recently what was that for again?
;)
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Uronksur Suth
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Tarem
First try googling CCP whats the first thing that comes up?
Community College of Philadelphia, then CCP games, then EVE Online. Your point?
Originally by: Simon Tarem
Oh and did EVE not win some award recently what was that for again?
;)
It was for best community and best game of 2009. How does this support your claim that players of EVE are exclusively PC-gamers?
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