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Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 14:59:00 - [1] listen im new here and i really am not impressed with the ammount of down time this game has , and i wanna know how we are gonna be compensated for this ? I paid for 1 year of game time , not 1 year minus how ever long it takes for your to drink coffee and eat cookies or whatever you are doing , a reply without stupid suggestions would be nice , i believe we all deserve a day xtra per day that you are down
Ragnar Urich	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:04:00 - [2] You actually paid for one year including an hours downtime each day. Did you read the EULA and any other small print you could find? No? If you are not happy, go and play World of Walkcraft.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:05:00 - [3] Originally by: Kinjanglou I paid for 1 year of game time , not 1 year minus how ever long it takes for your to drink coffee and eat cookies or whatever you are doing Actually, you didn't pay for 1 year, you paid for 360 days, that's 5 days less than a full year. Also, you paid for maintenance and upgrades (and downtimes are a part of that). _ Info about our corp \| Beginer's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper
Cyprus Black Caldari 4 wing Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:06:00 - [4] /facepalm What else can be said about this kind of stupidity.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:09:00 - [5] tried the nice way , now for the umm other ways
Valtiran Caldari Midnight Enterprises Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:14:00 - [6]
Cyprus Black Caldari 4 wing Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Kinjanglou tried the nice way , now for the umm other ways No you didn't. You're whining and crying about a rare form of downtime. Crying about EvEs downtime is a lot like the WoWbabies crying about Tuesdays downtime. It's pathetic and garners no sympathy. ___________________________________ Originally by: Kortne EVE is an amazing game, but other players ruin it.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:20:00 - [8] maybe i was not clear sir , i dont have a problem with daily down time , i mean this down time today , not any other , only today
Stela'Artois Capital Ventures Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:21:00 - [9] So...1 hour per day is too much? Right now just happens to be a pretty major patch going in, and it took what, not even a whole day to go in? If you are whining about the amount of money "wasted" during downtime, maybe you need to be more conservative with your money to begin with if it is in that short of a supply.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:24:00 - [10] this isnt about money , its about competence , if we are told the servers will be up , at 15 diff times throughout the day , that is simple incompetence and i just want the servers up due to the fact this is not the scheduled time , and its rediculas as im not the only one not happy about this , we all only want what we paid for
Stela'Artois Capital Ventures Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:28:00 - [11] Part of what we pay is for them to keep the game running, make needed changes, update things so they work better. CCP has been doing a good job of all the above for 6 years now. I had rather them push back DT 1000 times in a day than go ahead and open the servers while they are broken. Give them time to get it done, get it done right, and then you will have your fun. Trust me...they arent happy about downtime being extended either...it keeps them away from the bars.
Erialor Godsent Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Kinjanglou Edited by: Kinjanglou on 20/08/2009 15:28:05 this isnt about money , its about competence , if we are told the servers will be up , at 15 diff times throughout the day , that is simple incompetence and i just want the servers up due to the fact this is not the scheduled time , and its rediculas as im not the only one not happy about this , we all only want what we paid for I've nowhere seen CCP state the servers would be up at 12GMT, they expected so but clearly something went wrong and posted new expected uptimes... -- Get Your Crumplecorn signature here.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:30:00 - [13] thank you for a response that isnt just shut up noob and take it and like it , that only serves to make me very angry , thank you for your respectful tone and reply sir :)
Derivative Mind	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:35:00 - [14] The 12 hour DT would only be accepted if a expansion or a MAJOR patch would be applied. Which now, is not the case. So yes, I am curious how CCP will explain this and really don't give a ** about their excuses (pretty tired of them 'cuz almost every patch has been deloyed WASN'T completed in the stated time schedule.) I do agree daily 1hour DT's as stated in EULA (I don't care if it's less JUST don't make it longer as you tend to do)... sick of it. BTW Don't give me "play WoW" and ** - as long as I pay I expect a fair deal of respect along.
Teibor	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:37:00 - [15] Originally by: Erialor Godsent so but clearly something went wrong and posted new expected uptimes... your comment would stand up if they hadnt changed the time 3 times in less than an hour.
Joxiah Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Derivative Mind The 12 hour DT would only be accepted if a expansion or a MAJOR patch would be applied. Which now, is not the case. So yes, I am curious how CCP will explain this and really don't give a ** about their excuses (pretty tired of them 'cuz almost every patch has been deloyed WASN'T completed in the stated time schedule.) I do agree daily 1hour DT's as stated in EULA (I don't care if it's less JUST don't make it longer as you tend to do)... sick of it. BTW Don't give me "play WoW" and ** - as long as I pay I expect a fair deal of respect along. Name 1 MMO that completes downtime on patchday when they say. And you and the OP need to just stop. If this is a troll then poor form and if you are serious then please by all mean call you CC company and get your 50 cent credit for your days downtime. They have communicated whats going on and by all means if you 2 can do it better then fly to Iceland and put in a resume otherwise deal with it like everyone else.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:43:00 - [17] Edited by: Kinjanglou on 20/08/2009 15:45:02 ok i called my resident better buisness bureau , and a complaint is filed , i sent an email to CPP with no response for over 3 hours , i think its about time for a class action lawsuit here , i think we will just have to put all the down time from today togeather in 1 group and sue for the total of , umm what was it 500K accounts , by 5 hours , that should be quite a little chunk of change PS bring the damn servers up , so i can stop posting in this stupid forum please jesus hurry up
Stela'Artois Capital Ventures Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:43:00 - [18] Lets say a month has 30 days...times 24 hours is 720 hours in a month. Lets round up and say its $16 per month to play...lets see...that comes to $.02 cents per hour per account. So...this downtime cost you waht...a quarter at most? Send them a letter to explain your greivances, and when you go to place the stamp on the envelope you will see the futility of being irritated over such small amounts of money. They are working on it. You will get your Eve back. In the mean time, read the forums, learn a thing or two about the game in the guides and stickies, work on some ship fittings in EFT.
Teibor	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:44:00 - [19] No im not a troll. Im someone with a lot of experience in downtime situations and whilst I accept and agree with the downtime, the way that the time for re-enabling EVE has constatly moved speaks of incompetence.
Stela'Artois Capital Ventures Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:44:00 - [20] oh wow...I fell for a troll... le'sigh
Shadowed Blackhole Gallente Les Loyalistes	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:44:00 - [21] Another thing to keep under perspective here... World of Walkcraft makes you pay for their expansions, this is not the case with EvE. I don't mind the downtime ;) I'll tractor a stargate into a star and blow up the solar system. Take me to the Azgard.
Jose Black	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:48:00 - [22] Edited by: Jose Black on 20/08/2009 15:50:39 Originally by: Kinjanglou PS , and im sure there are no additions in this patch that will benefit me as im too new , so where is the benefit to me I was about saying go read the patch notes instead "being sure" out of the blue, but maybe as a new player you won't quite understand most of the it. That's why you should ask - kindly and in a nice way. You'll likely benefit from different sized ship modifications since you now could enhance your frigates or destroyers with small ones.
Derivative Mind	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:49:00 - [23] Edited by: Derivative Mind on 20/08/2009 15:49:12 Originally by: Joxiah Originally by: Derivative Mind The 12 hour DT would only be accepted if a expansion or a MAJOR patch would be applied. Which now, is not the case. So yes, I am curious how CCP will explain this and really don't give a ** about their excuses (pretty tired of them 'cuz almost every patch has been deloyed WASN'T completed in the stated time schedule.) I do agree daily 1hour DT's as stated in EULA (I don't care if it's less JUST don't make it longer as you tend to do)... sick of it. BTW Don't give me "play WoW" and ** - as long as I pay I expect a fair deal of respect along. Name 1 MMO that completes downtime on patchday when they say. And you and the OP need to just stop. If this is a troll then poor form and if you are serious then please by all mean call you CC company and get your 50 cent credit for your days downtime. They have communicated whats going on and by all means if you 2 can do it better then fly to Iceland and put in a resume otherwise deal with it like everyone else. I don't know any other MMO's cause I'm playing eve since 2005 (and it did a great job keeping me away of other competitors). I don't even want to think about camparing eve with any other MMO. Why? Because I don't pay to play another MMO I PAY to play eve. About the 50 cents, yeah I would like them back. We live in a world where you pay for what you get, and today, eve, isn't giving!
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:51:00 - [24] i just want the game back , all my laundry is clean now , and i dont wanna do something else , cause then i might decide that calling the 1 year account a loss and walking away before i buy 2 more , cause ive seen very little to the contrary yet , this game of all other MMOs ive seen , has the highest learning curve , which i thrive in , but this forcing people to play with others , well thats just not me
Stela'Artois Capital Ventures Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Kinjanglou but this forcing people to play with others , well thats just not me Then dont play a MMO.
Derivative Mind	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Stela'Artois Originally by: Kinjanglou but this forcing people to play with others , well thats just not me Then dont play a MMO. I subscribe to this.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:00:00 - [27] real open minded there , lol wow
Joe Starbreaker The Fighting Republicans	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Kinjanglou maybe i was not clear sir , i dont have a problem with daily down time , i mean this down time today , not any other , only today This is a patch. It's a major upgrade to the game. If this were any other MMO, you'd have to pay $49.95 just to get access to the new content, above and beyond the monthly subscription. Be thankful. = the GOP is recruiting =
Olvel	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:03:00 - [29] Over-react much? It's a patch, they cause downtime, deal with it. This isn't unique to EVE. Every major software product that has ever had a patch has caused downtime. I don't care if it's just installing the new Windows updates or rolling out a whole new server farm - patches involve downtime. EverQuest, Dark Age of Camelot, World of Warcraft... Every MMOG out there suffers from downtime when a new patch or expansion is rolled out. World of Warcraft, especially, is known for patch-related nightmares. The joke is always that while the servers may be up at XX o'clock, you won't actually be able to play the game until the next day. I don't know how many raids I had canceled due to patch-related bugginess/issues/downtime/whatever. It comes with the territory. It doesn't matter what game you play, it doesn't matter how many months you've paid for, it doesn't matter how much you want to play - you're going to get downtime. ----
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:05:00 - [30] Edited by: Kinjanglou on 20/08/2009 16:07:13 you know very well that if they charged for this , they would have no subscribers , because there are already too many things that deter new players from this game , so why dont you think a little more broadly PS , i realize that *****ing like this here does no good , but it keeps me occupied till game is up :P , the funny thing is the people trying to convince a crazy person not to act like this , thats the funny part :)
Snasty Caldari The Hippies House of Mercury	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:05:00 - [31] Edited by: Snasty on 20/08/2009 16:05:31 Originally by: Kinjanglou i might decide that calling the 1 year account a loss and walking away before i buy 2 more Please. From what I have read so far I'm fairly certain that my own Eve experience will be all the better for your departure.. Dont let that stop you from giving me what little stuff you may have however.. --------------------------------------- -=Snasty, short for Shagnasty ever since the GM's in SWG made me change it...!=-
Derivative Mind	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:06:00 - [32] Each game has its downsides. We ALL "agreed" we play eve. So stfu compairing. And about the part that you'd have to pay $49,99 for that expansion/patch (that comes done , you start play immediatly, not chewing you nails and emo rageing 12hrs)
Stela'Artois Capital Ventures Incorporated	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Kinjanglou real open minded there , lol wow Far more open minded than going into a massively >multiplayer< online game and complaining about having to play with others. Its like buying a cheeseburger from McDonalds and being disappointed that they put both cheese and meat on it...those heartless buggers.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:10:00 - [34] did i mention im crazy , yeah i did :P HAHHAHAH the previous has been an encounter with madness , for more of this steal my ore can .............
SJ02	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:12:00 - [35] I love how they are busting their asses to get an update installed for our benefit and people complain about the downtime. Upgrades go wrong sometimes, and I'm sure there would be a lot more crying if they pushed it out with whatever issues they are currently fixing.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:14:00 - [36] yeah you are right , they doin this update , out of the kindness of their hearts LOL , they just decided `, hey lets build this game and make it free and make updates and bust our asses and not be compenseated by 7 million per month in subscriptions ????
Derivative Mind	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:15:00 - [37] LOL "sometimes" Yeah, I too appreciate the hardfull, ass obsoleting work, but this isn't the first time this happens.
Jose Black	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:17:00 - [38] Come on, there is 14 days trial time, before you even need to pay at all. If you don't make yourself a picture of what awaits you before paying for a year it really is your fault. Also at first login you have to read and accept the EULA. Especially point 12 should've prevented any discussion about reimbursements. Neither CCP nor the very most part of players care if someone leaves. Just move on to some other game if you don't like EVE - silently. You'd lose your 1 year subscription fee? See first sentence. However in my opinion you'll miss a great adventure. You just need to get aware that you pay for being able to participate in the game. They grant you rights for your payment. You don't buy shares or something.
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:21:00 - [39] ok ive learned my lesson , ill never post here again trust me on that , there is nothing more i can say at this point that wont cost me friends in the long run , cause wow their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe
Jose Black	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Kinjanglou PS , i realize that *****ing like this here does no good , but it keeps me occupied till game is up :P , the funny thing is the people trying to convince a crazy person not to act like this , thats the funny part :) So you payed for a year just to try to get banned from forums for trolling some days later? Yes, you actually must be crazy. Maybe you just wait for the game to be up again to get you banned from there as well? Oh wait, if you're just trolling that 1 year story isn't true either . Shame on you.
Jose Black	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:34:00 - [41] Originally by: Kinjanglou their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe Let's get this straight: if you don't get along with the downtimes Eve isn't for you. People actually help you by suggesting you leave and do something else with your time. They also helped you by making you aware that your ranting will serve you no good. If you had used your time for some reading before posting you'd have come to that conclusion earlier. About that intelligence thing - are you going even lower now and actually start insulting people? I bet they'll like you for it and kindly offer further help. You had it coming from the very first post and yet still didn't learn anything.
Olvel	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Kinjanglou PS , i realize that *****ing like this here does no good , but it keeps me occupied till game is up :P , the funny thing is the people trying to convince a crazy person not to act like this , thats the funny part :) We're all bored, waiting for the servers to come back up, and looking for a diversion. Just like you are. ----
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Stela'Artois Trust me...they arent happy about downtime being extended either...it keeps them away from the bars. This. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Teibor	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:43:00 - [44] mine has started updating.
smoopmeister Caldari Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:44:00 - [45] Quote: ok ive learned my lesson , ill never post here again trust me on that , there is nothing more i can say at this point that wont cost me friends in the long run , cause wow their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe How you have friends in the first place is a miracle.
Herpes Sweatrash	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:47:00 - [46] Originally by: SJ02 I love how they are busting their asses to get an update installed for our benefit and people complain about the downtime. Upgrades go wrong sometimes, and I'm sure there would be a lot more crying if they pushed it out with whatever issues they are currently fixing. They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their heart.
Lord Cadus	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:12:00 - [47] Originally by: Kinjanglou thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:12:00 - [48] Quote: NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. I believe a relevant comment from the olden days might be: Read The ****ing Manual. -----
SJ02	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:37:00 - [49] Originally by: Herpes Sweatrash Originally by: SJ02 I love how they are busting their asses to get an update installed for our benefit and people complain about the downtime. Upgrades go wrong sometimes, and I'm sure there would be a lot more crying if they pushed it out with whatever issues they are currently fixing. They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their heart. Its rare for anyone to do anything out of the kindness of their hearts. That's doesn't change the fact that we will benefit from this upgrade. They could have just made us wait until winter or whenever the full upgrade it due and no one would have left. That's not to say people wouldn't cry like you stole their favorite toy but they wouldn't leave.
Ky Vatta Majority 12	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:45:00 - [50] Originally by: Kinjanglou ok ive learned my lesson , ill never post here again trust me on that , there is nothing more i can say at this point that wont cost me friends in the long run , cause wow their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe It`s a special day for you, it lets you get out of your cave, and go enjoy some daylight..... --- Self-confessed Carebear, and proud of it
Saartje Sarel	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:47:00 - [51] Uh oh. Oh noes! Its coming .. Absolutely .. Epic! Inspired!
Kinjanglou	Posted - 2009.08.20 17:49:00 - [52] Originally by: Ky Vatta Originally by: Kinjanglou ok ive learned my lesson , ill never post here again trust me on that , there is nothing more i can say at this point that wont cost me friends in the long run , cause wow their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe It`s a special day for you, it lets you get out of your cave, and go enjoy some daylight..... umm yes this would be very true , if i was not lied to about the time of this update , then i could have planned around it , instead , i was lied to , in any other case in a buisness , you are penalized when you dont meet expected times
Lord Cadus	Posted - 2009.08.20 18:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Kinjanglou Originally by: Ky Vatta Originally by: Kinjanglou ok ive learned my lesson , ill never post here again trust me on that , there is nothing more i can say at this point that wont cost me friends in the long run , cause wow their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe It`s a special day for you, it lets you get out of your cave, and go enjoy some daylight..... umm yes this would be very true , if i was not lied to about the time of this update , then i could have planned around it , instead , i was lied to , in any other case in a buisness , you are penalized when you dont meet expected times I encourage you, keep whining. You are definitely hurting CCP's feelings.
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2009.08.20 18:21:00 - [54] Originally by: Kinjanglou umm yes this would be very true , if i was not lied to about the time of this update , then i could have planned around it , instead , i was lied to , in any other case in a buisness , you are penalized when you dont meet expected times Except that CCP has a disclaimer - the one I posted above. You have not been lied to. CCP posted when they assumed the server would be up assuming everything went smoothly. Well, guess what? It didn't go smoothly, and there's nothing they could have done to get it out at 12:00 GMT once the problems revealed themselves. -----
Horric	Posted - 2009.08.20 18:44:00 - [55] slightly on this topic, is it that login servers are full or the actual server is full? It says only about 9000 players are on so ye wondering why it wont let me in =(
Pan Dora Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.08.20 18:53:00 - [56] Originally by: Horric slightly on this topic, is it that login servers are full or the actual server is full? It says only about 9000 players are on so ye wondering why it wont let me in =( and about 1000 in the queue? same here. _ My posts DOES reflect the view of my corp and ally... ..or a mistake they did when let me post. (on a side note I suport my corp/ally decision to not let me post sometimes)
Horric	Posted - 2009.08.20 19:01:00 - [57] Yea and the number doesnt seem to be going down at all. Arrrggg I wanna use my battle cruiser finally! :P
Kessiaan Minmatar Aitvaras Strategic Industries	Posted - 2009.08.20 19:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Kinjanglou Originally by: Ky Vatta Originally by: Kinjanglou ok ive learned my lesson , ill never post here again trust me on that , there is nothing more i can say at this point that wont cost me friends in the long run , cause wow their was only 1 person in this entire thread that didnt tell me to leave eve or bash me for my ranting , thats a terrible ratio of help , kinda reflective of intelligence i believe It`s a special day for you, it lets you get out of your cave, and go enjoy some daylight..... umm yes this would be very true , if i was not lied to about the time of this update , then i could have planned around it , instead , i was lied to , in any other case in a buisness , you are penalized when you dont meet expected times At least you weren't here for the boot.ini nerf, or the time the server was randomly down for almost a week because someone hacked into the database. Hell, I remember back when I played WoW in 2004 the game would be unplayable for days after a big patch. MMO patch days always suck. The companies aren't penalized for it because everyone expects it.
smoopmeister Caldari Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2009.08.20 19:21:00 - [59] Quote: umm yes this would be very true , if i was not lied to about the time of this update , then i could have planned around it , instead , i was lied to , in any other case in a buisness , you are penalized when you dont meet expected times I will compensate you. How does free missiles sound? [Delivery Disclaimer: missiles delivered in volleys of 7, sorry for the inconvenience]
Iria Ahrens Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.08.20 21:05:00 - [60] Edited by: Iria Ahrens on 20/08/2009 21:08:32 Originally by: Kinjanglou maybe i was not clear sir , i dont have a problem with daily down time , i mean this down time today , not any other , only today So why aren't you complaining that you're getting a patch for free? Why don't you demand to pay $30 or more for today's patch? I know! Since there is generally only one or two expansions per year. You can pro-rate your payment. Lesse, $30 average expansion cost. Apocrophya is only 1/2 an expansion. So $15 for today. Since you're upset about the downtime and an Expansion is for one year, lets divide $30 by 365. That's about 8 cents a day. So if you don't want to pay for today, you only owe $29.92 to CCP. The fact is, ALL MMOs have downtime. and ALL MMOs will often be very unstable on expansion day. Expect it, or MMOs aren't for you. It's not an EVE thing, it's an MMO thing. -- EVE is about balls, brains, and paranoia. SP comes in a distant fourth place.
Ivanna Humpalot	Posted - 2009.08.20 21:46:00 - [61] Edited by: Ivanna Humpalot on 20/08/2009 21:53:35 Originally by: Kinjanglou listen im new here and i really am not impressed with the ammount of down time this game has , and i wanna know how we are gonna be compensated for this ? I paid for 1 year of game time , not 1 year minus how ever long it takes for your to drink coffee and eat cookies or whatever you are doing , a reply without stupid suggestions would be nice , i believe we all deserve a day xtra per day that you are down ...
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2009.08.20 23:13:00 - [62] So, to summarize: You will not be compensated nor do you have any right to be. -----
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.08.20 23:29:00 - [63] Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai So, to summarize: You will not be compensated nor do you have any right to be. Alternative summary: troll got his thread to page three (and counting...) FREE jumpclone service: Thread\|Podlog
Jack Airron Gallente Setenta Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.08.21 03:16:00 - [64] Originally by: Kinjanglou Edited by: Kinjanglou on 20/08/2009 15:45:02 ok i called my resident better buisness bureau , and a complaint is filed , i sent an email to CPP with no response for over 3 hours , i think its about time for a class action lawsuit here , i think we will just have to put all the down time from today togeather in 1 group and sue for the total of , umm what was it 500K accounts , by 5 hours , that should be quite a little chunk of change PS bring the damn servers up , so i can stop posting in this stupid forum please jesus hurry up
Industry	Posted - 2009.08.21 03:58:00 - [65] 10/10. Lots of biters.
Ceryshen	Posted - 2009.08.21 12:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Kinjanglou listen Nope!
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation	Posted - 2009.08.21 23:37:00 - [67] I started to get ****ed, then realized this was all just a bunch of troll bait and lol'd at the 12 year olds and everyone who argued with them
Colonial Burton	Posted - 2009.08.28 19:22:00 - [68] Kinj, look, downtime can be annoying i know, believe me, it falls right on when i want to play. But it really is needed. U say it doesnt benefit you, you should have seen how eve was back in trinity. There are a lot of new things. Eventually your gonna see new things and realise that these patch downtimes are a good thing. So ease up on complaining dude. We've all done it yeah but we were quick to see how it affects us all in a good way. Here's an example, the server upgrades from trinity to apocrypha have made the server run more smoothly. there were times where it would take nearly 5 minutes to do anything in jita. now its reasonably quick. so as much as noone likes em, theyre needed.
g0ggalor	Posted - 2009.08.29 06:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Kinjanglou Edited by: Kinjanglou on 20/08/2009 15:28:19 this isnt about money , its about competence , if we are told the servers will be up , at 15 diff times throughout the day , that is simple incompetence and i just want the servers up due to the fact this is not the scheduled time , and its rediculas as im not the only one not happy about this , we all only want what we paid for PS , and im sure there are no additions in this patch that will benefit me as im too new , so where is the benefit to me So while every other MMO has you essentially re-buy the game for every expansion, you are *****ing because you have to wait a few extra hours for a free expansion? gtfo
rofflesausage	Posted - 2009.08.29 11:02:00 - [70] 3 pages guys? Seriously?
Kronossan Minmatar 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.29 16:15:00 - [71] can someone ban the OP already so we can move on plox?

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