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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.29 04:38:00 -
[331]
This is so frickin' stupid. Lowering the skillcap in EVE, hooray.
And if this is the only way to fix performance, CCP is incompetent.
HELLO! I am Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE! |
Karn Mithralia
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.29 06:52:00 -
[332]
Confirming this still sucks.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.29 07:23:00 -
[333]
Come on CCP I want more reliable scanning back.
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Kaar
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.08.29 09:31:00 -
[334]
It's a shame that CCP has resorted to punishing everyone who uses the scanner in the way it was intended, instead of punishing the minority who abused it.
Just another step in the wrong direction CCP have been moving for the previous few years.
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Raia Mortius
Yin Bao
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Posted - 2009.08.29 13:28:00 -
[335]
every time i log in and try to do something, this makes me angry.
change it back please.
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Sharadar
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Posted - 2009.08.29 16:49:00 -
[336]
I would really like to see this change reverted :(
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Thernys
Caldari
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.29 23:00:00 -
[337]
Well I've heard (seen) someone giving someone else advice about directional use in wormholes, 'just make sure the scan button is selected and then put something heavy on the enter key' basically. So I can see how something ******ed like that could cause issues, but perhaps a (considerably) shorter delay would also do the trick...
Say half a second, off the top of my head that seems like a number that might curtail misuse while still being normally usable.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.30 00:05:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Zartanic on 30/08/2009 00:07:39
 Originally by: Thernys
Well I've heard (seen) someone giving someone else advice about directional use in wormholes, 'just make sure the scan button is selected and then put something heavy on the enter key' basically. So I can see how something ******ed like that could cause issues, but perhaps a (considerably) shorter delay would also do the trick...
Say half a second, off the top of my head that seems like a number that might curtail misuse while still being normally usable.
Well yes that was the problem, that Dev blog with the numbers showing a few thousand macro players causing 30% of the server load which is due to the scanner spam they use. That's massive and they had to do something.
Hopefully though it s a temporary measure and a better system of timing can be put in place.
Some here may not be aware of that and assume its CCP being bloody minded or anti pirate, I do not think they had a choice and were quite shocked at what they found.
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Thernys
Caldari
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.30 08:29:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Zartanic
that Dev blog with the numbers showing a few thousand macro players causing 30% of the server load which is due to the scanner spam they use
I'm not quite sure how the directional scanner supposedly ties into macro miners/macro haulers/sweatshop mission farmers, but perhaps that only demonstrates my nonexistent experience as comes to their methods. Seems that that particular server load would just come from the fact there was a lot of them, and they were active in their respective shenanigans 23/7...
But that's beside the point. Moar directional clicks per unit of time, plzxs!
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WhiteSavage
Gallente
Altruism.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 09:19:00 -
[340]
Hinders gameplay. Bad, bad bad.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.08.30 10:51:00 -
[341]
Change it back CCP, random null sec ganks are difficult enough as it is without this random crap adding on top of it.
While your at it , remove null sec local.
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd.
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.30 12:14:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Thernys
Originally by: Zartanic
that Dev blog with the numbers showing a few thousand macro players causing 30% of the server load which is due to the scanner spam they use
I'm not quite sure how the directional scanner supposedly ties into macro miners/macro haulers/sweatshop mission farmers, but perhaps that only demonstrates my nonexistent experience as comes to their methods. Seems that that particular server load would just come from the fact there was a lot of them, and they were active in their respective shenanigans 23/7...
But that's beside the point. Moar directional clicks per unit of time, plzxs!
Because in order to monitor ship coming within range of them, the bots would spam the directional scanner, and probably a lot quicker than once per second.
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Hul'ka
Minmatar
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 12:41:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Because in order to monitor ship coming within range of them, the bots would spam the directional scanner, and probably a lot quicker than once per second.
Yea, but there's a much better solution then this. Half a second delay would hardly be noticable to most players. This is just rediculous.
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.30 15:38:00 -
[344]
Stop speculating about why this change was made and why an alternative solution is needed.
A delayed scanner is simply unacceptable, and it wasn't necessary for years.
This change must be reverted. Accept no compromise!
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd.
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.30 18:25:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Feilamya
A delayed scanner is simply unacceptable,
For you...
for others, it is.
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ropnes
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Posted - 2009.08.30 18:36:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Feilamya
A delayed scanner is simply unacceptable,
For you...
for others, it is.
you fail at pvp I take it?
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd.
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.30 19:02:00 -
[347]
Originally by: ropnes
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Feilamya
A delayed scanner is simply unacceptable,
For you...
for others, it is.
you fail at pvp I take it?
Nope, just a big ol' flaming caerbear!
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.08.30 20:07:00 -
[348]
Hey CCP how about fixing directional so i can pvp again.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
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Posted - 2009.08.30 21:52:00 -
[349]
By putting this 2 second delay in, you've made me go from using 1 or 2 people to check for probes or incoming hostiles to my entire gang. In the process, you may have restricted one person from spamming as much, but now, you have many more people now doing it simultaneously - run the numbers, and see if this this is really saving you server capabilities, or if you're breaking even (or worse).
If nothing else, compromise? What about a 1 second delay - yes, its still annoying, but it would still prevent the full-on scanner spammage that could occur without one, while not screwing over the PvPers who rely on the scanner for life and death decisions here.
Be reasonable, and let's work something out, yea?
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Raia Mortius
Yin Bao
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Posted - 2009.08.30 21:54:00 -
[350]
this change was so successful that jita crashed. c/d ?
please change this back to normal.
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Clyde Baroh
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:16:00 -
[351]
Signed. 0.0 roaming is total crap now. As if Insta-cloak logoffski russian ratting ravens or Chinese ISK farmers weren't hard enough to catch already, you've gave them absolute invulnerability and have completely ruined solo PvP which sucked bad enough before.
Half second delay and remove the ability to macro the enter key. Click scan only... let the w-space farmers wear out their mice scanning for potential threats. The rest of eve wants their scanner back.
OR... make the 2 second delay on the scanner be for W-space only 
Everyone knows that the 0.0 ratters use local macro's anyways, it's the w-space guys that are bogging the server.
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IceDe4d
XxTiggerxX Corp
United Pod Service
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:46:00 -
[352]
pls change it back
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:49:00 -
[353]
I refuse to clip my toe nails until this change is reverted!
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adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:50:00 -
[354]
Edited by: adriaans on 30/08/2009 22:51:32
this is the most IDIOTIC change EVER! CHANGE IT BACK!!
0.5 sec MIGHT be ok.. but 2?!?!!
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Support the introduction of Blaze crystals for Amarr!
Originally by: UMEE
if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail.
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Kasea Dromekal
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:52:00 -
[355]
This change makes PVP scanning EXTREMELY difficult and extra obnoxious with the constant notification that interferes with a game mechanic we have all been using for years.
If significant abuse of the scanner really does affect server performance so severely that this was a necessary change then implement some sort of anti-spam function to prevent prolonged sessions of updating scan.
This is a ridiculous change that makes it even easier for the masses of Eve who only want to earn pixel money and never have to fight to escape PVP. It's hard enough to catch fleeing targets already as CCP gears this game towards new players and punishes long time members, and this is just another PVP nerf.
For those of you who say 2 seconds is not noticeable, you obviously don't know how to scan in a PVP scenario. PLEASE fix this.
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Tyler
Annihilate.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:59:00 -
[356]
I wish i had got to this thread sooner.
CCP in what deluded world do you think that this was a good change?
I am willing to bet 90% of the playerbase would have preferred MORE lag over this utter ****e that we have now.
As a player that only flies interceptors and scouts nearly all the time, this has seriously affected my experience.
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Symeonius
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:59:00 -
[357]
Or how about some limits on how often you can spam scan in a given interval? Say 10 scans in 20 seconds.. you can spam those 10 all at once (with a .1 sec delay maybe) or scan once per 2 seconds.
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Nurse Tara
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:27:00 -
[358]
I've always thought it was hilarious that I am flying a spaceship that can cloak, control drones, dampen other ships electronics. I am commanding unfathmonable amounts of energy (as per my ships capacitor), warping through space, jumping across the galaxy in the matter of an hour or two, firing hybrid weapon rounds, and so on ...
Yet, I still can't get my scanner to do something which I can get my toaster to do. That is, do something automatically.
If I want toast in the morning at 6:00 am I put the bread in and set it to do so. Unfortunately, if I want my scanner to automatically keep scanning, I am SOL (and now I can't even spam the button to find people or protect myself, I have to super time it so I don't get some lame popup warning window.)
WARNING: AN IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR SUPER HIGH TECH SPACECRAFT IS UNABLE TO OPERATE AT TWENTIETH CENTURY STANDARDS.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.08.31 09:32:00 -
[359]
please remove this annoying limitation!
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Lord TYMAN
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2009.08.31 10:02:00 -
[360]
toasting to confirm this is fcking annoying
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