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Draxx
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Posted - 2004.10.14 10:30:00 -
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More like 5000 Minmatar midshipman dog tags.
These things are just too easy to accumulate. I currently have almost 1000 of them from maybe 3 or 4 evenings of running level 2 agent missions.
If it moves kill it. If it doesn't move, kill it. It might move later. |
Draxx
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Posted - 2004.10.14 10:30:00 -
[152]
More like 5000 Minmatar midshipman dog tags.
These things are just too easy to accumulate. I currently have almost 1000 of them from maybe 3 or 4 evenings of running level 2 agent missions.
If it moves kill it. If it doesn't move, kill it. It might move later. |
The Sloth
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Posted - 2004.10.14 17:10:00 -
[153]
Another Query:
If Dog Tags are required in addition to the loyalty points for some offers, won't that disadvantage those who run missions for divisions that provide predominantly courier missions (as opposed to kill missions) f.ex. Personnel, Production and so on?
The Sloth
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The Sloth
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Posted - 2004.10.14 17:10:00 -
[154]
Another Query:
If Dog Tags are required in addition to the loyalty points for some offers, won't that disadvantage those who run missions for divisions that provide predominantly courier missions (as opposed to kill missions) f.ex. Personnel, Production and so on?
The Sloth
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.14 18:43:00 -
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Papa Smurf - you've said several times that we will not be able to get CONCORD agents. But would it be possible for agents from the 4 empire navys to also (but rarely) give out CONCORD ships?
I would love to have a CONCORD SWAT Frigate. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.14 18:43:00 -
[156]
Papa Smurf - you've said several times that we will not be able to get CONCORD agents. But would it be possible for agents from the 4 empire navys to also (but rarely) give out CONCORD ships?
I would love to have a CONCORD SWAT Frigate. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.10.14 19:37:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Sabahl
Originally by: Papa Smurf
Originally by: Sabahl I don't think it has been mentioned yet but what about these dogtags? Are they part of the LP system too?
Superb work, by the way. Really looking forward to playign with the new system.
By dogtags I am referring to various forms of tokens that drop when you kill certain pirates. Effectively it means you have to kill so-and-so-many pirates of a given category.
That's not quite what I meant. I currently have a hangar full of Minmater dogtags from the current agent missions. You've not actually mentioned what we're going to do with them at all. Can we turn them in for LPs or will they be part of the "requirements" that come from the agents for their LP rewards?
Offers generally come in the form that you provide your agent with X LPs and various other stuff, and the agent gives you something in return. Only rarely are the offers "gifts" where you only pay in LPs. Thus the dogtags would classify as various other stuff.
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.10.14 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sabahl
Originally by: Papa Smurf
Originally by: Sabahl I don't think it has been mentioned yet but what about these dogtags? Are they part of the LP system too?
Superb work, by the way. Really looking forward to playign with the new system.
By dogtags I am referring to various forms of tokens that drop when you kill certain pirates. Effectively it means you have to kill so-and-so-many pirates of a given category.
That's not quite what I meant. I currently have a hangar full of Minmater dogtags from the current agent missions. You've not actually mentioned what we're going to do with them at all. Can we turn them in for LPs or will they be part of the "requirements" that come from the agents for their LP rewards?
Offers generally come in the form that you provide your agent with X LPs and various other stuff, and the agent gives you something in return. Only rarely are the offers "gifts" where you only pay in LPs. Thus the dogtags would classify as various other stuff.
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.10.14 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Papa Smurf - you've said several times that we will not be able to get CONCORD agents. But would it be possible for agents from the 4 empire navys to also (but rarely) give out CONCORD ships?
I would love to have a CONCORD SWAT Frigate.
It would be possible, but that's an authoring decision for Zrakor and his mates. I doubt that they have it planned at the moment.
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.10.14 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Papa Smurf - you've said several times that we will not be able to get CONCORD agents. But would it be possible for agents from the 4 empire navys to also (but rarely) give out CONCORD ships?
I would love to have a CONCORD SWAT Frigate.
It would be possible, but that's an authoring decision for Zrakor and his mates. I doubt that they have it planned at the moment.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.14 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Smurf
Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Papa Smurf - you've said several times that we will not be able to get CONCORD agents. But would it be possible for agents from the 4 empire navys to also (but rarely) give out CONCORD ships?
I would love to have a CONCORD SWAT Frigate.
It would be possible, but that's an authoring decision for Zrakor and his mates. I doubt that they have it planned at the moment.
Cool.
Please convey my desire for rare but not impossible to get Caldari ships to Zrakor. I can promise there are about 10000 other people who will agree with me. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.14 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Smurf
Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Papa Smurf - you've said several times that we will not be able to get CONCORD agents. But would it be possible for agents from the 4 empire navys to also (but rarely) give out CONCORD ships?
I would love to have a CONCORD SWAT Frigate.
It would be possible, but that's an authoring decision for Zrakor and his mates. I doubt that they have it planned at the moment.
Cool.
Please convey my desire for rare but not impossible to get Caldari ships to Zrakor. I can promise there are about 10000 other people who will agree with me. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
Darax Thulain
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:10:00 -
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Important question about aquiring and using these faction ships
Well, I am a minmatar, so the one faction other than the minmatar Navy ships that are interesting to me is the Angel cartel ships. However, the angel cartel has the role of being the badguys in the minnies eyes and hence I got -9.89 standings towards them. Standings does not decrease(increase) very fast and it seems to me that it would be totally impossible for me to fly an angel ship, ever. And my projectile skills hardly is any good on a sansha BS.
Is this well thought through..?
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Darax Thulain
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:10:00 -
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Important question about aquiring and using these faction ships
Well, I am a minmatar, so the one faction other than the minmatar Navy ships that are interesting to me is the Angel cartel ships. However, the angel cartel has the role of being the badguys in the minnies eyes and hence I got -9.89 standings towards them. Standings does not decrease(increase) very fast and it seems to me that it would be totally impossible for me to fly an angel ship, ever. And my projectile skills hardly is any good on a sansha BS.
Is this well thought through..?
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Darax Thulain
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:56:00 -
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Ops, forgot.
How am I supposed to get the best doggietags from the Amarr when the only good way to get a BS dog tag now is to do sabotaged mission, do I have to do missions for the amarr navy and then kill the sabotaged convoy in order to give them back to my original agent..? That would really suck in an IC perspective.
Also, how comes the amarr laser folks get to use many faction ships with their skills(Khanid, Sansha, Blood raiders) and minnies only use Angel, which I pointed out the trouble with on my other post above this?
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Darax Thulain
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:56:00 -
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Ops, forgot.
How am I supposed to get the best doggietags from the Amarr when the only good way to get a BS dog tag now is to do sabotaged mission, do I have to do missions for the amarr navy and then kill the sabotaged convoy in order to give them back to my original agent..? That would really suck in an IC perspective.
Also, how comes the amarr laser folks get to use many faction ships with their skills(Khanid, Sansha, Blood raiders) and minnies only use Angel, which I pointed out the trouble with on my other post above this?
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.10.15 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Important question about aquiring and using these faction ships
Well, I am a minmatar, so the one faction other than the minmatar Navy ships that are interesting to me is the Angel cartel ships. However, the angel cartel has the role of being the badguys in the minnies eyes and hence I got -9.89 standings towards them. Standings does not decrease(increase) very fast and it seems to me that it would be totally impossible for me to fly an angel ship, ever. And my projectile skills hardly is any good on a sansha BS.
Is this well thought through..?
Perhaps you can purchase these types of ships from others with much better standings
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.10.15 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Important question about aquiring and using these faction ships
Well, I am a minmatar, so the one faction other than the minmatar Navy ships that are interesting to me is the Angel cartel ships. However, the angel cartel has the role of being the badguys in the minnies eyes and hence I got -9.89 standings towards them. Standings does not decrease(increase) very fast and it seems to me that it would be totally impossible for me to fly an angel ship, ever. And my projectile skills hardly is any good on a sansha BS.
Is this well thought through..?
Perhaps you can purchase these types of ships from others with much better standings
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Draxx More like 5000 Minmatar midshipman dog tags.
These things are just too easy to accumulate. I currently have almost 1000 of them from maybe 3 or 4 evenings of running level 2 agent missions.
People that run for a empire agent, and behave ( as in not kill ships belonging to their faction ) don't get anywhere near those numbers. Not even remotely close. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:33:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Draxx More like 5000 Minmatar midshipman dog tags.
These things are just too easy to accumulate. I currently have almost 1000 of them from maybe 3 or 4 evenings of running level 2 agent missions.
People that run for a empire agent, and behave ( as in not kill ships belonging to their faction ) don't get anywhere near those numbers. Not even remotely close. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.10.15 05:39:00 -
[171]
Ok.. now, I haven't done missions for over 15 months. I hate missions. Why? Cause its not a very good source of income, and the faction standing is useless..
but this, this changes things. Oh yes it does.
Answer me one thing, and mind you, your very tone could forever condemn me into a nightmare of agent w***ing madness!
Federation Navy --> Federate Issue Megathron
Will that be one of the top end rewards, considering there are Caldari Navy Ravens..? _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.10.15 05:39:00 -
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Ok.. now, I haven't done missions for over 15 months. I hate missions. Why? Cause its not a very good source of income, and the faction standing is useless..
but this, this changes things. Oh yes it does.
Answer me one thing, and mind you, your very tone could forever condemn me into a nightmare of agent w***ing madness!
Federation Navy --> Federate Issue Megathron
Will that be one of the top end rewards, considering there are Caldari Navy Ravens..? _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: JP Beauregard on 15/10/2004 06:54:32
Originally by: Gariuys People that run for a empire agent, and behave ( as in not kill ships belonging to their faction ) don't get anywhere near those numbers. Not even remotely close.
Mission rats are dropping dog-tags now in Empire space and the level 3 mission I finsihed off with last night had me blow up almost two dozen Caldari Navy vessels so I wouldn't worry about the insignia supply just yet.
PS: I admit I do enjoy the thought of DC hauling garbage for the Navy, sick man that I am
JP Beauregard
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: JP Beauregard on 15/10/2004 06:54:32
Originally by: Gariuys People that run for a empire agent, and behave ( as in not kill ships belonging to their faction ) don't get anywhere near those numbers. Not even remotely close.
Mission rats are dropping dog-tags now in Empire space and the level 3 mission I finsihed off with last night had me blow up almost two dozen Caldari Navy vessels so I wouldn't worry about the insignia supply just yet.
PS: I admit I do enjoy the thought of DC hauling garbage for the Navy, sick man that I am
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Ops, forgot.
How am I supposed to get the best doggietags from the Amarr when the only good way to get a BS dog tag now is to do sabotaged mission, do I have to do missions for the amarr navy and then kill the sabotaged convoy in order to give them back to my original agent..? That would really suck in an IC perspective.
Maybe some of the level 4 Minnie missions will let you take a pop at Amarr battleships to get the high ranking dog tags.
Of course, I expect the valiant ships of the Imperial Navy will be more than a match for you, you dirty minnie
Or failing that, you could always buy the dog tags from the market.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Ops, forgot.
How am I supposed to get the best doggietags from the Amarr when the only good way to get a BS dog tag now is to do sabotaged mission, do I have to do missions for the amarr navy and then kill the sabotaged convoy in order to give them back to my original agent..? That would really suck in an IC perspective.
Maybe some of the level 4 Minnie missions will let you take a pop at Amarr battleships to get the high ranking dog tags.
Of course, I expect the valiant ships of the Imperial Navy will be more than a match for you, you dirty minnie
Or failing that, you could always buy the dog tags from the market.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Kenan Waroria
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Ops, forgot.
How am I supposed to get the best doggietags from the Amarr when the only good way to get a BS dog tag now is to do sabotaged mission, do I have to do missions for the amarr navy and then kill the sabotaged convoy in order to give them back to my original agent..? That would really suck in an IC perspective.
Also, how comes the amarr laser folks get to use many faction ships with their skills(Khanid, Sansha, Blood raiders) and minnies only use Angel, which I pointed out the trouble with on my other post above this?
Correct me if IŠm wrong but: Sansha is not Amarr ships, they may be useing lasers but the ships arenŠt the same.
The way I see it the following factions should be around:
Race Faction Amarr -> Amarr, Blood raiders and Khanid Caldari -> Caldari, Gurista and Mordus legion Gallente -> Gallente, Initaki and Serpentis Minmatar -> Ammatar, Angel cartel (Domination?) and Minmatar
But when I look in the Database all Ammatar stuff is Amarr based, I thought they were Minmatar based. As it is now Projectiles and Minmatar ships can only be given from Angel and Minmatar fleet. But Amarr and Lasers can be given from Amarr, Ammatar, Blood Raiders and Sanshas as it is now. I shouldnŠt complain since IŠm Amarr but I still want the game to be somewhat equal for all the races.
After all if there were no Minmatar around I woudnŠt have much to hunt would I? "Full circle" |
Kenan Waroria
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Ops, forgot.
How am I supposed to get the best doggietags from the Amarr when the only good way to get a BS dog tag now is to do sabotaged mission, do I have to do missions for the amarr navy and then kill the sabotaged convoy in order to give them back to my original agent..? That would really suck in an IC perspective.
Also, how comes the amarr laser folks get to use many faction ships with their skills(Khanid, Sansha, Blood raiders) and minnies only use Angel, which I pointed out the trouble with on my other post above this?
Correct me if IŠm wrong but: Sansha is not Amarr ships, they may be useing lasers but the ships arenŠt the same.
The way I see it the following factions should be around:
Race Faction Amarr -> Amarr, Blood raiders and Khanid Caldari -> Caldari, Gurista and Mordus legion Gallente -> Gallente, Initaki and Serpentis Minmatar -> Ammatar, Angel cartel (Domination?) and Minmatar
But when I look in the Database all Ammatar stuff is Amarr based, I thought they were Minmatar based. As it is now Projectiles and Minmatar ships can only be given from Angel and Minmatar fleet. But Amarr and Lasers can be given from Amarr, Ammatar, Blood Raiders and Sanshas as it is now. I shouldnŠt complain since IŠm Amarr but I still want the game to be somewhat equal for all the races.
After all if there were no Minmatar around I woudnŠt have much to hunt would I? "Full circle" |
Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Important question about aquiring and using these faction ships
Well, I am a minmatar, so the one faction other than the minmatar Navy ships that are interesting to me is the Angel cartel ships. However, the angel cartel has the role of being the badguys in the minnies eyes and hence I got -9.89 standings towards them. Standings does not decrease(increase) very fast and it seems to me that it would be totally impossible for me to fly an angel ship, ever. And my projectile skills hardly is any good on a sansha BS.
Is this well thought through..?
With such standings, you obviously can't do missions for the angel cartel. Thus you will probably have to deal with other players to get your heart's desire.
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Darax Thulain Important question about aquiring and using these faction ships
Well, I am a minmatar, so the one faction other than the minmatar Navy ships that are interesting to me is the Angel cartel ships. However, the angel cartel has the role of being the badguys in the minnies eyes and hence I got -9.89 standings towards them. Standings does not decrease(increase) very fast and it seems to me that it would be totally impossible for me to fly an angel ship, ever. And my projectile skills hardly is any good on a sansha BS.
Is this well thought through..?
With such standings, you obviously can't do missions for the angel cartel. Thus you will probably have to deal with other players to get your heart's desire.
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