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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Dust Puppy
Edited by: Dust Puppy on 13/10/2004 11:09:41
What isn't?
Edit: oh right the time, well how to you tell time in metric system. Afaik you don't you can tell differences in time but then you use seconds.
Why would you use an imperial measurement like the second?
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:14:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Edited by: Dust Puppy on 13/10/2004 11:09:41
What isn't?
Edit: oh right the time, well how to you tell time in metric system. Afaik you don't you can tell differences in time but then you use seconds.
Why would you use an imperial measurement like the second?
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:17:00 -
[273]
What else do you suggest? Nuclear time or something using the time it takes for uranium to turn into lead or something?
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:17:00 -
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What else do you suggest? Nuclear time or something using the time it takes for uranium to turn into lead or something?
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:19:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Wren
Time isn't.
But metric is based on base 10.
Time is based on groupings of 60's.
with really not 24 hours per day, but minus 3 minutes 56 seconds, that's why we have leap years
So you are saying that the Imperial method of measuring time is superior, but give no real reason.
You don't have to measure time in seconds, there doesn't have to be 24hrs in a day - it is just what you are used to.
An hour is an arbitary value, you could quite easily divide the day up using a metric system instead of an imperial one.
But, why bother? Everyone is used to, and understands, the imperial method for telling time - a metric system would feel unnatural.
Like I said, it is all a matter of what you are used to and what people around you understand.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:19:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Wren
Time isn't.
But metric is based on base 10.
Time is based on groupings of 60's.
with really not 24 hours per day, but minus 3 minutes 56 seconds, that's why we have leap years
So you are saying that the Imperial method of measuring time is superior, but give no real reason.
You don't have to measure time in seconds, there doesn't have to be 24hrs in a day - it is just what you are used to.
An hour is an arbitary value, you could quite easily divide the day up using a metric system instead of an imperial one.
But, why bother? Everyone is used to, and understands, the imperial method for telling time - a metric system would feel unnatural.
Like I said, it is all a matter of what you are used to and what people around you understand.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:20:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Avon
Why would you use an imperial measurement like the second?
Second is used as a basic unit in the SI system as is meter and they make the unit for speed m/s. Even though it is used in the imperial system doesn't mean it's not used in the SI system. The systems are not mutually exclusive.
As far as I recall there are 7 base units the most known are meters, seconds, kg (yeah I never got what's up with that why it's not g).
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:20:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Avon
Why would you use an imperial measurement like the second?
Second is used as a basic unit in the SI system as is meter and they make the unit for speed m/s. Even though it is used in the imperial system doesn't mean it's not used in the SI system. The systems are not mutually exclusive.
As far as I recall there are 7 base units the most known are meters, seconds, kg (yeah I never got what's up with that why it's not g).
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:23:00 -
[279]
google on metric:
why use the metric system
comma and point notations are just a way of representing the data, people can do what ever they want to make it look better for them or someone else.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:23:00 -
[280]
google on metric:
why use the metric system
comma and point notations are just a way of representing the data, people can do what ever they want to make it look better for them or someone else.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:24:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Originally by: Avon
Why would you use an imperial measurement like the second?
Second is used as a basic unit in the SI system as is meter and they make the unit for speed m/s. Even though it is used in the imperial system doesn't mean it's not used in the SI system. The systems are not mutually exclusive.
As far as I recall there are 7 base units the most known are meters, seconds, kg (yeah I never got what's up with that why it's not g).
Whoa there.
The second is a measurement adopted by SI, it was unchanged from its imperial value and is fundamentaly at odds with the metric system as a whole.
It was adopted because no-one could agree on a better measurement, not because it was in anyway metric.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:24:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Originally by: Avon
Why would you use an imperial measurement like the second?
Second is used as a basic unit in the SI system as is meter and they make the unit for speed m/s. Even though it is used in the imperial system doesn't mean it's not used in the SI system. The systems are not mutually exclusive.
As far as I recall there are 7 base units the most known are meters, seconds, kg (yeah I never got what's up with that why it's not g).
Whoa there.
The second is a measurement adopted by SI, it was unchanged from its imperial value and is fundamentaly at odds with the metric system as a whole.
It was adopted because no-one could agree on a better measurement, not because it was in anyway metric.
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:25:00 -
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This has so little to do with Shadowbane.
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:25:00 -
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This has so little to do with Shadowbane.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:26:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Avon
Whoa there.
The second is a measurement adopted by SI, it was unchanged from its imperial value and is fundamentaly at odds with the metric system as a whole.
It was adopted because no-one could agree on a better measurement, not because it was in anyway metric.
Yes it was adopted by the metric system and is therefore metric. It is also used in the imperial system so it is also imperial. Do you think the imperial system was the first one to define the second? They might have but I think not.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:26:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Avon
Whoa there.
The second is a measurement adopted by SI, it was unchanged from its imperial value and is fundamentaly at odds with the metric system as a whole.
It was adopted because no-one could agree on a better measurement, not because it was in anyway metric.
Yes it was adopted by the metric system and is therefore metric. It is also used in the imperial system so it is also imperial. Do you think the imperial system was the first one to define the second? They might have but I think not.
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:29:00 -
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Well, maybe because if you divided a measurement metrically for time for a day, then divided that down again by 100 (so first you have D100 then each D100 is divided by 100) you would have something that is about 14.4 seconds long. Now.... can you imagine trying to use that for a time measurement, if you broke it down again (by 100) it would be too small to comprehend by the average human, but leaving it at the larger value would make telling someone to be someplace at 044.891 damn cumbersome. It's because the day isn't perfectly able to fall into metric, and so the hour and second don't either.
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:29:00 -
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Well, maybe because if you divided a measurement metrically for time for a day, then divided that down again by 100 (so first you have D100 then each D100 is divided by 100) you would have something that is about 14.4 seconds long. Now.... can you imagine trying to use that for a time measurement, if you broke it down again (by 100) it would be too small to comprehend by the average human, but leaving it at the larger value would make telling someone to be someplace at 044.891 damn cumbersome. It's because the day isn't perfectly able to fall into metric, and so the hour and second don't either.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:31:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Originally by: Avon
Whoa there.
The second is a measurement adopted by SI, it was unchanged from its imperial value and is fundamentaly at odds with the metric system as a whole.
It was adopted because no-one could agree on a better measurement, not because it was in anyway metric.
Yes it was adopted by the metric system and is therefore metric. It is also used in the imperial system so it is also imperial. Do you think the imperial system was the first one to define the second? They might have but I think not.
". However, metric time was never part of the metric system. In fact, the original metric system did not even include a base unit of time until nearly a century later, when the CGS (centimeter, gram, second) system was introduced in 1874 to facilitate scientific research.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:31:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Wren
Well, maybe because if you divided a measurement metrically for time for a day, then divided that down again by 100 (so first you have D100 then each D100 is divided by 100) you would have something that is about 14.4 seconds long. Now.... can you imagine trying to use that for a time measurement, if you broke it down again (by 100) it would be too small to comprehend by the average human, but leaving it at the larger value would make telling someone to be someplace at 044.891 damn cumbersome. It's because the day isn't perfectly able to fall into metric, and so the hour and second don't either.
lol, but that is just a matter of perception and understanding - there is no reason why you can't do it! ... and that is my whole point.
Horses for courses.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:31:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Originally by: Avon
Whoa there.
The second is a measurement adopted by SI, it was unchanged from its imperial value and is fundamentaly at odds with the metric system as a whole.
It was adopted because no-one could agree on a better measurement, not because it was in anyway metric.
Yes it was adopted by the metric system and is therefore metric. It is also used in the imperial system so it is also imperial. Do you think the imperial system was the first one to define the second? They might have but I think not.
". However, metric time was never part of the metric system. In fact, the original metric system did not even include a base unit of time until nearly a century later, when the CGS (centimeter, gram, second) system was introduced in 1874 to facilitate scientific research.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Wren
Well, maybe because if you divided a measurement metrically for time for a day, then divided that down again by 100 (so first you have D100 then each D100 is divided by 100) you would have something that is about 14.4 seconds long. Now.... can you imagine trying to use that for a time measurement, if you broke it down again (by 100) it would be too small to comprehend by the average human, but leaving it at the larger value would make telling someone to be someplace at 044.891 damn cumbersome. It's because the day isn't perfectly able to fall into metric, and so the hour and second don't either.
lol, but that is just a matter of perception and understanding - there is no reason why you can't do it! ... and that is my whole point.
Horses for courses.
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:32:00 -
[293]
OMFG!
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:32:00 -
[294]
OMFG!
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:34:00 -
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What the hell are you talking about. First of if we were accustomed to this then it wouldn't really be a problem.
Let's say one day is 10 hours' which is the same as 24 hours so one hour' is the same as 2.4 hour which is ...
Why am I even bothering it's not like time is imperial anyway those are two different systems that's like telling me to measure womans hotness in SI system.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:34:00 -
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What the hell are you talking about. First of if we were accustomed to this then it wouldn't really be a problem.
Let's say one day is 10 hours' which is the same as 24 hours so one hour' is the same as 2.4 hour which is ...
Why am I even bothering it's not like time is imperial anyway those are two different systems that's like telling me to measure womans hotness in SI system.
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Wren on 13/10/2004 11:40:30
Edited by: Wren on 13/10/2004 11:39:06
Okay, I can comprehend 14.4 seconds kinda. I might even be able to keep track of 1.44 seconds, but I would be damned to keep track of .144 seconds or 144 seconds. And could you imagine the clock faces?
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That is UGLY and more than a little frightning.
Guy1: "Hey Bob, meet you at 88:025.500 tonight."
Guy2(bob): "No can do, I have an appointment at 84:455.900. Make it 90:000:750 or so."
Guy1: "Okay, but then you're gonna miss the dancers."
Guy2(bob): "Damn, I heard there is one chic who is .88 Hotness."
Screw that.
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Wren on 13/10/2004 11:40:30
Edited by: Wren on 13/10/2004 11:39:06
Okay, I can comprehend 14.4 seconds kinda. I might even be able to keep track of 1.44 seconds, but I would be damned to keep track of .144 seconds or 144 seconds. And could you imagine the clock faces?
###:###.###
That is UGLY and more than a little frightning.
Guy1: "Hey Bob, meet you at 88:025.500 tonight."
Guy2(bob): "No can do, I have an appointment at 84:455.900. Make it 90:000:750 or so."
Guy1: "Okay, but then you're gonna miss the dancers."
Guy2(bob): "Damn, I heard there is one chic who is .88 Hotness."
Screw that.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:42:00 -
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Well Avon I've been using the metric system as the same as the SI system but I guess that's not totally correct although it is referred to often as the modern metric system and the second is very much part of it.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.13 11:42:00 -
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Well Avon I've been using the metric system as the same as the SI system but I guess that's not totally correct although it is referred to often as the modern metric system and the second is very much part of it.
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