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Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:27:00 - [331] I'm guessing this much __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:27:00 - [332] I'm guessing this much __________ Capacitor research
Hakera	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:27:00 - [333] Edited by: Hakera on 13/10/2004 12:31:20 Originally by: Joshua Calvert How much pie do we get? depends if your talking about a metric strawberry pie or warm metric apple pie! Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Hakera	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:27:00 - [334] Edited by: Hakera on 13/10/2004 12:31:20 Originally by: Joshua Calvert How much pie do we get? depends if your talking about a metric strawberry pie or warm metric apple pie! Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Mr McFish	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:30:00 - [335] Urgh my head hurts
Mr McFish	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:30:00 - [336] Urgh my head hurts
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:31:00 - [337] Originally by: TheMiner Edited by: TheMiner on 13/10/2004 09:50:37 Originally by: mahhy . I would guess it would be impossible to PROVE one systems superiority over anothers. If anyone can suggest a method to do so without resorting to any sort of "its easier this way" mumbo jumbo, please do so. Hey.. I want you to PROVE to me that 7.0 is a higher number than 6.0 ..... But no using "becasue it has a greater value" or "its higher on a number line" mumbo jumbo. Please do so. I was simply trying to suggest that the idea of one system being superior to another is entirely subjective, that is based on ones own experience. Its a valid question for both the decimal point versus decimal comma, versus lack of separators discussion as well as the Imperial versus Metric system arguments. You don't like the way people in Scandinavia do their numbers, no problem. I personally don't like the Imperial system of measurements, I grew up using Metric. Imperial really makes my head hurt. But as an example of what I'm trying to get at, my grandparents think Imperial is much better than Metric I just don't get that. So, without answering a question with a question, can you think of a way to prove one systems superiority over another? I can't... its all too subjective. shrug
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:31:00 - [338] Originally by: TheMiner Edited by: TheMiner on 13/10/2004 09:50:37 Originally by: mahhy . I would guess it would be impossible to PROVE one systems superiority over anothers. If anyone can suggest a method to do so without resorting to any sort of "its easier this way" mumbo jumbo, please do so. Hey.. I want you to PROVE to me that 7.0 is a higher number than 6.0 ..... But no using "becasue it has a greater value" or "its higher on a number line" mumbo jumbo. Please do so. I was simply trying to suggest that the idea of one system being superior to another is entirely subjective, that is based on ones own experience. Its a valid question for both the decimal point versus decimal comma, versus lack of separators discussion as well as the Imperial versus Metric system arguments. You don't like the way people in Scandinavia do their numbers, no problem. I personally don't like the Imperial system of measurements, I grew up using Metric. Imperial really makes my head hurt. But as an example of what I'm trying to get at, my grandparents think Imperial is much better than Metric I just don't get that. So, without answering a question with a question, can you think of a way to prove one systems superiority over another? I can't... its all too subjective. shrug
Hakera	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:33:00 - [339] maths is one of the only faliuable(sp?) truths in existance (such as a triangle as three sides). I wouldn't question it! (recalls philosophy lecture a long time ago) Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Hakera	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:33:00 - [340] maths is one of the only faliuable(sp?) truths in existance (such as a triangle as three sides). I wouldn't question it! (recalls philosophy lecture a long time ago) Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:35:00 - [341] Originally by: Eris Discordia Whoaaa! Interesting discussion here.. Personally I thinks gone a bit towards the "weird" end of the scale
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:35:00 - [342] Originally by: Eris Discordia Whoaaa! Interesting discussion here.. Personally I thinks gone a bit towards the "weird" end of the scale
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:37:00 - [343] Originally by: Hakera maths is one of the only faliuable(sp?) truths in existance (such as a triangle as three sides). I wouldn't question it! (recalls philosophy lecture a long time ago) Infallible I think you mean? Dictionary.com: 1. Incapable of erring: an infallible guide; an infallible source of information. 2. Incapable of failing; certain: an infallible antidote; an infallible rule. 3. Roman Catholic Church. Incapable of error in expounding doctrine on faith or morals. And this entire discussion is like one big vague philosophy lesson now
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:37:00 - [344] Originally by: Hakera maths is one of the only faliuable(sp?) truths in existance (such as a triangle as three sides). I wouldn't question it! (recalls philosophy lecture a long time ago) Infallible I think you mean? Dictionary.com: 1. Incapable of erring: an infallible guide; an infallible source of information. 2. Incapable of failing; certain: an infallible antidote; an infallible rule. 3. Roman Catholic Church. Incapable of error in expounding doctrine on faith or morals. And this entire discussion is like one big vague philosophy lesson now
Hakera	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:41:00 - [345] ty mahhy - i knew i was close but could not be bothered looking it up! Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Hakera	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:41:00 - [346] ty mahhy - i knew i was close but could not be bothered looking it up! Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
hatchette	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:57:00 - [347] To all european-metric naay sayers.. especially the miner. To avoid confusion, europeans do not write dots (for thousands) for numbers smaller than 1million. so 433,432.43(US) is always written as 433432,43(EU).. but if number is bigger than 1 million.. 1,433,432.43 (US) it's written like 1.433.432,43 (EU) since decimal comma can be only one, you always know which system is used.
hatchette	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:57:00 - [348] To all european-metric naay sayers.. especially the miner. To avoid confusion, europeans do not write dots (for thousands) for numbers smaller than 1million. so 433,432.43(US) is always written as 433432,43(EU).. but if number is bigger than 1 million.. 1,433,432.43 (US) it's written like 1.433.432,43 (EU) since decimal comma can be only one, you always know which system is used.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:58:00 - [349] You can question mathematical thruths by questioning numbers and the existence of them. Have you ever encounterd a 1 or a 2? You could say that numbers exist only in referance of somethig else. Like 5 exists in referance to 5 pages of a thread. If you believe in objective values like Good or Wrong you can say that something is bad or inferior, but that would be an entirely different discussion. Especially if you count in the incommensurability of different theories. Is that enough food for thought to get another few pages extra? I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.10.13 12:58:00 - [350] You can question mathematical thruths by questioning numbers and the existence of them. Have you ever encounterd a 1 or a 2? You could say that numbers exist only in referance of somethig else. Like 5 exists in referance to 5 pages of a thread. If you believe in objective values like Good or Wrong you can say that something is bad or inferior, but that would be an entirely different discussion. Especially if you count in the incommensurability of different theories. Is that enough food for thought to get another few pages extra? I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:00:00 - [351] Exactly, Eris. I, for one, would be highly dubious of 5 pieces of pie unless they appear right this second (or partial Swatch beat). Good or bad, the pie is likely to be superior to the inferior quiche, too. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:00:00 - [352] Exactly, Eris. I, for one, would be highly dubious of 5 pieces of pie unless they appear right this second (or partial Swatch beat). Good or bad, the pie is likely to be superior to the inferior quiche, too. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:07:00 - [353] Originally by: Eris Discordia You can question mathematical thruths by questioning numbers and the existence of them. Have you ever encounterd a 1 or a 2? You could say that numbers exist only in referance of somethig else. Like 5 exists in referance to 5 pages of a thread. Does anyone actually argue that numbers themselves exist? That seems a bit odd to me. Perhaps a mathmetician will step in at this point, which I'm definitely not Originally by: Eris Discordia ...objective values like Good or Wrong Aren't Good / Wrong subjective values? Is anything objectively good or wrong??
mahhy	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:07:00 - [354] Originally by: Eris Discordia You can question mathematical thruths by questioning numbers and the existence of them. Have you ever encounterd a 1 or a 2? You could say that numbers exist only in referance of somethig else. Like 5 exists in referance to 5 pages of a thread. Does anyone actually argue that numbers themselves exist? That seems a bit odd to me. Perhaps a mathmetician will step in at this point, which I'm definitely not Originally by: Eris Discordia ...objective values like Good or Wrong Aren't Good / Wrong subjective values? Is anything objectively good or wrong??
Durin	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:08:00 - [355] My god, what a trainwreck of a thread this has become! Is it just me, or am i not nerdy enough to understand?
Durin	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:08:00 - [356] My god, what a trainwreck of a thread this has become! Is it just me, or am i not nerdy enough to understand?
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:15:00 - [357] Originally by: mahhy Originally by: Eris Discordia You can question mathematical thruths by questioning numbers and the existence of them. Have you ever encounterd a 1 or a 2? You could say that numbers exist only in referance of somethig else. Like 5 exists in referance to 5 pages of a thread. Does anyone actually argue that numbers themselves exist? That seems a bit odd to me. Perhaps a mathmetician will step in at this point, which I'm definitely not Philosophers argue about everything that is taken for granted. Originally by: Eris Discordia ...objective values like Good or Wrong Quote: Aren't Good / Wrong subjective values? Is anything objectively good or wrong?? When you have an independant definition of Good or Wrong you can use it to compare other definitions with it. The alluring side of finding an objective definition of Good is that you can tell that some thinsg are bad not because only you think so, but because they are truely bad and should be avoided. There are many philosophers who defend an objective meaning of Good and others who say Good or Wrong does not exist at all and it's only invented for other reasons. For instance we use good or bad to express a feeling and nothing more. There are so many many views on this it will take ages to explain why you can defend a objective definition of good and why moral discussion is more then just expressing feelings. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:15:00 - [358] Originally by: mahhy Originally by: Eris Discordia You can question mathematical thruths by questioning numbers and the existence of them. Have you ever encounterd a 1 or a 2? You could say that numbers exist only in referance of somethig else. Like 5 exists in referance to 5 pages of a thread. Does anyone actually argue that numbers themselves exist? That seems a bit odd to me. Perhaps a mathmetician will step in at this point, which I'm definitely not Philosophers argue about everything that is taken for granted. Originally by: Eris Discordia ...objective values like Good or Wrong Quote: Aren't Good / Wrong subjective values? Is anything objectively good or wrong?? When you have an independant definition of Good or Wrong you can use it to compare other definitions with it. The alluring side of finding an objective definition of Good is that you can tell that some thinsg are bad not because only you think so, but because they are truely bad and should be avoided. There are many philosophers who defend an objective meaning of Good and others who say Good or Wrong does not exist at all and it's only invented for other reasons. For instance we use good or bad to express a feeling and nothing more. There are so many many views on this it will take ages to explain why you can defend a objective definition of good and why moral discussion is more then just expressing feelings. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Wren	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:17:00 - [359] So is it good or bad to lie and say I have a metric book of hotness which Eris scores highly in? --------------------------------------------------
Wren	Posted - 2004.10.13 13:17:00 - [360] So is it good or bad to lie and say I have a metric book of hotness which Eris scores highly in? --------------------------------------------------

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