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Little Fistter
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 23:07:00 -
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"ISM's" are a red herring.
Smart people know that there will always be an "Us" vs "Them" regardless of if its Athens vs Spartans, Greeks vs Persians, Romans vs Celts, right down to the modern era.
Now the smart people usually get the stupid people to do the fighting for them. It helps clean the gene pool and frankly, leading the ignorant of this planet is downright easy (Just listen to Beck, Hannity or Limbaugh to see how stupid people are!)
The eternally stupid are easily controlled through trigger words. The trick is to guess the correct trigger word to elicit the most violent response. Fortunately, the stupid are subject to many irrational phobias and most trigger words work for them with little effort.
Frankly, I regard a person's intelligence in inverse proportion to their acceptance of hate speech. Smart people don't call names or waste their lives talking about hatred.
Its all a matter of how afraid we are of each other. Those of us who harbor many racial hatred thoughts are burdened by them and because their minds are filled with these evil thoughts, they miss out on the beauty of the world.
Frankly, I like like what Rabbi Jesus said: "Judge not, lest ye be judged." but Buddha and Confucius said virtually the same thing, much earlier.
A tolerant spirit is its own reward. DEVS! Please a small color indicator upon jump gate icon that shows color of the system security rating of the destination system in the overview and in the HUD view. Little Fistter |
Mel Lifera
Gallente Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lania Resvik Check your history, that war you are refering to wasnt racially motivated. It was started over state's rights, import tariff's and sectionalism. However because slavery is a very emotional subject and the emancipation proclamation was signed after the war was over people mistakenly assume that the war was fought over the issue of slavery. While slavery was one of the motivating issues for the souths secession it was not the only or the main one.
Wrong. The Civil War was entirely about slavery, and the myth that it wasn't was only invented and propagated after the war was over. To believe said myth, you have to be willing to ignore the documents all of the Southern states' legislatures published upon their secession, all of which identify slavery by name as the reason for their leaving, as well as a couple rather key speeches made by confederate government leaders which affirm same. While the rest of us "check our history", I suggest you stop watching Ted Turner movies about old bearded southern gentleman generals who were best buddies with their slaves.
But this has nothing to do with EVE. What were we supposed to be talking about again?
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Rotnac
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mel Lifera
Originally by: Lania Resvik Check your history, that war you are refering to wasnt racially motivated. It was started over state's rights, import tariff's and sectionalism. However because slavery is a very emotional subject and the emancipation proclamation was signed after the war was over people mistakenly assume that the war was fought over the issue of slavery. While slavery was one of the motivating issues for the souths secession it was not the only or the main one.
Wrong. The Civil War was entirely about slavery, and the myth that it wasn't was only invented and propagated after the war was over. To believe said myth, you have to be willing to ignore the documents all of the Southern states' legislatures published upon their secession, all of which identify slavery by name as the reason for their leaving, as well as a couple rather key speeches made by confederate government leaders which affirm same. While the rest of us "check our history", I suggest you stop watching Ted Turner movies about old bearded southern gentleman generals who were best buddies with their slaves.
But this has nothing to do with EVE. What were we supposed to be talking about again?
This is right. In fact, what's really great is that right up until VERY shortly before they broke away, they fought against states rights - wanting to crush northern states' rights to not turn over fugitive slaves, bare slavery, etc. Only when that started to come apart did they go truly pro states' rights. States' rights had little to do with the US civil war. Slavery and tariffs were the big issues.
Although again, this is a derail.
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Joeziah
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Posted - 2009.08.26 04:35:00 -
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Minmatar, filthy vermin the lot of them...
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.26 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Joeziah Minmatar, filthy vermin the lot of them...
Go suck a priest...
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.26 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Joeziah Minmatar, filthy vermin the lot of them...
Go suck a priest...
<3 Lana --- Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
MicroWarpdrive II
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.26 07:50:00 -
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i wonder what he said to make the guy this butthurt..
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Fourty Niner
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rotnac
Originally by: Mel Lifera
Originally by: Lania Resvik Check your history, that war you are refering to wasnt racially motivated. It was started over state's rights, import tariff's and sectionalism. However because slavery is a very emotional subject and the emancipation proclamation was signed after the war was over people mistakenly assume that the war was fought over the issue of slavery. While slavery was one of the motivating issues for the souths secession it was not the only or the main one.
Wrong. The Civil War was entirely about slavery, and the myth that it wasn't was only invented and propagated after the war was over. To believe said myth, you have to be willing to ignore the documents all of the Southern states' legislatures published upon their secession, all of which identify slavery by name as the reason for their leaving, as well as a couple rather key speeches made by confederate government leaders which affirm same. While the rest of us "check our history", I suggest you stop watching Ted Turner movies about old bearded southern gentleman generals who were best buddies with their slaves.
But this has nothing to do with EVE. What were we supposed to be talking about again?
This is right. In fact, what's really great is that right up until VERY shortly before they broke away, they fought against states rights - wanting to crush northern states' rights to not turn over fugitive slaves, bare slavery, etc. Only when that started to come apart did they go truly pro states' rights. States' rights had little to do with the US civil war. Slavery and tariffs were the big issues.
Although again, this is a derail.
The last northern state to abolish slavery was New Jersey the laws of that state retained slaves over a certain age as "apprentices for life" until the 13th Amendment in 1865, which in fact proved to be the actual end of slavery in New Jersey. I only post this in the hope of showing to BOTH sides in this argument that the civil war was a LOT more complicated than "slavery or NOT". Mel and Lania are both really right, the war was mostly about the federal governments RIGHT to impose Laws across the whole Union. HOWEVER the very very specific reason for the succession of the southern states was the breakdown of the acceptance into the union of states in Pairs (One free one Slave state) They went so far as to make California send one Pro-slave senator to balance that states "free" Nature. Then the Turnaround of Kansas from a slave state to a Free state put the balance totally out of whack. And the Slave states seeing a very real threat to their way of life, seceded from the union.
That is, Although Anti Slavery Legislation wasnĘt the reason for the succession, the inevitability of such legislation was.
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Aralieus
Amarr Traumark Logistics
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:27:00 -
[99]
Dude, white ppl are crazy -Ara |
Sabrina Al'Kian
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Sabrina Al''Kian on 26/08/2009 21:55:19 I feel inclined to correct a fallacy here.
Depending on the state, it's actually not allowed to use overtly racist speech. Though somewhat recent, the laws of at least Connecticut (and I believe a few other states) make it an arrestable offense to use "Hate Speech/Fighting Words". Essentially, any words spoken with the intention of eliciting violence/violent emotions are, in fact, against the law.
You have to remember that states have the right to impose higher restrictions on their populace. They cannot grant freedoms from Federal Law, but they can remove them under State Law.
So your comment about Free Speech granting you the right to racism is, depending on where you're from, fallacious.
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Zed Jackelope
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.08.27 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sabrina Al'Kian Edited by: Sabrina Al''Kian on 26/08/2009 21:55:19 I feel inclined to correct a fallacy here.
Depending on the state, it's actually not allowed to use overtly racist speech. Though somewhat recent, the laws of at least Connecticut (and I believe a few other states) make it an arrestable offense to use "Hate Speech/Fighting Words". Essentially, any words spoken with the intention of eliciting violence/violent emotions are, in fact, against the law.
You have to remember that states have the right to impose higher restrictions on their populace. They cannot grant freedoms from Federal Law, but they can remove them under State Law.
So your comment about Free Speech granting you the right to racism is, depending on where you're from, fallacious.
Constitutional law trumps any other law of the nation, and no law can be made that takes it away (which is why so many gun laws are getting repealed, 2a forever!). The right to free speech may not be removed under any circumstance. Constitutional law > Federal > State > Local. That's how the BS flows.
Also what you're thinking of is assault. And yes, in some places assault by itself may be an arrestable offense (in most, afaik, its only an arrestable offense if followed by battery.. hence being charged with assault & battery).
However, it is perfectly legal to say 'i hope you die you dirty ethnic slur'. It is not legal to say 'i'm going to beat you to a pulp' that is assault. adding an ethnic slur, depending on local laws, then makes it a hate crime.
of course, if you say 'i hope you die you dirty slur', and they're found dead the next day.. well, that makes you a prime suspect, with a racist motive. sucks to be you! Sig removed for discussing moderation. Zymurgist
I wasn't aware one could have a discussion within a signature. Possum
Get the hell out of my sig. Zed |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.27 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Torrin on 27/08/2009 02:22:57
Originally by: Zed Jackelope
Originally by: Sabrina Al'Kian Some **** about US law
Some other **** about US law
I forget... Where is CCP located? And where are the servers located??
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Zed Jackelope
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.08.27 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Edited by: Lana Torrin on 27/08/2009 02:22:57
Originally by: Zed Jackelope
Originally by: Sabrina Al'Kian Some **** about US law
Some other **** about US law
I forget... Where is CCP located? And where are the servers located??
I've already covered that. Sig removed for discussing moderation. Zymurgist
I wasn't aware one could have a discussion within a signature. Possum
Get the hell out of my sig. Zed |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.27 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zed Jackelope
Originally by: Lana Torrin Edited by: Lana Torrin on 27/08/2009 02:22:57
Originally by: Zed Jackelope
Originally by: Sabrina Al'Kian Some **** about US law
Some other **** about US law
I forget... Where is CCP located? And where are the servers located??
I've already covered that.
Good.. So do you want to shut the hell up about an amendment that doesn't apply to a constitution that has nothing to do with a game that we are supposed to be talking about? Or you know, go to out of pod and discuss it there..
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Zed Jackelope
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.08.27 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Good.. So do you want to shut the hell up about an amendment that doesn't apply to a constitution that has nothing to do with a game that we are supposed to be talking about? Or you know, go to out of pod and discuss it there..
no
but please.. keep bumping the thread so more will reply with absurd notions of how the US constitution works. Sig removed for discussing moderation. Zymurgist
I wasn't aware one could have a discussion within a signature. Possum
Get the hell out of my sig. Zed |
Sworn Absent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.27 03:33:00 -
[106]
just thought i'd pop into this thread to say that I don't care about any of this at all
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.27 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zed Jackelope
Originally by: Lana Torrin Good.. So do you want to shut the hell up about an amendment that doesn't apply to a constitution that has nothing to do with a game that we are supposed to be talking about? Or you know, go to out of pod and discuss it there..
no
but please.. keep bumping the thread so more will reply with absurd notions of how the US constitution works.
You know im gona....
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Leo Hornet
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: M'ing Pai Confirming southern girls are the best girls.
+10 on this .. Some of them should be called 'Head Surgeons' ..! (the reason im married!)
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DevyKee
Amarr Harmless Plebs
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:42:00 -
[109]
Big, massive, epic YAWN........
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Fossil Wolf
omen. Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:14:00 -
[110]
THE PIRATE BAY WILL NOT FALL
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:35:00 -
[111]
@OP: I suggest you petition it. Posting here accomplishes almost nothing.
Considering I once got a 24h in-game chat gag for typing the F-word in local, I think dicipline has gone downhill somewhat.
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Sasha Black
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:18:00 -
[112]
I cant tell the difference between goons and southern hics anyway.
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Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:20:00 -
[113]
You can always wardec the GOONS, I hear wardec'ing works. _________________________________________________
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Jayder
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:20:00 -
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Short version: The south didn't have to be right for the north to be wrong.
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Mel Lifera
Gallente Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:13:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Jayder Short version: The south didn't have to be right for the north to be wrong.
Completion: This point is moot, however, because the north was right.
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Shobon Welp
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:26:00 -
[116]
Crime and Punishment: Politics Chat
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Kate Yeats
Caldari Stand and Deliver
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Black I cant tell the difference between goons and southern hics anyway.
Well that's easy, Rednecks actually go out in the sun.
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VCBee2888
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:02:00 -
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Jayder
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mel Lifera
Originally by: Jayder Short version: The south didn't have to be right for the north to be wrong.
Completion: This point is moot, however, because the north was right.
The federal government only has the 19 powers enumerated to it by the constitution, the same constitution which relegates any and all remaining (unwritten) rights to the states and then to the people. It does not include the right to force the sovereign states to remain part of the union which they joined voluntarily, although it is certainly in their best interest to.
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verde shrimp
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:26:00 -
[120]
We have gotten to the bottom of this and while this is a serious problem we are too busy ratting bloods too do anything about it.
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