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Crystal Sevar	Posted - 2009.08.23 18:36:00 - [1] Hey, I was just looking to get an opinion on this from someone who knows a bit more about the game. I'll be going to South Korea soon and I won't be logging into EvE for quite a while. Before I leave, I'll pay for 30 days and start training either Battlecruisers V(23d) or Caldari Battleship V(30d). But I'm torn.. The skill that doesn't get picked won't get trained for a long time, because once I return I have a looong list of other support skills to do. So, which one would I benefit from more? I plan to do missions and look for a corp to maybe get into some PvP action later. I heard the best PvP Raven is the one that stays in the station, while I've heard that drake can be a powerful part of a fleet.. So, which one? X_X
Lukriss Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.08.23 18:44:00 - [2] Get battleships (imo) Armor tanked torp raven can be useful in rr bs gangs Rokh is an awesome fleet ship and if you like running missions, then getting that extra level for your cnr is always awesome :) Originally by: Redloc I want to gank hulks in high sec! I have a dedicated miner account so I have the funds to throw away.
ShoreTay	Posted - 2009.08.23 19:45:00 - [3] BS V, it leads to Caps, Golem, etc. If you have good leadership skills and want to train for a CS, you may want to Train BC V.
SheriffFruitfly Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.23 19:48:00 - [4] Neither is a much of goal in and of itself - both are useful for what they lead to. If you want command ships first, do bc5. If you want t2 bs or caps first, do bs5. BS5 opens more doors (fully or partially) than bc5. __________________________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Velin Shade	Posted - 2009.08.24 08:02:00 - [5] Most people get more use out of battle cruisers than battleships in pvp. As you don't seem to have that much pvp experience, you probably won't be flying battleships into combat for some time - especially, if you have a "looong list of other support skills to do." Also, the great thing about BCV is that it works with all race's battle cruisers - it's one of the most useful level Vs within spaceship command, imo. For pve, though, I would definitely go with BSV, but you're going to want them both in the end.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.08.24 09:10:00 - [6] Battleship V.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.08.24 10:01:00 - [7] Battleships are for sissies, so BC V… …or even a second Cruiser V. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.24 12:26:00 - [8] BC if your are going to crosstrain BS if you want to get into cap ships
Crystal Sevar	Posted - 2009.08.24 14:03:00 - [9] I think I've moved 75/25 towards battlecruisers, eventhough it appears you guys are just as divided about it as I am :p
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.08.24 14:26:00 - [10] Originally by: Crystal Sevar I think I've moved 75/25 towards battlecruisers, eventhough it appears you guys are just as divided about it as I am :p You'll eventually train both anyway, so just pick whichever fits how long you're going to be AFK for. If you're gonna be away 22 days or less, then BC V, 23 days or more: BS V

Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.24 16:09:00 - [11] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Crystal Sevar I think I've moved 75/25 towards battlecruisers, eventhough it appears you guys are just as divided about it as I am :p You'll eventually train both anyway, so just pick whichever fits how long you're going to be AFK for. If you're gonna be away 22 days or less, then BC V, 23 days or more: BS V Seconded
Draulin Gallente Independent Faction	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:08:00 - [12] I'm training for Command Ships, and don't like Battleships, so my answer is obviously Battlecruisers V.
Alsyth Astromechanica Maxima	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Draulin I'm training for Command Ships, and don't like Battleships, so my answer is obviously Battlecruisers V. The same (I don't even plan on learning any BS skill for my 2 years skillplan...) Besides, I like crosstraining. So BC is good, it applies to every race of ship.
Patrice Macmahon EVE Radio Fan Club	Posted - 2009.08.25 00:17:00 - [14] I just did level V to BC, but then again, I didn't want to spend all the extra time training for BS sized weapons (another 30+ days for just the T2 guns for mission running), when pushing my Mrmidon to level V really helped survivability for level IV missions... For me it was a time saver as now my level IV's are smooth (though slow) and I can focus on my core certs and leadership support skills. Its the time trade off, what else do you have to train to make it worth while compared to what you want too do. The Intakis have an obligation to defend the Federation, but not to assult others on its behalf.
Darthewok Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.25 01:30:00 - [15] Instead train Large Hybrid Turret V if you can. Don't be one of those Caldari without gun skills in PVP. It limits your options to only a handful of viable ships. A BS IV or BC IV with T2 guns >>>> BS V or BC V with T1 guns. And if you have the gun skills you can easily cross train to Gallente to fly the Brutix and Mega as they also use Hybrids. It will open up your PVP options far more than BC or BS V. Unless you are going for caps, in which case BS V.
Roemy Schneider Vanishing Point.	Posted - 2009.08.25 11:38:00 - [16] BC V and siege warfare skills. rather be a useful caldari and give shield bonuses to carriers etc than trying desperately trying to justify missiles - and then flooding the forum with "boost missiles"-threads
Vee Zee	Posted - 2009.08.25 12:07:00 - [17] Edited by: Vee Zee on 25/08/2009 12:08:02 Missiles are fine (sans rockets). I just finished my 4th BS 5 last night, so I say get both
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.08.25 14:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Roemy Schneider BC V and siege warfare skills. rather be a useful caldari and give shield bonuses to carriers etc than trying desperately trying to justify missiles - and then flooding the forum with "boost missiles"-threads This from a guy who has artillery as his sniper weapon.
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2009.08.25 15:33:00 - [19] Since you fly Caldari I say BS5.
Connner Minmatar	Posted - 2009.08.25 18:22:00 - [20] Depends on your goal in the long run. IMO since you are Caldari I'd go for BCV since that would unlock the Nighthawk which is a very sweet command ship, especially if you are a mission runner.

Devine13 Nomad LLP	Posted - 2009.08.25 20:54:00 - [21] Edited by: Devine13 on 25/08/2009 20:54:53 Originally by: Mashie Saldana Since you fly Caldari I say BS5. Thing is though, that if you train BC V you have max bonuses with any race's battlecruiser. But I agree with one of the above posters, saying that if you're leaving for > 23 days train BS, and if not train BC.
Bronnwynn Minmatar Cobalt Dragon Exploration Company	Posted - 2009.08.25 21:27:00 - [22] I would TOTALLY go for Battlecruisers. It'll allow crosstraining to other races MUCH easier. For PvP Battlecruisers are easier and cheaper. Unless you plan to be a capital pilot, it would be generally advisable to do a BC, even for missions- they can do anything short of a L5 alone, where most BSs can't do alone.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:46:00 - [23] BC5 gets you 8 ships maxed-out (plus access to another 8 ships, the command ships, with a bit of additional training). BS5 gets you 3 ships maxed-out (plus access to another 1 ship soon - the marauder, and up to 5 more with a lot of additional training and ISK cost for the fifth - black ops and the racial capitals). Unless you're really dead-set on getting a capital ship, or really want a marauder for PvE, or maybe really, really need to squeeze out every last bit of performance out of your BS for fleet PvP... I'd say go with BC5 first. _ Info about our corp \| Beginer's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper
Zhilia Mann	Posted - 2009.08.25 23:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Tippia Battleships are for sissies, so BC Và àor even a second Cruiser V. When I left the country for three months, I trained two cruisers to V and just made sure I could swap things out at some point in the middle. Never looked back. Since then, BC5 has been an amazing boon. About to hop into a Harbi once I finish medium pulse specs just because I can. Swapping between a Drake, an occasional Ferox, a NH I love dearly, a Brutix, and the now-not-so-great Myrm has provided much variety and fun. Oh, and I didn't hop into my first BS until my main was nearly five years old and the BS skill was at 4 with good support. It can be done; I've just found more use from cruisers and BCs.
Mahke Aeon Of Strife	Posted - 2009.08.25 23:23:00 - [25] As a general rule of thumb for all races: BS V for PVE. BC V for PVP. Other people have said go BS because you are caldari; I think the exact opposite: go BC because you are caldari. Raven doesn't get hugely better for pve with lvl 5 (although its nice), rokh needs gunnery skills you probably don't have, and the scorpion (which used to be worth getting caldari BS V for alone) is weaker now than it once was. The Drake, on the other hand, DOES benefit hugely from that extra level, and is one of the best ships in the game for small and medium gang work for the cost. It can be cheap-fitted and lost for a negligible amount or fully t2/gank fit and rigged out for a better-than-BS tank and decent anti-support damage. Also, it has its uses for pve too (as does the nighthawk if you want to go that route).
Draulin Gallente Independent Faction	Posted - 2009.08.26 23:32:00 - [26] The BS for PvE isn't a hard rule. I run L4s all the time in a BC.
Foreboding Hawk	Posted - 2009.08.27 06:19:00 - [27] If capitals are a goal, definitely BS V. Personally, I'd go with BS V anyways, since it fits the time better, and wastes less training time. Always time to do BC V later :)
Crystal Sevar	Posted - 2009.08.27 09:56:00 - [28] Well, I just started training 23hrs 50 minutes worth of other skills and then added BC V after it. I'll be unplugging my interwebz now and won't be able to change anything untill I come back, hope I made the right choice. Thanks for all the opinions!
MaxxOmega Caldari Rukongai Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.08.29 17:13:00 - [29] It's probably too late but why not have a plan and give it to a trusted friend to make sure training continues while you are away???
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.08.29 21:07:00 - [30] Originally by: MaxxOmega It's probably too late but why not have a plan and give it to a trusted friend to make sure training continues while you are away??? Apart from being against the EULA?



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