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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente
Hybrid Stigmata
EVESpace
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:39:00 -
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So for a long time EVE has defied MMO trends and continued to increase its subscriber base. This is, of course, because the players (and to some extent the devs) have been creating new content.
But EVE today, at least 0.0 EVE, is largely static. For the past 2 or 3 months, after the collapse of Kenny, nothing significant has changed on the sov map. A few minor alliances (looking at you IRC) have fail cascaded, the drone Russians have taken a few more systems, CVA has dropped some more stations, the NC has added a few more blues.
But nothing significant has changed; there have been no backstabs, no compromising spy leaks, not even any game-changing battles (there have been a few large cap battles, but thanks to the resources available to the alliances involved in said battles, the impact was actually slight).
I took a look at the recruitment forums today, and noticed that there were virtually no 0.0 alliances recruiting. A few unimportant NPC groups (like Blade.) were looking for fresh blood, and a few of the bottom tier pets were trying to expand their tax base. But there were none of posts I used to see during the Delve war, with Bob pets and NC pets all clamouring for new players.
The character bazaar, usually turning over pages at a breakneck pace, was moving sluggishly. Posts from yesterday could be seen on the front page. Few auctions had more than one or two bids.
And in a final testament to this malaise, timecode prices have evidently dropped almost a hundred mil from their high.
Maybe DUST will fix this, maybe CCP can find some other way of encouraging people to keep playing this game. But without heroes and villains and wars of 10,000 player coaliions, there isn't much reason to keep logging in each day.
Eve is dying. Both powerblocks are sitting on their hands waiting for the other to make the first move. Meanwhile their players stop logging in.
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente
Hybrid Stigmata
EVESpace
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:40:00 -
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in b4 wall of text 
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SK Rooster
Gallente
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:41:00 -
[3]
first confirm eve is dying
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:44:00 -
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It is like this every year, then September comes and something changes, like last year Goons losing 90% of its land, TCF getting humilated and moving north, just wait a few weeks things will change.
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Juilus Carnius
Caldari
Powerthirst inc.
Exiliar Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:46:00 -
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with op's like this eve will never die
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Ahistaja
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:47:00 -
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at last, the final solution is at hand and goons will be victorious
also Hybrid Stigmata is a p. cool dimmu borgir tune, way to play lots of metal all the time i'm sure the chicks love it
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FarmerJimbo
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:48:00 -
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I final solution you dumb one. 
Why can't we all just get along and mine in harmony?
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente
Hybrid Stigmata
EVESpace
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Ahistaja
at last, the final solution is at hand and goons will be victorious
also Hybrid Stigmata is a p. cool dimmu borgir tune, way to play lots of metal all the time i'm sure the chicks love it
Whoa, I never even clued in on that.
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SquadBroken
Amarr
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition
It is like this every year, then September comes and something changes, like last year Goons losing 90% of its land, TCF getting humilated and moving north, just wait a few weeks things will change.
Hi aneu! 
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Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:16:00 -
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Paging Spiffy Sunkist for the Rainbow visual!!!
Dr. Shot
Just sayin..... |
Space Cowboi
Amarr
Joint Ventures Limited
Ventures
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:20:00 -
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This is GAME
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Space Cowboi
This is GAME
Goons
Aligning,
Majority of
Eden
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Juilus Carnius
Caldari
Powerthirst inc.
Exiliar Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition
Originally by: Space Cowboi
This is GAME
Goons
Aligning,
Majority of
Eden
I see what you did there, nice word games.
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Viceroy Defilus
Amarr
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:32:00 -
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I've never played EVE so i don't know what you're talking about
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SquadBroken
Amarr
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:05:00 -
[15]
Paging "leaving eve" to this thread.
Is the character name "eve is dying" taken yet?
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Psilocin
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:08:00 -
[16]
Can I have your stuff?
FOFOFOOOO! |
Barak Tor
Minmatar
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:32:00 -
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confirming that 0.0 pvp is dead, there are no fights to be had.
Its 100% static
no roams
no fleet fights
everyone is blue and we mine and run pirate missions and rat together
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Dynast
Gallente
Eve Defence Force
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Master Mnemosyne
Maybe DUST will fix this, maybe CCP can find some other way of encouraging people to keep playing this game. But without heroes and villains and wars of 10,000 player coaliions, there isn't much reason to keep logging in each day.
Eve is dying. Both powerblocks are sitting on their hands waiting for the other to make the first move. Meanwhile their players stop logging in.
For most players, the game isn't in null sec. Something like nine in ten players do other things, and most of them care only peripherally about 0.0 goings-on. Most of them don't read the boards or care about board-spam either, and don't have anything to do with major alliance "heroes and villains".. they're their own heroes, and their villains are the can-flippers, freelance salvagers, and war-deccers.
PLEX/timecode prices were inflated and are adjusting naturally to fall in line with the actual demand for their use, as upwards speculation has run it's course for now. There's actually a dev blog regarding this.
Your case for the iminent demise of EVE is not compelling.
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VCBee2888
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:39:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Barak Tor
confirming that 0.0 pvp is dead, there are no fights to be had.
Its 100% static
no roams
no fleet fights
everyone is blue and we mine and run pirate missions and rat together
We're all friends now |
Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dynast
Originally by: Master Mnemosyne
Maybe DUST will fix this, maybe CCP can find some other way of encouraging people to keep playing this game. But without heroes and villains and wars of 10,000 player coaliions, there isn't much reason to keep logging in each day.
Eve is dying. Both powerblocks are sitting on their hands waiting for the other to make the first move. Meanwhile their players stop logging in.
For most players, the game isn't in null sec. Something like nine in ten players do other things, and most of them care only peripherally about 0.0 goings-on. Most of them don't read the boards or care about board-spam either, and don't have anything to do with major alliance "heroes and villains".. they're their own heroes, and their villains are the can-flippers, freelance salvagers, and war-deccers.
PLEX/timecode prices were inflated and are adjusting naturally to fall in line with the actual demand for their use, as upwards speculation has run it's course for now. There's actually a dev blog regarding this.
Your case for the iminent demise of EVE is not compelling.
Yup this pretty much sums it up, 0.0 isnt as popular as 0.0 alliance make it out to be, while the activity is high there sometimes majority of even 0.0 alliances remain in empire. However saying that it would be nice for a decent 'drama' in 0.0, after BoB went MIA it has been pretty boring and C&P are far more entertaining than the 'I BLUE you' drama in 0.0.
I dont see EvE dying, in fact it has increased in popularity over the past year and offers more that other MMOs, but I do see 0.0 losing its popularity, after all nothing but name calling and NAPs happen there,..
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Gallente
R.E.C.O.N.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:50:00 -
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what you say about 0.0 is true.
but eve has a large empire player base. large enough to still be profitable for ccp.
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:58:00 -
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0.0 is a means to an end tbh, but that doesnt mean I dont like it, it does work well with RL history of commanding and conquering with propaganda deception and lies, I just hope it doesnt turn into RL where everyone holds hands and tells make out stories in their underwear, but it seems it may be leeding to that.
Real piracy and action happens within empire, 0.0 generally became popular through verite, people wish to grow their own empite but fail to pay attention to what needs to be resized ;)
Eitherway EvE isnt dead nor will be dying for a VERY long time,..
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Artarius Bourn
Caldari
Archangels Assault Force
Drunk and Stoned
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:04:00 -
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Hey our unknown, no good, lousy, lazy alliance just lost the last non goon system in delve. Everything has changed, this is like bigger news than Brittney spears eating one of her kids, True Story.
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Artarius Bourn
Hey our unknown, no good, lousy, lazy alliance just lost the last non goon system in delve. Everything has changed, this is like bigger news than Brittney spears eating one of her kids, True Story.
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MoonsOverMyHammy
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:12:00 -
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0.0 is run by the same oligarchy that has run it since sov was implemented only the alliance names have changed sorry 
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Ekon Bor
Amarr
Van Diemen's Demise
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ekon Bor on 26/08/2009 03:25:32
I assume (and acknowledge that it's only part of your argument) that one of the reasons GTC's might have fallen in price is this whole Unholy Rage (idiotic name btw) mass-ban thing? If that's working (and I have nfi whether it is or not) then that would presumably mean, less black isk is available; and so the price of isk, both legit and otherwise, rises - so what you get for a GTC on-market goes down?
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Phreeze
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:28:00 -
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Just in time too, once the napfest conquers all of 0.0, we can all quit and go play The Old Republic.
Russians will be sith ofc (you are evil ) NC will be high-minded jedi because we are gay, and goons will be bounty hunters running around killing everything.
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Andreno
Gallente
The Ineni Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:33:00 -
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People! TO THE ESCAPE PODS! WE MUST FLEE THE END!
Now for a serious response:
I've never been a 0.0 PvPer (re: IMA CAREBEAR), but I've always enjoyed playing EVE's Empire side. Then, one day, I discovered wormholes and the game was re-invented for me. So quit whining because your favorite part of EVE is stale because people have consolidated their power. That's how both life and EVE work. The most you can hope for now is for CCP to go all anti-trust on their asses and do a forced Sov reset. That'd make things really hilarious.
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente
Hybrid Stigmata
EVESpace
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:38:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Psilocin
Can I have your stuff?
I think my account expires in about ten minutes and I cba to log in (or renew), so no.
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente
Hybrid Stigmata
EVESpace
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
what you say about 0.0 is true.
but eve has a large empire player base. large enough to still be profitable for ccp.
This may be the case, but how many of those empire accounts are actually alts (very much like this one ) of people who live in 0.0?
As well, one of the main selling points of Eve is the sandbox of 0.0, I think that's what attracts people to this game and generally motivates them, even if they spend almost the entirety of their game time in empire. CCP ignores 0.0 at their own risk.
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