Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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There were no 15 year old halo/BF n00bs griefing maps and wandering from place to place blasting anything moving. Why? Because if they did they'd get pwned very quickly. Then they would emo rage quit. (This happens all the time on eve-o).

So now talking about DUST we can say with some amount of evidence that FPS MMOs can work well. And there is structure and organization (that's the point afterall). A point I thought was given, but some people can't seem to wrap their head around console players that aren't nublet morons.

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Originally by: Mashie Saldana

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Hi Mashie here,

I like this thread, there are many like it but this one is yours.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Originally by: Signature

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Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.

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Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Care to direct me to the CCP statement?

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Originally by: Nika Dekaia

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Nice to have a positive thread on the few facts we have without jumping to conclusions and "OMG EVE is dieing!!!111" rabble.

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Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Care to direct me to the CCP statement?

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Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Care to direct me to the CCP statement?

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Originally by: Sabriele

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Originally by: Nika Dekaia

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Nice to have a positive thread on the few facts we have without jumping to conclusions and "OMG EVE is dieing!!!111" rabble.

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eve IS dying, its because of DUST because they said it controls SOV, so all of gallente starter areas are belong to caldari.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Hi Lock here,

I didn't bother reading one bit of this dust thread as I'm quite positive somebody has asked what you have asked and stated what you have stated in the multitude of dust threads now.
There are some massive Dust threads in OOPE where you may find what you are looking for as dust threads got moved there a while back so the denizens of GD didn't have to put up with them.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Remember what you asked for though CCP statements. I challenge you to find a CCP statement that proves me wrong.

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Originally by: Signature

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Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.

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Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Edit: The cherry on top: Keynote speech said dust was developed at CCP Shanghai, the one I linked for the winner says WoD is developed at CCP Atlanta.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Hi Lock here,

I didn't bother reading one bit of this dust thread as I'm quite positive somebody has asked what you have asked and stated what you have stated in the multitude of dust threads now.
There are some massive Dust threads in OOPE where you may find what you are looking for as dust threads got moved there a while back so the denizens of GD didn't have to put up with them.

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... and now have relaxed that restriction now that the post patch forum fury is over.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Hi Lock here,

I didn't bother reading one bit of this dust thread as I'm quite positive somebody has asked what you have asked and stated what you have stated in the multitude of dust threads now.
There are some massive Dust threads in OOPE where you may find what you are looking for as dust threads got moved there a while back so the denizens of GD didn't have to put up with them.

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... and now have relaxed that restriction now that the post patch forum fury is over.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Did I say read the sticky !!!1one1!!!? No?

Did I mention that there are several threads in OOPE that most likely have the information that he has displayed because the mods moved them there a while back and never moved them back.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Originally by: Joe Skellington

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Edited by: Joe Skellington on 26/08/2009 17:24:57

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly.

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Which sucks, because they have been promising planetary interaction for EVE, and even showed demos of it. All the while working in secret on a console game. So we get cheated out of more content that was promised to us. That is why most of the people I know are ****ed.

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Originally by: Doomed Predator

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Wait until fanfest and then shout that EVE is dead. Before that it's all wild speculation.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Edited by: Wulfnor on 26/08/2009 17:55:04

Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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... and now have relaxed that restriction now that the post patch forum fury is over.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Did I say read the sticky !!!1one1!!!? No?

Did I mention that there are several threads in OOPE that most likely have the information that he has displayed because the mods moved them there a while back and never moved them back.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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How you can be any kinda positive about something you proudly proclaim you did not read, then to go on and give people a pro tip to read before commenting on things makes me wonder how valid anything you write might be.

if you wish to point people to some area there is some else to read on the topic then do so. The rest of what you have written is a distraction at best.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Edited by: Wulfnor on 26/08/2009 17:55:04

Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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... and now have relaxed that restriction now that the post patch forum fury is over.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Did I say read the sticky !!!1one1!!!? No?

Did I mention that there are several threads in OOPE that most likely have the information that he has displayed because the mods moved them there a while back and never moved them back.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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How you can be any kinda positive about something you proudly proclaim you did not read, then to go on and give people a pro tip to read before commenting on things makes me wonder how valid anything you write might be.

if you wish to point people to some area there is some else to read on the topic then do so. The rest of what you have written is a distraction at best.

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I'm all kinds of positive. In fact I'm positive you don't have a clue as to what is even being discussed. But its people like you that makes these forums so enjoyable to read. NEXT!

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Originally by: Joe Skellington

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Edited by: Joe Skellington on 26/08/2009 17:24:57

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly.

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Which sucks, because they have been promising planetary interaction for EVE, and even showed demos of it. All the while working in secret on a console game. So we get cheated out of more content that was promised to us. That is why most of the people I know are ****ed.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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And people like you who make them not enjoyable.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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And people like you who make them not enjoyable.

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aaawwww would you like a hug?

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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aaawwww would you like a hug?

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and the thought that you are keeping a thread whose opening post you did not read and you apparently think is worthless, at the top of the section makes me smile.

So feel free to keep posting :)

Originally by: Wulfnor

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Edited by: Wulfnor on 26/08/2009 18:54:39

Originally by: THE L0CK

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aaawwww would you like a hug?

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and the thought that you are keeping a thread whose opening post you did not read and you apparently think is worthless, at the top of the section makes me smile.

So feel free to keep posting :)

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Originally by: Joe Skellington

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly.

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Which sucks, because they have been promising planetary interaction for EVE, and even showed demos of it. All the while working in secret on a console game. So we get cheated out of more content that was promised to us. That is why most of the people I know are ****ed.

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Right... Cheated out of what exactly? You'll get your planetary interaction in eve, as promised. I guess it's like always though. It's not EXACTLY like you imagined so lets come whine about it. CCP didn't do this, BECAUSE OF FALCON!, my life is ruined, emo emo. I can't cope with a world of change omg.

No credence to the fact that it's literally some of the biggest news out of CEP. Or that the concept is more or less an entirely new innovation in gaming. I guess it's easy to forget that CCP has the largest persistent gaming world ever. Or that they've engineered a place that's breaking rl gaming records and preconceptions all the time. Apparently, eve at least meets enough of your expectations that you're worried about it being ruined. That's an accomplishment in itself. But it doesn't matter does it?

None of that factors in. What does though is that you don't have a console, but you desperately want to shoot something. Your perfect world where you leave your pod to go play star wars or earth and beyond or wow on a planet in eve is ruined.

crymore.

I think you and your mad friends should fly into lowsec and sit at planet one in evati in protest. Then when you're all popped and podded ragequit and be done with it.

Hey, maybe you can go make the game you were thinking about after leaving such a terrible game behind. And such a wretched game company like CCP who *gasp* denies you the ability to play another clone version of Battlefield 2 with an eve twist. Yeah the same CCP that won't put more lvl4 faction missions in high sec that overpay, and doesn't allow warp bubbles on lowsec gates. The same CCP who cheated you out of 0.0 because it was all napped up with bigger stronger alliances they "obviously" favor. The same people who added jump drives but you don't have enough skill points to use them. What a shame they exist. So absent of common sense. If you only had everything your way none of this would have happened. You could swoop down to a planet and blow everyone up with your missiles then parachute out and axe some guy with your halberd. Then use magic and sheep the next guy. Then get back in your spaceship and teleport to delve and mine your moon for buried pirate treasure!

I'm sure you could have done so much better than CCP. It's really too bad... really.

As for my ultimate personal feeling about DUST (which is inferior to the game you would have made) I think someone else said it best.

Originally by: Doomed Predator

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Wait until fanfest and then shout that EVE is dead. Before that it's all wild speculation.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Edited by: Wulfnor on 26/08/2009 18:54:39

Originally by: THE L0CK

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aaawwww would you like a hug?

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and the thought that you are keeping a thread whose opening post you did not read and you apparently think is worthless, at the top of the section makes me smile.

So feel free to keep posting :)

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Point to where I said it was worthless. All I said was that I didn't read it because what he stated has most likely been said or done in one of the mega threads that were moved to OOPE.
Further proof it seems that you have no clue what is going on. Sorry to burst your bubble like that as I'm sure you felt that post was a clever one, but keep your chin up young padawan, you may be witty yet.

Also L2properlyquote

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Point to where I said it was worthless. All I said was that I didn't read it because what he stated has most likely been said or done in one of the mega threads that were moved to OOPE.
Further proof it seems that you have no clue what is going on. Sorry to burst your bubble like that as I'm sure you felt that post was a clever one, but keep your chin up young padawan, you may be witty yet.

Also L2properlyquote

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Didn't read it but then went on later to point out that people should read things before posting.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Point to where I said it was worthless. All I said was that I didn't read it because what he stated has most likely been said or done in one of the mega threads that were moved to OOPE.
Further proof it seems that you have no clue what is going on. Sorry to burst your bubble like that as I'm sure you felt that post was a clever one, but keep your chin up young padawan, you may be witty yet.

Also L2properlyquote

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Didn't read it but then went on later to point out that people should read things before posting.

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Its good advice and I highly recommend that you take it because you obviously have no idea why I even mentioned it, or should I say copy/pasted it (little clue for you).

Please, feel free to keep further derailing a thread, you are only contributing my cause.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Please, feel free to keep further derailing a thread, you are only contributing my cause.

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Originally by: Sabriele

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eve IS dying, its because of DUST because they said it controls SOV, so all of gallente starter areas are belong to caldari.

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Originally by: Professor Slocombe

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I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.

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Originally by: Myra2007

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I can't see how the op is any less based on a lot of speculations than any other dust thread so far. Which in turn would make the op a hypocrite.

I did like how he flamed the guy into the ground in post nr.26 though. Especially given how the flaming and ranting appears to be largely unrelated to what was actually put forth. It was a tad bit disproportionate but makes up in patronizing and presumptuous attitude.

The thing with overboarding sarcasm is that it makes you look butthurt eventually. I guess for the op this happened somewhere around page 1.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 13:59:23
Hello eve-o forums,

*rabble rabble rabble rabble*

Quiet down now please. Cat, we all known you're here. You can stop telling people you're here in the OP. It's kindof embarrassing.

OK! So there's this new game DUST. I'm sure you've read the other 2 million threads about it and posted about how much you hate it. And then posted about how much you hate CCP. And then someone like me read your posts and felt pity for someone who'd pay a subscription to a game that they hate that they feel is going to be ruined every day because there was an eclipse, or snow fell on the north pole, or santa isn't real or whatever. Then I'd remember that you're the kind of person that writes the best hate mail! So, I thank whatever logic you use to stay in eve because the target practise is nice to have around.

Anyhow, so many of you hate it because it's a console game and you are FTL at consoles. Even that pimply 15 year old WoW addict can beat you every time you play halo. And god he's so annoying. I know... I really do.

So, let me explain why publications like Massively and Gamespot are so interested in DUST.

First of all CCP made eve. Here are some quotes to help you understand that.

"CCP projects the game will surpass 400,000 subscribers in two years, effectively doubling their current universe. So in the near future, they hope the population of their virtual world surpasses that of their native Iceland. And at some point in 2008, the number of player man-years spent inside EVE surpassed 250,000, which means more human effort has been spent in the construction of EVE's society than is estimated on the construction of the pyramids."

"Typical game companies won't discuss more than one expansion in the future, and build entire updates around new dungeons, races and classes. CCP plans to redo all the art in a nearly five year old game, fully integrate voice chat, launch a completely new avatar system, begin a democratically elected player advocacy council, launch the game on the Mac and Linux, reconfigure the game's base architecture and migrate it to a network of super computers and completely re-write two version's of the game's client to support new visuals and DirectX 10. This is just on the road map for the end of next year, it's all free and doesn't include actual gameplay improvements or any of their many side-projects, like a novel, EVE Web Wars, a trading card game and, of course, World of Darkness Online, a completely new AAA MMOG project."

Those quotes are over 2 years old so please take the last one with a grain of salt. Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD. Of course it was being kept completely secret at the time. Also they've accomplished all of this except for releasing WiS.

If you find it hard to feel that eve is badass at this point, or that CCP doesn't do anything you should stop reading now and go troll another thread.

Continuing.... So now CCP is making DUST. A game that will be an "MMO FPS". Something I've only heard of in one other game... Planetside. And the people who played it loved it. There were no 15 year old halo/BF n00bs griefing maps and wandering from place to place blasting anything moving. Why? Because if they did they'd get pwned very quickly. Then they would emo rage quit. (This happens all the time on eve-o).

So now talking about DUST we can say with some amount of evidence that FPS MMOs can work well. And there is structure and organization (that's the point afterall). A point I thought was given, but some people can't seem to wrap their head around console players that aren't nublet morons.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 14:05:36
Now add the Eve-DUST relationship. DUST players will be given a strong interest in accepting Alliance money to defend/attack planets. Alliances will need DUST players to take planets. Instead of buying a gun to "glass a planet" you buy an army and deploy them there. How much more control do you want? If you want to actually shoot stuff buy an Xbox or PS3 and join DUST.
IMHO paying actual players to do the shooting is FAR better than paying some NPC game of chance, which may have been another option. Get over it, and be glad you can purchase humans to take planets. Otherwise eve really would start to suck.

The ridiculousness of the idea of "console gamers having complete control over sov" is so silly I can't respond with a good rebuttal. Other than to say, that's not what the man said. He said "alliances pay them to ..." he didn't say "alliances will have no say in ...". This is inferring that ultimately eve alliances will have very good control over where and when forces are deployed. Their borders won't be reshaped by some lone nublet in DUST who decides to wander over to Goon space and take a single planet.

This relationship shows that CCP wants eve and Dust to be around for a long, long time. The "bold" move everyone talks about is them putting all of their eggs in one "IP" basket. If one fails/declines the other will take a turn for the worse as well. That's where the real gamble is, not in gameplay but in real life popularity. However, I think it's a refreshing take instead of the typical EA mantra of making as much money as you can at release, then dropping the game forever. CCP doesn't want to do that with eve. And that's a nod to all of your hard work. Unless a rl catastrophe requires it you won't wake up one morning to find that eve is down and won't ever come back up again. Just cause some accountant at CCP thought they'd make more money developing a separate game.

Finally, Console only. What is so hard about that? Those of you that own consoles know that your console buddies complain about the controls compared to a keyboard and mouse, in FPS at least. This is CCP being badass again. They care about the experience that console gamers get. They want them to participate in eve too but they don't want them to complain about getting owned just because some other guy has a kb and mouse. You can't fly a space ship in a console but you can shoot things in a console FPS. So it's a nod to console gamers and the things they value. Not PC players. This is a good thing.

Personally, I think it's also good that it's console only so that it prevents a mass exodus from eve. CCP has eve on the computer, they've got much of the computer crowd. A game like Eve is BEST played on a computer. I don't see what's so bad about an FPS to give the console people a chance. It'll make eve an extremely diverse MMO. CCP wants a game that complements eve, not a competitor.

Consoles WERE un-updateable and extremely constricting in 1994. That was before the "internet", and if you played computer games at the time you'd know computers were largely the same way. If you don't own an XBox stop chatting like an expert on how un-updateable they are. For game developers, consoles are a dream. You know the specs on every machine in 100% of your target. Everyone has the same os and runs the same code and the same programs. Those specs don't change so there's no guessing. This is a tremendous relief in some ways. For instance, in computer FPS cheating is a big problem with autoaims and metagame hacks. That's the reason we have punkbuster but it doesn't work 100% of the time. Many times it just eats up resources. With a console, though it's still possible it's not nearly as widespread and certainly harder to pull off. One less thing to fiddle with really.

Home run again!

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Is it too much to ask for a little cautious optimism?

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Hi Lock here,

I didn't bother reading one bit of this dust thread as I'm quite positive somebody has asked what you have asked and stated what you have stated in the multitude of dust threads now.
There are some massive Dust threads in OOPE where you may find what you are looking for as dust threads got moved there a while back so the denizens of GD didn't have to put up with them.

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... and now have relaxed that restriction now that the post patch forum fury is over.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Contrary to you I do read things before posting. It might be possible to understand why you made your first post, no matter how flawed it might be, but to follow on with advice to read before posting (something you admit you deliberately did not do) appears to be something you could better explain in a thread of your own if you are really concerned about derailing rather than bumping your post count.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Point to where I said it was worthless. All I said was that I didn't read it because what he stated has most likely been said or done in one of the mega threads that were moved to OOPE.
Further proof it seems that you have no clue what is going on. Sorry to burst your bubble like that as I'm sure you felt that post was a clever one, but keep your chin up young padawan, you may be witty yet.

Also L2properlyquote

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Didn't read it but then went on later to point out that people should read things before posting.

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Its good advice and I highly recommend that you take it because you obviously have no idea why I even mentioned it, or should I say copy/pasted it (little clue for you).

Please, feel free to keep further derailing a thread, you are only contributing my cause.

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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Neither do you, relative to the thread specifics (which you did not know at the time of your post as you had not read them). So, you came all the way into this thread to advise folks not to post on the general topic, the specific focus of which you knew not? And, you, then, conclude that those noting the absurdity of your "commentary" have no clue what's going on...?

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Like a true rebel without a clue you continue to not disappoint. I can make a new thread and continue to explain to you about reading before posting but what is the point, you haven't been able to understand it the first 3 times. You haven't a clue why I replied to the person that replied to me but you sure are hooked on muddying the waters yourself with this ongoing debate.

And why do people keep thinking I'm a Cat alt? That's the 5th time I've been accused of that.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Whoa... you are a cat alt.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Whoa... you are a cat alt.

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Got proof? Last I checked I was a FBIhomeland security alt.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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Neither do you, relative to the thread specifics (which you did not know at the time of your post as you had not read them). So, you came all the way into this thread to advise folks not to post on the general topic, the specific focus of which you knew not? And, you, then, conclude that those noting the absurdity of your "commentary" have no clue what's going on...?

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Show me where I advised people not to post on the general topic.

Man I love you guys and your wild and whacky accusations! Give me MOAR!!!

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 13:59:23

OK! So there's this new game DUST. I'm sure you've read the other 2 million threads about it and posted about how much you hate it. And then posted about how much you hate CCP. And then someone like me read your posts and felt pity for someone who'd pay a subscription to a game that they hate that they feel is going to be ruined every day because there was an eclipse, or snow fell on the north pole, or santa isn't real or whatever. Then I'd remember that you're the kind of person that writes the best hate mail! So, I thank whatever logic you use to stay in eve because the target practise is nice to have around.

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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So, your point for posting here was what? You pointed out threads on the subject being "moved" elsewhere why? You posted w/o reading the specific subject matter because of what?

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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Are you one of the Eve players complaining about a PC version (not being announced) because you think you can personally "John Rambo" your sector of space? The ones who think they'll jumpclone fully implanted into DUST and body bag us FPS DUST "boys?" Stop crying. Fire up your console and prepare.

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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You think this post's a waste of time? Then what would you classify your comments/presence herein?

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Contrary to you I do read things before posting. It might be possible to understand why you made your first post, no matter how flawed it might be, but to follow on with advice to read before posting (something you admit you deliberately did not do) appears to be something you could better explain in a thread of your own if you are really concerned about derailing rather than bumping your post count.

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Like a true rebel without a clue you continue to not disappoint. I can make a new thread and continue to explain to you about reading before posting but what is the point, you haven't been able to understand it the first 3 times. You haven't a clue why I replied to the person that replied to me but you sure are hooked on muddying the waters yourself with this ongoing debate.

And why do people keep thinking I'm a Cat alt? That's the 5th time I've been accused of that.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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And like a true clueless poster you continue to muddying the waters.

what you have said is clear: you did not read the op and posted about it but you advise everyone else to read before posting.

When you decide what you really mean, post it. I will read it before I reply :)

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 13:59:23

So now talking about DUST we can say with some amount of evidence that FPS MMOs can work well. And there is structure and organization (that's the point afterall). A point I thought was given, but some people can't seem to wrap their head around console players that aren't nublet morons.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Edited by: THE L0CK on 26/08/2009 22:28:21

Originally by: Wulfnor

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And like a true clueless poster you continue to muddying the waters.

what you have said is clear: you did not read the op and posted about it but you advise everyone else to read before posting.

When you decide what you really mean, post it. I will read it before I reply :)

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Show me where I advised everyone else. Last I recall I advised one person on a subject other than the OP. I believe this is where you are getting confused.

Also repeating me does not earn you points I'm afraid, you should try coming up with your own material.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 14:05:36

Personally, I think it's also good that it's console only so that it prevents a mass exodus from eve. CCP has eve on the computer, they've got much of the computer crowd. A game like Eve is BEST played on a computer. I don't see what's so bad about an FPS to give the console people a chance. It'll make eve an extremely diverse MMO. CCP wants a game that complements eve, not a competitor.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Edited by: THE L0CK on 26/08/2009 22:28:21

Originally by: Wulfnor

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And like a true clueless poster you continue to muddying the waters.

what you have said is clear: you did not read the op and posted about it but you advise everyone else to read before posting.

When you decide what you really mean, post it. I will read it before I reply :)

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Show me where I advised everyone else. Last I recall I advised one person on a subject other than the OP. I believe this is where you are getting confused.

Also repeating me does not earn you points I'm afraid, you should try coming up with your own material.

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Unlike you I am not aiming to collect points.

I don't recall any restrictions on your advice.
Original statement still stands:

How you can be any kinda positive about something you proudly proclaim you did not read, then to go on and give people a pro tip to read before commenting on things makes me wonder how valid anything you write might be.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Damn it, and I thought we were so close to getting you straighten out. But thanks for proving once again that you have no clue what I was talking about. Thank you and come again.

Protip: This whole discussion we've had, has exactly jack to do with the OP or anyone else including you. You may want to read before commenting next time.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Damn it, and I thought we were so close to getting you straighten out. But thanks for proving once again that you have no clue what I was talking about. Thank you and come again.

Protip: This whole discussion we've had, has exactly jack to do with the OP or anyone else including you. You may want to read before commenting next time.

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You are so close to understanding.
But thank You for once again showing you don't bother to read your own posts let alone those of others. Perhaps you just choose not to understand.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: CyberGh0st II

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 13:59:23

OK! So there's this new game DUST. I'm sure you've read the other 2 million threads about it and posted about how much you hate it. And then posted about how much you hate CCP. And then someone like me read your posts and felt pity for someone who'd pay a subscription to a game that they hate that they feel is going to be ruined every day because there was an eclipse, or snow fell on the north pole, or santa isn't real or whatever. Then I'd remember that you're the kind of person that writes the best hate mail! So, I thank whatever logic you use to stay in eve because the target practise is nice to have around.

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So you assume the people who don't like Dust514 will keep playing EVE?

Perhaps some will, but not me. My main just ran out ( I was sure that I paid for 3 months, but guess CCP messed that one up too :p ), and I will not resub untill I get more info on a PC version of Dust514 or other improvements on the current implementation ( for example WIS gets a release date and we can pwn the dusties from above ).

My alt will run out in a few weeks too.

So good luck with EVE, and no you can't have my stuff !

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Originally by: CyberGh0st II

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If they had integrated the whole Dust514 game into EVE, there would have been no reason to leave, only to join. And I am sure many would have joined.

They could have used WIS as a bridge between Dust514 and EVE ( they still can ), and allow the console players only to play Dust514 and WIS, while allowing EVE players to play everything.

Lastly cheating in FPS is overrated. And cheating in Panetside was not a problem at all.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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And he repeats me yet again. This dude's like one of those annoying little kids at the mall who mimics you for the nuisance factor.
I already told you, get your own material so you don't sound nearly as half wit.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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And he repeats me yet again. This dude's like one of those annoying little kids at the mall who mimics you for the nuisance factor.
I already told you, get your own material so you don't sound nearly as half wit.

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I think perhaps it is you are running out: I never tried.

How you can be any kinda positive about something you proudly proclaim you did not read, then to go on and give people a pro tip to read before commenting on things makes me wonder how valid anything you write might be.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 13:59:23

OK! So there's this new game DUST. I'm sure you've read the other 2 million threads about it and posted about how much you hate it. And then posted about how much you hate CCP. And then someone like me read your posts and felt pity for someone who'd pay a subscription to a game that they hate that they feel is going to be ruined every day because there was an eclipse, or snow fell on the north pole, or santa isn't real or whatever. Then I'd remember that you're the kind of person that writes the best hate mail! So, I thank whatever logic you use to stay in eve because the target practise is nice to have around.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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And he repeats me yet again. This dude's like one of those annoying little kids at the mall who mimics you for the nuisance factor.
I already told you, get your own material so you don't sound nearly as half wit.

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I think perhaps it is you are running out: I never tried.

How you can be any kinda positive about something you proudly proclaim you did not read, then to go on and give people a pro tip to read before commenting on things makes me wonder how valid anything you write might be.

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You never tried what? To think a coherent thought?

Let me type slower so you'll understand. As I said, I did not protip people, I protip'd the guy, as in singular action, who responded to me just as I protip'd you later on. It appears he got it, you on the other hand, well, you're just 'special'.
The protip has nothing to do with the OP, or other people, or even you, a third party that is arguing semantics over something he didn't even get the first time.

I understand my quote came from Whitehound, but I believe it applies to you as well. And for the love of god, don't repeat everything I said this time, show us you have the ability to formulate your own sentences.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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You really are special:) How you can read a thing over and over and get nothing out of it, is beyond me. Doesn't really matter does it. You still post about things you say you havent read but go on to advise others not to.

You would think this simple concept would get through to you. I am sure it will eventually and I will be here to watch it happen.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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You really are special:) How you can read a thing over and over and get nothing out of it, is beyond me. Doesn't really matter does it. You still post about things you say you havent read but go on to advise others not to.

You would think this simple concept would get through to you. I am sure it will eventually and I will be here to watch it happen.

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Sigh, the fail is so strong in this one. Whelp, I'm moving on.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 18:05:35

Originally by: Joe Skellington

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Edited by: Joe Skellington on 26/08/2009 17:24:57

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly.

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Which sucks, because they have been promising planetary interaction for EVE, and even showed demos of it. All the while working in secret on a console game. So we get cheated out of more content that was promised to us. That is why most of the people I know are ****ed.

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Right... Cheated out of what exactly? You'll get your planetary interaction in eve, as promised. I guess it's like always though. It's not EXACTLY like you imagined so lets come whine about it. CCP didn't do this, BECAUSE OF FALCON!, my life is ruined, emo emo. I can't cope with a world of change omg.

No credence to the fact that it's literally some of the biggest news out of CEP. Or that the concept is more or less an entirely new innovation in gaming. I guess it's easy to forget that CCP has the largest persistent gaming world ever. Or that they've engineered a place that's breaking rl gaming records and preconceptions all the time. Apparently, eve at least meets enough of your expectations that you're worried about it being ruined. That's an accomplishment in itself. But it doesn't matter does it?

None of that factors in. What does though is that you don't have a console, but you desperately want to shoot something. Your perfect world where you leave your pod to go play star wars or earth and beyond or wow on a planet in eve is ruined.

crymore.

I think you and your mad friends should fly into lowsec and sit at planet one in evati in protest. Then when you're all popped and podded ragequit and be done with it.

Hey, maybe you can go make the game you were thinking about after leaving such a terrible game behind. And such a wretched game company like CCP who *gasp* denies you the ability to play another clone version of Battlefield 2 with an eve twist. Yeah the same CCP that won't put more lvl4 faction missions in high sec that overpay, and doesn't allow warp bubbles on lowsec gates. The same CCP who cheated you out of 0.0 because it was all napped up with bigger stronger alliances they "obviously" favor. The same people who added jump drives but you don't have enough skill points to use them. What a shame they exist. So absent of common sense. If you only had everything your way none of this would have happened. You could swoop down to a planet and blow everyone up with your missiles then parachute out and axe some guy with your halberd. Then use magic and sheep the next guy. Then get back in your spaceship and teleport to delve and mine your moon for buried pirate treasure!

I'm sure you could have done so much better than CCP. It's really too bad... really.

As for my ultimate personal feeling about DUST (which is inferior to the game you would have made) I think someone else said it best.

Originally by: Doomed Predator

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Wait until fanfest and then shout that EVE is dead. Before that it's all wild speculation.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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And he repeats me yet again. This dude's like one of those annoying little kids at the mall who mimics you for the nuisance factor.
I already told you, get your own material so you don't sound nearly as half wit.

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I think perhaps it is you are running out: I never tried.

How you can be any kinda positive about something you proudly proclaim you did not read, then to go on and give people a pro tip to read before commenting on things makes me wonder how valid anything you write might be.

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You never tried what? To think a coherent thought?

Let me type slower so you'll understand. As I said, I did not protip people, I protip'd the guy, as in singular action, who responded to me just as I protip'd you later on. It appears he got it, you on the other hand, well, you're just 'special'.
The protip has nothing to do with the OP, or other people, or even you, a third party that is arguing semantics over something he didn't even get the first time.

I understand my quote came from Whitehound, but I believe it applies to you as well. And for the love of god, don't repeat everything I said this time, show us you have the ability to formulate your own sentences.

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Originally by: OOPS iJustBlasted

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DUST IS COMING!

RUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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Originally by: Akita T

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Seriously ?

...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !

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Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko

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Edited by: Taguchi Hiroko on 27/08/2009 01:10:01
CCP thinks making a EvE based Planetside is going to fix the sov mechanics problem (that POS shooting is boring and almost everyone in 0.0 is basically blue to one another), it won't. It's about as relevant as giving a man suffering from flu a pair of new shoes that's going to make him feel better.

It will bring in some cash for a couple of years and die quicker than Planetside. Console games last about 4-6 months. FPS is an old game concept and one of the most competitive gendre out in the market. To think that this will reinvograte something as original as EvE Online, well, perhaps CCP was not intending to do that anyways. Milking as much cash outta the dying cash cow while it lasts is probabily the better approach.

Hate to be the nay sayer, but that was my initial reaction to the DUST announcment.

EDIT: better just un-nerf nano tbfh.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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That's where the real gamble is, not in gameplay but in real life popularity.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Consoles WERE un-updateable and extremely constricting in 1994. That was before the "internet", and if you played computer games at the time you'd know computers were largely the same way.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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You can't fly a space ship in a console but you can shoot things in a console FPS. So it's a nod to console gamers and the things they value.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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At some point onlive http://www.onlive.com/ will be the mainstream way to console.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Wulfnor, I rather think that is possibly the best trolling of the troll I have ever seen, well done indeed.

Lock, as Wulfnor pointed out repeatedly, he was commenting on the absurdity of your post in general. It mattered not a wit who it was in response to. In your over the top efforts to look witty, you skillfully succeeded in making yourself look even more dim with each obtuse post.

If your original goal was to make yourself appear as a clueless twit who enjoys interjecting their uninformed opinion and (somewhat lame attempt at) humor into this thread, you have succeeded. However I suspect your goal was actually to be a condescending jerk to the OP and anyone else who thought the thread had merit. I do have to give you credit, you succeeded on that score as well.

I think its a little bit past time for you to run along and stop trying to derail this thread.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Wulfnor, I rather think that is possibly the best trolling of the troll I have ever seen, well done indeed.

Lock, as Wulfnor pointed out repeatedly, he was commenting on the absurdity of your post in general. It mattered not a wit who it was in response to. In your over the top efforts to look witty, you skillfully succeeded in making yourself look even more dim with each obtuse post.

If your original goal was to make yourself appear as a clueless twit who enjoys interjecting their uninformed opinion and (somewhat lame attempt at) humor into this thread, you have succeeded. However I suspect your goal was actually to be a condescending jerk to the OP and anyone else who thought the thread had merit. I do have to give you credit, you succeeded on that score as well.

I think its a little bit past time for you to run along and stop trying to derail this thread.

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Well I thought you understood it but I was wrong again. No I wasn't being a condescending jerk to the OP, I was being a condescending jerk to you. But as my daddy always told me you can't argue with stupid, it'll drag you to its level and beat you with experience as you and Wulfnor have done here.
It is sad that you think Wulfnors 5 year old mimicking covered your foot in mouth statement but to each his own I guess.

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Originally by: ChangWufei

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My personal opinion is that limiting the game to console users only is basically pointless and only going to annoy people. It's not like it means they wont have to fight people using a kb and mouse because you could just plug a kb and mouse in to your console. I don't see it makes all that much more work for them seeing as you have to make the game on a PC anyway and the company has a lot of experience in PC games already. The bad sides of the decision to go console only are obvious, it limits the market available to buy the game for one. The other bad side is that a lot of CCPs current customers may wish to play this game and don't want to have to spend loads of money on a console to do it.

Basically, it wont be hard to make it work on PC and it will increase the market and avoid angering a load of the current customers. I really, really hope they reconsider. Even with a kb and mouse I don't want to waste money on a console when every other game I've ever wanted to play has had a PC version. My EVE sub will also get cancelled as the only reason I've kept paying it for the last year or so is because I was expecting something like this to get added directly in to EVE for PC users.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Actually, you were being a "condescending jerk" to the OP before I even posted. Nice selective memory there. Your comments directed towards me are amusing but little more, I have small children at home so I am used to that level of commentary.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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A far as having my foot in my mouth, heh. I pointed out that there appeared to no longer be a need to repost this thread elsewhere,

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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and I explained why.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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I then pointed out that your post was fairly pointless.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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So far, all I see is agreement on both points. So again, it's past time for you to run along.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: CyberGh0st II

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 14:05:36

Personally, I think it's also good that it's console only so that it prevents a mass exodus from eve. CCP has eve on the computer, they've got much of the computer crowd. A game like Eve is BEST played on a computer. I don't see what's so bad about an FPS to give the console people a chance. It'll make eve an extremely diverse MMO. CCP wants a game that complements eve, not a competitor.

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If they had integrated the whole Dust514 game into EVE, there would have been no reason to leave, only to join. And I am sure many would have joined.

They could have used WIS as a bridge between Dust514 and EVE ( they still can ), and allow the console players only to play Dust514 and WIS, while allowing EVE players to play everything.

Lastly cheating in FPS is overrated. And cheating in Panetside was not a problem at all.

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See, ignorance is blind. And what if I don't leave, whatchu going to do about it Willis?

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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And for those who still think CCP is stupid, I'll add Star Trek Online as another MMO slated for both PCs and CONSOLES.

So, what do all the nay saying experts here know that these Devs., who are sacrificing millions on these projects, do not?

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: ShangoLianja Balogun

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And for those who still think CCP is stupid, I'll add Star Trek Online as another MMO slated for both PCs and CONSOLES.

So, what do all the nay saying experts here know that these Devs., who are sacrificing millions on these projects, do not?

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Hmm, I wonder when Blizzard is going to jump in on that action then.

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Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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That's where the real gamble is, not in gameplay but in real life popularity.

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Actually, gameplay will be largely affected since if Dust fails, the EVE economy will suffer greatly since the two economies will be dependent on each other. Not just the buying and selling of mercenary services but of actual items and resources.

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Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Consoles WERE un-updateable and extremely constricting in 1994. That was before the "internet", and if you played computer games at the time you'd know computers were largely the same way.

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It was not lack of Internet that necessarily made consoles un-updateable, it was also no Hard Drive. Albeit, consoles didn't get HDD's much later than they got internet, even the XBox had to sell over-priced proprietary HDD's and they only recently had tried to make a concerted effort to get their users on the same page with the HDD program they did. At least the PS3 came with one and for cheap since I can throw any notebook HDD in there and increase my storage space exponentially.

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Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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You can't fly a space ship in a console but you can shoot things in a console FPS. So it's a nod to console gamers and the things they value.

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Nonetheless, people who are actually GOOD at playing video games prefer PC shooters over FPS because they are just plain better. I had to go buy CoD4 for PC because I couldn't stand it on the PS3. On top of that, it had to have an auto-aim feature. You don't get that on PC. There's way more skill involved.

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Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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At some point onlive http://www.onlive.com/ will be the mainstream way to console.

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Maybe, but that is a remote maybe. The infrastructure (and affordability of that infrastructure) in the world (and mostly the US) currently doesn't even come close to making this a widespread, profitable option in any of the foreseeable, near futures.

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Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: ChangWufei

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My personal opinion is that limiting the game to console users only is basically pointless and only going to annoy people. It's not like it means they wont have to fight people using a kb and mouse because you could just plug a kb and mouse in to your console. I don't see it makes all that much more work for them seeing as you have to make the game on a PC anyway and the company has a lot of experience in PC games already. The bad sides of the decision to go console only are obvious, it limits the market available to buy the game for one. The other bad side is that a lot of CCPs current customers may wish to play this game and don't want to have to spend loads of money on a console to do it.

Basically, it wont be hard to make it work on PC and it will increase the market and avoid angering a load of the current customers. I really, really hope they reconsider. Even with a kb and mouse I don't want to waste money on a console when every other game I've ever wanted to play has had a PC version. My EVE sub will also get cancelled as the only reason I've kept paying it for the last year or so is because I was expecting something like this to get added directly in to EVE for PC users.

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Provided the game will support kb and mouse. Just becasue you can plug it in doesn't mean it will work.
You are right though that making it for PC would be easy. If you make a game for the XBox, porting it to PC isn't an issue.

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Originally by: Franco Caruso

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OP, best post I have read in a long long while.

/me tips his hat.

I would like to add my two cents thou.

CCP has stated that DUST will allow you to control sovreignty but not to what extent.

I would caution everybody into not thinking that "the console players" will be able to shape "the pc players" universe to that degree.

Interaction, yes. Complete control ... well, I think not ... at least I hope not.
I do not think that you will be able to control NPC sovreignty planets or space out of the blue.

And last but not least ... CCP has thrown so many features at us and we whined the crap out of them initially but in the end we use them all ( almost ). So once this whinestorm is ending ( not the OP one, but everything else ) and CCP is giving out details ( not facts ) I think that we will have a better, bigger and certainly more interesting universe.

Give CCP credit ... bad moves are not what they are used to do.
They taunt us ... they check our reaction, they smile, they adjust ... the make us happy the end of the day.

FC

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/08/2009 20:54:36

Originally by: Franco Caruso

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OP, best post I have read in a long long while.

/me tips his hat.

I would like to add my two cents thou.

CCP has stated that DUST will allow you to control sovreignty but not to what extent.

I would caution everybody into not thinking that "the console players" will be able to shape "the pc players" universe to that degree.

Interaction, yes. Complete control ... well, I think not ... at least I hope not.
I do not think that you will be able to control NPC sovreignty planets or space out of the blue.

And last but not least ... CCP has thrown so many features at us and we whined the crap out of them initially but in the end we use them all ( almost ). So once this whinestorm is ending ( not the OP one, but everything else ) and CCP is giving out details ( not facts ) I think that we will have a better, bigger and certainly more interesting universe.

Give CCP credit ... bad moves are not what they are used to do.
They taunt us ... they check our reaction, they smile, they adjust ... the make us happy the end of the day.

FC

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There's an excellent post also in GD about all the specifics verifiable about DUST. That will shed quite a bit of light on it for you. Namely, and obviously, is no, sov will not be solely determined by owning planets. Also there is a rumor that planetary sov will be given to eve before DUST is released as a way to get us used to it.
There's much more where that came from though. Including the RTS aspects, commanding Marine armies from space and funding/equiping your men.

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Originally by: FOl2TY8

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I have an XBox 360, can I help?

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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That's where the real gamble is, not in gameplay but in real life popularity.

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Actually, gameplay will be largely affected since if Dust fails, the EVE economy will suffer greatly since the two economies will be dependent on each other. Not just the buying and selling of mercenary services but of actual items and resources.

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That was what I meant by "gamble". It could fail just as easily on the PC.

Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Consoles WERE un-updateable and extremely constricting in 1994. That was before the "internet", and if you played computer games at the time you'd know computers were largely the same way.

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It was not lack of Internet that necessarily made consoles un-updateable, it was also no Hard Drive. Albeit, consoles didn't get HDD's much later than they got internet, even the XBox had to sell over-priced proprietary HDD's and they only recently had tried to make a concerted effort to get their users on the same page with the HDD program they did. At least the PS3 came with one and for cheap since I can throw any notebook HDD in there and increase my storage space exponentially.

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I don't really care why they didn't update. The fact is they do now so it's not a major issue.

Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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You can't fly a space ship in a console but you can shoot things in a console FPS. So it's a nod to console gamers and the things they value.

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Nonetheless, people who are actually GOOD at playing video games prefer PC shooters over FPS because they are just plain better. I had to go buy CoD4 for PC because I couldn't stand it on the PS3. On top of that, it had to have an auto-aim feature. You don't get that on PC. There's way more skill involved.

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So DUST only needs pro gamers? Get a grip, not everyone wants to or cares about getting a beefed up pc to play games on. Many people are tired of the hastles of spyware and viruses, and other pc only issues. For those people, (and there's lots of them) a console is a better option because they're more familiar with it.
Every game can become a matter of oog skill, even with auto-aim. How meta-gamed the gameplay skill levels are is entirely up to the developer. In my opinion it's a moot point. A mixed solution is a bad one for console players and a mediocre one at best for pc players. That's the bottom line.

Originally by: Jarna

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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At some point onlive http://www.onlive.com/ will be the mainstream way to console.

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Maybe, but that is a remote maybe. The infrastructure (and affordability of that infrastructure) in the world (and mostly the US) currently doesn't even come close to making this a widespread, profitable option in any of the foreseeable, near futures.

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Near future being 3-5 years maybe. But this is how things will end up. It's affordability is it's most ATTRACTIVE asset. Anyone with a cheap piece of solid state hardware can play any game the system is designed for with a pretty basic internet connection. That's about as cheap as it gets. It's by far the most affordable way to offer gaming content imaginable! Even developers like the idea because it's a single platform solution. And it SCALES instantly because all the hard work is done at a server farm. No hardware to buy, no software issues, just content streamed to your house while you pay a monthly fee or microfees to play.
It's only barrier at this point is proving it's technical viability and getting developers to adopt it.

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Wulfnor, I rather think that is possibly the best trolling of the troll I have ever seen, well done indeed.

Lock, as Wulfnor pointed out repeatedly, he was commenting on the absurdity of your post in general. It mattered not a wit who it was in response to. In your over the top efforts to look witty, you skillfully succeeded in making yourself look even more dim with each obtuse post.

If your original goal was to make yourself appear as a clueless twit who enjoys interjecting their uninformed opinion and (somewhat lame attempt at) humor into this thread, you have succeeded. However I suspect your goal was actually to be a condescending jerk to the OP and anyone else who thought the thread had merit. I do have to give you credit, you succeeded on that score as well.

I think its a little bit past time for you to run along and stop trying to derail this thread.

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Well I thought you understood it but I was wrong again. No I wasn't being a condescending jerk to the OP, I was being a condescending jerk to you. But as my daddy always told me you can't argue with stupid, it'll drag you to its level and beat you with experience as you and Wulfnor have done here.
It is sad that you think Wulfnors 5 year old mimicking covered your foot in mouth statement but to each his own I guess.

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Originally by: Wulfnor

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Wulfnor, I rather think that is possibly the best trolling of the troll I have ever seen, well done indeed.

Lock, as Wulfnor pointed out repeatedly, he was commenting on the absurdity of your post in general. It mattered not a wit who it was in response to. In your over the top efforts to look witty, you skillfully succeeded in making yourself look even more dim with each obtuse post.

If your original goal was to make yourself appear as a clueless twit who enjoys interjecting their uninformed opinion and (somewhat lame attempt at) humor into this thread, you have succeeded. However I suspect your goal was actually to be a condescending jerk to the OP and anyone else who thought the thread had merit. I do have to give you credit, you succeeded on that score as well.

I think its a little bit past time for you to run along and stop trying to derail this thread.

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Well I thought you understood it but I was wrong again. No I wasn't being a condescending jerk to the OP, I was being a condescending jerk to you. But as my daddy always told me you can't argue with stupid, it'll drag you to its level and beat you with experience as you and Wulfnor have done here.
It is sad that you think Wulfnors 5 year old mimicking covered your foot in mouth statement but to each his own I guess.

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So when you said you were moving on did you mean intellectually or from this thread?
It doesnt really seem you have done either.
Now that that you have returned we can begin again.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 14:49:00

Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Care to direct me to the CCP statement?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LW5jEbeY8

In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly. 2009-3=2006. The article those quotes are from was written in late 2006/early 2007.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Care to direct me to the CCP statement?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LW5jEbeY8

In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly. 2009-3=2006. The article those quotes are from was written in late 2006/early 2007.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Originally by: THE L0CK

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Hi Lock here,

I didn't bother reading one bit of this dust thread as I'm quite positive somebody has asked what you have asked and stated what you have stated in the multitude of dust threads now.
There are some massive Dust threads in OOPE where you may find what you are looking for as dust threads got moved there a while back so the denizens of GD didn't have to put up with them.

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... and now have relaxed that restriction now that the post patch forum fury is over.

Pro tip: Next time read before you comment. It makes you look a bit less like a tart.

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Originally by: Whitehound

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If I think, but I do not.

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 26/08/2009 14:49:00

Originally by: Washell Olivaw

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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox

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Also keep in mind DUST was what they were working on NOT WoD.

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Care to direct me to the CCP statement?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LW5jEbeY8

In the presentation Hilmar says CCP has been working on DUST for 3 years secretly. 2009-3=2006. The article those quotes are from was written in late 2006/early 2007.

It's obvious that speculation about WoD has been misinterpreted, CCP said in 2006 they were going to make WoD online. They didn't say they had started work on it. The author of the quoted article ASSUMED it was WoD because of the White Wolf merger. He had no way of knowing DUST even existed as a concept at the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_darkness#WoD_MMORPG
Recent speculation is that they've started production on WoD and might release in 4 to 5 years. This is somewhat realistic as they've proven they can keep a secret. It's possible they've been developing since the merger but we have no way of knowing that until something is said otherwise. In truth they could have been developing both WoD and DUST at the time. At this point we only know that they were developing DUST for sure. Any information on WoD is purely speculative.

So there you have it. I'm sure with some digging you can get more. Remember what you asked for though CCP statements. I challenge you to find a CCP statement that proves me wrong.

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