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CAPSLOCKBROKE Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:12:00 - [1] Anybody gonna be trying out the new upcoming MMO September 22th, Aion? Gonna keep a subscription to this (thank you EVE skill system), but already pre-ordered and look forward to trying out this new game. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:16:00 - [2] The MMO*G - Massively Multiplayer Online F*ing Asian Grind Game. ________________________________________________ My Music Posts slowly rising in quality to the decline of my dignity.
CAPSLOCKBROKE Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:22:00 - [3] Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest The MMO*G - Massively Multiplayer Online F*ing Asian Grind Game. It obviously has more of a grind than EVE (considering EVE has basically zero grind minus standings if you count that), but after playing the betas and reading forums for a while, the grind is no worse than WoW or Warhammer or anything. I actually quite enjoyed leveling up in this game much more compared to the others I have played (besides the EVE skill system which I really like). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:24:00 - [4] Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest The MMO*G - Massively Multiplayer Online F*ing Asian Grind Game. It obviously has more of a grind than EVE (considering EVE has basically zero grind minus standings if you count that), but after playing the betas and reading forums for a while, the grind is no worse than WoW or Warhammer or anything. I actually quite enjoyed leveling up in this game much more compared to the others I have played (besides the EVE skill system which I really like). Well my first post was more of a joke. I'm interested when they give a free trial to go and check it out. ________________________________________________ My Music Posts slowly rising in quality to the decline of my dignity.
CAPSLOCKBROKE Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest The MMO*G - Massively Multiplayer Online Fing Asian Grind Game. It obviously has more of a grind than EVE (considering EVE has basically zero grind minus standings if you count that), but after playing the betas and reading forums for a while, the grind is no worse than WoW or Warhammer or anything. I actually quite enjoyed leveling up in this game much more compared to the others I have played (besides the EVE skill system which I really like). Well my first post was more of a joke. I'm interested when they give a free trial to go and check it out. BTW, I read your other post recently. I would advise you to just stop giving a crap about what other people in school think and just have fun and focus on graduating. When I first entered High School I was shy as crap, and one day I said to myself "this is *ing stupid I'm gonna stop being a ***". After that I loved High School. My senior year was one of the best times of my life. Now I'm married, have a college degree, have a good job, and still have good friends from High School as well as other places in life. I know its cliche' but its true when people say "high school is just a bunch of drama and it doesn't really matter what people think of you". TLDR: Slap yourself in the face, tell yourself it doesn't matter what people think of you, and go find a chick and do her. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:31:00 - [6] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 01/09/2009 20:31:25 I'm still waiting for Earthrise. It will essentially be Eve on a planet.
CAPSLOCKBROKE Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:32:00 - [7] Oh also if someone is ever picking on you or generally being a douchebag, I would advise you beat the crap out of them. Looking back, it was totally worth it. Your punishment is either In School Suspension, I.E. identical to school except you stay in the same room all day. Or Out of School Suspension, I.E. a 5, 10, or 15 day vacation. There were a few people that said stupid **** and man am I glad I knocked there lights out instead of "being the better man". Now than I'm an adult and the pesky "Assault" laws matter, sometimes I gotta walk away from douchebags instead of knocking them out with the lead pipe I keep under my bed, or the brass knuckles I keep in my car. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
CAPSLOCKBROKE Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 01/09/2009 20:31:25 I'm still waiting for Earthrise. It will essentially be Eve on a planet. Yah that did look awesome. I'm still waiting on a Fallout MMO or Shadowrun MMO, that would be sweet. I played the Fallen Earth beta but it seemed incredibly buggy. Oh and LOL @ your sig, it owns. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:43:00 - [9] Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Oh also if someone is ever picking on you or generally being a douchebag, I would advise you beat the crap out of them. Looking back, it was totally worth it. Your punishment is either In School Suspension, I.E. identical to school except you stay in the same room all day. Or Out of School Suspension, I.E. a 5, 10, or 15 day vacation. There were a few people that said stupid **** and man am I glad I knocked there lights out instead of "being the better man". Now than I'm an adult and the pesky "Assault" laws matter, sometimes I gotta walk away from douchebags instead of knocking them out with the lead pipe I keep under my bed, or the brass knuckles I keep in my car. Totally wrong thread for these posts, but my school is something I really wanted to get into for the Academies and if you are absent more than 10% of the school year, you get removed from the school, that includes suspensions. ________________________________________________ My Music Posts slowly rising in quality to the decline of my dignity.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:44:00 - [10] AION is not a mmo is a grind fest
Bestofworst Worstofbest Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.01 20:48:00 - [11] Originally by: ceaon AION is not a mmo is a grind fest See second post. ________________________________________________ My Music Posts slowly rising in quality to the decline of my dignity.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.01 21:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest Originally by: ceaon AION is not a mmo is a grind fest See second post. yes we have same opinion on AION ... and ?
Rawr Cristina Caldari Annihilate. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.09.01 23:26:00 - [13] I'm really bored of EVE atm and a lot of friends are going to play this so will probably be giving the open beta a look. I've never really played a fantasy MMO before though so who knows how I'll cope - Malyutka (The Virus) -
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.09.02 00:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Rawr Cristina I'm really bored of EVE atm and a lot of friends are going to play this so will probably be giving the open beta a look. Hasn't open beta finished yet? I thought it was due for release in the next couple of months. If you do try the beta, would be really interesting to hear how you find it. I made the mistake of signing up for champions online so will prob give that a go...looks like CoH/V but a little more cartoony and has some cool features. And with SW:TOR on the horizon I think Aion will end up ignored, despite best intentions. I meant to have a go, but too many games, not enough time -------------
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude	Posted - 2009.09.02 04:47:00 - [15] I preordered Aion, I also installed the Japanese pack as I heard the English client is ****ing aweful. I would've just saved time and joined the Japanese Aion server and used their client but thanks to the impending EU/NA release they decided to block any IP's from either from connection to the website or server, so that's a no go.
Kayosoni Caldari Ghosting Corp	Posted - 2009.09.02 06:00:00 - [16] itt: go back to wow kids Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:04:00 - [17] couple guys at work are very interested in this game. i will take their reviews of it with a grain of salt though, they love Wow and think eve is too complicated. to it's credit, the screenies look like they did an excellent job on artwork ---------- Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother*****r
Stargazer Monk Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.09.02 11:37:00 - [18] Aion isn't like WoW at all. Looks can be very deceiving. I have been playing in the betas and it has a very good pvp system with balanced classes. In fact the way combat unfolds reminds me of EVE in a way lol. You have your small roaming gang pvp that infiltrate enemy territory through random rifts that spawn every couple hours (kinda like a cyno into enemy zones). Of course there is the large scale blob fests to capture fortresses in the Abyss (which you can relate to 0.0 outposts that your faction fight for control over) There is an NPC faction that is the enemy of both player factions and will pwn the stronger faction if they gain too much of a foothold to keep things in balance. Its basically an eternal 3 way battle between the 2 player factions and the much stronger NPC faction...it's good fun. A good feature the game has to keep balance in check is it will close off character creation on one side if the population there is skewed. So no more of these 3 to 1 population discrepancies that a lot of servers have in other PvP mmo's. Oh and you have fricken wings!
Asestorian Minmatar The Debonair	Posted - 2009.09.02 12:40:00 - [19] I have installed the client and have an open beta key. Going to try it out during open beta to see whether it is worth subscribing at some point. +½
CAPSLOCKBROKE Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.02 14:07:00 - [20] Seems a few people are actually curious about the game, so I will post a little basic info I have learned from the betas: 8 classes, most are similar to other fantasy classes, with a few fairly unique ones: Templar = Shield/Sword Tank. Mandatory for Dungeons. Gladiator = Massive 2 Hander, AOE DPS, Offtank Assassin = WOW Rogue, Combo System, Stuns, pretty cut and paste. Ranger = Range Bow, No Pet, Kiting, Some CC. Sorcerer = Range Spellcaster, Glass Cannon, Best CC and Mandatory for Dungeons. Spiritmaster = Interesting Pet Class, Groundbased w/ Anti-air abilities. Great 1v1 Class. Spells + Dots. Cleric = Main Healer. Good Survivability. Mandatory for Dungeons. Chanter = Interesting Buff Class. Offheals. Average DPS. Massive buffs, 80%+ of all buffs in Aion. Graphics are top-notch, make other MMOs look like a joke. If you play it on an Flatscreen TV, it feels like your watching a friggin movie. PVP is very well balanced. PVP is a mixture of twitch, group tactics, and overall skill. Gear plays a role, but is not an autowin. The third faction, the Balaur, keep PVP as balanced as possible as well as throwing curveballs into the mix, making it unpredictable. Massive incentives from many things keep people in the PVP, and keep the zone fun and unpredictable. Solo PvE is typical hack n slash with quests. Quests are average, mob AI is average, grind is average, fighting is average. Group PvE is quite good. Grouping for quests and higher zones is encourage, and much more worthwhile than soloing mobs later on. Dungeons are above average, and plentiful especially later on. Decent sized endgame already included. Overall, the game is worth playing. It IS better than WOW, don't let the look of the game make you think its just a WOW Clone. This game has better balance than WOW and it has only been out in Asia for under a year. The PVP is MUCH better than other fantasy games, and the lack of scenarios/battlegrounds and crap like that keeps the PVP REAL and MEANINGFUL. The best stuff in the game is in the Abyss, so if you want it, you have to fight the Balaur and the opposing faction for it. Also, crafting and gathering are much better than most games I have played. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
Cardiana	Posted - 2009.09.02 16:19:00 - [21] Edited by: Cardiana on 02/09/2009 16:20:52 i doubt itll be much diffrent from other mmorpgs except for the graphics and that there are flying angel sex symbols shooting green lasers rays out of their eyes. seems to be already a strong argument for many.
Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2009.09.02 17:16:00 - [22] Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE The third faction, the Balaur, keep PVP as balanced as possible as well as throwing curveballs into the mix, making it unpredictable. Massive incentives from many things keep people in the PVP, and keep the zone fun and unpredictable. Really ? Wait until the "pro-gamers" complain that combat is too random and not dependent enough on their nonexistent skills. Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Group PvE is quite good. Grouping for quests and higher zones is encourage, and much more worthwhile than soloing mobs later on. Dungeons are above average, and plentiful especially later on. Decent sized endgame already included. Great, so you have all the players split up in more dungeons, making it harder to find an incompetent bunch of kids to do some crappy dungeon. Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Overall, the game is worth playing. It IS better than WOW, don't let the look of the game make you think its just a WOW Clone. This game has better balance than WOW and it has only been out in Asia for under a year. The PVP is MUCH better than other fantasy games, and the lack of scenarios/battlegrounds and crap like that keeps the PVP REAL and MEANINGFUL. The best stuff in the game is in the Abyss, so if you want it, you have to fight the Balaur and the opposing faction for it. Yeah right, you think WoW had battlegrounds right from the start ?
Kayosoni Caldari Ghosting Corp	Posted - 2009.09.03 09:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Cpt Placeholder Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE The third faction, the Balaur, keep PVP as balanced as possible as well as throwing curveballs into the mix, making it unpredictable. Massive incentives from many things keep people in the PVP, and keep the zone fun and unpredictable. Really ? Wait until the "pro-gamers" complain that combat is too random and not dependent enough on their nonexistent skills. Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Group PvE is quite good. Grouping for quests and higher zones is encourage, and much more worthwhile than soloing mobs later on. Dungeons are above average, and plentiful especially later on. Decent sized endgame already included. Great, so you have all the players split up in more dungeons, making it harder to find an incompetent bunch of kids to do some crappy dungeon. Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Overall, the game is worth playing. It IS better than WOW, don't let the look of the game make you think its just a WOW Clone. This game has better balance than WOW and it has only been out in Asia for under a year. The PVP is MUCH better than other fantasy games, and the lack of scenarios/battlegrounds and crap like that keeps the PVP REAL and MEANINGFUL. The best stuff in the game is in the Abyss, so if you want it, you have to fight the Balaur and the opposing faction for it. Yeah right, you think WoW had battlegrounds right from the start ? do you think eve requires any bit of skill? Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
Rawr Cristina Caldari Annihilate. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.09.13 01:55:00 - [24] Ok, I've been playing the Beta this last week or so. It's been a lot of fun, although there's a few things that annoy me, but as far as fantasy MMOs go it's best I've played and I'll definately be picking it up at launch. Pros: - Very Pretty, Good Graphics for the most part that run well on most PCs - Very Nice Char. Creation - Best I've seen out there, can adjust pretty much everything - FLYING. It's really fun, and can be really unforgiving (pull your wings by mistake mid-air and you'll make a lovely crater in the floor) - PvE is a challenge, risk:reward is nicely balanced (won't get any EXP from mobs that are much lower level than you and killing something 5 levels higher will get you loads) and pretty much required to complete parts of the quest even at a low level (the amount of people I saw trying to solo the Elite NPCs only to get smashed in seconds was funny though) - Classes seems well balanced in PvP although I only got to level 25. Ranged classes will usually beat Melee 1v1 due to kiting and such but Melee is still powerful. A Ranger (think: Vagabond) will beat a Gladiator (think: Brutix) 1v1 pretty easily if they manage to keep range, but well timed Charge (MWD Burst) by the Glad and the Ranger is dead in seconds. - Non-consenual PvP. There are safe areas where you're not at risk (much like Hi-sec) but the rewards aren't anything special, and you can't do the campaign quests without going to PvP zones, where you're open to be mercilessly ganked by the other side because they found a rift to your world. (I was just minding by own business, hunting some lake monsters outside my fort thinking I was all safe and stuff when 2 rangers came out of nowhere and ganked me!) - Lots of Customization when it comes to Gear. Options to upgrade the role, performance and appearance of almost all items you can buy - Abyss. One Giant PvP Region and Fortress war between the 2 sides, and the 3rd NPC side which are evil, who you think you're beating and then all of a sudden a Battleship comes out of nowhere and uh, you remember that pic of the Apoc shooting lasers down upon WoW residents? Think that. Cons: - Mostly Typical MMO XP Level grinding. No PvP before level 20 (except arranged duels and Arena training) and you can't go to the Abyss before level 25. - Very limited warehouse space, especially so since I'm used to EVE where I can dump anything and everything in a single station without a care in the world. You can expand it, but it's expensive. You soon find yourself with more items than you can store or sell at once. - Solo PvP is hard, if not almost downright impossible except for the Assasin (who can cloak) Your sight range is quite low so you typically don't see other people 'til they're not far off weapons range. Imagine EVE with no Scanner and no Local. I'd be sitting on a high hill/cliff, would see someone on my Radar so naturally jump off, open wings and do a rapid gliding descent onto them, only to find 5-10 more dots appearing on the way and for me to land in the middle of their whole gang. Ooops. Overall, very fun game and more like EVE than you'd think. It's one major flaw is that they stuck to the standard XP leveling system which I hate to death, but if you look past that (was hard, even for me) it has a lot of potential IMO. - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.13 03:18:00 - [25] CON: GameGuard. NCSoft Advice: "Please turn off your firewall and antivirus" My response: "See ya, suckaz" "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.13 03:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Reiisha CON: GameGuard. NCSoft Advice: "Please turn off your firewall and antivirus" My response: "See ya, suckaz" What the **? _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by:** CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Zen Mehari	Posted - 2009.09.13 03:20:00 - [27] If there's a free trial I'll give it a go but I learnt my lesson after Age of Conan & Warhammer. As for NCSoft/Arenanet...I'll definitely be picking up Guild Wars 2 when it's released but their other titles will need to prove their metal in the market before I dive in. What I'm really looking forward to is SWTOR -it's starting to shape up nicely and I think could be a real challenge to the WoW. We can see from the initial spike of both AoC & WH...players are looking for something new. I've tried a variety of MMOs but Eve has been the one constant among them and will likely remain so.
BeaconBeacon	Posted - 2009.09.13 03:31:00 - [28] heh, I notice a lot of NCsoft games have that same trait: at its core its a brilliant concept, but its ultimate execution is riddled with mistakes. All their other games are great concepts, just once they are put down on paper, they tend to be less fun then expected. Or they are fun for a few hours, then boreing. Guild wars, Exteel, tabula rasa, all great concepts (skill based pvp, arena mech fighting online, first person style game play respectively). But their ultimate conclusions end up being fun for a few hours but don't hold your attention because of lack of long term goals, and games that you play for the sake of becoming better are much better suited in the fighting genre (such as street fighter of MVC2). I hope this game goes the distance. It sounds awesome and when there is a free trial I'll definitely play. BTW, I define Success as a game that enjoys a quarter million players. If that sounds small, you have to realize, WOW is an anomaly. If you check the population of other MMO's before (and during) it, you'll notice WOW is radically off the curve as far as populations go.
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard.	Posted - 2009.09.13 07:42:00 - [29] I have played through the Aion beta this past week, had enough time to hit level 17, did some fights in the arena etc, and I have to say it was a ton of fun. I have already preordered pre open beta so I will be subbin to the game. Aion fills a niche that eve doesn't which is simple hack and slash mmo set in a beautiful world that isn't done over the top. Something WoW or WAR is incapable of doing. Combine EVE and Aion with another new mmo on the way Earth Rise, and those are my 3 mmo's
Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2009.09.13 09:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Kayosoni do you think eve requires any bit of skill? Yes obviously, many bits of skills actually, that's why not everyone is a trillionaire or a 0.0 alliance leader. p.s. Don't quote a wall of text if your reply has little to do with it.
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.13 11:34:00 - [31] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Reiisha CON: GameGuard. NCSoft Advice: "Please turn off your firewall and antivirus" My response: "See ya, suckaz" What the ***? Gameguard wouldn't let Aion run on my PC, even though i have only 25 processes running, 7 of which are Outpost and Avast >_> Could log in for a few minutes before it popped up a message "The game or gameguard has been modified". I may give it a go again if they remove that POS. Still can't believe they are actually advising people to turn off their internet security. Also, little bit of fun: GameGuard does not prevent hacking. In fact, some hacks require* GG to be running in order to work. If that doesn't ring any alarm bells, i don't know what will. Originally by: Zen Mehari If there's a free trial I'll give it a go but I learnt my lesson after Age of Conan & Warhammer. What I'm really looking forward to is SWTOR -it's starting to shape up nicely and I think could be a real challenge to the WoW. We can see from the initial spike of both AoC & WH...players are looking for something new. Age of Conan has actually matured quite a bit since retail... Tried it again for a little bit, the engine has been optimized a LOT (ran 4-8 times as fast as it used to, no joke), which gives me hope for TSW (which will use the same engine). Gameplay is actually more interesting that i remembered, and while reminiscent of WoW, it does feel different. They added quite a bit in the past year in terms of content aswell. But oh well... The one MMO i'm really looking forward to is The Secret World. Gief. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Cardiana	Posted - 2009.09.13 11:42:00 - [32] im lookin forward trying swtor from biowar otherwise there is nothing out there that even remotely pulls me.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.09.14 12:26:00 - [33] Looks about as enthralling and pleasurable as major reconstructive dental surgery. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.09.14 15:22:00 - [34] I've been playing a few months on the chinese servers, and even with the associated problems (perfectible english traduction pack, sociabilisation issues, bit of lag), I still like playing quite a bit. Eve is the only other MMO that kept me hooked like that after 4 months, and I've tried a lot of them. It looks like a wow-like at first, but when you dig in, there's lots of little things to master to really be good at it. For instance, Weaving (mixing auto-attacks in your skill combos) will increase your dps, but require good timing to do it right. Aion is a difficult MMO, make no mistake about it. Not hugely complicated, but you'll have to be smart, and pay with sweat to advance. About pvp, at first ranged classes will hand you your head. As a gladiator, I started holding my own against sorcerers at about lv35. But when you start getting end-game gear, like extendable weapons (think Ivy's whip-sword in soul calibur) and skills, the advantage tend to shift to melee. At least for solo pvp. For raids it's a bit different. One good thing about Aion's pvp is that you lose abyss points when you die, and those points are fairly precious. So death hurt, and the more AP you have, you more you stand to lose. But having a high AP rank can give you nice specific skills or stuff, so you also have an incentive to keep pvping and avoid death.
Kiviar Caldari Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.09.14 18:28:00 - [35] Edited by: Kiviar on 14/09/2009 18:28:15 Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Reiisha CON: GameGuard. NCSoft Advice: "Please turn off your firewall and antivirus" My response: "See ya, suckaz" What the ***? Gameguard wouldn't let Aion run on my PC, even though i have only 25 processes running, 7 of which are Outpost and Avast >_> Could log in for a few minutes before it popped up a message "The game or gameguard has been modified". I may give it a go again if they remove that POS. Still can't believe they are actually advising people to turn off their internet security. Also, little bit of fun: GameGuard does not prevent hacking. In fact, some hacks require* GG to be running in order to work. If that doesn't ring any alarm bells, i don't know what will. Well NCsoft has just said they are giving Gameguard the boot. So rejoice! As for Aion. To sum it up in a nutshell, if you are looking to play a fantasy MMO that isnt world of warcraft, Aion is a fairly good choice. As grinds go it is closer to pre kunark EQ from zero to max than it is to Lineage II or Final Fantasy XI. ---
Morvyn Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.09.14 21:53:00 - [36] Edited by: Morvyn on 14/09/2009 21:53:10 I was kind of looking forward to it, although the advertising for it is somewhat deceiving. It's way, WAY more Asian/anime-ish than a lot of the US advertising seems to let on - and after all, anime is cartoons so basically, is crappy. Instead, I'm looking forward to giving Global Agenda a go.
Mei Khlolov Bane INC. INQUISITION.	Posted - 2009.09.14 23:39:00 - [37] I'm semi interested in it, mainly because the character creation is so deep I'll be able to play a NORMAL looking character and kick the **** out of all the anime looking angels. That's something you gotta give them props for, you can literally make a character that looks like anything.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Annihilate. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.09.15 02:09:00 - [38] Originally by: Morvyn It's way, WAY more Asian/anime-ish than a lot of the US advertising seems to let on - and after all, anime is cartoons so basically, is crappy. maybe your definition of anime is different than mine, but to me it didn't feel like it at all. They've really done a good job westernizing the game IMO. I mean, yes you CAN make your char look anime, but you can make normal looking chars too.. or downright abominations... Spot the odd one out - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Taradis Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.09.15 05:10:00 - [39] Not into anime so this game wouldn't be for me. I'm looking forward to the old republic
Aaron Mirrorsaver R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.09.15 09:45:00 - [40] eve doesnt have grind? how do you make isk? eve has grind. ------ Inappropriate signature removed.Applebabe
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.15 09:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver eve doesnt have grind? how do you make isk? eve has grind. plex ?
Cardiana	Posted - 2009.09.15 13:49:00 - [42] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver eve doesnt have grind? how do you make isk? eve has grind. plex ? not everyones a siggawara in eve
Rawr Cristina Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.09.18 17:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Reiisha Gameguard wouldn't let Aion run on my PC, even though i have only 25 processes running, 7 of which are Outpost and Avast >_> Could log in for a few minutes before it popped up a message "The game or gameguard has been modified". I may give it a go again if they remove that POS. Looks like they're starting to get the message anyways: Quote: - After analyzing our open beta test results Aion will not feature GameGuard at launch. We will however continue to pursue ways to effectively utilize GameGuard within Aion in the future. Right now we're focused on providing players with the best possible Aion experience. - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Stargazer Monk Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.09.18 21:48:00 - [44] Yeah they removed GG for all the ppl having trouble, at least for now...nice to see they are listening to their community. They are quite proactive on twitter actually with constant updates as to what they are doing... I never had any trouble with GG myself (64 bit OS). I have decided to give Aion a few months of my time as it's been a blast in beta (never even felt like a beta). Just had the pre selection a couple hours ago letting us login and create 2 characters and reserve our names for launch in 2 days. Game goes live in 4 days but people who pre-ordered get a 2 day head start on the masses. fun fun I have a pretty good feeling about this game, it's slick, great to play and very competitive. I think it should do pretty well and they have already sold over 400,000 pre orders at the last count I believe. Keeping the server limit to 12 servers to start with is a good idea too... makes for a tighter population on the servers, so no ghost towns. They also have the balancing lock out which stops ppl making too many of one faction to keep it all balanced.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.09.18 22:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 18/09/2009 22:17:46 Yup 400K pre-orders, not bad at all - just hope the servers are good enough at launch for me not to lag (I had quite bad lag during Open Beta...) I'll be on Telemachus (EU) server with a bunch of other EVE players, playing Asmo - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.19 00:22:00 - [46] Will there be a free trial? if so i may as well try it out. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard.	Posted - 2009.09.19 06:56:00 - [47] Originally by: Blane Xero Will there be a free trial? if so i may as well try it out. There already was. It was called OPEN BETA. from September 6th to 13th. It's worth the buy, coming from me, and I'm the kinda guy that hated both WoW and WAR.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.19 07:09:00 - [48] Originally by: rValdez5987 Originally by: Blane Xero Will there be a free trial? if so i may as well try it out. There already was. It was called OPEN BETA. from September 6th to 13th. It's worth the buy, coming from me, and I'm the kinda guy that hated both WoW and WAR. I missed open beta by a day
TRD 2371	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:58:00 - [49] aion will be awesome pvpve! the more i look the more i like this game. it is not wow.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.09.19 16:07:00 - [50] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 19/09/2009 16:08:00 Originally by: Cpt Placeholder Originally by: Kayosoni do you think eve requires any bit of skill? Yes obviously, many bits of skills actually, that's why not everyone is a trillionaire or a 0.0 alliance leader. No, its because they have jobs and other interests than a game. You could easily become a trillionare by spending your entire days in the game. --- Originally by: Eve Forums ...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...
Winged Crime	Posted - 2009.09.25 10:27:00 - [51] Edited by: Winged Crime on 25/09/2009 10:27:54 I played the open beta, went into it with an open mind. I came up with a new name for it while I was there, or at least a new way of spelling it: aiYAWN Apart from relatively smooth gameplay and decent graphics, I saw no reason to play it further. It was being heralded as revolutionary and all this junk, and it's just a giant grindfest. The general chat channels were full of fanboys exclaiming how much more of a mature experience it is compared to things like WoW, and going on and on about how childish WoW and other games were. Meanwhile, the town I was in: I was surrounded by people with "Animal Lover" and "Tree Hugger" titles beside their names, and directly beside me were male characters, with facial hair, shaking their bums and dancing with pink pom poms. Needless to say, the client has been fully removed from my machine and I feel sexually secure again in space.
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2009.09.25 11:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Kayosoni do you think eve requires any bit of skill? An ex-BoB pilot wouldn't know.
JitaBum Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.09.25 11:32:00 - [53] I preordered this based on everyone saying how great it was. To be blunt, it's crap. 1) Flying is restricted to small areas only 2) The game is linear as hell 3) The quests and mobs are generic as hell - kill 5 of these and 10 of these, deliver this etc... you're meant to be an hero demi-god, but you're nothing more than a skivvy 4) Combat consists of constant repetition of keypresses i.e. 2,3,4,5,6,2,3 It's an entirely derivative and vanilla MMO, albeit a polished one.
Nebulous Minmatar Salvage Junkies	Posted - 2009.09.25 12:16:00 - [54] Maybe i'm getting old bu this game looks awful, I just watched some youtube videos of it and to be honest you could not pay me to play that game. Terrible terrible terrible. P.S. The thought of what the community "might" be like makes me shudder even more, bunch of teenage dirtbags running around naked with their female chars, saying "lul" at everything that moves.
Ethidium Bromide Amarr ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.25 12:34:00 - [55] Originally by: Verone Looks about as enthralling and pleasurable as major reconstructive dental surgery. depends on which side of the chair you at
Ruby Khann	Posted - 2009.09.25 17:28:00 - [56] Originally by: JitaBum I preordered this based on everyone saying how great it was. To be blunt, it's crap. 1) Flying is restricted to small areas only 2) The game is linear as hell 3) The quests and mobs are generic as hell - kill 5 of these and 10 of these, deliver this etc... you're meant to be an hero demi-god, but you're nothing more than a skivvy 4) Combat consists of constant repetition of keypresses i.e. 2,3,4,5,6,2,3 It's an entirely derivative and vanilla MMO, albeit a polished one. I, too, purchase products without any advance knowledge of them. Marketers just love dipshits like you.
JitaBum Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.09.25 19:49:00 - [57] Originally by: Ruby Khann Originally by: JitaBum I preordered this based on everyone saying how great it was. To be blunt, it's crap. 1) Flying is restricted to small areas only 2) The game is linear as hell 3) The quests and mobs are generic as hell - kill 5 of these and 10 of these, deliver this etc... you're meant to be an hero demi-god, but you're nothing more than a skivvy 4) Combat consists of constant repetition of keypresses i.e. 2,3,4,5,6,2,3 It's an entirely derivative and vanilla MMO, albeit a polished one. I, too, purchase products without any advance knowledge of them. Marketers just love dipshits like you. Heh of course I did research about the game first so BLOW IT OUT ASS I expected some WOW-type variant with wings and some innovation, instead it was grind with a borrowed quest and crafting system. I agree with this; the game has no soul.
Nebulous Minmatar Salvage Junkies	Posted - 2009.09.25 23:28:00 - [58] Originally by: JitaBum I expected some WOW-type variant with wings Sorry dude but I had to laugh when I read this, how you thought a WOW type game with wings would qualify as a good MMO ------------------------------------------
Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.09.26 01:39:00 - [59] Originally by: JitaBum I preordered this based on everyone saying how great it was. To be blunt, it's crap. 1) Flying is restricted to small areas only 2) The game is linear as hell 3) The quests and mobs are generic as hell - kill 5 of these and 10 of these, deliver this etc... you're meant to be an hero demi-god, but you're nothing more than a skivvy 4) Combat consists of constant repetition of keypresses i.e. 2,3,4,5,6,2,3 It's an entirely derivative and vanilla MMO, albeit a polished one. 1/ Not in the abyss, which is were you're supposed to spend most of your time. 2/ At first, yes, but it get better as you level up. 3/ Of course quests and mobs are generic. Did you seriously expect quests to be original? It's always one kind or another of travel or combat, because the genre simply isn't compatible with anything else. 4/ Combat in Aion is full of little things you have to master if you want to be truelly good. But to realize that, you have to get to the levels were every npc has it's own skill chains, where every player has it's arsenal of attacks/counters alaivable, where stigmas and stuff completely change the way you play your avatar. You sound like someone who judged Aion only on it's first few levels. Do you do the same with movies and songs? ------------------------------------------
Cardiana	Posted - 2009.09.26 20:56:00 - [60] Edited by: Cardiana on 26/09/2009 21:03:21 the more i see of this game the more fascinating it becomes to me. it is not just your average mmo. like eve it is actually quite unique. a masterwork art piece of gaming. playing ranger is so much fun. get to make your own gear from scratch. gank people. explore. epic pvpve battles in the abyss whic affects economy globally and like someone said especially the ranger class is not just simply hit a button. this are the poeple that get ganked in aion aswell as in eve.
Kin'Tarr Minmatar The Salieri Society	Posted - 2009.10.14 12:32:00 - [61] Looking at getting hold of the game, but im after the US version (living in Europe) to play with some friends. Any ideas on where to get hold of the game, or at least the serial to activate the account? It has been suggested to get friends in the US to buy it and send me the code directly, but are there any other possibilities? K.O.S
Raiizan	Posted - 2009.10.14 14:29:00 - [62] You should be able to get the US version directly from the NCSoft shop. Simply get Aion(US) instead of Aion(EU).
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.10.14 14:40:00 - [63] Originally by: Kin'Tarr Looking at getting hold of the game, but im after the US version (living in Europe) to play with some friends. Any ideas on where to get hold of the game, or at least the serial to activate the account? It has been suggested to get friends in the US to buy it and send me the code directly, but are there any other possibilities? I think Steam and D2D both sell it too. Am curious to hear how you find it. Being NCSoft, I'd imagine it is a very good game, but the 3-faction thing and setting seem a little bland. -------------
Elora Danzik Caldari Idiots In Spaceships Psychotic Tendencies.	Posted - 2009.10.14 15:28:00 - [64] Originally by: CAPSLOCKBROKE Oh also if someone is ever picking on you or generally being a douchebag, I would advise you beat the crap out of them. Looking back, it was totally worth it. Your punishment is either In School Suspension, I.E. identical to school except you stay in the same room all day. Or Out of School Suspension, I.E. a 5, 10, or 15 day vacation. Not anymore with zero tolerance policies, both parties start and expulsion in a few states.
Kin'Tarr Minmatar The Salieri Society	Posted - 2009.10.14 17:58:00 - [65] Originally by: Raiizan You should be able to get the US version directly from the NCSoft shop. Simply get Aion(US) instead of Aion(EU). Only problem is the website keeps defaulting to GB unless im doing it wrong? :'( K.O.S
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2009.10.14 18:32:00 - [66] Got the preorder; tried beta and wasn't impressed. Tried at launch with the HORRIBLE login queues (2 hours or not even giving a time), still wasn't impressed. Played till about 5 days after launch, haven't touched it since.
Kin'Tarr Minmatar The Salieri Society	Posted - 2009.10.14 18:46:00 - [67] Originally by: Marko Riva Got the preorder; tried beta and wasn't impressed. Tried at launch with the HORRIBLE login queues (2 hours or not even giving a time), still wasn't impressed. Played till about 5 days after launch, haven't touched it since. Your reasons ? K.O.S
Sys Root	Posted - 2009.10.14 20:08:00 - [68] Played the beta, with horrible lag and loggin queues, continued to play retail, with horrible lag and loggin queues. Being a huge GW fan i was expecting a bit more from NCsoft, not just another MMO where 99% of your time is spent staring at your character's ass while he runs/flys to the next quest. Havent touched it in a couple weeks now, i doubt ill ever play it again.
Havoc LE	Posted - 2009.10.14 20:21:00 - [69] Edited by: Havoc LE on 14/10/2009 20:21:17 edit: wrong topic, sorry
NeoNeTiC LOCKDOWN.	Posted - 2009.10.14 20:53:00 - [70] I tried Aion and the subscription is still running until the 25th but I won't renew it. The game has a few major flaws/issues that overshadow the potential within. Just consider these facts: Spell-timings and cooldowns do not affect the character animation and results in you being 'stuck' until the char stops flailing his arms around - applies to rogue-classes and casters alike and is a sad, sad joke. There you are, getting lots of spell-haste but what good does it since you'll have 0.5 to 1 second delay after the cast due to char-movement? You can actually get melee-haste to speed the animation up but there are very few items with it and it's more of a late game thing. Most actions have animations - even entering flying mode (you know, spreading your wings and stuff). That's fluent gameplay right here. Healing does not scale with equipment. Right. Everything damage/damage reduction related stat can be increased, no matter if melee, range or caster class but healers just have their basic heals. You end up spamming them repeatedly just to heal 1-2 seconds of damage a DD class deals. Later you'll mostly end up spamming potion-macros while gearing for HP. Buffer-tank all the way. :\ The grind. And there's lot of it. You do nice quests from Levels 1 to 25 (maybe 30) but then it's just grind. And it's not even enjoyable grind - you have repeatable quests (up to 100 times) which require you to slay NPCs X, Y and Z - now grind your way up to 50 (later levels take 18 hours of grinding). NCSoft did introduce a few more quests but the amount of mindless grind is massive, compared to the handfull of unique quests you get. You can enter an instance each 18 hours and if you fail because the group sucked you had your chance for today. That's classy PvE right here. :/ You want to know about crafting? Well, glad you asked, since it's a grindy joke. You need nothing but ingame currency to level your profession from 1 to 400 and most recipes but the system is just silly: You get a repeatable quest for each 10 levels of the profession and buy the materials required from another NPC nearby. You then spend two to five minutes waiting until your char crafted all the crap required since the system is luck-based and you have two bars (one for success and one for failure) raising from time to time without you doing anything but watch TV/play EVE on the second screen. That's just tedious. You then hand in the quest and pick up the same again, doing the same ** once more. Early on it's one profession-level within one quest (sometimes more), later on you have to do several and this just means more costs. It's like saying "pay X currency to get the level" but then spend hours in front of the screen doing nothing but click every 4 minutes. Since the mining-reference is now given, please consider: You're doing it in your capital city, which is safe from any kind of attack. You don't even gain but a profession level here and there. :\| Then there's the luck-factor. You want a fancy item? Great, buy the mats for the common one, hope for a lucky procc to get a green one, then use this and hope for a procc to blue and then the same ** again for orange. Given that the chance is less likely for each step you end up grinding the mats/cash for hours, spend hours crafing and then do not have luck and the newb next to you crafts it in one try. Yay. All gear is BoE on the other hand and you can sell it (which you won't, since selling the mats is as profiable without the risk of devaluation due to lack of procc-luck). I'm not going to whine about the bugs, memory leaks and bot-plague right now - it's a new MMO and I have yet to see one performing much better. ;3 The best aspect so far is that you can make all kinds of sexy girl chars and cyber with people for ingame currency (and then blackmail them with the chatlogs). Regards, NeoNeTiC Grindybear
Kin'Tarr Minmatar The Salieri Society	Posted - 2009.10.14 21:09:00 - [71] Originally by: NeoNeTiC I tried Aion and... Regards, NeoNeTiC Grindybear Cheers for the insight, i have a few friends that are playing it, which is probably the only factor right now without any firsthand experience. I was given nightmares with Rising Force Online my first try at a Korean grindfest.. and this game so far sounds like a mirror copy. : \| K.O.S

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