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rubico1337 Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2009.09.08 22:58:00 - [181] Edited by: rubico1337 on 08/09/2009 22:58:26 could this get any better? Originally by: Lana Torrin I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.
Ceralio The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:04:00 - [182] Originally by: F90OEX Well it is either one or the other. #1 Sirmolle gave you the ships and you made a big post about how you stole the 3 ships. #2 OR Sirmolle intentionally gave you the ships so you can split the isk between you 2 and whoever was in the scam and you take the hit for it. If it turns out to be #2 then I took the ship for the wrong reasons and the amount agreed will be deposited into your account, but like I said spin it how you want just better be the 101% truth along with proof, otherwise we are wasting each others time here with some co=ck and bull story. The ball is in your court.... Lets use Chribba this time. So if i proove Molle lied you will return it right? Tempest Tribal Lottery
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:12:00 - [183] Originally by: Ceralio Originally by: F90OEX Well it is either one or the other. #1 Sirmolle gave you the ships and you made a big post about how you stole the 3 ships. #2 OR Sirmolle intentionally gave you the ships so you can split the isk between you 2 and whoever was in the scam and you take the hit for it. If it turns out to be #2 then I took the ship for the wrong reasons and the amount agreed will be deposited into your account, but like I said spin it how you want just better be the 101% truth along with proof, otherwise we are wasting each others time here with some co=ck and bull story. The ball is in your court.... Lets use Chribba this time. So if i proove Molle lied you will return it right? So are you saying you made your story up along with your theft post and the #2 option is correct ?
Ceralio The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:15:00 - [184] Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: Ceralio Originally by: F90OEX Well it is either one or the other. #1 Sirmolle gave you the ships and you made a big post about how you stole the 3 ships. #2 OR Sirmolle intentionally gave you the ships so you can split the isk between you 2 and whoever was in the scam and you take the hit for it. If it turns out to be #2 then I took the ship for the wrong reasons and the amount agreed will be deposited into your account, but like I said spin it how you want just better be the 101% truth along with proof, otherwise we are wasting each others time here with some co=ck and bull story. The ball is in your court.... Lets use Chribba this time. So if i proove Molle lied you will return it right? So are you saying you made your story up along with your theft post and the #2 option is correct ? chribba first, rest later Tempest Tribal Lottery
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:25:00 - [185] Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired. Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :) SKUNK (o)
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:40:00 - [186] Originally by: Le Skunk Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired. Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :) SKUNK Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread. Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it .... Either post the truth or I am done with it.
Ceralio The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:47:00 - [187] Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: Le Skunk Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired. Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :) SKUNK Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread. Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it .... Either post the truth or I am done with it. In that case i guess your going to have to life with it that you gave your 3rd party service up while bieing lied to. Eitherway, since i can't exactly say i trust you with another 0.01 isk, i wont be saying **** before chribba gets involved. Have fun with your hangar ornament if you decide to back out. Tempest Tribal Lottery
rubico1337 Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:47:00 - [188] Originally by: F90OEX Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it .... sounds like it is you who is being played Originally by: Lana Torrin I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.
CamMan Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:50:00 - [189] Originally by: Ceralio How does it feel bieing lied to by the guy you gave this all up for? You really are the slime of the earth SFS, you betray Molle's trust in stealing the 3 state ships, and karma bites you in the ass, now you are still trying to spin more BS in getting them back, in the process trying to drag Molles name through the mud. Stop your lies, you little worm. Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:53:00 - [190] Originally by: Ceralio Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: Le Skunk Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired. Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :) SKUNK Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread. Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it .... Either post the truth or I am done with it. In that case i guess your going to have to life with it that you gave your 3rd party service up while bieing lied to. Eitherway, since i can't exactly say i trust you with another 0.01 isk, i wont be saying **** before chribba gets involved. Have fun with your hangar ornament if you decide to back out. rubico1337 Yep but he forgets who he is playing with Ceralio Re-read post 168, and as for the ship it was moved far away today for ISD who needed some pictures

Ceralio The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:55:00 - [191] Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: Ceralio Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: Le Skunk Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired. Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :) SKUNK Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread. Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it .... Either post the truth or I am done with it. In that case i guess your going to have to life with it that you gave your 3rd party service up while bieing lied to. Eitherway, since i can't exactly say i trust you with another 0.01 isk, i wont be saying **** before chribba gets involved. Have fun with your hangar ornament if you decide to back out. rubico1337 Yep but he forgets who he is playing with Ceralio Re-read post 168, and as for the ship it was moved far away today for ISD who needed some pictures breaking a sweat there? Chribba or no go. Up to you, have fun. Tempest Tribal Lottery
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:58:00 - [192] Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further.
Ceralio The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:00:00 - [193] Originally by: F90OEX Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further. what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless? Have fun with your state raven! Tempest Tribal Lottery
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:07:00 - [194] Originally by: Ceralio what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless? Nothing like circus trickery I love it !!!
Ceralio The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:11:00 - [195] Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: Ceralio what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless? Nothing like circus trickery I love it !!! Well heres a huge suprise, your backing out! Your afraid to go all the way on this because it might bite you in the ass doubletime. Tempest Tribal Lottery
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:15:00 - [196] Comedy gold
CamMan Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:34:00 - [197] Originally by: Ceralio Originally by: F90OEX Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further. what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless? Have fun with your state raven! I smell desperation in the air ..... Why so angry SFS? is it because your lies are transparent? is it because karma is a biatch? is it because F90OEX is smarter then you? is it because you trashed your name and regret it? is it because F90OEX enhanced his reputation at your expense? or is it all of the above? Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
Replestil	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:37:00 - [198] Edited by: Replestil on 09/09/2009 00:37:42 Steal from the rich and give to the even richer as someone else said. So noble of you Now you're just looking like a drama queen.
Arec Bardwin	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:43:00 - [199] This soap is getting better every day.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:02:00 - [200] Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:04 The situation as i understand it: 1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner) 2) SFS claims Molle was an accomplice in the "theft". 3) F900 demands proof Molle was an accomplice, and if this proof is shown, he will pay SFS the 180 billion 4) SFS is happy to give this proof - with the provisio CHRIBBA (the only fully trusted 3rd party remaining in game) holds onto the Isk. When Chribba has the isk SFS will release the proof. Well what have you got to lose f900?. After you have admited to not fufilling your side of the bargain with SFS - he is in his rights to ask for a middle man and Chribba is trustworthy. Consider the following scenarios Best case scenario - SFS is talking ** - Chribba gives you your isk back. Molle gets his ship. Your decision is validated and you regain your E-HonourLOSER --> SFS Worst case scenario - SFS proves Molle was an accomplice - Chribba gives SFS the isk - You keep a 180 billion isk ship. You repair your E-Honour.LOSER --> MOLLE Outside Chance Scenario- Chribba steals the isk. You keep a 180 billion isk ship. LOSER --> MOLLE AND SFS** Please note that you are not the loser in either scenario. So you have nothing to lose. Since you have set yourself on the path of "moral honest righteousness" - the least you can do is finish it off. SKUNK (o)

Takeshi Hatch Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:14:00 - [201]
Coranor Black Nova Corp	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:24:00 - [202] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49 The situation as i understand it: 1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner) That was me, pay attention there.
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:26:00 - [203] Edited by: F90OEX on 09/09/2009 01:27:59 Le Skunk, It's on my terms or nothing, I am not going to be "played" into anything at this stage if he does not like it too bad. Ceralio has done nothing but lied, stole and made up as he goes along to suit his own needs since no one is interested in his lottery nor the other ship, as stated he either post what he has or move on..... Also the ship would not go back to Molle since he has already agreed with me once the ship is sold or isk raised from a lottery, the isk would go back to the players who won the the ship I have.
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:37:00 - [204] Originally by: CamMan Originally by: Ceralio Originally by: F90OEX Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further. what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless? Have fun with your state raven! I smell desperation in the air ..... Why so angry SFS? is it because your lies are transparent? is it because karma is a biatch? is it because F90OEX is smarter then you? is it because you trashed your name and regret it? is it because F90OEX enhanced his reputation at your expense? or is it all of the above? He still has 2 unique battleships, which makes him a lot richer than you will ever be. You seem pretty angry about all of this.
Lana's Alt Minmatar	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:39:00 - [205] Originally by: F90OEX Ceralio has done nothing but lied, stole and made up as he goes along to suit his own needs Interesting how you defend yourself by accusing someone else of lying, theft and being dishonest in a thread all about you lying, stealing and not keeping your word..
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:42:00 - [206] Originally by: Coranor Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49 The situation as i understand it: 1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner) That was me, pay attention there. If I borrow 50 dollars from a friend, and then give that 50 dollars to a tramp who then spends the 50 dollars. Does the tramp owe my friend 50 dollars? Or do I owe my friend 50 dollars? SKUNK (o)
SHOCKZORS	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:52:00 - [207] Ceralio: This is an interesting thread.. So, how about F90 gives me the 180bil & we determine Case Solved and Molle & Ceralio lose?
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.09.09 01:57:00 - [208] Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 02:01:55 Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 09/09/2009 01:27:59 Le Skunk, It's on my terms or nothing, I am not going to be "played" into anything at this stage if he does not like it too bad. Ceralio has done nothing but lied, stole and made up as he goes along to suit his own needs since no one is interested in his lottery nor the other ship, as stated he either post what he has or move on..... Also the ship would not go back to Molle since he has already agreed with me once the ship is sold or isk raised from a lottery, the isk would go back to the players who won the the ship I have. Well I dont think you are being "played" when he asks for a trusted middle man. This is a standard practice when dealing with large amounts of money amongst the general EVE populace. You are obviously used to being trusted 100% - and so somebody asking for a middle man to assist with their dealings with you is strange and insulting. You think you are being messed with and "played" Well unfortunately you have relinquished the trust placed in you (I understand your reasons for doing so) and actualy are now In a position of being LESS TRUSTWORTHY then the average member of the populace (as there is evidence of you betraying your word and backing out on a deal) I think its rather churlish to act indignant and bridle up at SFS wanting to use a middle man and expect him to take your "word for it" when you've admitted yourself to stitching him up not 24 hours earlier Youve just simply got to get used to the fact nobody now will trust you anymore then they will trust a random face in Jita - and use a trusted third party to conduct your high value deals (such as chribba) I think the small 5 minutes effort needed will be well worth the shining light of truth on this whole sordid affair. So all you have to do is: 1) Transfer Isk To Chribba 1b) If you are not liquid - transfer ship to Chribba 2) Chribba Posts in thread 3) TRUTH WILL OUT (whether its that SFS is lying - or Molle was complicit) BTW: If Molle indeed was involved, then OFC he will try to cover it up by asking for the isk to be spread amongst the winner. This proves nothing. (o)
Coranor Black Nova Corp	Posted - 2009.09.09 02:11:00 - [209] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Coranor Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49 The situation as i understand it: 1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner) That was me, pay attention there. If I borrow 50 dollars from a friend, and then give that 50 dollars to a tramp who then spends the 50 dollars. Does the tramp owe my friend 50 dollars? Or do I owe my friend 50 dollars? SKUNK You thought about that a while didn't you?
F90OEX F9X Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.09 02:11:00 - [210] Le Skunk Again understand but I won't get Chribba involved in this mess, I have nothing to lose at this point, the people who say they won't use me as 3rd party, would not use me anyways or have nothing to use me for. "BTW: If Molle indeed was involved, then OFC he will try to cover it up by asking for the isk to be spread amongst the winner. This proves nothing" Your right it does not prove anything, but at least the isk goes to the right players and that's all that matters at this point.



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