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Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.09.11 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 11/09/2009 10:23:43
 Originally by: SirMolle
I'll refrain from commenting on all the idjit conspiracy theories.
Good choice Mr.Molle, good choice.
It has been an amusing soap opera though, you have to admit.
And in every good soap opera, love plays a part.
So without further adue - did you know that Kryztal is in love with you?
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE HistoryWiki |
Ceralio
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.09.11 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Edited by: Victor Vision on 11/09/2009 10:23:43
Originally by: SirMolle
I'll refrain from commenting on all the idjit conspiracy theories.
Good choice Mr.Molle, good choice.
It has been an amusing soap opera though, you have to admit.
And in every good soap opera, love plays a part.
So without further adue - did you know that Kryztal is in love with you?
He did comment on it, on Scrapheap
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SFCrazy
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Posted - 2009.09.11 11:22:00 -
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I just love the way people think too know how it went .. but the truth clearly is nobody does except for the people who are really involved in it so people comon just shut your pie holes cause all of you make less sense then f90 and sfs
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Steve Celeste
Caldari
Overdogs
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Posted - 2009.09.11 11:25:00 -
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This was all planned at the BBQ, just so you know.
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Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.09.11 11:39:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Ceralio
Originally by: Victor Vision
Edited by: Victor Vision on 11/09/2009 10:23:43
Originally by: SirMolle
I'll refrain from commenting on all the idjit conspiracy theories.
Good choice Mr.Molle, good choice....
He did comment on it, on Scrapheap
Right.
Molle's post you are referring to is filled with anger and dissapointment towards you, SFS.
From my point of view understandably so.
At the same time, it states that the ships were meant to be sold, and the isk split between the former BoB corps.
If you allow, let me give you my perspective on the whole deal. I rarely do this, since it makes me tangible - in addition this is rather speculative I must admit:
The former BoB corps have undoubtly been through a lot, thus the idea came up to sell off some assets to gather fluent isk.
You were trusted with the transport of the ships, but could not resist the temptation to steal them.
Personally I think isk was less of an issue for you, I think you did it to gain 'importance' and 'fame'.
I am also rather sure you do regret your actions by now, but are unable to admit to it.
You were surprised how well the first auction went, and got greedy. The greed disabled your sense of judgement, thus the 'mishap' when transferring the ship to F.
On F's actions I am uncertain. It may be true noble spirit to want to return the ships - or their value in isk - to their 'rightful' owners. His actions may as well have a whole different set of motivations. I am rarely familiar with Mr.F so I could not tell.
You know, the bizarre part if this whole story is that if someone like Mr. Shogaatsu had done the theft, he would probably have been a celebrated hero.
By the way, did Mr.Shogaatsu buy the second state raven for 100 bil?
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE HistoryWiki |
Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:15:00 -
[306]
Originally by: CamMan
Originally by: Lana's Alt
Edited by: Lana''s Alt on 11/09/2009 06:40:19
Originally by: CamMan
Common sense would dictate that if there was any truth to SFS's story then he loses nothing by showing F90 the logs that prove it and getting his ship back by a direct trade, so again why is Chribba's name being mentioned?
I think SFS is not convinced that F90 will return the ship after the information has been released. And TBH neither am I.. So far F90 has refused to give the ship to anyone else and has refused to use Chibby. If the information were released then it is likely that F90 will just say its made up and never give up the ship. Even if it were 100% verifiable then I think it would be likely that F90 wouldn't return the ship because he had been played..
TL;DR: SFS has nothing to gain by just releasing the information without getting the ship back in return. F90 has nothing to gain either way. Its not going to happen.
Huh? in this game of theoreticals, SFS has nothing to lose bar some logs that supposedly varify his fancy tale. F90 has a 182 bill isk ship to lose, you do the math and work out who has more to lose. If SFS is so adamant then why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is and put up the other two special ships to Chribba, F90 puts up his state raven in Molle's name, and the person telling the truth between SFS and Molle gets them all? You wont see that happen as SFS knows he is lying, and is trying to scam the state raven back from F90, who is too intelligent to fall for his tricks.
TLDR; Lana's Alt has no clue
OK, read what I said again, then read what you said.. Then read the thread again.. Its F90 that refuses to use Chibby...
Either way what will happen if it were done your way is that SFS will present his truth, then F90 will say its a lie, they will both produce evidence then Chibby will have to make a judgement call as to which is right, the other will then say that Chibby has ruined his reputation by showing favouritism and the argument will continue, except that Chibby will be stuck with all 3 ships and the isk and wont want any of them.
Also, FYI, last I saw Chibby already has one of the ships anyway for the auction. (I haven't checked if that's still running though)
(I can also call him Chibbykun if you prefer)
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lana's Alt
Chibbykun if you prefer)
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
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Kva Plexcha
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Posted - 2009.09.11 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kva Plexcha on 11/09/2009 16:34:29
I dunno Lana, I think you need to look at it from a different perspective.
F9 refuses to use Chribba, when "he could and the truth would be revealed"
but by the same token,
Ceralio refuses to release the proof, which he "could simply post it here" and in theory F9 has said he would return the ship.
Both have "stole" ships here, for vastly different reasons, on the surface. F9 has apparantely given up part of his rep, his 3rd party neutral service, while enhancing another part of his rep, displaying high "moral" standards. If proof is revealed by Ceralio and F9 doesn't give the ship back, he has nothing at all. If Ceralio's proof was that solid, he could simply force F9 to either live up to his new strong morale convictions by displaying said proof, and in the event that F9 doesnt return the ship, his "rep" is toast. Either way, right now Ceralio only has 2 ships atm. F9 has his rep and a ship. The info revealed, and true, causes at minimum F9 to lose his rep if he keeps the ship.
Follow this?
On the other hand, Ceralio has trashed his rep with all concerned, no one is denying he has stolen something, conspiracy or not, this is what he is saying about himself, "look at me the great thief".
So why believe anything he says? There is no need to go to Chribba, but if Ceralio insists, because he is so sure, then he should turn all the ships over and reveal all, then get them back.
I dont know if one is already with Chribba for auction .. but whatever.
TL;DR - Both parties have options that could resolve this or reveal this in the next 5 minutes if either choose to, but neither have.
Edit: stupid monkey typing for me keeps making spelling mistakes
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Elyseum
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Posted - 2009.09.11 18:28:00 -
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this was all planned out
anyone with a brain would have given each ship to a different person instead of placing all that risk and potential for theft in the hands of one pilot
'they' wanted a fake fall guy and a bunch of attention to drive the price up
standard misinformation/manipulation campaign. your elected leaders pull this crap daily.
f9 just wasn't in on it and threw a wrench into the gears.
/armchair private eye
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Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.12 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Lana''s Alt on 12/09/2009 01:01:30
Originally by: Kva Plexcha
TL;DR - Both parties have options that could resolve this or reveal this in the next 5 minutes if either choose to, but neither have.
Then we are in agreement.
I understand why both parties don't want it resolved too, but it doesn't really matter. Until something happens with the ship this is going nowhere.
Edit: OMG, your monkeys attacked me!
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Ceralio
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.09.12 21:10:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1174666&page=1
TRIBAL TEMPEST IS UP FOR LOTTERY!
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.09.12 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ceralio
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1174666&page=1
TRIBAL TEMPEST IS UP FOR LOTTERY!
I have a 3rd party holding service if you need.
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Zheren Huli
Ikazuchi and Raikou Syndicate
Federation of Active Commonwealth Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:37:00 -
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While he might have ruined his 3rd party business for your eyes...
I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years.
Thats judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people.
This is a sandbox, concord aint the law the community defines it. In this case F90 did what he thought was right and i can only say hats of for this, showing all this "win at all cost" wannabes who jump on the next best train what it means to have spine and that its no weakness to show some morals.
people he did hurt: sfscammer
people whos evelife he made better: the people who will benefit of the isk. which means several corps and/or certain member.
So you flame him for choosing community over himself? Wow all of you must be sad lonely guys, but hey at least theres a bandwagon you can jump on and do all buddy buddy until the next backstab.
F90 showed a blink of how eve used to be and i am thankful for that reminder, if i ever use 3rd party it will be you :).
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zheren Huli
While he might have ruined his 3rd party business for your eyes...
I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years.
Thats judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people.
This is a sandbox, concord aint the law the community defines it. In this case F90 did what he thought was right and i can only say hats of for this, showing all this "win at all cost" wannabes who jump on the next best train what it means to have spine and that its no weakness to show some morals.
people he did hurt: sfscammer
people whos evelife he made better: the people who will benefit of the isk. which means several corps and/or certain member.
So you flame him for choosing community over himself? Wow all of you must be sad lonely guys, but hey at least theres a bandwagon you can jump on and do all buddy buddy until the next backstab.
F90 showed a blink of how eve used to be and i am thankful for that reminder, if i ever use 3rd party it will be you :).
sandbox - a gaming experience you make for yourself right?
So if you claim this to be a true sandbox, then how can you disagree with people who choose espionage, sabotage and theft as tools to use within there sandbox?
Everyone's sandbox is different, and this is a game, "sfscammer" as you have dubbed him it just having fun in his sandbox, his own way.
Sad lonely guys? So effectively your saying your ideal of the sandbox is the correct one, and those of us who believe F9 has gone over the line of a 3rd party are wrong?
Does that not go against your idea of the sandbox in the first place?!
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I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years.
That's judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people."
well actually we have judged F9, a person who used his reputation of a trusted 3rd party (to the community you mention) to get his hands on the spoils of a theft and denied it from that person, and thus by his actions judged by some to be an invalid 3rd party option.
You cant state how things used to be and should be, as sand changes with the wind, just as it does in RL.
Respectfully you contradict your own arguments so much in your post I was going to take it apart a little more (read: all of it). however you are welcome to your opinions but please make more effort to make sure those opinions fit together :P 
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Zheren Huli
Ikazuchi and Raikou Syndicate
Federation of Active Commonwealth Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.09.17 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
sandbox - a gaming experience you make for yourself right?
So if you claim this to be a true sandbox, then how can you disagree with people who choose espionage, sabotage and theft as tools to use within there sandbox?
Everyone's sandbox is different, and this is a game, "sfscammer" as you have dubbed him it just having fun in his sandbox, his own way.
Sad lonely guys? So effectively your saying your ideal of the sandbox is the correct one, and those of us who believe F9 has gone over the line of a 3rd party are wrong?
Does that not go against your idea of the sandbox in the first place?!
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I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years.
That's judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people."
well actually we have judged F9, a person who used his reputation of a trusted 3rd party (to the community you mention) to get his hands on the spoils of a theft and denied it from that person, and thus by his actions judged by some to be an invalid 3rd party option.
You cant state how things used to be and should be, as sand changes with the wind, just as it does in RL.
Respectfully you contradict your own arguments so much in your post I was going to take it apart a little more (read: all of it). however you are welcome to your opinions but please make more effort to make sure those opinions fit together :P
i am mainly talking to all this people that take this game too seriously and blame others on it.
however would it make sense for me to argue with a person that has no ethics or moral floscels? i doubt so. hense any argument with you would be waste of time.
regarding the sandbox, you are right. but i thought of a rule of the major collective which got totaly lost in this game as it breaks down in more and more groups and you cant speak of the average community anymore which is kind of sad in my eyes - and in the end we are all limited to what ccp things is the freedom they can allow us via sandbox.
*ike marketregulations they can put in anytime when you need more npc goods to run the new gatesystems... but well who knows ;)*
talking about "there" sandbox is rather irrelevant as theres just 1 server dont you think so?
having fun in his sandbox aswell, you forgot theres only one with parts for everyone of us, hense any action as also shown in the butterfly movie of ccp can move a chain of reaction so in my oppinion he got one of the worse chain of actions to be estimated next to loosing his face and raging in this thread ^^.
I never claimed there to be an "ideal" of the sandbox, i merely stated that the point where the community would act as one is long over and we live rather in a sandbox with divided space of pro and con where theres no acctual mutal law.
Also you state that robbing a thief cause and giving it back is a bad thing as the thief put effort into it? you must got one contradicted mind if you ask me, doubt you would see it this way if i drive of with your car and sell it over some internet provider.
Acctualy i can state as things used to be as eve has a timeline that can easily be followed so try harder on this.
About not readon all of my post, wow you must really suck in reading if its so hard for you ^^, but if you cant do it properly i can understand that logical bridges are an impossible thing for you.
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Tebis
BlackTalon Mining Corp
G-R-I-E-V-A-N-C-E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tebis on 17/09/2009 12:48:58
i find it funny that you refer to people who take this game too seriously..
if you ask me.. you are taking it just as serious as the people you are basically labeling as morally bankrupt
this is a video game.. an amazing in depth video game that allows for a person to do whatever the hell they like .. even more so than in real life because the only punishment is the disdain from people like you rather than actual repercussions from law enforcement
sure you have a point.. the people are showing little or no morals
but you say f9 was "judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people."
first.. how was he working as a community? i don't understand this.. he acted alone and brought sirmolle into it (atleast from what i understand)
second.. how is he working against the harm of people? who are you to judge what harms people more .. who are you to judge who will be using the isk most advantageously for the betterment of eve.. this entire ordeal was all for the benefit of a few people.. originally the benefit of SFS.. and now the benefit of molle and possibly the other bob corps (which is nowhere close to the entire community of eve)
get off your high horse and play the game .. stop taking it so seriously and let these people do whatever the hell they want without passing judgment ... has this in any way affected you?
f9 lost his credibility with everyone but the morality police it seems .. but in the end i doubt he cares.. he stated that he wasn't making much money 3rd partying anyway
i bet half the people who are saying they would or would not use him because of this .. have little use for 3rd partys anyway
edit: spelling and what not
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Zheren Huli
Ikazuchi and Raikou Syndicate
Federation of Active Commonwealth Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Zheren Huli on 17/09/2009 16:04:35
Originally by: Tebis
Edited by: Tebis on 17/09/2009 12:48:58
i find it funny that you refer to people who take this game too seriously..
clearly posting my point of view that goes against yours is taking the game too seriously... yes indeed lols
Originally by: Tebis
Edited by: Tebis on 17/09/2009 12:48:58
if you ask me.. you are taking it just as serious as the people you are basically labeling as morally bankrupt
but you say f9 was "judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people."
first.. how was he working as a community? i don't understand this.. he acted alone and brought sirmolle into it (atleast from what i understand)
like the last post above me you need a higher skilllvl in reading and understanding of sentence structures since the subject that is refered to obviously is community of the previous sentence...
Originally by: Tebis
Edited by: Tebis on 17/09/2009 12:48:58
second.. how is he working against the harm of people? who are you to judge what harms people more .. who are you to judge who will be using the isk most advantageously for the betterment of eve.. this entire ordeal was all for the benefit of a few people.. originally the benefit of SFS.. and now the benefit of molle and possibly the other bob corps (which is nowhere close to the entire community of eve)
well first of all sfs stole the ships so the original benefit was ment to be for the bob corps and as i get it certain member who helped in archiving them so to say "originally the benefit of sfs" is a total wrong argument.
but you tell me that stealing funds from several people instead of stealing back from a person that robbed a lot of others beform aint more harm? again just lol at the oppinion most people in this game have now adays.
also i was never speaking that it would benefit all of eve, but acctualy F90 showed that morals arent forgotten by all which is a nice thing i pointed out.
Originally by: Tebis
Edited by: Tebis on 17/09/2009 12:48:58
get off your high horse and play the game .. stop taking it so seriously and let these people do whatever the hell they want without passing judgment ... has this in any way affected you?
again no reason to get all aggro because i simply post my oppinion to this, telling me to get of my high horse just because i tell what i think acctualy puts you on one.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:22:00 -
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Zheren Huli you are impossible to argue with on any matter as any argument against what you belive you just flip over and send it right back!
the person against you is the one who is emo, and you are the one who is not. No matter what your opinion is 100% correct in your head and no counter arguments are even being accepted or considered.
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Tebis
BlackTalon Mining Corp
G-R-I-E-V-A-N-C-E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tebis on 17/09/2009 17:44:02
Originally by: Zheren Huli
clearly posting my point of view that goes against yours is taking the game too seriously... yes indeed lols
it has nothing to do with going against my point of view.. i never ever said i went against your point of view .. i agreed that it showed low morals.. but the fact that you are so emphatically defending f9s actions shows that you indeed are taking it serious
Originally by: Zheren Huli
like the last post above me you need a higher skilllvl in reading and understanding of sentence structures since the subject that is refered to obviously is community of the previous sentence...
oh you mean the words "I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years." please enlighten me as to where you even defined what community you speak of.. he never was working "as" a community or even with it.. he worked alone
don't blame my reading comprehension because you suck at making a point.. i can only assume that you aren't a native english speaker
Originally by: Zheren Huli
well first of all sfs stole the ships so the original benefit was ment to be for the bob corps and as i get it certain member who helped in archiving them so to say "originally the benefit of sfs" is a total wrong argument.
but you tell me that stealing funds from several people instead of stealing back from a person that robbed a lot of others beform aint more harm? again just lol at the oppinion most people in this game have now adays.
also i was never speaking that it would benefit all of eve, but acctualy F90 showed that morals arent forgotten by all which is a nice thing i pointed out.
first off.. the "ordeal" i mentioned in my previous started with sfs's corp theft.. which was for his benefit .. if you don't think it was you are a fool
as for stealing from 1 person compared to stealing from many .. thats a foolish argument ... the only way SFSs was more harmful was because he stole more isk.. not because he stole it from multiple people.. stealing is stealing and i don't know what world you live in.. but where i live, vigilante justice is looked down upon because it circumvents the law system.. what happened to two wrongs don't make a right? thats a very very old mentality
Originally by: Zheren Huli
again no reason to get all aggro because i simply post my oppinion to this, telling me to get of my high horse just because i tell what i think acctualy puts you on one.
keep the trolls comming 
i'm not getting "aggro" i just found your post ironic and thought i'd comment on it .. you are free to post your opinion (however silly it might be )
i don't see how i'm on a high horse at all.. i didn't even take a stand on the issue ..if you think i did.. then you need to take your own advice about getting a higher skill level in reading comprehension..
i just tried to question your explanations .. in eve just like in the real world.. there is no black and white right and wrong ... what if SFS stole it to prevent molle from using the isk to pay off some guy in goons to pull a haargoth (pulling this out at random.. not suggesting its true cause it would probably never happen).. but the point is you don't know the full extent of the situation .. noone does except molle and SFS
i couldn't care less who stole what .. its an online game which allows for pure freedom .. if you wanna play like that more power to you.. i just find people, who take this whole right vs wrong stand and claim that all morality is lost, to be very silly and misguided
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Zheren Huli
Ikazuchi and Raikou Syndicate
Federation of Active Commonwealth Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
Zheren Huli you are impossible to argue with on any matter as any argument against what you belive you just flip over and send it right back!
the person against you is the one who is emo, and you are the one who is not. No matter what your opinion is 100% correct in your head and no counter arguments are even being accepted or considered.
Since i mostly state my own oppinion it would be bad to not 100% believe in it or? try harder with logic like Tebis but you proof the point i made at the end of the last reply i gave you, thanks ;).
as about tebis:
Originally by: Tebis
it has nothing to do with going against my point of view.. i never ever said i went against your point of view .. i agreed that it showed low morals.. but the fact that you are so emphatically defending f9s actions shows that you indeed are taking it serious
acctualy i have a good laugh at a scammer being scammed and as i stated i admire f90 for the courage he has shown to choose the good of some over the good of a single person which actions dont really show that he deserves it *out of my sandbox point of view before you try to pin me again on this lmao*.
Originally by: Tebis
oh you mean the words "I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years." please enlighten me as to where you even defined what community you speak of.. he never was working "as" a community or even with it.. he worked alone
don't blame my reading comprehension because you suck at making a point.. i can only assume that you aren't a native english speaker
well you must lol. the community is the eve community *really such a hard thing to get?*, and where again do i "personify" him as a community? if its not about comprehension than what?
Originally by: Tebis
first off.. the "ordeal" i mentioned in my previous started with sfs's corp theft.. which was for his benefit .. if you don't think it was you are a fool
as for stealing from 1 person compared to stealing from many .. thats a foolish argument ... the only way SFSs was more harmful was because he stole more isk.. not because he stole it from multiple people.. stealing is stealing and i don't know what world you live in.. but where i live, vigilante justice is looked down upon because it circumvents the law system.. what happened to two wrongs don't make a right? thats a very very old mentality
you mean the ordeal started with the occurrence to make such a corp theft. no occurrence no theft thats an easy thing dont you think so? the occurence had a meaning nonetheless that shouldt be left out just because it dont fits in any hypothesis.
to the second paragraph, well bascicly he stole it from multiple people, kinda lot to be honest as he stole it from corporations ;).
two wrongs make a right in math, and i guess we all know the story of robin hood. i think its rather something that should be applied in this case since the community *lets make it easier for you -> average eve population <-* dont lives by a law other than concord anyway.
Originally by: Tebis
i'm not getting "aggro" i just found your post ironic and thought i'd comment on it .. you are free to post your opinion (however silly it might be Laughing)
yes after reading your posts i really have to agree to the last part ^^.
Originally by: Tebis
i just tried to question your explanations .. in eve just like in the real world.. there is no black and white right and wrong
uhm let me remind you at this
Originally by: Tebis
stealing is stealing and i don't know what world you live in.. but where i live, vigilante justice is looked down upon because it circumvents the law system.. what happened to two wrongs don't make a right? thats a very very old mentality
sounds familar eh?
Originally by: Tebis
i couldn't care less who stole what.. its ..blabla
so why you do it?
Haargoth like you mentioned aswell also shows just another example of lost moral so if i say "mostly" lost, i got proof. do you?
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Tebis
BlackTalon Mining Corp
G-R-I-E-V-A-N-C-E
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zheren Huli
well you must lol. the community is the eve community *really such a hard thing to get?*, and where again do i "personify" him as a community? if its not about comprehension than what?
look back to my original post "working as a community against the harm of people." your words.. you used as.. its confusing as hell wording.. and of course i knew it was the eve community i'm just saying he worked alone and your statement made no sense
Originally by: Zheren Huli
you mean the ordeal started with the occurrence to make such a corp theft. no occurrence no theft thats an easy thing dont you think so? the occurence had a meaning nonetheless that shouldt be left out just because it dont fits in any hypothesis.
to the second paragraph, well bascicly he stole it from multiple people, kinda lot to be honest as he stole it from corporations ;).
two wrongs make a right in math, and i guess we all know the story of robin hood. i think its rather something that should be applied in this case since the community *lets make it easier for you -> average eve population <-* dont lives by a law other than concord anyway.
eh i guess i can concede that but i was speaking about the theft and that seemed fairly obvious to me ... however.. you use robin hood.. he was still considered a thief and there are legitimate reason to say he was doing wrong even if it did benefit others
Originally by: Zheren Huli
Originally by: Tebis
i just tried to question your explanations .. in eve just like in the real world.. there is no black and white right and wrong
uhm let me remind you at this
Originally by: Tebis
stealing is stealing and i don't know what world you live in.. but where i live, vigilante justice is looked down upon because it circumvents the law system.. what happened to two wrongs don't make a right? thats a very very old mentality
sounds familar eh?
i have no idea what you are talking about here.. in the first statement i'm talking about issues of morality.. in the second i'm talking about issues of law.. sure there is little gray area in terms of law (well.. some areas of law.. lawyers pull out plenty of gray area in courts)
either way.. law != morality
Originally by: Zheren Huli
so why you do it?
why do i do what?? did you even read what i wrote? i said i don't care about the theft .. which i have taken little stance on the theft as you recognized above..
what you failed to quote was the part where i mention the morality issue.. which is what all my posts have been about.. more reading comprehension please?
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:51:00 -
[322]
If I were Chribba, I would want nothing to do with this particular situation unless it was to be the 3rd party for auctioning off the other ships...
...I'm sure he's smart enough to not want to be involved with anything other than x amount of isk for x item (or something of similar nature)...I don't think he got into the business to become a judge and jury on The People's Court.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 23:04:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Barakkus
If I were Chribba, I would want nothing to do with this particular situation unless it was to be the 3rd party for auctioning off the other ships...
...I'm sure he's smart enough to not want to be involved with anything other than x amount of isk for x item (or something of similar nature)...I don't think he got into the business to become a judge and jury on The People's Court.
which is what makes him a GOOD 3rd party, no judging, just neutral 3rd party!
Chribba ftw tbh
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.09.18 00:26:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Xtreem
which is what makes him a GOOD 3rd party, no judging, just neutral 3rd party!
Chribba ftw tbh
When this situation initially went down, it was rather daunting to think there may actually be no third parties you can actually trust for top level transactions.
Thankfully Chribba has proven to be truly neutral. Live and learn.
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Amy Mouse
Intersteller Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:09:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Htrag
Originally by: Xtreem
which is what makes him a GOOD 3rd party, no judging, just neutral 3rd party!
Chribba ftw tbh
When this situation initially went down, it was rather daunting to think there may actually be no third parties you can actually trust for top level transactions.
Thankfully Chribba has proven to be truly neutral. Live and learn.
I hope so, and I hope he continues to be neutral. Heaven forbid, if he actually turns to the dark side!
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Maximus Trollus
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:26:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Amy Mouse
I hope so, and I hope he continues to be neutral. Heaven forbid, if he actually turns to the dark side!
with darkside you mean sitting in station all day spamming ******ed contracts ?
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Amy Mouse
Intersteller Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:30:00 -
[327]
Edited by: Amy Mouse on 18/09/2009 07:32:41
Originally by: Maximus Trollus
Originally by: Amy Mouse
I hope so, and I hope he continues to be neutral. Heaven forbid, if he actually turns to the dark side!
with darkside you mean sitting in station all day spamming ******ed contracts ?
woot!
I might start that up again, but im having trouble finding a chinese farmer spammer partner :)
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Maximus Trollus
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:42:00 -
[328]
"hey guise, I so totaly pee'd in my neighbours mailbox, I'm ****ing HARDCORE !!!"
"no wai"
"wai"
I present you: the darkside... ahem...
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Amy Mouse
Intersteller Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.09.18 08:01:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Maximus Trollus
"hey guise, I so totaly pee'd in my neighbours mailbox, I'm ****ing HARDCORE !!!"
"no wai"
"wai"
I present you: the darkside... ahem...
This guy is ****ING hardcore. Im sooo going to pee in my neighbor's mailbox, because its so evil and awesome.
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Vallour
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Posted - 2009.09.18 08:48:00 -
[330]
lol molle is one to talk, i seem to remember him losing his titan then borrowing another titan from another bob member and then refusing to give it back, which he later lost...
I say f9' takes this into consideration and gaves that poor bugger that state issue raven as compensation.
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