Originally by: Roman

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Originally by: Jedi Nite

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You Know SFS: I would still trust F90 more than I would ever trust you
Go Figure.
Well Done F90

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Regardless of whether the State Raven is returned to Molle I find it more than amusing that a thief got scammed.

Well played.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Regardless of whether the State Raven is returned to Molle I find it more than amusing that a thief got scammed.

Well played.

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Originally by: Mersault

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Presuming you got your ISK, if so why care?

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Originally by: Armag3ddon

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Regardless of whether the State Raven is returned to Molle I find it more than amusing that a thief got scammed.

Well played.

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I dont see a scam here, the idiot bought the thing for 180 Bill then like the idiot he is gave it back to molle for free.

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Originally by: Vladic Ka

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[21:18:10] SFShootme > first a carrier that goes boom, then mr viper had to find one of my goon alts, and now i'm down 182b ;(

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Armag3ddon

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Regardless of whether the State Raven is returned to Molle I find it more than amusing that a thief got scammed.

Well played.

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I dont see a scam here, the idiot bought the thing for 180 Bill then like the idiot he is gave it back to molle for free.

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Originally by: Vladic Ka

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[21:18:10] SFShootme > first a carrier that goes boom, then mr viper had to find one of my goon alts, and now i'm down 182b ;(

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You don't?

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Originally by: Amber Saint

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If anything, more people will trust him after this

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Originally by: Scatim Helicon

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You handed a state raven over without taking payment?

Jesus christ SFS you're the dumbest human being alive

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Told you, enjoy the consequences. :-)

1 down, 2 to go. Watch your six.

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Lol wags, if you want a ****storm i can give you one. "Watch your back"

But then again i'm not rlly like that and i still got 2 more uniques.

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Originally by: Mersault

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BoB fan boys drool and everyone else wonders why the hell he didnt use Chribba

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Lol wags, if you want a ****storm i can give you one. "Watch your back"

But then again i'm not rlly like that and i still got 2 more uniques.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Lol wags, if you want a ****storm i can give you one. "Watch your back"

But then again i'm not rlly like that and i still got 2 more uniques.

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IT IS ONLY THE INTERNET!

And they're not unique, just fyi. Rare, sure, but unique? sry, nop!

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Lol wags, if you want a ****storm i can give you one. "Watch your back"

But then again i'm not rlly like that and i still got 2 more uniques.

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Main Entry: unique
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: one-of-a-kind; without equal

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Lol wags, if you want a ****storm i can give you one. "Watch your back"

But then again i'm not rlly like that and i still got 2 more uniques.

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IT IS ONLY THE INTERNET!

And they're not unique, just fyi. Rare, sure, but unique? sry, nop!

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an e-****storm in that case Tris. Tbh, i doubt i will, i still lub ya all.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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And they're not unique, just fyi. Rare, sure, but unique? sry, nop!

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Originally by: Scatim Helicon

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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And they're not unique, just fyi. Rare, sure, but unique? sry, nop!

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This one's pretty much unique, its the only State Raven to be stolen twice!

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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What really happened...

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Originally by: Scatim Helicon

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You know despite all our differences its good that once in a while Goonswarm and Triumvirate and Kenzoku and ATLAS and everyone else have something we can all come together and unite over - pointing and laughing at SFS for being a gigantic moron.

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Originally by: Lisento Slaven

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In other words...you can't use F9 for stolen goods.

At least we can still use Chribba to peddle our stolen stuff.

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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it does get progressively longer.

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Originally by: Xtreem

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regardless of who scammed who, and who deserved it or not, a 3rd party trader should never use his own morals to judge a sale, and simply act as the middle man he was hired to be.

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I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise.
Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.

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Originally by: DmitryEKT

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The state raven was not 'stolen' in the first place, it's just a way to raise isk for the owner without appearing so desparate for cash that they're selling their uber-rare boat. This is just a continuation of that ploy.

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Originally by: Jedi Nite

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You Know SFS: I would still trust F90 more than I would ever trust you
Go Figure.
Well Done F90

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Originally by: Shigsy

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Both parties are idiots.

SFS lost 180b, f9 lost his 3rd party business.

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.

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Originally by: T'Amber

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Brilliant. This is why I use F90OEX.

I have no idea of who is involved, and even less about the politics involved, but the fact that F9 would risk his 3rd party status by making a desicion like this only makes me more satisified with using him as my 3rd party. The fact that he made nothing out of this is also to his credit, all isk was returned to the people he was purchasing the ship for.


-T'amber

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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I'm sorry, but if your going to use F90 now then you may as well use me. He's stolen more ISK now than I have have.

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 07/09/2009 06:17:24

Originally by: Lana's Alt

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I'm sorry, but if your going to use F90 now then you may as well use me. He's stolen more ISK now than I have have.

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Poor thing.

Console yourself with this; it wasn't stealing what he did. He got handed a stolen Picasso and instead of selling it for the thief he returned it to the museum.

So, he might not be trusted to be a good FENCE but I would trust him as a third party with my RL bankroll, my car and my mother. Whereas you would drive off to the horizon yelling 'so long, sucker!', dumping my mum at the first gas station and spending my money on booze, guns and ammo. There is a big difference, Lana :)

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Originally by: VoiceInTheDesert

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 07/09/2009 06:17:24

Originally by: Lana's Alt

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I'm sorry, but if your going to use F90 now then you may as well use me. He's stolen more ISK now than I have have.

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Poor thing.

Console yourself with this; it wasn't stealing what he did. He got handed a stolen Picasso and instead of selling it for the thief he returned it to the museum.

So, he might not be trusted to be a good FENCE but I would trust him as a third party with my RL bankroll, my car and my mother. Whereas you would drive off to the horizon yelling 'so long, sucker!', dumping my mum at the first gas station and spending my money on booze, guns and ammo. There is a big difference, Lana :)

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While I do not condemn this scam/theft, it was that. Saying "it was returning it to the rightful owner" is all well and good, but the fact remains that his "right" and "wrong" overrode his professional obligation, leading him to "liberate" the ship back to it's "rightful owner."

Admirable or not, most people who are not ex-BOB will probably not trust him any more because they will be unsure if his sense of "justice" might kick in again and cost them their stuff.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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How on earth can his sense of justice prevail if his client is actually selling "their own" stuff? (ie, it is actually theirs and not stolen)

Does not compute.

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Originally by: Peter Powers

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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What really happened...

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This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions. :(

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Originally by: Replestil

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Wow way to ruin your 3rd party business. No one in their right mind will use F9 anymore. Well, except T'Amber, because that's the only way he can pull off his ships of eve lotto scams, by using a scammer 3rd party.

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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How on earth can his sense of justice prevail if his client is actually selling "their own" stuff? (ie, it is actually theirs and not stolen)

Does not compute.

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I thought I put it pretty clearly im my previous post.. If you sell things through F90 now it doesn't matter if its your own stuff or not, it now matters if he believes its your stuff.. So.. We'll try a couple of different scenarios that I hope will help.

Scenario 1 - Clear cut
I take a Nyx from Person A. I offer it up for sale and use F90 as a 3rd party. Person A complains to F90 and he sees what I have done and returns the Nyx to Person A leaving me with nothing. Essentially this is what he has done here, and you believe this is the right thing to do.

Scenario 2 - Muddy Waters
I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. Before it sells I manage to take a Nyx from Person A. Person A complains to F90 that I stole a Nyx and I have a Nyx for sale through him. Its obvious what I have done.. Does F90 return the other Nyx to make up for the loss? Should he?

Scenario 3 - The con
I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. Person A doesn't like me very much and fabricates a lot of evidence that I stole the Nyx from him. Person A complains to F90 that I stole the Nyx from him. F90 believes him. Does F90 return the Nyx? Obviously he shouldn't, but he doesn't know its a con, so im going with yes he will.

Scenario 4 - Friends helping friends
I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. My alliance is at war with another alliance and im going to use the ISK to help fund the war. F90 is friendly with the alliance I am at war with. He is asked (even pressured) buy the other alliance to give them the Nyx. Will he give it to them?

My whole point is, in a situation where you are relying 100% on trust, why would you trust someone that has already proven they cant be trusted?

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Originally by: REFINERALTINNIT

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Everyone involved in this story is a dumbass

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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How on earth can his sense of justice prevail if his client is actually selling "their own" stuff? (ie, it is actually theirs and not stolen)

Does not compute.

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I thought I put it pretty clearly im my previous post.. If you sell things through F90 now it doesn't matter if its your own stuff or not, it now matters if he believes its your stuff.. So.. We'll try a couple of different scenarios that I hope will help.

Scenario 1 - Clear cut
I take a Nyx from Person A. I offer it up for sale and use F90 as a 3rd party. Person A complains to F90 and he sees what I have done and returns the Nyx to Person A leaving me with nothing. Essentially this is what he has done here, and you believe this is the right thing to do.

Scenario 2 - Muddy Waters
I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. Before it sells I manage to take a Nyx from Person A. Person A complains to F90 that I stole a Nyx and I have a Nyx for sale through him. Its obvious what I have done.. Does F90 return the other Nyx to make up for the loss? Should he?

Scenario 3 - The con
I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. Person A doesn't like me very much and fabricates a lot of evidence that I stole the Nyx from him. Person A complains to F90 that I stole the Nyx from him. F90 believes him. Does F90 return the Nyx? Obviously he shouldn't, but he doesn't know its a con, so im going with yes he will.

Scenario 4 - Friends helping friends
I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. My alliance is at war with another alliance and im going to use the ISK to help fund the war. F90 is friendly with the alliance I am at war with. He is asked (even pressured) buy the other alliance to give them the Nyx. Will he give it to them?

My whole point is, in a situation where you are relying 100% on trust, why would you trust someone that has already proven they cant be trusted?

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Originally by: Nekmet Awai

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Awesomely done :D
would use such a third party.. like that at least some still have morale ingame ;)

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Regardless of whether the State Raven is returned to Molle I find it more than amusing that a thief got scammed.

Well played.

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Originally by: Nekmet Awai

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there is a VERY big different from a 1 out of 2 in the whole universe ship and something like a mom/titan which you can just make again.

he returned it since it is a extreme collectible which should not be destroyed by some moron with to much isk that don't have the sense of how much it is really worth.

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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So, he might not be trusted to be a good FENCE but I would trust him as a third party with my RL bankroll, my car and my mother. Whereas you would drive off to the horizon yelling 'so long, sucker!', dumping my mum at the first gas station and spending my money on booze, guns and ammo. There is a big difference, Lana :)

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Originally by: Zeba

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Its all the pron. Fappy people are happy people

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[21:18:10] SFShootme > first a carrier that goes boom, then mr viper had to find one of my goon alts, and now i'm down 182b ;(

Originally by: Ceralio

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This thread is ending up to be quite lol'ish, haha.

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Loosing your neutrality as a 3rd party guy to give the ship back to Molle. Not that i rlly care, i still got 2 more unique ships.

Well played tough.

F90OEX > np, this is not about the isk. SFS... don;t know how to stay this but this ship is going back to the righfull owner/s .... whoever that might be. I dont need the isk from it nor do I need the ship, but what u did was not right.

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Both parties are idiots.

SFS lost 180b, f9 lost his 3rd party business.

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Originally by: Lag Generator

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Quote:

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Both parties are idiots.

SFS lost 180b, f9 lost his 3rd party business.

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This.

Though SFS is a much greater idiot for using the third party service in the first place, while a contract would've done the trick.

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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nah less trusted because his whim is more important than his reputation, but then i never would've trusted him in the first place since i have no clue who he is

only third party i'd trust atm is chribba

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Originally by: DmitryEKT

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The state raven was not 'stolen' in the first place, it's just a way to raise isk for the owner without appearing so desparate for cash that they're selling their uber-rare boat. This is just a continuation of that ploy.

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Originally by: Rawr Cristina

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nice publicity stunt by F90

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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Originally by: Lag Generator

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Quote:

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Both parties are idiots.

SFS lost 180b, f9 lost his 3rd party business.

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This.

Though SFS is a much greater idiot for using the third party service in the first place, while a contract would've done the trick.

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He didn't use a 3rd party.. F90 won the auction and didn't pay.. Hes still an idiot for not using a contract though...

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Originally by: Queue K'Umber

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It is unseemly when a player becomes a self-congratulatory poastaholic

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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it does get progressively longer.

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Originally by: Gypsio III

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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Originally by: Lag Generator

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Quote:

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Both parties are idiots.

SFS lost 180b, f9 lost his 3rd party business.

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This.

Though SFS is a much greater idiot for using the third party service in the first place, while a contract would've done the trick.

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He didn't use a 3rd party.. F90 won the auction and didn't pay.. Hes still an idiot for not using a contract though...

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Well, according to the auction thread, F90 didn't win, some alt had the highest bid. Whether this was all a setup and that's an F90/Molle alt is unclear.

So presumably then F90 was contracted as a third party to move the ship out of lowsec.

*yoink*

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Well, he just burnt his rep as a trustworthy third party.

He can have alts and friends bump the thread as much as he likes, but he can no longer be trusted to remain impartial- in short no longer a good middleman.

And yes, i still think this is just Molle or someone else equally highly placed recycling assets to fund new towers for a winter attempt on Sov. and trying to save face.

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Originally by: Shamisen

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It would be safe to say that very few knew who F90 was before this. Well, now the whole of eve does.

Highly publicized theft is rare, and whatever scammer business he may have lost over this, he gained far more in return.

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Originally by: Shamisen

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He also gained a mention in the annals of eve history, which is something almost none of us now will ever have.

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Originally by: Shamisen

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It would be safe to say that very few knew who F90 was before this. Well, now the whole of eve does.

Highly publicized theft is rare, and whatever scammer business he may have lost over this, he gained far more in return. He also gained a mention in the annals of eve history, which is something almost none of us now will ever have.

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Good Going, in this game it is to easy to be a rodent and much harder to be a man, nice to see a bit of integrity left in the game.

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Originally by: Zan X'Y

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Edited by: Zan X''Y on 07/09/2009 16:58:10
The most entertaining thing about this thread are those former-BoB forum warriors sperging around here. Well, I guess if you get it into your face and butt for the past 12 months, you grasp every straws you can get hold off to act relevant on the forums (and it's not even enough for CAOD where the big boys are playin'). Who got robbed 2 times within a half year's time? Ow, right... BNC, he. So pathetic, all of you.

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: Zan X'Y

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Edited by: Zan X''Y on 07/09/2009 16:58:10
The most entertaining thing about this thread are those former-BoB forum warriors sperging around here. Well, I guess if you get it into your face and butt for the past 12 months, you grasp every straws you can get hold off to act relevant on the forums (and it's not even enough for CAOD where the big boys are playin'). Who got robbed 2 times within a half year's time? Ow, right... BNC, he. So pathetic, all of you.

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This guy right here seems upset about something don't you think?

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: Zan X'Y

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Edited by: Zan X''Y on 07/09/2009 16:58:10
The most entertaining thing about this thread are those former-BoB forum warriors sperging around here. Well, I guess if you get it into your face and butt for the past 12 months, you grasp every straws you can get hold off to act relevant on the forums (and it's not even enough for CAOD where the big boys are playin'). Who got robbed 2 times within a half year's time? Ow, right... BNC, he. So pathetic, all of you.

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This guy right here seems upset about something don't you think?

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Originally by: Zan X'Y

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sperging

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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He didn't use a 3rd party.. F90 won the auction and didn't pay.. Hes still an idiot for not using a contract though...

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Loosing your neutrality as a 3rd party guy to give the ship back to Molle. Not that i rlly care, i still got 2 more unique ships.

Well played tough.

F90OEX > np, this is not about the isk. SFS... don;t know how to stay this but this ship is going back to the righfull owner/s .... whoever that might be. I dont need the isk from it nor do I need the ship, but what u did was not right.

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Originally by: Palmer Eldritch

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Loosing your neutrality as a 3rd party guy to give the ship back to Molle. Not that i rlly care, i still got 2 more unique ships.

Well played tough.

F90OEX > np, this is not about the isk. SFS... don;t know how to stay this but this ship is going back to the righfull owner/s .... whoever that might be. I dont need the isk from it nor do I need the ship, but what u did was not right.

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I don't trust any of this but Iam choosing to believe it is true as it is very funny.

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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nah less trusted because his whim is more important than his reputation, but then i never would've trusted him in the first place since i have no clue who he is

only third party i'd trust atm is chribba

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Since no one trusts you, who could possibly give a f**k who you trust or what you think.


Good Going, in this game it is to easy to be a rodent and much harder to be a man, nice to see a bit of integrity left in the game.

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Originally by: Solisk

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Well-played, F9, well-played.

With so many crimes going unpunished in Eve, it's nice to see Robin Hoods emerge.

You have gained my business if/when I need a third-party service in the future.

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Originally by: fmercury

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Originally by: Solisk

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Well-played, F9, well-played.

With so many crimes going unpunished in Eve, it's nice to see Robin Hoods emerge.

You have gained my business if/when I need a third-party service in the future.

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Have fun getting your **** took when he decides that your deal isn't Morally Correct. Also if he's really giving it back to molle, it's not exactly robin hood. Unless robin hood stole from the rich and gave to the even richer. Which wasn't my interpretation.

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.

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Originally by: F90OEX

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After chatting with SirMolle last night that is not what is going to happen. Atm several options are been looked at, but what ever one is selected, the people who won this ship I have, the Isk will be split between them only.

Molle's intentions where to have the ships moved from 0.0 and over the next weeks was to sell them, the ISK profited was going to be give to the people who won them.

Of course that won't happen since SFS who was given them so they could be moved out of 0.0, decided that he would just keep them and any of the Isk he made.

Again as agreed with Sirmolle everything else will be said at a later date, but in the 6-7pages here as usual there is a lot of misinformation and speculation posted by some throw away alts.

Til then /

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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So.. The translation for the mentally challenged who still things F90 is trustworthy.. "One of my friends got some stuff stolen so I pretended to be trustworthy and stole it back for them"..

F90's trusted 3rd party service. Trusted unless my friends don't like you.

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Originally by: Replestil

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Wow way to ruin your 3rd party business. No one in their right mind will use F9 anymore. Well, except T'Amber, because that's the only way he can pull off his ships of eve lotto scams, by using a scammer 3rd party.

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: fmercury

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Originally by: Solisk

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Well-played, F9, well-played.

With so many crimes going unpunished in Eve, it's nice to see Robin Hoods emerge.

You have gained my business if/when I need a third-party service in the future.

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Have fun getting your **** took when he decides that your deal isn't Morally Correct. Also if he's really giving it back to molle, it's not exactly robin hood. Unless robin hood stole from the rich and gave to the even richer. Which wasn't my interpretation.

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After chatting with SirMolle last night that is not what is going to happen. Atm several options are been looked at, but what ever one is selected, the people who won this ship I have, the Isk will be split between them only.

Molle's intentions where to have the ships moved from 0.0 and over the next weeks was to sell them, the ISK profited was going to be give to the people who won them.

Of course that won't happen since SFS who was given them so they could be moved out of 0.0, decided that he would just keep them and any of the Isk he made.

Again as agreed with Sirmolle everything else will be said at a later date, but in the 6-7pages here as usual there is a lot of misinformation and speculation posted by some throw away alts.

Til then /

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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who still things F90 is trustworthy..

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Chai Beeta gets it....

Regarding my 3rd Party Service/s

Over the 3years of me selling Navy Ravens in the ship channel, people would ask me to move ships they either could not fly or there sec status was bad and needed the ship moved. And that's really how it started, I never charged anything I always told people send a tip no biggy, fast forward to today it was the same deal, reason ? to help people out since these days since it's not as easy to make a LOT of Isk in Eve.

I Did not provide the service to make money from it, It was never about that....Ask T'amber we did 113bil SOE2, lottery. Never asked for a penny.

People seem to be more concerned about my 3rd party service going -**** up then I am, LOL... If I want to make a few hunderd bill ISK, I will sell Navy Ravens as I did for 3years.

I knew what I was doing, I knew the crap storm it would cause and it does not effect me one bit, as I have said if people do not use my services anymore so be it....

IF people do not get it, then I give up

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Chai Beeta gets it....

Regarding my 3rd Party Service/s

Over the 3years of me selling Navy Ravens in the ship channel, people would ask me to move ships they either could not fly or there sec status was bad and needed the ship moved. And that's really how it started, I never charged anything I always told people send a tip no biggy, fast forward to today it was the same deal, reason ? to help people out since these days since it's not as easy to make a LOT of Isk in Eve.

I Did not provide the service to make money from it, It was never about that....Ask T'amber we did 113bil SOE2, lottery. Never asked for a penny.

People seem to be more concerned about my 3rd party service going -**** up then I am, LOL... If I want to make a few hunderd bill ISK, I will sell Navy Ravens as I did for 3years.

I knew what I was doing, I knew the crap storm it would cause and it does not effect me one bit, as I have said if people do not use my services anymore so be it....

IF people do not get it, then I give up

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How does it feel bieing lied to by the guy you gave this all up for?

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Chai Beeta gets it....

Regarding my 3rd Party Service/s

Over the 3years of me selling Navy Ravens in the ship channel, people would ask me to move ships they either could not fly or there sec status was bad and needed the ship moved. And that's really how it started, I never charged anything I always told people send a tip no biggy, fast forward to today it was the same deal, reason ? to help people out since these days since it's not as easy to make a LOT of Isk in Eve.

I Did not provide the service to make money from it, It was never about that....Ask T'amber we did 113bil SOE2, lottery. Never asked for a penny.

People seem to be more concerned about my 3rd party service going -**** up then I am, LOL... If I want to make a few hunderd bill ISK, I will sell Navy Ravens as I did for 3years.

I knew what I was doing, I knew the crap storm it would cause and it does not effect me one bit, as I have said if people do not use my services anymore so be it....

IF people do not get it, then I give up

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How does it feel bieing lied to by the guy you gave this all up for?

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Well til I have either proof or you want to tell the "real" story, everything will remain the same. I don't need a mail if u have anything more to add just post it here and I will look into it.

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Chai Beeta gets it....

Regarding my 3rd Party Service/s

Over the 3years of me selling Navy Ravens in the ship channel, people would ask me to move ships they either could not fly or there sec status was bad and needed the ship moved. And that's really how it started, I never charged anything I always told people send a tip no biggy, fast forward to today it was the same deal, reason ? to help people out since these days since it's not as easy to make a LOT of Isk in Eve.

I Did not provide the service to make money from it, It was never about that....Ask T'amber we did 113bil SOE2, lottery. Never asked for a penny.

People seem to be more concerned about my 3rd party service going -**** up then I am, LOL... If I want to make a few hunderd bill ISK, I will sell Navy Ravens as I did for 3years.

I knew what I was doing, I knew the crap storm it would cause and it does not effect me one bit, as I have said if people do not use my services anymore so be it....

IF people do not get it, then I give up

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How does it feel bieing lied to by the guy you gave this all up for?

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Well til I have either proof or you want to tell the "real" story, everything will remain the same. I don't need a mail if u have anything more to add just post it here and I will look into it.

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Whats in it for me? Atm i'm just lolling my ass off

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Well it is either one or the other.

#1 Sirmolle gave you the ships and you made a big post about how you stole the 3 ships.

#2 OR Sirmolle intentionally gave you the ships so you can split the isk between you 2 and whoever was in the scam and you take the hit for it.


If it turns out to be #2 then I took the ship for the wrong reasons and the amount agreed will be deposited into your account, but like I said spin it how you want just better be the 101% truth along with proof, otherwise we are wasting each others time here with some co=ck and bull story.

The ball is in your court....

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Well it is either one or the other.

#1 Sirmolle gave you the ships and you made a big post about how you stole the 3 ships.

#2 OR Sirmolle intentionally gave you the ships so you can split the isk between you 2 and whoever was in the scam and you take the hit for it.


If it turns out to be #2 then I took the ship for the wrong reasons and the amount agreed will be deposited into your account, but like I said spin it how you want just better be the 101% truth along with proof, otherwise we are wasting each others time here with some co=ck and bull story.

The ball is in your court....

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Lets use Chribba this time.
So if i proove Molle lied you will return it right?

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Well it is either one or the other.

#1 Sirmolle gave you the ships and you made a big post about how you stole the 3 ships.

#2 OR Sirmolle intentionally gave you the ships so you can split the isk between you 2 and whoever was in the scam and you take the hit for it.


If it turns out to be #2 then I took the ship for the wrong reasons and the amount agreed will be deposited into your account, but like I said spin it how you want just better be the 101% truth along with proof, otherwise we are wasting each others time here with some co=ck and bull story.

The ball is in your court....

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Lets use Chribba this time.
So if i proove Molle lied you will return it right?

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So are you saying you made your story up along with your theft post and the #2 option is correct ?

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired.

Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :)

SKUNK

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired.

Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :)

SKUNK

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Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread.

Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it ....


Either post the truth or I am done with it.

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it ....

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.

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Originally by: Ceralio

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How does it feel bieing lied to by the guy you gave this all up for?

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Originally by: Bender

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Interesting, no the other one ... tedious

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired.

Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :)

SKUNK

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Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread.

Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it ....


Either post the truth or I am done with it.

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In that case i guess your going to have to life with it that you gave your 3rd party service up while bieing lied to.

Eitherway, since i can't exactly say i trust you with another 0.01 isk, i wont be saying **** before chribba gets involved.

Have fun with your hangar ornament if you decide to back out.

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired.

Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :)

SKUNK

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Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread.

Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it ....


Either post the truth or I am done with it.

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In that case i guess your going to have to life with it that you gave your 3rd party service up while bieing lied to.

Eitherway, since i can't exactly say i trust you with another 0.01 isk, i wont be saying **** before chribba gets involved.

Have fun with your hangar ornament if you decide to back out.

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rubico1337

Yep but he forgets who he is playing with

Ceralio
Re-read post 168, and as for the ship it was moved far away today for ISD who needed some pictures

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further.

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Originally by: Ceralio

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what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless?

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Originally by: Ceralio

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what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless?

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Nothing like circus trickery I love it !!!

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further.

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what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless?

Have fun with your state raven!

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Originally by: Bender

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Interesting, no the other one ... tedious

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:

1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)

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Originally by: CamMan

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Originally by: Ceralio

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Which one is it #1 or # 2.... until I see either 1 or 2 in your post, no reason to discuss this further.

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what if its all or none of the above and youre just plain clueless?

Have fun with your state raven!

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I smell desperation in the air .....

Why so angry SFS?
is it because your lies are transparent?
is it because karma is a biatch?
is it because F90OEX is smarter then you?
is it because you trashed your name and regret it?
is it because F90OEX enhanced his reputation at your expense?
or is it all of the above?

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Ceralio has done nothing but lied, stole and made up as he goes along to suit his own needs

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Originally by: Coranor

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:

1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)

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That was me, pay attention there.

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Edited by: F90OEX on 09/09/2009 01:27:59
Le Skunk,

It's on my terms or nothing, I am not going to be "played" into anything at this stage if he does not like it too bad.

Ceralio has done nothing but lied, stole and made up as he goes along to suit his own needs since no one is interested in his lottery nor the other ship, as stated he either post what he has or move on.....

Also the ship would not go back to Molle since he has already agreed with me once the ship is sold or isk raised from a lottery, the isk would go back to the players who won the the ship I have.

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: Coranor

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:

1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)

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That was me, pay attention there.

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If I borrow 50 dollars from a friend, and then give that 50 dollars to a tramp who then spends the 50 dollars. Does the tramp owe my friend 50 dollars? Or do I owe my friend 50 dollars?

SKUNK

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Originally by: Coranor

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: Coranor

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:

1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)

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That was me, pay attention there.

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If I borrow 50 dollars from a friend, and then give that 50 dollars to a tramp who then spends the 50 dollars. Does the tramp owe my friend 50 dollars? Or do I owe my friend 50 dollars?

SKUNK

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You thought about that a while didn't you?

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Originally by: F90OEX

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Le Skunk

Again understand but I won't get Chribba involved in this mess, I have nothing to lose at this point, the people who say they won't use me as 3rd party, would not use me anyways or have nothing to use me for.

"BTW: If Molle indeed was involved, then OFC he will try to cover it up by asking for the isk to be spread amongst the winner. This proves nothing"

Your right it does not prove anything, but at least the isk goes to the right players and that's all that matters at this point.

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Originally by: CamMan

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Originally by: Ceralio

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How does it feel bieing lied to by the guy you gave this all up for?

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You really are the slime of the earth SFS, you betray Molle's trust in stealing the 3 state ships, and karma bites you in the ass, now you are still trying to spin more BS in getting them back, in the process trying to drag Molles name through the mud.

Stop your lies, you little worm.

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Originally by: Brother Vengence

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Le Skunk is putting alot of effort into backing superfail.. anyone else smell a superfailshootme alt?

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I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise.
Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.

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