Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, Adam Ridgway's name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

Adam Ridgway posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

I really hope it was worth it, for Adam Ridgway's sake.

The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Laconian Syndicate is in here full force defending an NDA breaker. I wonder how many of them would be willing to forgive a carebear that found himself under the same circumstances .

The hypocrisy of the C&P crowd is beyond amusing.

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Originally by: Vaden Khale

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Give me a minute and I'll prepare my Chewbacca defense.

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Originally by: Anderson Williams

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Laconian Syndicate is in here full force defending an NDA breaker. I wonder how many of them would be willing to forgive a carebear that found himself under the same circumstances .

The hypocrisy of the C&P crowd is beyond amusing.

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LOL.. aww thats cute. We wouldnt care.. it hits close to home. WHO CARES what he did.. Did it hurt you? Are you scared? Seeking counseling over this? Grow up, or come to low sec.

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Originally by: Mynxee

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Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:54:41
Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:53:53

Originally by: Issler Dainze

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...I may never be able to be elected to be in the CSM again because my "second" term is now the dredges of Trak's.

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If that was a matter of such concern, you could always have declined the invitation to step into Lark's seat, in order to preserve your ability to run again and IF you got elected be able to carry on with your agenda from the get-go.

An active CSM spends 20 hours a week doing that job? Seriously? I find that difficult to believe. Some weeks perhaps, but not the average week. Unless they are trust fund babies or have no other life.

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I don't understand why CSMs' real life names are required to be publicly exposed by CCP. They don't require it for ISD volunteers. So why for the CSM delegates? I would guess most folks would prefer to keep their gaming activities separate from their RL activities unless they were already working in the gaming industry. A volunteer job like the CSM should not require revealing your real name to anyone but CCP. It's just not information the player base needs to know to make an informed decision about who to vote for.

The way Lark's RL name is being repeatedly bandied about in this thread--in ways deliberately intended to affect search engine results--is really ****ty. Did you ever stop to think about the fact that it could indeed affect his ability to get a job in the future when some overzealous background checker finds this tempest in a teapot thread in an archive somewhere? WTF is wrong with you? This is a real person we're talking about. He made a dumb mistake in a volunteer position related to a virtual universe and involving virtual money. He 'fessed up. It's done with. Give it a friggin break already. CCP should delete this thread altogether or at least remove Lark's RL name from every post that contains it...although the damage is probably done now WRT search engines.

FWIW if he ran again, he'd get ALL my accounts' votes. Even if I was running myself, I'd vote for Lark.

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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte

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Originally by: Vaden Khale

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Give me a minute and I'll prepare my Chewbacca defense.

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king kong. the other chewbacca.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Laconian Syndicate is in here full force defending an NDA breaker. I wonder how many of them would be willing to forgive a carebear that found himself under the same circumstances .

The hypocrisy of the C&P crowd is beyond amusing.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 10:31:51

ADAM RIDGWAY

BITTER BITTER HATERER!

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And those of you gaming his name in this thread should be ****ing ashamed of yourselves. Hypocritical mouthbreathers that cant separate a game from real life.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 10:31:51
He shouldnt be perma'd. Thats all i have to say on the matter- but barring him from ever being in the CSM again is probably a good idea.


101th Monkey reporting for duty

His name was Larkonis Tassler

His name was Larkonis Tassler

His name was Larkonis Tassler

His name was Larkonis Tassler

EDIT:

And those of you gaming his name in this thread should be ****ing ashamed of yourselves. Hypocritical mouthbreathers that cant separate a game from real life.

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Originally by: Lil'Bunneh FoFo

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crotch

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Originally by: CCP Tuxford

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Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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I think the one that can't distinguish real life from game is you. CSM isn't a role-playing position. It's a position meant to improve the gaming experience of players and better CCP as a company. It wasn't Larkonis Trassler the pirate that travelled to Iceland and met up with the devs to give ideas on how to improve the game. It was Adam Ridgamacallit. Adam Ridgamacllit wasn't flown to Iceland to go act like an idotic pirate to ransack CCP and cheat. Can you tell the difference between role-playing a pirate and actually breaking real-life rules, NDAs, and EULAs? I don't think so.

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Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega

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Am I the only one who voted for lark specifically so he would do this kind of thing?

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.

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Originally by: Slave 2739FKZ

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Finally, real consequences for in-game actions, RL namecalling and bashing

Just sayin'

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 15:18:12
Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 15:17:30

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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I think the one that can't distinguish real life from game is you. CSM isn't a role-playing position. It's a position meant to improve the gaming experience of players and better CCP as a company. It wasn't Larkonis Trassler the pirate that travelled to Iceland and met up with the devs to give ideas on how to improve the game. It was Adam Ridgamacallit. Adam Ridgamacllit wasn't flown to Iceland to go act like an idotic pirate to ransack CCP and cheat. Can you tell the difference between role-playing a pirate and actually breaking real-life rules, NDAs, and EULAs? I don't think so.

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Guy makes a not inconsiderable investment of his own time, raises and supports Issues in the Assembly hall, takes the pulse of the community and sees the concerns of such presented to CCP.

Then he tries some insider trading on for size. This of course completely invalidates everything else he has done.

I guess people who pirate in game really are RL Bad People/Evil Grifers etc...

Also, the moon is made of cheese, Matrix Skye Mk.1 was a quality poster and bitter carebears dont want Lark perma banned.

Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega

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Am I the only one who voted for lark specifically so he would do this kind of thing?

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Well, he did get a lot of votes from the Istavaan crowd.

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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Anything below a permanent ban of lark and all associated accounts is merely a invitation to future CSM members to try such stunts in much larger scale. Dropping legal action should be the only leniency in this incident.

A 30 day ban is a laughable slap on the wrist for a blatant breach of trust between the CSM and CCP and a permanently staining of the trustworthiness of the CSM.

There can be no tolerance for this.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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Originally by: Liiza Valora

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.

Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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Anything below a permanent ban of lark and all associated accounts is merely a invitation to future CSM members to try such stunts in much larger scale. Dropping legal action should be the only leniency in this incident.

A 30 day ban is a laughable slap on the wrist for a blatant breach of trust between the CSM and CCP and a permanently staining of the trustworthiness of the CSM.

There can be no tolerance for this.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 15:55:54

Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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NDAs, EULAs, and legal docs in general are just fun and games, C/D?

Oh, except when we're talking about Chinese farmers... Those are just fckrs in real life that don't have souls for breaking and cheating rules, C/D?

Oh, and logoffskies fools... Those fckers are just cheaters that refuse to play by the rules... They're useless cheating metagamers, C/D?

So basically, only those that p!ss us off are the cheaters that deserve permabans. If they're someone from your corp, or non carebears, then we need to realize it's just a game and they're only humans that deserve second chances, C/D?

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Originally by: Incantare

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Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.

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Originally by: Sir Dancealot

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Edited by: Sir Dancealot on 10/09/2009 16:00:49

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 15:55:54

Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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NDAs, EULAs, and legal docs in general are just fun and games, C/D?

Oh, except when we're talking about Chinese farmers... Those are just fckrs in real life that don't have souls for breaking and cheating rules, C/D?

Oh, and logoffskies fools... Those fckers are just cheaters that refuse to play by the rules... They're useless cheating metagamers, C/D?

So basically, only those that p!ss us off are the cheaters that deserve permabans. If they're someone from your corp, or non carebears, then we need to realize it's just a game and they're only humans that deserve second chances, C/D?

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you are trying way, way too hard
edit: I, too, can alt post
WK

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