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Ed sampson
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:05:00 -
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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.
I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:
 Originally by: De'Veldrin
Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.
1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.
2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.
3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.
Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.
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fmercury
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: fmercury on 10/09/2009 16:11:06
Originally by: Ed sampson
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.
I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.
1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.
2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.
3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.
Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCoClvLb4Y
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Jogvan
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:21:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Ed sampson
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.
I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.
1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.
2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.
3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.
Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.
Posting with another alt to make it look like more people are sharing your views? 
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J'mee Leggs
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:40:00 -
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ITT Too many people taking this far too seriously. He screwed up. He admitted it. He's laughing about it. So should we all.
Just a game yadda yadda yadda.
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:08:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Shigsy
Originally by: Issler Dainze
Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.
Issler
Lucky what you think means nothing really, since you didn't get voted in.
Technically, I was "voted in". I got enough votes to be the first alternate and now after this a full CSM. So, yes I was voted in.
Issler
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species2143
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Issler Dainze
Originally by: Shigsy
Originally by: Issler Dainze
Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.
Issler
Lucky what you think means nothing really, since you didn't get voted in.
Technically, I was "voted in". I got enough votes to be the first alternate and now after this a full CSM. So, yes I was voted in.
Issler
Yet you're not getting a plane ticket to Iceland... Can I have your stuff?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:21:00 -
[187]
Originally by: species2143
Yet you're not getting a plane ticket to Iceland... Can I have your stuff?
u mad? yes. u mad.
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species2143
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: species2143
Yet you're not getting a plane ticket to Iceland... Can I have your stuff?
u mad? yes. u mad.
On the contrary, I'm highly entertained. First she repeatedly makes posts complaining about not being able to go to Iceland and stuff and now she even has to justify her presence as a CSM. Can't say this isn't entertaining
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Funkert
Volatile Nature
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Funkert on 10/09/2009 18:17:39
Originally by: Liiza Valora
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.
Originally by: Ed sampson
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.
I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:
Ah look the defenders of everything good and fluffy..... you sure the above sentiments have nothing to do with the feud you and NSPTA seem to be having for ages? (involving all kinds of RL stuff too if i had to believe C&P)
To all the hateful types hoping to destroy someone's real life ....
are you serious? what's next? reporting EVE pirates to their RL bosses because they have 'questionable morals'?
the way i see it Adam R. did not even break his NDA.... as he did not leak any information. He did however, let his ingame alter ego trade on basis of insider information and should be punished indeed. How harsh? well thats up to ccp, and not a bunch of jealous carebears
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Capt Lothar
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Liiza Valora
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.
Originally by: Ed sampson
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.
Says the "grown adult" who phoned up a former member of NSPTA on his real life telephone and ridiculed/threatened him.
You are a sad, sad man desperately grasping at everything in your reach to get Lark thrown out of the game because he is the biggest thorn in your side in Eve. You can't fight him in game, so you resort to this hypocritical nonsense. I truly feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you in real life.
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Hester Shaw
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Lothar
Serious burn
That's gotta hurt.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Dissonance Corp
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:00:00 -
[192]
I dunno, other people have been permabanned for less. Good thing he was part of the CSM and has fellow CSM members making threads in Assembly Hall to undo the slap on the wrist he got. Great institution.
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Verizana
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:01:00 -
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After reading all sides and looking at all ends I came to a result.
Honestly ppl feeling butthurt about this should get a life, or go play Goverments Online . Indeed I know what he did was wrong but after all it was a drunk accident thinking the info was out, and once found out, he did step down as CSM. Point proven by the "light" ban of all his characters for 30 days: CCP realises this.
Again people thinking this game is a world of roses and decency should take a step back and really ask themselves why they play this game over other games.
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BlackMail
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:11:00 -
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This is what you get when you put a Pirate in CSM. Had to know this moron would do something like this.
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Blackmail
Cutting Edge Incorporated
All Around Good Guy
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Imertu Solientai
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:57:00 -
[195]
Originally by: BlackMail
This is what you get when you put a Pirate in CSM. Had to know this moron would do something like this.
I tried to express just how many levels of stupid went into that post in words...
I failed.
Also, for the record, If CCP want to kick him out that's fine, but the CSM never mattered anyway, and a bit more market manipulation is nothing when added on top of the seething mess of ISK buyers/sellers, L4 mission profits, and GTC sales.
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saango0
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Issler Dainze
Sorry to have appeared "whiny" about the whole thing. I definitely support the CSM and intend to honor any commitment I made to fill in.
I was just not so happy about how I found out about this and dissappointed that someone that took part in the CSM process did something that could damage any support the pilots of Eve have given the CSM.
On some level though, it is pretty epic, elect a pirate and what do you know, they act like a pirate! 
Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.
Issler
imo you should be grateful, you owe your unelected csm spot to him.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 23:15:37
Originally by: Imertu Solientai
but the CSM never mattered anyway, and a bit more market manipulation is nothing when added on top of the seething mess of ISK buyers/sellers, L4 mission profits, and GTC sales.
Read as: We didn't want that CSM anyway...
And yes, L4 mission profits is akin to an NDA/EULA violation.
The least Lark could do is pay money to someone that isn't rtarded to come defend him with better excuses than the ones you lot provide, as it's obvious his friends are failing him miserably. These are just quality excuses. Keep them coming!
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saango0
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Mynxee
Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:54:41
Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:53:53
Originally by: Issler Dainze
...I may never be able to be elected to be in the CSM again because my "second" term is now the dredges of Trak's.
If that was a matter of such concern, you could always have declined the invitation to step into Lark's seat, in order to preserve your ability to run again and IF you got elected be able to carry on with your agenda from the get-go.
An active CSM spends 20 hours a week doing that job? Seriously? I find that difficult to believe. Some weeks perhaps, but not the average week. Unless they are trust fund babies or have no other life.
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I don't understand why CSMs' real life names are required to be publicly exposed by CCP. They don't require it for ISD volunteers. So why for the CSM delegates? I would guess most folks would prefer to keep their gaming activities separate from their RL activities unless they were already working in the gaming industry. A volunteer job like the CSM should not require revealing your real name to anyone but CCP. It's just not information the player base needs to know to make an informed decision about who to vote for.
The way Lark's RL name is being repeatedly bandied about in this thread--in ways deliberately intended to affect search engine results--is really ****ty. Did you ever stop to think about the fact that it could indeed affect his ability to get a job in the future when some overzealous background checker finds this tempest in a teapot thread in an archive somewhere? WTF is wrong with you? This is a real person we're talking about. He made a dumb mistake in a volunteer position related to a virtual universe and involving virtual money. He 'fessed up. It's done with. Give it a friggin break already. CCP should delete this thread altogether or at least remove Lark's RL name from every post that contains it...although the damage is probably done now WRT search engines.
FWIW if he ran again, he'd get ALL my accounts' votes. Even if I was running myself, I'd vote for Lark.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps a potential employer might want to know they're interviewing a candidate that has obviously demonstrated his inability to be trustworthy? In Internet Spaceships, this is lulz. in the Real World, this is the kind of activity that gets your employer looked at by the SEC and fined, normally to the tune of million of real life dollars.
Yeah, I think if I were an recruiting manager, this is exactly the kind of thing I'd want to know.
We're not discussing the ISK, or the manipulation of the in game market (or at least that's not what I give a damn about) We're talking about his ability to keep to a legal document that he signed.
"Oh sorry. I decided not to pay my mortgage because I was drunk. I admit that was really stupid. Can I have my house back?"
Seriously?
You really need to get out more.. There is more to life than internet spaceships. You seriously think a potential employer would give a **** about his actions in a video game?? Your argument is ridiculous, "in internet spaceships it's lulz, in the Real World.." That's what you seem to be missing, this is a game- IRL he would also get in trouble for scamming people or holding them ransom.
However it doesn't matter this is a game.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 23:35:40
Originally by: saango0
You really need to get out more.. There is more to life than internet spaceships. You seriously think a potential employer would give a **** about his actions in a video game?? Your argument is ridiculous, "in internet spaceships it's lulz, in the Real World.." That's what you seem to be missing, this is a game- IRL he would also get in trouble for scamming people or holding them ransom.
However it doesn't matter this is a game.
You need to learn the distinction between a game and a company whose product is a game. CCPs profits depend on the health of its product (the game). So yes, a company would care if its employee is breaking a Non Disclosure Agreement which compromises the health of its product, which in this case, happens to be a game. The insanity of this all is that I actually hold hope you could understand this when in reality I know you're incapable of doing so, as Laconian Whatever proves over and over again on this thread.
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Arathon Theimies
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Arathon Theimies on 10/09/2009 23:34:47
LARK HAS BEEN FRAMED!!!!
He has been caught up in the conspiracy of the CIA, Fidel Castro and Rosie O'Donnel to assasinate Jeff Missimer. THIS WILL BE DEALT WITH!!!
Truth and Honour, Larkonis Trassler for CSM!!! |
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saango0
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:48:00 -
[201]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 23:35:40
Originally by: saango0
You really need to get out more.. There is more to life than internet spaceships. You seriously think a potential employer would give a **** about his actions in a video game?? Your argument is ridiculous, "in internet spaceships it's lulz, in the Real World.." That's what you seem to be missing, this is a game- IRL he would also get in trouble for scamming people or holding them ransom.
However it doesn't matter this is a game.
You need to learn the distinction between a game and a company whose product is a game. CCPs profits depend on the health of its product (the game). So yes, a company would care if its employee is breaking a Non Disclosure Agreement which compromises the health of its product, which in this case, happens to be a game. The insanity of this all is that I actually hold hope you could understand this when in reality I know you're incapable of doing so, as Laconian Whatever proves over and over again on this thread.
His actions compromised the health of EVE? He got drunk and used some insider info to make pixel money.. If a potential employer came across this thread (internet spaceship discussion forum), why would he care? Also, how did he break the NDA? He didn't actually leak any information. I haven't actually read the agreement so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Professor Claw
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:52:00 -
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WOW some you guys/gals take this seriously.
Tbh knowing lark this whole debarcle is probably one large troll he planned after a night with Stella.
Ps. CCP can I have a free trip to iceland too?
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Professor Claw
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: saango0
Also, how did he break the NDA? He didn't actually leak any information. I haven't actually read the agreement so please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ah well there is an innocent casulty (CCP PLS CONTACT THIS PERSON AS NOT REPLYING IS NOT HELPFUL AND RUDE). If CCP told the true story of why lark went ahead and purchased the moon mineral in question rather than waiting or getting someone else to do it, the whole story would make sense and people would have not wasted thier time posting here.
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Capt Lothar
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:46:00 -
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Since my post was deleted with no explanation, I'll assume I broke no rules and repost it.
Originally by: Liiza Valora
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.
Originally by: Ed sampson
Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.
Says the "grown adult" who phoned up a former member of NSPTA on his real life telephone and ridiculed/threatened him.
You threatened former members of your corp that you would come to their houses and inflict bodily harm to them. You phoned up Lark's university and tried convincing them that he had "hacked your database", as you so eloquently put it, in an insane attempt to get him kicked out of school.
You sir, have a serious mental health problem. Of that there is no question. Subsequently, any suggestions or remarks you make should be summarily ignored as nothing more than the incoherent ramblings of a drunken pre-schooler.
You are a sad, sad man desperately grasping at everything in your reach to get Lark thrown out of the game because he is the biggest thorn in your side in Eve. Obviously Lark and the rest of NSPTA have had such a dramatic effect on you and your corp that you feel the urge to resort to this hypocritical nonsense.
I truly feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you in real life.
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Alia Xi
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.09.11 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
You need to learn the distinction between a game and a company whose product is a game. CCPs profits depend on the health of its product (the game). So yes, a company would care if its employee is breaking a Non Disclosure Agreement which compromises the health of its product, which in this case, happens to be a game. The insanity of this all is that I actually hold hope you could understand this when in reality I know you're incapable of doing so, as Laconian Whatever proves over and over again on this thread.
AFAIK he didn't break an NDA because he didn't disclose anything to anyone. He did use his knowledge for personal gain and profiteering (who knows if that was in the NDA but lets not confuse an RL NDA relation to game 'secrets' and those conditions which relate to a CSM, their knowledge and ingame activities) which "has been dealth with" - see what I did there?
I haven't seen anyone quit the game because of a moment of madness by a particular CSM, and I highly doubt that CCP are going to lose 20,000 subscribers over this, let alone 20! The health of the game is just fine. The calls for him to be hung for high treason, as I said in my previous post, are way overboard and just an instant kneejerk reaction.
There's also the old adage "There's no such thing as bad publicity".
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SunGod RA
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.11 03:58:00 -
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did yoU AT LEAST GET THEM TO SEED SMURGLEBLASTER ARGHSjcxcvb!@#$ ⚔⚓!☠☢$%
*dies of thirst in a deep remote barren region of space*
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Lucia Antonius
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.11 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lucia Antonius on 11/09/2009 06:07:37
Those who are here demanding more serious punishment can waste their (and other's) time if they want but it doesn't change anything.
I don't see any reason why CCP should care about our opinion. CCP decides rules, it decided what reads in agreements CSM members had to agree. It's solely CCP decision what is or is not appropriate punishment in this kind of situation.
EDIT: last phrase is not related to this matter. It's just poorly thinked and written sig.
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders.
Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.09.11 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lucia Antonius
Edited by: Lucia Antonius on 11/09/2009 06:17:48
Edited by: Lucia Antonius on 11/09/2009 06:07:37
Those who are here demanding more serious punishment can waste their (and other's) time if they want but it doesn't change anything.
I don't see any reason why CCP should care about our opinion. CCP decides rules, it decided what reads in agreements CSM members had to agree. It's solely CCP decision what is or is not appropriate punishment in this kind of situation.
EDIT: Sig corrected.
It is obvious to many, that any discussion about harsher or lighter punishment is not meant to change CCP sentence but to get players opinion about this type of stunt.
Is normal for the laconians to spam the forum with ôthis is just a gameö or ôget a lifeö type of approach. Of course, as they are strong personalities they are doing this not because it was ôsuggested ôon their forums and corp channel. That being said one can decide how much weight can put on their opinion.
Time will tell if the respective EVE entity will capitalise on this publicity. I certainly hope not.
My biggest problem is that he decided to act on inside information and he did that at a mediocre level (1.5 bil can not produce decent income). Is not only a rule breaker but a mediocre one.
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.09.11 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: saango0
Originally by: Issler Dainze
Sorry to have appeared "whiny" about the whole thing. I definitely support the CSM and intend to honor any commitment I made to fill in.
I was just not so happy about how I found out about this and dissappointed that someone that took part in the CSM process did something that could damage any support the pilots of Eve have given the CSM.
On some level though, it is pretty epic, elect a pirate and what do you know, they act like a pirate!
Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.
Issler
imo you should be grateful, you owe your unelected csm spot to him.
Troll much lately?
I WAS elected to this spot. And this spot means the best and most productive part of a term as a CSM has been wasted on this sad panda of a pirate. To throw away his position for 2.5 billion isk is pretty pathetic. We spent more than that on our 1st PvP tourny match Saturday.
So everyone wanted to know what I think makes it a challenge for me. I was not in Iceland to be in the NDA discussions, there is no way for me to be brought up to speed as to what I missed. I was never able to present any of the issues I might have felt as important this term 1:1 with the devs.
Some of you might say this is because I think I missed out on a ticket to Iceland. No, I still get one from CCP for Fanfest, so for me this is NOT about a free trip to Iceland. This is about missing out on the one real opportunity the CSM have to REALLY interact with CCP in some manner that might be effective.
I am impressed with the pro Lark alt spamage here in the forum topic. Lark seems to have many faces. Of course a good scammer/pirate would.
I only wish CCP had taken a little more time to realize how big an issue this really was and chosen perma-ban not not a 30 day holiday. This is a serious set back for the credibility of the CSM. I have no idea why the other CSM members remain silent about this incident. I can't imagine how they don't see how their credibility as an organization was horribly damaged by Adam Ridgway's actions.
I have been told that I am able to run for reelection for another term should I choose. I'll have to see if I'm inclined to try and run again. I can see there is enough negativity around this incident that it could complicate any attempt at a reelection.
Before any of the psuedo-larks post some dumb thing about me not be elected this term I'll point out I didn't lose by much last election even though RL kept me from any serious campaigning. And this incident is likely to make a lot of folks that maybe didn't vote realize that maybe they should next time.
The CSM is a very important experiment that CCP has created. I hope they reconsider what message such a light punishment sends to the player base. Right now it appears you can be flown to Iceland, learn all the secrets in queue, abuse that trust and if you are caught it means 30 days of WoW while you sit in the corner with a time out. In the mean time folks that seemed to do much less are tossed out for good. Not sure I understand the calibration of the ban hammer. Maybe that was something that was covered under NDA that I missed...
Issler
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Lexa Hellfury
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
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Originally by: Issler Dainze
Troll much lately?
I WAS elected to this spot. And this spot means the best and most productive part of a term as a CSM has been wasted on this sad panda of a pirate. To throw away his position for 2.5 billion isk is pretty pathetic. We spent more than that on our 1st PvP tourny match Saturday.
So everyone wanted to know what I think makes it a challenge for me. I was not in Iceland to be in the NDA discussions, there is no way for me to be brought up to speed as to what I missed. I was never able to present any of the issues I might have felt as important this term 1:1 with the devs.
Some of you might say this is because I think I missed out on a ticket to Iceland. No, I still get one from CCP for Fanfest, so for me this is NOT about a free trip to Iceland. This is about missing out on the one real opportunity the CSM have to REALLY interact with CCP in some manner that might be effective.
I am impressed with the pro Lark alt spamage here in the forum topic. Lark seems to have many faces. Of course a good scammer/pirate would.
I only wish CCP had taken a little more time to realize how big an issue this really was and chosen perma-ban not not a 30 day holiday. This is a serious set back for the credibility of the CSM. I have no idea why the other CSM members remain silent about this incident. I can't imagine how they don't see how their credibility as an organization was horribly damaged by Adam Ridgway's actions.
I have been told that I am able to run for reelection for another term should I choose. I'll have to see if I'm inclined to try and run again. I can see there is enough negativity around this incident that it could complicate any attempt at a reelection.
Before any of the psuedo-larks post some dumb thing about me not be elected this term I'll point out I didn't lose by much last election even though RL kept me from any serious campaigning. And this incident is likely to make a lot of folks that maybe didn't vote realize that maybe they should next time.
The CSM is a very important experiment that CCP has created. I hope they reconsider what message such a light punishment sends to the player base. Right now it appears you can be flown to Iceland, learn all the secrets in queue, abuse that trust and if you are caught it means 30 days of WoW while you sit in the corner with a time out. In the mean time folks that seemed to do much less are tossed out for good. Not sure I understand the calibration of the ban hammer. Maybe that was something that was covered under NDA that I missed...
Issler
Mate, we get it, you're on the CSM, you can stop making "hey look at me!" posts.
Originally by: RedSplat
The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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