1. Respect for stepping back! This is no small step considering all the work invested.


2. CCP - going public with this and revealing as much as possible is a really good step. Well done!


3. Finally, losing a CMS seat over just a few billion isk is really, arg, so stuuuuupid! I mean, if it were hundreds of billions, okay, maybe understandable. But not even ten bil? *groan* I think I will never understand such behaviour, it is completely unrational. Considering what you lose and what you could gain....

Originally by: Sandslinger of CA

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So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre

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Originally by: Gripen

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It's funny how CSM which initally supposed to fight devs misconduction now becomes a source of corruption itself. Now we have a nice excuse to close this useless program.

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Originally by: Gripen

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It's funny how CSM which initally supposed to fight devs misconduction now becomes a source of corruption itself. Now we have a nice excuse to close this useless program.

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Originally by: Mynxee

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Edited by: Mynxee on 08/09/2009 23:05:53
How about we cook up some kind of bizarre deep cover conspiracy theory for the LULZ! After all, Lark had to know his and all CSM members' actions in game are closely monitored. Further...the 5 billion ISK invested is just not that much money at the end of the day for a player who's been around as long as he has. So what is his REAL agenda for having done this?

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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1. Respect for stepping back! This is no small step considering all the work invested.


2. CCP - going public with this and revealing as much as possible is a really good step. Well done!


3. Finally, losing a CMS seat over just a few billion isk is really, arg, so stuuuuupid! I mean, if it were hundreds of billions, okay, maybe understandable. But not even ten bil? *groan* I think I will never understand such behaviour, it is completely unrational. Considering what you lose and what you could gain....

All in all, this is pretty well dealt with and all the open statements are very good!

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Originally by: Zastrow J

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Other than this event, on what facts are you basing a claim that the CSM is useless, i'm pretty curious

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Originally by: 50freefly

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SCUMBAGGERY? FROM MY PIRATE DELEGATE?

This will be dealt with.

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Originally by: Ma Eies

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Originally by: Zastrow J

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Other than this event, on what facts are you basing a claim that the CSM is useless, i'm pretty curious

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The entire concept is useless, players telling ccp ideas and concerns, doesn't that sound like the forums?

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Quote:

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Finally, losing a CMS seat over just a few billion isk is really, arg, so stuuuuupid! I mean, if it were hundreds of billions, okay, maybe understandable. But not even ten bil? *groan* I think I will never understand such behaviour, it is completely unrational. Considering what you lose and what you could gain....

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Originally by: Ma Eies

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Originally by: Zastrow J

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Other than this event, on what facts are you basing a claim that the CSM is useless, i'm pretty curious

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The entire concept is useless, players telling ccp ideas and concerns, doesn't that sound like the forums?

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Originally by: Ma Eies

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Originally by: Zastrow J

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Other than this event, on what facts are you basing a claim that the CSM is useless, i'm pretty curious

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The entire concept is useless, players telling ccp ideas and concerns, doesn't that sound like the forums?

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Originally by: Wotcher Renyolds

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why not just tell people what it was, it's not like people didn't already figure it out and clear jita out of the moongold at issue

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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab

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Originally by: Wotcher Renyolds

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why not just tell people what it was, it's not like people didn't already figure it out and clear jita out of the moongold at issue

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Him keeping his mouth shut is probably one of the conditions for not getting perma-banned. ;)

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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So uhm, wow!

I am definitely committed to the idea of the CSM and will gladly serve the remainder of the term, however, not if me assuming Lark's term would preclude me from serving as a full CSM should I be elected again.

Should I finish this term I would have missed the most important part of the CSM opportunities. I would not have been able to bring any of the issues I felt were important to the table before the CSM/CCP Iceland meeting and I would NOT have been in Iceland to meet the devs to discuss the important issues facing the Eve community.

I am hoping that CCP will announce that I will still be eligible to seek reelection to the CSM for an additional term as finishing Lark's term is more administrative then productive. I certainly can't be sure to be elected again but I want to know the option is still available to me.

Also CCP, emailing me so I could learn about this before you put it in a dev blog might have been nice!

Issler

P.S. CCP, if you can find a way to supply me with some nonni's lamb subs in a reasonably fresh form we could open negotionations... :-)

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Originally by: Lana's Alt

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Next year im voting for Cat \o/

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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tl;dr

I just read that some CSM tried to made a little profit by using insider information and then stepped back.

Three things I want to say about this:

1. Respect for stepping back! This is no small step considering all the work invested.


2. CCP - going public with this and revealing as much as possible is a really good step. Well done!


3. Finally, losing a CMS seat over just a few billion isk is really, arg, so stuuuuupid! I mean, if it were hundreds of billions, okay, maybe understandable. But not even ten bil? *groan* I think I will never understand such behaviour, it is completely unrational. Considering what you lose and what you could gain....

All in all, this is pretty well dealt with and all the open statements are very good!

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Originally by: Tamahra

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That former csm guy is such a huge as.shole, its hard to find any appropriate words for it. In my opinion, he should be found in real life and hung up the highest tree.

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Originally by: WarDecEvading NPCCorpAlt

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It's kiNd of a shamE to see this sOrt of thing come up, but it woulD probablY have been a better idea to not announce the exact date and aMount of stuff that he bought. CombIned with the fact that he was "stocking up", which woUld iMply it was a commodity with enough volume to be "stocked" but still of a limited-enough scope that it would become volatile and exploitable, the list of things it could be gets narrowed down a lot.

It would be kind of ironic if the speculators figured it out and bought out the entire Jita market's supply, and owners of it started hoarding it, because that would make this blog post more damaging than the actual incident.

I'm not saying I know what it is, but you've practically spelled it out, which might not have been a great move.

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.

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Originally by: Lana Torrin

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I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.

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Originally by: Adam Ridgway, aka. Larkonis Trassler

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...My actions in some way have undermined that which is why I have no choice but to resign from the CSM. It is a voluntary act and not a case of jumping before being pushed and I will be allowed to run for another term in the future if I so desire.

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Originally by: QwaarJet

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Total scumbag.

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Originally by: Durzel

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Is that really you Lana? Have I been trolled sublimely because I agree with the above?

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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba

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This sounds like a made up drama. We all love eve drama bombs, and sometimes they even make it into the news, which is good advertisement. But this one doesn't have enough spice, you should have added something more to it.

The guy in question wasn't very bright, that's all, doesn't mean that the other CSM members are any better, they probably do it with other accounts or via friends, so they can't be caught.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Just being in the CSM makes you the target of random war decs...

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Originally by: Jarnis McPieksu

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+1 respect for the Internal Affairs team.

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Originally by: Eefel

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Dunno what you guys are saying, but I would vote for lark again. Especially after the recent events!

He is exactly what eve needs!

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Originally by: Sanitorium Lady

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Originally by: Eefel

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Dunno what you guys are saying, but I would vote for lark again. Especially after the recent events!

He is exactly what eve needs!

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Eve needs people that ruins the game for he's own profit ?!?

Just let me ask you this , if Lark didnt get caught ,
should be fair for other people ingame what he was doing ?

Resign from the CSM was the best thing he could do !
Get back that position knowing he can act against ccp rules again
dosent seems to be a good idea.

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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Originally by: Adam Ridgway

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I will be allowed to run for another term in the future if I so desire.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

....

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

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Originally by: Dasfry

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Type Adam Ridgway, in google and you'd probably get an even wider result.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, Adam Ridgway's name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

Adam Ridgway posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

I really hope it was worth it, for Adam Ridgway's sake.

The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: Queue K'Umber

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It is unseemly when a player becomes a self-congratulatory poastaholic

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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Originally by: Dasfry

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Type Adam Ridgway, in google and you'd probably get an even wider result.

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Done. Fourth result was this thread.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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I'm a giant ***got.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, Adam Ridgway's name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

Adam Ridgway posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

I really hope it was worth it, for Adam Ridgway's sake.

The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: Andrest Disch

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Holy ****ing **** people, this is a GAME.

G-A-M-E.

The things you do in a game, don;t mean you'd do those things in real life, or you'd all be in prison right now.


PERSPECTIVE, learn to use it.

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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He crossed the line between the game and reality by violating the NDA that exactly defined the line where the game ends and reality begins. This is a real violation of trust, not just a game.

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Originally by: Wemo

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The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion reassures him that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown as well. The frog then agrees; nevertheless, in mid-river, the scorpion stings him, dooming the two of them. When asked why, the scorpion explains, "I'm a scorpion; it's my nature."

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Originally by: Wemo

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I voted for you boss and I'd do it again.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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... vindictive nonsense ...

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Originally by: OV Marius

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Will vote again

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, Adam Ridgway's name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

Adam Ridgway posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

I really hope it was worth it, for Adam Ridgway's sake.

The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

---

If anything, Adam Ridgway's name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

Adam Ridgway posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

I really hope it was worth it, for Adam Ridgway's sake.

The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: Six Strangelove

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Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler)

I may not have voted for him this time around, but I most certainly will for next year's CSM.

His actions (before, during, after) and the support he's receiving from the remaining CSMs prove to me he's just the sort of player I wish to represent my interests.

Certainly don't want you lot representing my interests. Not sure CCP could hear you over the tears anyway.

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Originally by: Machine Delta

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So have we gotten to the point where its been said that he did far less than T20 who still has a job?

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Originally by: Anderson Williams

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wat

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.

Issler

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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...I may never be able to be elected to be in the CSM again because my "second" term is now the dredges of Trak's.

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Quote:

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Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

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Originally by: Mynxee

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Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:54:41
Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:53:53

Originally by: Issler Dainze

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...I may never be able to be elected to be in the CSM again because my "second" term is now the dredges of Trak's.

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If that was a matter of such concern, you could always have declined the invitation to step into Lark's seat, in order to preserve your ability to run again and IF you got elected be able to carry on with your agenda from the get-go.

An active CSM spends 20 hours a week doing that job? Seriously? I find that difficult to believe. Some weeks perhaps, but not the average week. Unless they are trust fund babies or have no other life.

+++

I don't understand why CSMs' real life names are required to be publicly exposed by CCP. They don't require it for ISD volunteers. So why for the CSM delegates? I would guess most folks would prefer to keep their gaming activities separate from their RL activities unless they were already working in the gaming industry. A volunteer job like the CSM should not require revealing your real name to anyone but CCP. It's just not information the player base needs to know to make an informed decision about who to vote for.

The way Lark's RL name is being repeatedly bandied about in this thread--in ways deliberately intended to affect search engine results--is really ****ty. Did you ever stop to think about the fact that it could indeed affect his ability to get a job in the future when some overzealous background checker finds this tempest in a teapot thread in an archive somewhere? WTF is wrong with you? This is a real person we're talking about. He made a dumb mistake in a volunteer position related to a virtual universe and involving virtual money. He 'fessed up. It's done with. Give it a friggin break already. CCP should delete this thread altogether or at least remove Lark's RL name from every post that contains it...although the damage is probably done now WRT search engines.

FWIW if he ran again, he'd get ALL my accounts' votes. Even if I was running myself, I'd vote for Lark.

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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And those of you gaming his name in this thread should be ****ing ashamed of yourselves. Hypocritical mouthbreathers that cant separate a game from real life.

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Originally by: Six Strangelove

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Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler)

I may not have voted for him this time around, but I most certainly will for next year's CSM.

His actions (before, during, after) and the support he's receiving from the remaining CSMs prove to me he's just the sort of player I wish to represent my interests.

Certainly don't want you lot representing my interests. Not sure CCP could hear you over the tears anyway.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

---

If anything, Adam Ridgway's name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

Adam Ridgway signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

Adam Ridgway broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

Adam Ridgway was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

Adam Ridgway posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

Adam Ridgway also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.

Given equal qualifications with another applicant, would any employer want to hire the untrustworthy sexist anti-semite Adam Ridgway?

I really hope it was worth it, for Adam Ridgway's sake.

The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Laconian Syndicate is in here full force defending an NDA breaker. I wonder how many of them would be willing to forgive a carebear that found himself under the same circumstances .

The hypocrisy of the C&P crowd is beyond amusing.

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Originally by: Vaden Khale

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Give me a minute and I'll prepare my Chewbacca defense.

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Originally by: Anderson Williams

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Laconian Syndicate is in here full force defending an NDA breaker. I wonder how many of them would be willing to forgive a carebear that found himself under the same circumstances .

The hypocrisy of the C&P crowd is beyond amusing.

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LOL.. aww thats cute. We wouldnt care.. it hits close to home. WHO CARES what he did.. Did it hurt you? Are you scared? Seeking counseling over this? Grow up, or come to low sec.

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Originally by: Mynxee

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Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:54:41
Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:53:53

Originally by: Issler Dainze

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...I may never be able to be elected to be in the CSM again because my "second" term is now the dredges of Trak's.

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If that was a matter of such concern, you could always have declined the invitation to step into Lark's seat, in order to preserve your ability to run again and IF you got elected be able to carry on with your agenda from the get-go.

An active CSM spends 20 hours a week doing that job? Seriously? I find that difficult to believe. Some weeks perhaps, but not the average week. Unless they are trust fund babies or have no other life.

+++

I don't understand why CSMs' real life names are required to be publicly exposed by CCP. They don't require it for ISD volunteers. So why for the CSM delegates? I would guess most folks would prefer to keep their gaming activities separate from their RL activities unless they were already working in the gaming industry. A volunteer job like the CSM should not require revealing your real name to anyone but CCP. It's just not information the player base needs to know to make an informed decision about who to vote for.

The way Lark's RL name is being repeatedly bandied about in this thread--in ways deliberately intended to affect search engine results--is really ****ty. Did you ever stop to think about the fact that it could indeed affect his ability to get a job in the future when some overzealous background checker finds this tempest in a teapot thread in an archive somewhere? WTF is wrong with you? This is a real person we're talking about. He made a dumb mistake in a volunteer position related to a virtual universe and involving virtual money. He 'fessed up. It's done with. Give it a friggin break already. CCP should delete this thread altogether or at least remove Lark's RL name from every post that contains it...although the damage is probably done now WRT search engines.

FWIW if he ran again, he'd get ALL my accounts' votes. Even if I was running myself, I'd vote for Lark.

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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte

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Originally by: Vaden Khale

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Give me a minute and I'll prepare my Chewbacca defense.

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king kong. the other chewbacca.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Laconian Syndicate is in here full force defending an NDA breaker. I wonder how many of them would be willing to forgive a carebear that found himself under the same circumstances .

The hypocrisy of the C&P crowd is beyond amusing.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 10:31:51

ADAM RIDGWAY

BITTER BITTER HATERER!

EDIT:

And those of you gaming his name in this thread should be ****ing ashamed of yourselves. Hypocritical mouthbreathers that cant separate a game from real life.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 10:31:51
He shouldnt be perma'd. Thats all i have to say on the matter- but barring him from ever being in the CSM again is probably a good idea.


101th Monkey reporting for duty

His name was Larkonis Tassler

His name was Larkonis Tassler

His name was Larkonis Tassler

His name was Larkonis Tassler

EDIT:

And those of you gaming his name in this thread should be ****ing ashamed of yourselves. Hypocritical mouthbreathers that cant separate a game from real life.

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Originally by: Lil'Bunneh FoFo

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crotch

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Originally by: CCP Tuxford

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Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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I think the one that can't distinguish real life from game is you. CSM isn't a role-playing position. It's a position meant to improve the gaming experience of players and better CCP as a company. It wasn't Larkonis Trassler the pirate that travelled to Iceland and met up with the devs to give ideas on how to improve the game. It was Adam Ridgamacallit. Adam Ridgamacllit wasn't flown to Iceland to go act like an idotic pirate to ransack CCP and cheat. Can you tell the difference between role-playing a pirate and actually breaking real-life rules, NDAs, and EULAs? I don't think so.

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Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega

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Am I the only one who voted for lark specifically so he would do this kind of thing?

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.

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Originally by: Slave 2739FKZ

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Finally, real consequences for in-game actions, RL namecalling and bashing

Just sayin'

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 15:18:12
Edited by: RedSplat on 10/09/2009 15:17:30

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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I think the one that can't distinguish real life from game is you. CSM isn't a role-playing position. It's a position meant to improve the gaming experience of players and better CCP as a company. It wasn't Larkonis Trassler the pirate that travelled to Iceland and met up with the devs to give ideas on how to improve the game. It was Adam Ridgamacallit. Adam Ridgamacllit wasn't flown to Iceland to go act like an idotic pirate to ransack CCP and cheat. Can you tell the difference between role-playing a pirate and actually breaking real-life rules, NDAs, and EULAs? I don't think so.

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Guy makes a not inconsiderable investment of his own time, raises and supports Issues in the Assembly hall, takes the pulse of the community and sees the concerns of such presented to CCP.

Then he tries some insider trading on for size. This of course completely invalidates everything else he has done.

I guess people who pirate in game really are RL Bad People/Evil Grifers etc...

Also, the moon is made of cheese, Matrix Skye Mk.1 was a quality poster and bitter carebears dont want Lark perma banned.

Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega

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Am I the only one who voted for lark specifically so he would do this kind of thing?

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Well, he did get a lot of votes from the Istavaan crowd.

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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Anything below a permanent ban of lark and all associated accounts is merely a invitation to future CSM members to try such stunts in much larger scale. Dropping legal action should be the only leniency in this incident.

A 30 day ban is a laughable slap on the wrist for a blatant breach of trust between the CSM and CCP and a permanently staining of the trustworthiness of the CSM.

There can be no tolerance for this.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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Originally by: Liiza Valora

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.

Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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Anything below a permanent ban of lark and all associated accounts is merely a invitation to future CSM members to try such stunts in much larger scale. Dropping legal action should be the only leniency in this incident.

A 30 day ban is a laughable slap on the wrist for a blatant breach of trust between the CSM and CCP and a permanently staining of the trustworthiness of the CSM.

There can be no tolerance for this.

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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.

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If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 15:55:54

Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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NDAs, EULAs, and legal docs in general are just fun and games, C/D?

Oh, except when we're talking about Chinese farmers... Those are just fckrs in real life that don't have souls for breaking and cheating rules, C/D?

Oh, and logoffskies fools... Those fckers are just cheaters that refuse to play by the rules... They're useless cheating metagamers, C/D?

So basically, only those that p!ss us off are the cheaters that deserve permabans. If they're someone from your corp, or non carebears, then we need to realize it's just a game and they're only humans that deserve second chances, C/D?

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Originally by: Incantare

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Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.

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Originally by: Sir Dancealot

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Edited by: Sir Dancealot on 10/09/2009 16:00:49

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 15:55:54

Originally by: Wanna Kill

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natural selection is going to be a real problem for at least half the posters in this thread. It's a game.

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NDAs, EULAs, and legal docs in general are just fun and games, C/D?

Oh, except when we're talking about Chinese farmers... Those are just fckrs in real life that don't have souls for breaking and cheating rules, C/D?

Oh, and logoffskies fools... Those fckers are just cheaters that refuse to play by the rules... They're useless cheating metagamers, C/D?

So basically, only those that p!ss us off are the cheaters that deserve permabans. If they're someone from your corp, or non carebears, then we need to realize it's just a game and they're only humans that deserve second chances, C/D?

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you are trying way, way too hard
edit: I, too, can alt post
WK

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Ed sampson

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.


I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:

Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Ed sampson

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.


I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:

Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

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Originally by: Shigsy

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.

Issler

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Lucky what you think means nothing really, since you didn't get voted in.

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Originally by: Shigsy

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.

Issler

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Lucky what you think means nothing really, since you didn't get voted in.

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Technically, I was "voted in". I got enough votes to be the first alternate and now after this a full CSM. So, yes I was voted in.

Issler

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Originally by: species2143

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Yet you're not getting a plane ticket to Iceland... Can I have your stuff?

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Originally by: species2143

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Yet you're not getting a plane ticket to Iceland... Can I have your stuff?

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u mad? yes. u mad.

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Originally by: Liiza Valora

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.

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Originally by: Ed sampson

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.


I agree wholeheartedly with the quote below:

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Originally by: Liiza Valora

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.

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Originally by: Ed sampson

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.

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Originally by: Capt Lothar

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Serious burn

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Originally by: BlackMail

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This is what you get when you put a Pirate in CSM. Had to know this moron would do something like this.

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Sorry to have appeared "whiny" about the whole thing. I definitely support the CSM and intend to honor any commitment I made to fill in.

I was just not so happy about how I found out about this and dissappointed that someone that took part in the CSM process did something that could damage any support the pilots of Eve have given the CSM.

On some level though, it is pretty epic, elect a pirate and what do you know, they act like a pirate!

Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.

Issler

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Originally by: Imertu Solientai

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but the CSM never mattered anyway, and a bit more market manipulation is nothing when added on top of the seething mess of ISK buyers/sellers, L4 mission profits, and GTC sales.

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Originally by: Mynxee

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Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:54:41
Edited by: Mynxee on 10/09/2009 03:53:53

Originally by: Issler Dainze

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...I may never be able to be elected to be in the CSM again because my "second" term is now the dredges of Trak's.

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If that was a matter of such concern, you could always have declined the invitation to step into Lark's seat, in order to preserve your ability to run again and IF you got elected be able to carry on with your agenda from the get-go.

An active CSM spends 20 hours a week doing that job? Seriously? I find that difficult to believe. Some weeks perhaps, but not the average week. Unless they are trust fund babies or have no other life.


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I don't understand why CSMs' real life names are required to be publicly exposed by CCP. They don't require it for ISD volunteers. So why for the CSM delegates? I would guess most folks would prefer to keep their gaming activities separate from their RL activities unless they were already working in the gaming industry. A volunteer job like the CSM should not require revealing your real name to anyone but CCP. It's just not information the player base needs to know to make an informed decision about who to vote for.

The way Lark's RL name is being repeatedly bandied about in this thread--in ways deliberately intended to affect search engine results--is really ****ty. Did you ever stop to think about the fact that it could indeed affect his ability to get a job in the future when some overzealous background checker finds this tempest in a teapot thread in an archive somewhere? WTF is wrong with you? This is a real person we're talking about. He made a dumb mistake in a volunteer position related to a virtual universe and involving virtual money. He 'fessed up. It's done with. Give it a friggin break already. CCP should delete this thread altogether or at least remove Lark's RL name from every post that contains it...although the damage is probably done now WRT search engines.

FWIW if he ran again, he'd get ALL my accounts' votes. Even if I was running myself, I'd vote for Lark.

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Did it ever occur to you that perhaps a potential employer might want to know they're interviewing a candidate that has obviously demonstrated his inability to be trustworthy? In Internet Spaceships, this is lulz. in the Real World, this is the kind of activity that gets your employer looked at by the SEC and fined, normally to the tune of million of real life dollars.

Yeah, I think if I were an recruiting manager, this is exactly the kind of thing I'd want to know.

We're not discussing the ISK, or the manipulation of the in game market (or at least that's not what I give a damn about) We're talking about his ability to keep to a legal document that he signed.

"Oh sorry. I decided not to pay my mortgage because I was drunk. I admit that was really stupid. Can I have my house back?"

Seriously?

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Originally by: saango0

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You really need to get out more.. There is more to life than internet spaceships. You seriously think a potential employer would give a **** about his actions in a video game?? Your argument is ridiculous, "in internet spaceships it's lulz, in the Real World.." That's what you seem to be missing, this is a game- IRL he would also get in trouble for scamming people or holding them ransom.
However it doesn't matter this is a game.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 10/09/2009 23:35:40

Originally by: saango0

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You really need to get out more.. There is more to life than internet spaceships. You seriously think a potential employer would give a **** about his actions in a video game?? Your argument is ridiculous, "in internet spaceships it's lulz, in the Real World.." That's what you seem to be missing, this is a game- IRL he would also get in trouble for scamming people or holding them ransom.
However it doesn't matter this is a game.

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You need to learn the distinction between a game and a company whose product is a game. CCPs profits depend on the health of its product (the game). So yes, a company would care if its employee is breaking a Non Disclosure Agreement which compromises the health of its product, which in this case, happens to be a game. The insanity of this all is that I actually hold hope you could understand this when in reality I know you're incapable of doing so, as Laconian Whatever proves over and over again on this thread.

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Originally by: saango0

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Also, how did he break the NDA? He didn't actually leak any information. I haven't actually read the agreement so please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally by: Liiza Valora

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have his accounts banned permanently, PERIOD! By the way, I agree with all of these comments below.

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Originally by: Ed sampson

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Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway should have all of his accounts permanently ban. There is no question in my mind he deserves it for his actions. There is no do-over for breaking a non-disclosure agreement. Apology or not he is on the same level as T20. His accounts should be banned permanently, end of story. As I recall, T20 also apologized for what he did however it did not change his ban. Larkonis Trassler aka Adam Ridgway deserves a permanent ban from EVE-ONLINE.

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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2

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You need to learn the distinction between a game and a company whose product is a game. CCPs profits depend on the health of its product (the game). So yes, a company would care if its employee is breaking a Non Disclosure Agreement which compromises the health of its product, which in this case, happens to be a game. The insanity of this all is that I actually hold hope you could understand this when in reality I know you're incapable of doing so, as Laconian Whatever proves over and over again on this thread.

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Originally by: Lucia Antonius

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Edited by: Lucia Antonius on 11/09/2009 06:17:48
Edited by: Lucia Antonius on 11/09/2009 06:07:37
Those who are here demanding more serious punishment can waste their (and other's) time if they want but it doesn't change anything.

I don't see any reason why CCP should care about our opinion. CCP decides rules, it decided what reads in agreements CSM members had to agree. It's solely CCP decision what is or is not appropriate punishment in this kind of situation.

EDIT: Sig corrected.

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Originally by: saango0

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Sorry to have appeared "whiny" about the whole thing. I definitely support the CSM and intend to honor any commitment I made to fill in.

I was just not so happy about how I found out about this and dissappointed that someone that took part in the CSM process did something that could damage any support the pilots of Eve have given the CSM.

On some level though, it is pretty epic, elect a pirate and what do you know, they act like a pirate!

Me personally though, I think perma-ban is more appropriate. This is a pretty big abuse of trust.

Issler

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imo you should be grateful, you owe your unelected csm spot to him.

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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Troll much lately?

I WAS elected to this spot. And this spot means the best and most productive part of a term as a CSM has been wasted on this sad panda of a pirate. To throw away his position for 2.5 billion isk is pretty pathetic. We spent more than that on our 1st PvP tourny match Saturday.

So everyone wanted to know what I think makes it a challenge for me. I was not in Iceland to be in the NDA discussions, there is no way for me to be brought up to speed as to what I missed. I was never able to present any of the issues I might have felt as important this term 1:1 with the devs.

Some of you might say this is because I think I missed out on a ticket to Iceland. No, I still get one from CCP for Fanfest, so for me this is NOT about a free trip to Iceland. This is about missing out on the one real opportunity the CSM have to REALLY interact with CCP in some manner that might be effective.

I am impressed with the pro Lark alt spamage here in the forum topic. Lark seems to have many faces. Of course a good scammer/pirate would.

I only wish CCP had taken a little more time to realize how big an issue this really was and chosen perma-ban not not a 30 day holiday. This is a serious set back for the credibility of the CSM. I have no idea why the other CSM members remain silent about this incident. I can't imagine how they don't see how their credibility as an organization was horribly damaged by Adam Ridgway's actions.

I have been told that I am able to run for reelection for another term should I choose. I'll have to see if I'm inclined to try and run again. I can see there is enough negativity around this incident that it could complicate any attempt at a reelection.

Before any of the psuedo-larks post some dumb thing about me not be elected this term I'll point out I didn't lose by much last election even though RL kept me from any serious campaigning. And this incident is likely to make a lot of folks that maybe didn't vote realize that maybe they should next time.

The CSM is a very important experiment that CCP has created. I hope they reconsider what message such a light punishment sends to the player base. Right now it appears you can be flown to Iceland, learn all the secrets in queue, abuse that trust and if you are caught it means 30 days of WoW while you sit in the corner with a time out. In the mean time folks that seemed to do much less are tossed out for good. Not sure I understand the calibration of the ban hammer. Maybe that was something that was covered under NDA that I missed...

Issler

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Originally by: RedSplat

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The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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I am impressed with the pro Lark alt spamage here in the forum topic. Lark seems to have many faces. Of course a good scammer/pirate would.

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Originally by: Issler Dainze

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I am impressed with the pro Lark alt spamage here in the forum topic. Lark seems to have many faces. Of course a good scammer/pirate would.

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Originally by: RedSplat

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The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.

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