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James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.09.09 18:06:00 - [31] Clearly a Minmatar Ewar battleship would have a target painting bonus, not an ECM bonus.
foobarx	Posted - 2009.09.09 18:12:00 - [32] Originally by: Robert Caldera Originally by: Adria MalDoran Besides, the Tempest has a role that it performs magnificently; Fleet Operations ! yes, exactly, its role in fleet operations = dead meat Tempests are called first, because they pop quicker than others... Seems kind of silly to primary the BS with the lowest DPS.
fab24 Gallente Order of Anarchy The Laughing Men	Posted - 2009.09.09 18:56:00 - [33] Originally by: Joethelions Hey, JTL here. I'd like to talk to you about removing all Tempests from the game. The tempest is a pretty bad ship, and is in dire need of a replacement. It may even be better if Minmatar just have two battleships, because the tempest is not very good. IMO removing the tempest and replacing it with a new ship, or removing the tier 2 minmatar battleship is the best way to go. Sure, it's a bit messy, but obviously the "Tempest Issue" that has been going on for a while now is really hard to fix and it is sucking up a lot of ingame resources. Lag can be reduced by just removing the Tempest from the database. An idea suggested to me by a corpmate would be to replace it with a Minmatar ECM ship. Minmatar don't really have any ECM ships so a scorpion-like tier 2 battle ship would bring a lot of variety to the Minmatar race when you are choosing your battleship. Current tempest owners will have their ship changed into a Minmascorp i have taken the liberty to name "Flying Dragon Raptor" which is a fierce name for a fierce ship replacing the tempest and this will help balance out the battleship line for minmatar. This way people can be more effective in battle. Here is a proposed ship: "Flying Dragon Raptor" Minmatar Battleship Skill Bonus: 10% Bonus to ECM Target Jammer capacitor use per level 30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level Slot Layout: 6/7/4 Turret Hardpoints: 6 It would be an armor tanked ship I know its only four low slots but you can fit 2 reps if you want so thats enough to outtank most BS. This ship has alot of synergy because of its low ECM cap and no cap using turrets it can active tank like a mother. these are my ideas, hope you like them. need feedback on tempest, constructive criticism accepted ofc. Thx JTL Falcon/scorpion alt that want a new toy and bored to see scorpion navy isn't a ecm boat ? other than that matars are not made for ECM... they are made for...for... nothing, ccp give them some love! Trolling is not permitted on the forum - we encourage threads that discuss issues in a constructive and spirited atmosphere. < lmfao...
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2009.09.09 19:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Joethelions Insanity. I'm not sure if this was posted out of ignorance, or simply an attempt to troll.
Joethelions Caldari Universal Order Utopian Order	Posted - 2009.09.09 20:22:00 - [35] Originally by: James Lyrus Clearly a Minmatar Ewar battleship would have a target painting bonus, not an ECM bonus. target painters are dumb i think best ewar for minmatar to have would be ecm cause they dont have an ecm ship yet so were adding versatility to minmatar
Psiri	Posted - 2009.09.09 22:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Grann Thefauto I approve of this just because you used the most stupid buzzword in the english language: "synergy." I look forward to the implementation of this PVP solution to help monetize and expand my customer focused initiatives. Synergy is far from a buzzword, if anything buzzword is a buzzword, so you could just have left it at that. I honestly can't tell who's trolling and who isn't anymore, either way OP needs his posting certificate revoked.
Liang Nuren The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.09.09 22:48:00 - [37] Originally by: Psiri Synergy is far from a buzzword Yes... it is. It really, really is. Tell the truth: are you a manager at your job, and do you find uses for the word synergy at work? -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Tiffis	Posted - 2009.09.09 22:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Joethelions "Flying Dragon Raptor" Lolz you be trolling.
Manu Hermanus FaDoyToy	Posted - 2009.09.09 22:49:00 - [39] Originally by: Psiri Originally by: Grann Thefauto I approve of this just because you used the most stupid buzzword in the english language: "synergy." I look forward to the implementation of this PVP solution to help monetize and expand my customer focused initiatives. Synergy is far from a buzzword, if anything buzzword is a buzzword, so you could just have left it at that. I honestly can't tell who's trolling and who isn't anymore, either way OP needs his posting certificate revoked. buzzword is a 2.0 (two point oh) buzzword, and an important part of the paradigm shift powered by thinktanks
Echo Gemini Minmatar Love My Darkness	Posted - 2009.09.10 00:03:00 - [40] Hey JTL from there, Just **** off with all your ecm-missile minnie ship that is a 4lows-armor tanking! You are a idiot with an idiotic ideea! ktnksbye, To JTL

Shereza	Posted - 2009.09.10 02:46:00 - [41] Actually, I think I could support an electronic warfare battleship for the Minmatar. EVE has a lot of balancing acts going on in it. Cases in point, Amarr and Gallente ships are primarily gun ships and are the only two races with "drone boats" in their lineups. Caldari and Minmatar ships are also the only ships that boast any serious amount of missile firepower in their T1 lineup while also being the only two races that are often handicapped by split weapon systems. I would not, however, support any Minmatar EW ship getting bonuses to ECM. Webbers and painters are their stock in trade and it's webber and painter bonuses that belong on any EW battleship they get. Perhaps a 15-20% per level range bonus to webbers and a 5-7.5% per level bonus to painter strength. The worst thing that could happen would be that a tempest with an overloaded Tobias' webber drops some poor schlup's speed by 60% at around 52km and then gets primaried when everyone realizes that that person's got an officer webber fit that cost as much as 20 or more tempests. Actually, that doesn't sound that bad, at least not for the people who aren't flying around with that webber... ____________________ Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS	Posted - 2009.09.10 03:13:00 - [42] Originally by: Manu Hermanus Originally by: Psiri Originally by: Grann Thefauto I approve of this just because you used the most stupid buzzword in the english language: "synergy." I look forward to the implementation of this PVP solution to help monetize and expand my customer focused initiatives. Synergy is far from a buzzword, if anything buzzword is a buzzword, so you could just have left it at that. I honestly can't tell who's trolling and who isn't anymore, either way OP needs his posting certificate revoked. buzzword is a 2.0 (two point oh) buzzword, and an important part of the paradigm shift powered by thinktanks I have performed some social bookmarking and i must be honest, i have challanged our comfort zones and feel i have found a critical path to taking the initiative and reaching out for our respective low hanging fruits. if we wanted to take a solution-oriented stance on this we would shift the paradigm away from stale 'in-the-box' dependence on CCP solutions and leverage a moving forward mentality embracing the opportunity of an aggressively pilot based response. strategizing a comprehensive compilation of action items is crucial for a tempest-centric success chain. synergies will me maximized for a user focused solution which, if we adopt self-leadership and stretch our goals, we will find a revolutionary tangent upon which we can re-brand the Tempest, thus enabling us to close the loop. the time frame for this is task oriented so estimations regarding the deliverables of our targeted orientation are yet to be discovered. rest assured this is not a blue sky venture but more of a strategic alliance of key players to smoke test and pass the baton ultimitely allowing for a self developed sweet spot which we will be able to bring to the table. this paradigm shift will decompose our architecture allowing for integration and empowerment of price point high performance content providers be advised we will touch base through this rapid prototyping. my people will talk to your people. /tps reports ---------- Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother*****r
Liang Nuren The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.09.10 03:31:00 - [43] Originally by: HankMurphy I have performed some social bookmarking and i must be honest, i have challanged our comfort zones and feel i have found a critical path to taking the initiative and reaching out for our respective low hanging fruits. if we wanted to take a solution-oriented stance on this we would shift the paradigm away from stale 'in-the-box' dependence on CCP solutions and leverage a moving forward mentality embracing the opportunity of an aggressively pilot based response. strategizing a comprehensive compilation of action items is crucial for a tempest-centric success chain. synergies will me maximized for a user focused solution which, if we adopt self-leadership and stretch our goals, we will find a revolutionary tangent upon which we can re-brand the Tempest, thus enabling us to close the loop. the time frame for this is task oriented so estimations regarding the deliverables of our targeted orientation are yet to be discovered. rest assured this is not a blue sky venture but more of a strategic alliance of key players to smoke test and pass the baton ultimitely allowing for a self developed sweet spot which we will be able to bring to the table. this paradigm shift will decompose our architecture allowing for integration and empowerment of price point high performance content providers be advised we will touch base through this rapid prototyping. my people will talk to your people. /tps reports -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Grann Thefauto Spook Division BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.09.10 05:36:00 - [44] Originally by: HankMurphy a whole lot of awesome /tps reports You sir have just made me want to punch my monitor. Well played, I concede to your web 2.0 market dominance stragetizations.


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