Yeah, we'll make it easier to use. Added to what you're talking about, we're looking at adding bays to the neocom, so if you drag the drone bay to the neocom, you can access it from there when it's available, it's kind of cool. Anyway, on it

For your info, the issue is client side. I have tested the unified inventory on 2 different machines.

on a low end computer (lets say, a laptop that is aprox 3 years old by now) the inventory really lacks performace for viewing large containers, moving a large amount of items, trading items, loading the main inventory screen (I have mentioned this in a previous post and I don't like to post a link since I am lazy)

If you are using a high end computer (lets say, I7 920 bla with a lot of specs), you will noticed that the inventory screen does not lag that much.

If your developers are all running a high end cpu (which I think this is the case), improvements wouldn't really matter much imho since a developer on a high end CPU wouldn't notice a fraction of a millisecond by making changes.

There are some things that apparently constantly refresh / check / whatever the items in the UI making it sluggish as hell. With the previous inventory system this was never the case.

Dear Tippia, I was actually supporting you by pointing out to the op that you and others had highlighted the many flaws with the new inventory system and that he should read up what you and others had said many times before posting.

Read what I posted again, think about what it actually says, then come back and apologise for your shameful display.

Some times you let your forum ego get in the way of your ability to think Tippia.

Sorry for the confusion; yes, there are deployments on 7 June (tomorrow) and then on 19 June. It's Inferno 1.0.9 and then Inferno 1.1. Both deployments will contain fixes to Unified Inventory. Inferno 1.1 primarily contains updated Minmatar ships (continuing the so-called V3 Project).

After 19 June there will further releases, Inferno 1.1.x, as needed and as promised, for Unified Inventory.

It is good hear that there is interest in the V3 project. I'm sorry to say that there are no plans to make a Minmatar DEV blog right now that I know off but that might change now that we are getting closer to delivery.

All sub-capital Minmatar ships excluding Loki.
Also Drake is now a flying potato.

All Minmatar sub-capitals excluding the Tech-3 ships are getting the V3 treatment.

• Battleship
• BattleCuiser
• Cruiser
• Frigate
• Industrial
• Shuttle

Shift click the overview - opens in new window. You have the option to stack or handle new windows and the game will remember this by type (e.g. wreck, cargo container). Also in tree view, if you open them all, you can just rattle Loot All til they're all gone.

CCP Goliath,

Can you guys set the "open" button at the top of the overview to shift-doubleclick as its default action?

At minimum, it would give players a one-click, treeless workaround for opening wrecks in a new window.

That's how they opened before.

YK

Opening orca bays before inferno:

*right click orca > open cargo hold
*right click orca > open ore hold
*right click orca > open corp hangers


Opening orca bays after inferno and fixes so far:

*Hit cargohold button at bottom of screen
*right click orca > shift+click open corporate hangers
*expand tree view > close filters > scroll > shift+click ore hold > collapse tree view
*and now remember to hit shift+click for EVERYTHING else.....
*also remember to manually close windows that you are about to warp away from to avoid getting another cargohold view that you will have to manually close anyways...

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Please return full original functionality... please

Opening orca bays before inferno:

*right click orca > open cargo hold
*right click orca > open ore hold
*right click orca > open corp hangers


Opening orca bays after inferno and fixes so far:

*Hit cargohold button at bottom of screen
*right click orca > shift+click open corporate hangers
*expand tree view > close filters > scroll > shift+click ore hold > collapse tree view
*and now remember to hit shift+click for EVERYTHING else.....
*also remember to manually close windows that you are about to warp away from to avoid getting another cargohold view that you will have to manually close anyways...

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Please return full original functionality... please

Interesting that CCP Goliath refers to this abomination of a UI in terms of being welcoming intuitive and new player friendly, seems they missed the fact that we were all once new players who once upon a time all found the original UI intuitive and user friendly after a few minutes of working out what it actual was and how it worked.

This was part of the new player experience, part of the much publicised EVE vertical learning curve and dare I say it part of what made EVE interesting.

The current mind set of CCP Dev's appears to be one of dumbing down all aspects of EVE to console game levels which if you care to go back through the Forums a lot of us predicted that this type of infection would spread into EVE when DUST was first announced.

Now we have been presented with a UI set up so similar to one of a console game in operation that is would be hard for even Goliath to spin this one as not being so linked and still have any credibility left to him as the similarities have become more noticeable over the past three iterations of EVE and during each small changes have taken place as various aids to integration have been inserted.

CQ and PI to name but two, CQ was a public relations disaster for CCP yet it is still there like a lagg dripping bogey man lurking in the shadows just waiting for SONY to pull the plug on the station environment and force it onto players once again.

One wonders if CCP actually tracked what happened after the recent large update when CQ was reset and had once again to be banished, how many players actually did this ASAP horrified for a moment that this monster had actually got loose permanently, CCP did indeed stand CQ down in the end but only as far as allowing players not to be forced to use it.

Players at the time expressed great concern as to why CCP had actually done this at all and along with the 'Noble Exchange' never really got a full and frank explanation as to the reasoning behind it.

A number of us have politely asked and noticeably not yet received a credible explanation as to why CCP actually introduced this UI at all, most of us that have taken the time to present arguments as to why this UI is an utter failure have also noted that CCP has again become entrenched about it's latest creation and begun yet again a trail of spin as they attempt to defend it.

To close, I would again request that those running CCP step up and explain to the players why they have to suffer this new UI at all, and to Goliath in particular....

Given the option between using the tree structure and the original UI, from what I have read and from what players I spend a lot of time with have said, quite frankly they would go for the old UI without question, warts and all, not going to spend time trying to explain why to you.....it's an EVE thing, something that you aint getting on any level.

Per a dev the patch on the 19th fixes it back to being smoth again. Join us on Sisi and find out over the next couple of days

No thanks, i'd rather quit.

EVE System > Channel MOTD changed to: CCP thinks you like the new UI because of your silence. Tell them" by Maul555.

I'd like to clarify at this point that while I used the term "vocal minority" to describe those extremely opposed to the Unified Inventory, I did not infer that everyone who wasn't posting was in favour of it nor did I claim at any point that silence is approval. I was trying to make the point that the many repeat posters were using the term "everyone" or "almost all" to describe those against the change were using those terms erroneously.

a possible fix to this maybe instead of another rant is what i am going for here . Since CCP is adamant its not going away .

Redo the UI to have a second list on the opposite side of the ui . Here your ship hanger and its drone bays are always visible . in another part of the UI . keeping the corp hangers separate in the other side would reduce the amount confusion and make it easier to use .

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx186/Jecs_Spoon/EVEUI.jpg

This makes things less complicated when using ships with multiple hangers in them . If these are at least visible it would reduce some of the confusion and increase its functionality . Having everything in the one list like it is now is just too slow to be practical as is .

im moving to diablo 3

fk ccp and thier ****** console shiet

7 accounts, anyone want my stuff?

/me craps on ccp

So I guess the big question is CCP still monitoring this thread? CCP could you at least acknowledge you are reading what we are typing here? I know a lot of us are getting frustated (myself included), not knowing WTH is going on.

Hopefully you are still reading, so, here's a weird issue you to look at...

1. I'm at a POS.
2. Open my ships cargo bay, collapsed tree.
3. Shift-double-click on an equipment assembly array opens that inventory in the currently open inventory - Does NOT launch a new window. (actually makes me approach the array)
4. Right click to get menu, hold down shift key, and pick 'access storage' and it actually opens a new window.. ????? Intended functionality, or bug? Me thinks bug...

Other oddity at a POS...

I currently have 3 inventory windows open. 2 are to arrays, each currently in the same tab name. 3rd window is ship's cargo. If I click the inventory icon on the neocom, I get a list of 3 open inventories, but the 2 that are arrays with tabs, the description shown is only the tab. Not really a big issue for me, as I can see the windows opened, just cosmetic.

God how I hate this shift-clickity crap.

EDIT : Docked up stuff

Did the alt-n, alt-c, alt-i stuff to get 3 windows to properly show my ships, my current ship cargo, and my inventory in this station. First off, had play with the tree to get my item list to show up when I did alt-i, as it initially showed my ship cargo for some reason.

undocked leaving all 3 windows active. Re-docked, the window with my item list reverted back to showing my ships cargo, i.e. I had 1 window with ship hangar, and 2 windows now with ships cargo.

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Y'know, if I could just make this mimic the old inventory, I'd be happy and re-sub. Not asking for much, just a few simple things at this point.

- double click launches into a new window, not existing. Hell, make this a switch in your system setup so we can tailor how it works for us. Shift-Dbl-Click or Double-Click to Open Container into New Window.

- right click menu, access storage - launches in a new window and DOESN'T require a SHIFT key to be held down. Again, a simple option in system setup to make it flexible.

- System option to set to have all trees start in collapsed mode.

- System option to put tabs across top of an open inventory for arrays vs. having to expand the tree everytime to navigate tabs.

Again, make it all configurable in the system setup. Simple, easy, and would probably make alot of us happy. I know it would make my day, and have me re-subbing 5 accounts immediately.

Remember this pile of crap shouldn't have been released in the first place in its present form. Its guys like you that tolerate this crap which is why CCP doesn't care to ram sub par crap down our throats. How many fixes does it take??????? At the rate its going we wont have a truly functional UI ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CCP RubberBAND has a most excellent post acknowledging the most pressing issues and how they're going to address them. It's available here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1541165#post1541165

I hope it's turned into a Dev Blog.