The key difference here is if the incursion runners didn't like the feature they don't have to use it. For instance the incursion runners were not happy and as a result decided to do other things in eve. Now with the UI everyone has to deal with it in some frame or fashion and just waiting for our input to be added to salvage this mess is getting annoying. Right click options, double click options. Getting rid of shift clicks, more windows etc. You've read it all.

Your comparison is like comparing apples to ornages.

It is good hear that there is interest in the V3 project. I'm sorry to say that there are no plans to make a Minmatar DEV blog right now that I know off but that might change now that we are getting closer to delivery.

say what? that's a joke about the drake right? ^^

Drake has already been V3ed you jokers

Diffrent devs lol
I think its a shader that will get fixed in the 1.1 release need the rest of the sub-caps to be v-3ed

Looting is STILL broken. Open a container in space, separate window (shift-click since dragging container off UI doesn't work), open another loot jetcan, press Loot ALL, window closes, and any further containers opened only open in main UI window. This broken behavior is still present after your June 7 "we saved up all the goodies and you won't have another for weeks" grand patch.

I will not re-subscribe for ONE MONTH for EACH WEEK that UI is broken.

they know they have reduced functionality drastcily. they just dont seam to care about teh negative impact on people play styles, they just band around design concept as the reason why nothing works properly

If you opened all the containers in separate windows, they should maintain in separate windows. I have just done this so let me know exact steps if it's not working for you. Bug report would be best but here is fine in a pinch.

Bug report/ missing features. 138040
With out a shift click fuction showing in the right click menu shift click fuctionality is not apperant to open wrecks or cargos, there is no way to open wrecks in a secondary window from the overview.
Wrecks are not show ing up in the index any more if they are in range so you have to open then via a right click menu and then open them via the shift click right click menu.
Opening a second wreck using the shift click fuctionality or right click drop down fuctionality closes the prevousely open window which has a wreck in it. It does not open that wreck in the same window as the prevous wreck.

Shift double click works but is not documented well. Every thing put out by the new devblogs is shift single click

No while all the fuctionality on the new Inventory window is shift single click. All like fuctionality is shift double click when useing the overview. There is not a shift double click line in the overview right click menu or a loot all icon in the right click drop down menu so people do not have to move there mouse a million miles while looting.

functionality is not the same with this new ui as with the old.

4 corp hangers at a pos.

old system, right clcik 4 times all 28 hangers in 4 stacked windows. change to corp division 1, click each corp hanger wondow and you can see whats in all 4 hangers corp division 1 with 4 click, rinse repeat with all 4 corp hangers, division after division

new system shift click 28 times. 28 windows, now try to search through 4 corp hanger division 1's... go on, try.
now try division 2, 3 4, 5, 6 and 7...

oh it gets better, warp away( all 28 windows become your cargo window and dont auto close), come back.... do it again and again and again... i bet you jsut give up as its a nightmare

why have you removed right click menus that actually have a function ccp?

Fair enough. My specific troubles are that the corp hangar does not open in a tabbed hangar view exactly like the old one with a single click of a single button. I should not have to spin my chair and hold keys down to get what I had before with a simple single click.

CCP Goliath, you want to make a hundred thousand-- or more-- Eve users happy? Make an option to reverse SHIFT CLICK and CLICK. This *should* get the functionality of the old Inventory back to normal, assuming you get all the presistence problems worked out.

Of course, I think this entire UI nonsense is only to let the soon-to-come masses of Dust bunnies be comfortable with what they already know-- Windows Explorer. Damned be the old users of Eve.

You can say whatever you want. Nothing changes the fact that it's harder now. It's more clicks now. It's not intuitive. For God's sake it even requires keyboard input now to do things that before were a single left click of the mouse. If I only open one inventory window a day I could live with that. Multiply it a thousand fold and bask in the glow of the worst UI in the universe.

I might be reading this wrong, but I don't see why you aren't using the tree view for this - it gives you the same functionality as before, but in one window (or 4 if you prefer one for each hangar) and you just 1 click to each division.

You can say whatever you want. Nothing changes the fact that it's harder now. It's more clicks now. It's not intuitive. For God's sake it even requires keyboard input now to do things that before were a single left click of the mouse. If I only open one inventory window a day I could live with that. Multiply it a thousand fold and bask in the glow of the worst UI in the universe.

you wnat me to pick 4 corp hangers out of 10 and find 28 divisions of the 70 using a list. are you smoking crack?. go try it and come back to me.

Down with one window. Im looking in containers, not browsing my hard drive. Theres a difference in immersion, visability and efficiency. And the new system is not an improvement to any of those.

I will only be satisfied if the game realises that;

Cargo Holds
Drone Bays
Corp Hanger Arrays
Fuel Bays
Station Containers
Cans in Space
Wrecks

...etc, are all different things (and not one unified file structure), and remembers where i set the previous contents window of any of those particular items.

For example, i buy a new ship and get into it, double click, opens cargo hold in the same location as where i set my last ships cargo hold window, as in, cargo hold window locations are persistent and stack with other cargo holds.
I open a wreck in space, it opens where i opened my last wreck, NOT OVER MY CARGO HOLD (unless the user stacks it with their cargo hold of course), then i can easy drag what i want from one to the other with the minimum number of mouse clicks possible.

The same as above applies to all other container types listed above and any others i may have left out. This way we are free to REDUCE mouse clicks and INCREASE visibility over what we are trying to accomplish with our assets.

If i want my drone windows AND cargo holds to open in the same location, then i can simple join the two stacks together.
Having EVE actually recognise where i put my last cargo hold and open a new ships cargo hold in that location would actually be an IMPROVEMENT over how it used to be.

The ONLY time i want to navigate using 1 window is when i open the navigation pane(in the ass) and manually navigate around. Though i dont see that happening alot if you can just please drop this nonsense and for once give us what we want without making thousands of players quit.

I hope this is clear. You are heading in the wrong direction with this.

My biggest gripe remaining is the window hijacking behavior of the new UI. This has also been my biggest gripe since the beginning. The only reason a window should ever change views, is if I open the tree and make it change inside that window. Trying to open anything else, with any method, for any reason, should open a new window by default. Bringing back open with double click should fix this, and fix Looting which has become fubard. My multiple open windows is my work on my desk. Your UI constantly tries to shove my work off of my desk. STOP IT!


Aside from that I want my right click menus back. do these and I will shut up and be happy.

PS: oh yeah, and neocom buttons, and close "gone" containers instead of reverting to cargo hold view...