Will this ever be rectified?

what are you talking about? I'm pretty sure they are, perspective is just hard to gain in a game like this...

So where exactly does a Hulk go when you scoop it to the maintenance bay of an Orca - hmmmm?

what are you talking about? I'm pretty sure they are, perspective is just hard to gain in a game like this...

So where exactly does a Hulk go when you scoop it to the maintenance bay of an Orca - hmmmm?

You can fit 3,900m3 worth of cargo into a container only 3,000m3 large and you want to talk about ship proportions?

So where exactly does a Hulk go when you scoop it to the maintenance bay of an Orca - hmmmm?

New Eden's cargo handlers union is adept at shoving large grocery orders into tiny refrigerators.

You can fit 3,900m3 worth of cargo into a container only 3,000m3 large and you want to talk about ship proportions?

So where exactly does a Hulk go when you scoop it to the maintenance bay of an Orca - hmmmm?

Well, most cargo containers in Eve are a lot bigger on inside as opposed to their outer dimensions. It's probably in the lore somewhere having things bigger on the inside.

machariel is 1,936 m long axis Thanatos 2,276 m long axis Raven 806m long axis.

park a mach along a thanatos the carrier just a hair longer to the size is right park a raven next to a mach the raven is less then half the size of the mach so size in game is right.

Read the stats of the before post something like this know your facts.

For me its just general ship design (art direction) that is wrong.

Ships where the basic hull is not symmetrical = Ugly to humans
Ships with weird thruster placements = Mechanically incorrect, ugly
Ship skins with too many windows = Scale problem as previously mentioned
Ship spot lights = Constantly beam with inconsistent directions

Most of the unfortunates are legacy designs from 2003. Funny how designs after launch tend to follow the rules better. So yeah, would be nice to have the old hulls updated, the MOA (an extraordinarily ugly ship) should be first in line.

For me its just general ship design (art direction) that is wrong.


Ships where the basic hull is not symmetrical = Ugly to humans

Ships with weird thruster placements = Mechanically incorrect, ugly

Ship skins with too many windows = Scale problem as previously mentioned

Ship spot lights = Constantly beam with inconsistent directions


Most of the unfortunates are legacy designs from 2003. Funny how designs after launch tend to follow the rules better. So yeah, would be nice to have the old hulls updated, the MOA (an extraordinarily ugly ship) should be first in line.

Obviously not not calling out every ship on bad thruster placements, just a few that i can think of would spin in circles if eve had real physics. The frig hull type of stilleto would spin in circles.

Ships where the basic hull is not symmetrical = Ugly to humans

Start with the stations first. Try and calculate how big Jita 4-4 needs to be

Will this ever be rectified?

machariel is 1,936 m long axis Thanatos 2,276 m long axis Raven 806m long axis.

park a mach along a thanatos the carrier just a hair longer to the size is right park a raven next to a mach the raven is less then half the size of the mach so size in game is right.

Read the stats of the before post something like this know your facts.

The Machariel is the longest bs in the game but its also the fasted bs in game why is that i dont know ask the angel cartel that built it but from what i have read in game Angel ships are built useing joven plains the angels found in old jove systems they now hold. but that what the back story to the angels said.

what are you talking about? I'm pretty sure they are, perspective is just hard to gain in a game like this...

One thing that particularly bugs me is that sometimes you get small ships with tons of windows giving an impression of large size, then you get large ships with fewer windows but they're bigger, making the ship look relatively smaller.

But then again, using windows to indicate scale is itself a bit of a fail (see virtually all the space stations).

Actually, ships would have to be symmetrical in some respects in space.
You would have to take centers of mass and engine placement or strength into account.
You can estimate the latter. if appearances aren't deceiving (low thrust - low glow, high thrust - high glow, etc).

It's perfectly plausible that you could have an asymmetric - structurally speaking - ship in space... and you seem to be alluding to this, Nat. But, in my opinion, many of the ships in Eve go beyond this to the point of making you wonder if there's any way they could ever buzz about as they do, being as unbalanced as they are.

I agree, the mach is a great example of this. Enormous ship physically, but the fastest most agile bs.

The Machariel is the longest bs in the game but its also the fasted bs in game why is that i dont know ask the angel cartel that built it but from what i have read in game Angel ships are built useing joven plains the angels found in old jove systems they now hold. but that what the back story to the angels said.

Yea....so tell me why the Providence is covered on top by thick ass armor but has zero underneath.
The design engineer should be shot.

Yea....so tell me why the Providence is covered on top by thick ass armor but has zero underneath.
The design engineer should be shot.

Those design patterns indicate two-dimensional thinking.

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Anyway, what bothers me the most is the proportions of the turret size to the ship and the wacky turret placement.
It looks like the design of the ship is done before you'd even know its stats and exact turret amount, with margins for navy and T2 versions.

Moa is still ugly though... wonder why it looks like a chicken with a briefcase.

Because the Caldari are very business-minded, so it'd just be silly if the chicken didn't have a briefcase.

Transparent aluminium armor.

Because the Caldari are very business-minded, so it'd just be silly if the chicken didn't have a briefcase.