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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.09.17 22:09:00 -
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This practically defines "exploit." But in EVE that means its cool.
The rules here are arbitrary and capricious - deal with it.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Gaius Weyland
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Tank your hauler?
This
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.17 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Because the people with hacked accounts aren't waiting long enough for a GM's attention, right?
There is no number small enough to describe how little I care about how long the ******s that visit dodgy websites and download keyloggers have to wait to get their accounts back.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.17 23:51:00 -
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PDUs and MSEs are your friend.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.18 01:30:00 -
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The idiots are only going to get smart bombs turned into single target weapons like Titan DD's, which is fine by me.
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Darwin's Market
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Posted - 2009.09.18 01:36:00 -
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Tanking doesn't work because they also work in teams using multiple battleships, this is going to get worse when Goons start doing it in large numbers.
You cannot catch anyone using the insta undock warp contrary to the suicide bomber's alt here saying otherwise and trying to shift discussion. No one remains at the first safespot lol.
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Noa Fuyu
Amarr Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.18 01:52:00 -
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I think they need help text of the undock button;
'By clicking undock you consent to the possibility of player vs player and accept the consequences that come from it.' -------------------------- I would throw a hundred ships into the void just to see you crushed. |

Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.18 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 18/09/2009 01:53:20
Originally by: Noa Fuyu I think they need help text of the undock button;
'By clicking undock you consent to the possibility of player vs player and accept the consequences that come from it.'
They've added a warning when someone in system has a criminal flag towards you, or if a war target is in local when you attempt to undock on Sisi.
Edit: no i am not kidding. I'll try screenie it with some alt of mine. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.09.18 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Edited by: Blane Xero on 18/09/2009 02:18:08 Edited by: Blane Xero on 18/09/2009 02:17:34 Edited by: Blane Xero on 18/09/2009 01:53:20
Originally by: Noa Fuyu I think they need help text of the undock button;
'By clicking undock you consent to the possibility of player vs player and accept the consequences that come from it.'
They've added a warning when someone in system has a criminal flag towards you, or if a war target is in local when you attempt to undock on Sisi.
Edit: no i am not kidding. I'll try screenie it with some alt of mine.
Hmm that link didn't quite work out. Reuploading.
For some reason I have the sudden urge to strangle a puppy.
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Noa Fuyu
Amarr Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.18 02:35:00 -
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ty for pic.
And yeah.... thats just... wow.. why would they do that?
I wonder if the devs have forgotten EVE is meant to be a cruel environment. Stop the pussification please. -------------------------- I would throw a hundred ships into the void just to see you crushed. |

Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.18 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Noa Fuyu ty for pic.
And yeah.... thats just... wow.. why would they do that?
I wonder if the devs have forgotten EVE is meant to be a cruel environment. Stop the pussification please.
Now i don't want to sound like a hater, but Eve stopped being cruel, harsh uncaring bastard universe when it got a PEGI 12/Teen rating. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Noa Fuyu
Amarr Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.18 02:43:00 -
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Yeah I know, never will understand why they went with that rating. whats wrong with 15? 17? 18? lol. I mean its not gonna stop 12yros playin if they really want heh. -------------------------- I would throw a hundred ships into the void just to see you crushed. |

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.18 02:56:00 -
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The only rating that actually keeps kids out is the M one, but that rating horrifies people so badly most stores won't carry such games, at least for now. I expect some kind of gamer civil war to happen in the next 5-10 years where adults simply refuse to tolerate children in their games any longer, and either claim certain games as their own and force children out out of them, or migrate to games with M ratings. The latter is more likely.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Space Bar South The Compass
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Posted - 2009.09.18 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula The only rating that actually keeps kids out is the M one, but that rating horrifies people so badly most stores won't carry such games, at least for now. I expect some kind of gamer civil war to happen in the next 5-10 years where adults simply refuse to tolerate children in their games any longer, and either claim certain games as their own and force children out out of them, or migrate to games with M ratings. The latter is more likely.
The only ESRB rating which keeps kids out is "AO". The thing about the M rating is that many stores voluntarily refuse to sell the game to minors. However, I believe that there is no law in the US that demands this.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.18 06:18:00 -
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All the M and above ratings do is make the parents who buy the games for their children decide they'd rather not have their little Johhny playing a game with a bunch of grown men. Teen ratings don't have quite the same fear factor to the parent mind.
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Celeritas 5k
Caldari Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.09.18 06:18:00 -
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Wait a sec... Why would a pirate bother with a low-sp alt if you can do it with a -10 sec status? Usually the low-sp character is the one you keep highsec capable, not the other way around... - Always be Happy, Never be satisfied. |

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council
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Posted - 2009.09.18 06:52:00 -
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Does anyone else notice the huge amount of irony between the OP's name and what he's whining about? Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Does anyone else notice the huge amount of irony between the OP's name and what he's whining about?
Hmmm... a successful troll methinks? And now I need to take a 5 minute nap before I have the energy to post again. |

Miraqu
Caldari Marquie-X Corp Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Does anyone else notice the huge amount of irony between the OP's name and what he's whining about?
Hmmm... a successful troll methinks?
Successful troll is quite possible. Otherwise a moron who hauls expensive stuff in a cheap untanked T1-Hauler.
OP: Pls post your setup/KM so that we can make further fun of you.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Malcanis Because the people with hacked accounts aren't waiting long enough for a GM's attention, right?
There is no number small enough to describe how little I care about how long the ******s that visit dodgy websites and download keyloggers have to wait to get their accounts back.
That's a coincidence, because it describes my level of care about people who whine about losing a ship in a PvP game.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.09.18 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Dalton
Originally by: Robert Caldera noob alts?? Its that easy to skill one?
Wow, thanks, I will try it out next days...
With the double SP gain at the start, if you optimised it right, you could be in a smartbombing Tier 1 Battleship in well under a month.
Before this you used to be able to get a smart bombing geddon able to destroy a transport ship in under 3 weeks. If the characters are recycled it's a ticket to banning.
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Junko Togawa
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:17:00 -
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Mmm, a fine old whine you've brought up from the basement. So refreshing in the face of the common ones we see hereabouts these days. 
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:23:00 -
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1. I'm pretty sure op said he was one of the regular suicide gankers yet half the post are telling him to tank his hauler better.
2. That screen shot.... Is that only when you have aggression or are sleeping off concordoken?
3. Always feels wrong that players with -10 can fly past concord no problems. ------------------------------
Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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Tiel Enim
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:35:00 -
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If your -10 you shouldnt be able to even enter high sec space. Also, insta warps? Nothing should be able to insta warp, thats just ******ed.
I know most of you idiots dont understand the concept of "fair play" etc, thats what we get from the 12+ rating i guess, but this griefing in high-sec is more than just plain stupid. Its also unfair. There should be concequences to your actions, just like in the grown up real life world you little piwat ****s havent experienced yet.
Oh, and tank your ****ing haulers.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tiel Enim If your -10 you shouldnt be able to even enter high sec space.
Why?
Quote: Also, insta warps? Nothing should be able to insta warp, thats just ******ed.
Why?
Quote: I know most of you idiots dont understand the concept of "fair play" etc, thats what we get from the 12+ rating i guess, but this griefing in high-sec is more than just plain stupid.
Makes no sense. "Fair play" goes further and further out the window the farther you get from 12+-rated games. Are you suggesting that the game should be rated for an older age-group? Also, what griefing?
Quote: Its also unfair.
How so, and so what?
Quote: There should be concequences to your actions
There are. However, other players often choose to mitigate them on the pirates' behalf. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Adacia Calla I don't even fly haulers and this setup would work pretty damn good:
There's a reason why someone who has never flown a particular ship should never, ever, post a fit for said ship.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente Imperial Syndicate Forces The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 18/09/2009 13:48:26
Originally by: Tiel Enim If your -10 you shouldnt be able to even enter high sec space.
Why?
Because it would be funny to hear them moan. Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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Primnproper
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Posted - 2009.09.18 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tiel Enim If your -10 you shouldnt be able to even enter high sec space. Also, insta warps? Nothing should be able to insta warp, thats just ******ed.
I know most of you idiots dont understand the concept of "fair play" etc, thats what we get from the 12+ rating i guess, but this griefing in high-sec is more than just plain stupid. Its also unfair. There should be concequences to your actions, just like in the grown up real life world you little piwat ****s havent experienced yet.
Oh, and tank your ****ing haulers.
You really don't know anything about eve do you,
1) -10s should be able to and can enter high sec, they just get attacked by the faction navies (unless there in pod)
2) Insta undocks are a vital mechanic used across the entire universe to allow people to get out of stations being camped in by their enemies, be they -10 pirates or goody goody mission runners.
3) Eve is entirely fair, we all work by the same rules and have to use our wits and our abilities to make the most of what we've got. Its may not be nice but it is fair. (and by the way I'm not some little 12 year old and neither of most of the pirates)
Also eve is advertised as and intended to be a game that includes this sort of stuff, don't be suprised that it does, many of us play eve because of this.
4) Consquences, such as ships being blown up by concord etc exist, but clever players can get round them.
It would be very easy to add more consequences though by griefing the griefers, keep haulers arround the gates where this happens and scoop the cans dropped b4 the pirates do. (or just shoot the cans) This would greatly increase the losses they took. ...
Originally by: Graveyard Tan I call bull**** and troll. If you are deaf, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tiel Enim If your -10 you shouldnt be able to even enter high sec space. Also, insta warps? Nothing should be able to insta warp, thats just ******ed.
I know most of you idiots dont understand the concept of "fair play" etc, thats what we get from the 12+ rating i guess, but this griefing in high-sec is more than just plain stupid. Its also unfair. There should be concequences to your actions, just like in the grown up real life world you little piwat ****s havent experienced yet.
Oh, and tank your ****ing haulers.
yet another who wants to nerf my hauler from insta warping after undocking in order to make gankers less of a threat to my hauler...
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Captain HappyChap
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Posted - 2009.09.18 15:37:00 -
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No Risk? Err surely the risk is whether or not the person had anything of any value in their cargo hold or you're going to be losing 60m for nothing?
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