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The Riddik	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:33:00 - [1] every sept the forum fills with whines, moans, and flames as a new crop of players try to make this game into their carebear vision. add in the dominion changes and the cresendo is nigh unbearable. therefore, i would like those that feel that the evil devs are perseciting them that there are carbear wow space games out there now, and in beta, so please, leave and go be part of the herd again so , in short, dont like eve? gtfo
Another Liberthas Caldari Ha'Menudim	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:38:00 - [2] Originally by: The Riddik gtfo
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:39:00 - [3] And the spam. Lovely, lovely Spam. Question - What makes you better than the rest to the point where your spam is more legitimate than theirs? Inquiring minds would like to know. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Coch Draig Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:49:00 - [4] Shuffling through some recent posts its not just the carebears complaining about this that or the other. And imo i dont blame the carebears moaning this time around. Its not the carebear vision rid**** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. GFTO? when im ready i will do it then but not yet.
Ecky X	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Coch Draig ...when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? Maybe CCP is trying to give us a hint.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Coch Draig Shuffling through some recent posts its not just the carebears complaining about this that or the other. And imo i dont blame the carebears moaning this time around. Its not the carebear vision rid**** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. GFTO? when im ready i will do it then but not yet. wormholes, rig changes, T3, faction ships...
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:58:00 - [7] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Coch Draig Shuffling through some recent posts its not just the carebears complaining about this that or the other. And imo i dont blame the carebears moaning this time around. Its not the carebear vision rid**** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. GFTO? when im ready i will do it then but not yet. wormholes, rig changes, T3, faction ships... Wormholes -> not for carebaers but more for small pvp corps and bored 0.0 corps/alliances Rig Changes -> everyone ? T3 -> see Wormholes
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.09.21 18:59:00 - [8] Edited by: Tippia on 21/09/2009 19:00:49 Originally by: Coch Draig Its not the carebear vision rid** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? The last patch that did anything for them was Apocrypha 1.5, and before that Apocrypha. Dominion will cater to them through space cultivation. So you were saying…? Originally by:** Julian Lynq Wormholes -> not for carebaers but more for small pvp corps and bored 0.0 corps/alliances Rig Changes -> everyone ? T3 -> see Wormholes Wormholes and T3 are for industrialists, not carebears, which is what he was asking for. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Julian Lynq Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Coch Draig Shuffling through some recent posts its not just the carebears complaining about this that or the other. And imo i dont blame the carebears moaning this time around. Its not the carebear vision rid** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. GFTO? when im ready i will do it then but not yet. wormholes, rig changes, T3, faction ships... Wormholes -> not for carebaers but more for small pvp corps and bored 0.0 corps/alliances Rig Changes -> everyone ? T3 -> see Wormholes Why oh Why cant people realise that Changes do not have to be mutually exclusive to one type of Player. Wormholes threw ALOT of new industry possibilities at Carebears, T3 is part of this. The rig changes ALSO did this, and made fitting them to smaller ships cheaper for carebears/industrialists. Why oh Why can't you see that a Change for one is a Change for all. Salvaging was the same when it came out at first... _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by:** CCP Fallout :facepalm:
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Julian Lynq Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Coch Draig Shuffling through some recent posts its not just the carebears complaining about this that or the other. And imo i dont blame the carebears moaning this time around. Its not the carebear vision rid**** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. GFTO? when im ready i will do it then but not yet. wormholes, rig changes, T3, faction ships... Wormholes -> not for carebaers but more for small pvp corps and bored 0.0 corps/alliances Rig Changes -> everyone ? T3 -> see Wormholes I see you failed to grasp the profits that are to be made from these things as an industralist.
Coch Draig Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:04:00 - [11] Originally by: baltec1 wormholes, rig changes, T3, faction ships... Originally by: Julian Lynq Wormholes -> not for carebaers but more for small pvp corps and bored 0.0 corps/alliances Rig Changes -> everyone ? T3 -> see Wormholes
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:05:00 - [12] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Julian Lynq Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Coch Draig Shuffling through some recent posts its not just the carebears complaining about this that or the other. And imo i dont blame the carebears moaning this time around. Its not the carebear vision rid**** its the fact that the game is again evolving and doesnt include the carebear mission runners or industrialists again, when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. GFTO? when im ready i will do it then but not yet. wormholes, rig changes, T3, faction ships... Wormholes -> not for carebaers but more for small pvp corps and bored 0.0 corps/alliances Rig Changes -> everyone ? T3 -> see Wormholes I see you failed to grasp the profits that are to be made from these things as an industralist. Not as a carebaer industrialist. It¦s great for industrialist alt¦s from all the pvp/0.0 people.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Julian Lynq Not as a carebaer industrialist. No such thing. Industrialists are forcibly PvPers. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:07:00 - [14] my favorite whine is the one from the ebil piwate l337 PeeVeePee'rs about their gone ability to spam the bejesus out of the scanner. My personal whine is that I don't have 1.21 Giggawatts to fuel my Flux Capacitor so that I can post on the forum WTS Nuke building services to Libyan terrorists WTB lightning strike schedules for clock towers ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Julian Lynq Not as a carebaer industrialist. It¦s great for industrialist alt¦s from all the pvp/0.0 people. Its not CCP's falt your lazy and/or a coward
Coch Draig Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:12:00 - [16] OH NOES! i am an internet coward!
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:13:00 - [17] I didn¦t say that. The Question was if the last expansion were for carebears and the answer is "No". Because apparantly pvp/0.0 corp/ally people are not carebaers and the expansion were for their alts.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Julian Lynq I didn¦t say that. The Question was if the last expansion were for carebears and the answer is "No". Ok…? So what counts as "for carebears" if new missions, new stuff to build, new ships to nuke rats in, new ships to transport stuff in, new stuff to research and (if you're brave enough) new places to do it all in, largely unmolested by ze nasti piewats doesn't cut it? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Julian Lynq I didn¦t say that. The Question was if the last expansion were for carebears and the answer is "No". Okà? So what counts as "for carebears" if new missions, new stuff to build, new ships to nuke rats in, new ships to transport stuff in, new stuff to research and (if you're brave enough) new places to do it all in, largely unmolested by ze nasti piewats doesn't cut it? Hi Tippia, I am not engading into a discussion with you (or your alts). Have given up on that. Too much effort for too less reward. My reply was geared towards the topic as such and not a certain character posting within it, even if it may have seemed so from the quotation. I think I figured that i don¦t need to forum pvp because after all I am a carebear and we don¦t do the PVP thing.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:34:00 - [20] Originally by: Julian Lynq I am not engading into a discussion with you (or your alts). Have given up on that. Too much effort for too less reward. What alts? I take it, then, that you don't have an answer other than "right, forgot about those carebear-specific additions", but that you can't stand admitting that you were 100% wrong. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Another Liberthas Caldari Ha'Menudim	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:37:00 - [21] Confirming I am a Tippia alt, and Julian Lynq sucks.
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:38:00 - [22] Take it for whatever you want. You do it anyways.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:39:00 - [23] How dare someone compare me to an Achura! _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Julian Lynq Take it for whatever you want. You do it anyways. Well you are comming across as a terrible industrialist at the moment.
Mikayla Grey Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Coch Draig when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? you weigh these things up the pvprs and null sec dwellers get it best. All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Coch Draig Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Julian Lynq I am not engading into a discussion with you (or your alts). Have given up on that. Too much effort for too less reward. What alts? I take it, then, that you don't have an answer other than "right, forgot about those carebear-specific additions", but that you can't stand admitting that you were 100% wrong. Not 100% wrong, wrong maybe in some areas but the point of this thread was about carebears spewing the forums with tears, but the pvprs are just as bad even with all their spandago stuff over recent times. I suppose this thread could go on all night with neither side of the argument coming to a close... so for that reason... im out gives a dragons den nod. Originally by: Zymurgist Locked. Petitions are the only way to deal with this issue there is nothing the forums can help you with. Please stop opening multiple threads. Zymurgist
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:43:00 - [27] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Julian Lynq Take it for whatever you want. You do it anyways. Well you are comming across as a terrible industrialist at the moment. I'd wager its a troll, since these are some of the worst Stickmen arguments i've heard since i started reading these forums. I mean, claiming everyone who have a similar point of view on a particular topic are all alts is so PassT _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Tippia Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:43:00 - [28] Edited by: Tippia on 21/09/2009 19:44:45 Originally by: Julian Lynq Take it for whatever you want. You do it anyways. Well, I can't do much else can I? You offer no explanation for how new missions isn't for carebears. Neither do you offer an explanation for how new NPCs to blow up isn't for carebears. Nor the new stuff for manufacturers (carebears or not) to build. Nor the new materials to gather. Nor the new plexing mechanics (and content). Nor the new toys that make all of the above much easier. Nor the upcoming changes that gives you new bling. etc. etc. etc. The last expansion, and the one before that, and the one that's coming contain all of this, and yet you say "The Question was if the last expansion were for carebears and the answer is "No"." What on earth brings you to that conclusion given what has actually been, and will be, brought into the game? Originally by: Blane Xero How dare someone compare me to an Achura! Confirming that I'm a Blane Xero alt. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Coch Draig when was the last time the way ships were manufactured or a new thing arrived for miners except for the orca? Um, the most recent expansion?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.09.21 19:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Coch Draig Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Julian Lynq I am not engading into a discussion with you (or your alts). Have given up on that. Too much effort for too less reward. What alts? I take it, then, that you don't have an answer other than "right, forgot about those carebear-specific additions", but that you can't stand admitting that you were 100% wrong. Not 100% wrong, wrong maybe in some areas but the point of this thread was about carebears spewing the forums with tears, but the pvprs are just as bad even with all their spandago stuff over recent times. I suppose this thread could go on all night with neither side of the argument coming to a close... so for that reason... im out gives a dragons den nod. I find the tears on both sides to taste just as sweet

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