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Schwarz Schutzstaffel
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:22:00 -
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Simple question, but the line must appear somewhere right?
say if someone has been on your case for 6 months, and everytime you join a corp, they bribe or threaten your CEO, so they kick you.... on two characters that are not on same account...
Harrassment?
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:25:00 -
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Pretty much sounds like it. Essentially harassment is defined as doing something to another player on a repeated basis, whereas a simple one off attack doesn't count. I would say you have grounds for petition but you will need to provide some sort of proof that this has been occurring, so have that ready if you can. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:27:00 -
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Just to nitpick: harassment is griefing by default. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Captian Conrad
Minmatar Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:29:00 -
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Wow...talk about harrassment, hope it gets sorted , Chatlogs and screenshots to the ready :)
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Lady Amira
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:30:00 -
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Alternatively why not join a corp where they have a bit stronger CEO who can't be bribed or threatened?
Dont get me wrong that person is out of order and should be petitioned if what you say is correct but also perhaps join a PvP corp who will stand up to them.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente The Rise of The Dragon Knights Void Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:31:00 -
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I'm curious what you did to **** that chap off so much. Perhaps you deserve a year's worth of persecution, who can say ? --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:31:00 -
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So how did you get this guy on your back? Did you steal his Charon ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
Juwi Kotch
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:32:00 -
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It does not matter what you or other players classify as harrassment, only CCP's official opinion matters. That said, the way to find out what CCP's idea of harrassment is: Petition the situation. Most likely you will get a canned response from a GM. Then escalate this to a senior GM. What he/she will say is what you will have to live with.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:32:00 -
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If he got a reason to go after you and can shot evidence to a GM it might backfire. Abusal of the petition system is a banable offence.
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Sani Oska
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:34:00 -
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If they have legitimate reason to be getting back at you in this manner that's simply payback. For example, CEOs of corporations that have been robbed by corp thieves would send emails to whatever corp the thief joins afterward to warn them about this player. Is this harassment? I think not.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 23/09/2009 09:36:29 What exactly did you do to him and why does he know the characters, if they aren't even on the same account? If this is somehow RL related petition for harasment.
If it all stays within the normal gameplay, I wouldn't call it harasment in the bannable sense. He just hates your guts and is willing to use the means in his disposal to put pain on you. Something like this might happen to a corp thief for example. If he send threatening eve mails and keeps threatening you in local you might have a case for a harasment petition regardles.
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Juwi Kotch It does not matter what you or other players classify as harrassment, only CCP's official opinion matters. That said, the way to find out what CCP's idea of harrassment is: Petition the situation. Most likely you will get a canned response from a GM. Then escalate this to a senior GM. What he/she will say is what you will have to live with.
I was going by what I've read of their definition, that was their definition paraphrased, and I've known other people petition against such harassment when it was persistent. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel Simple question, but the line must appear somewhere right?
say if someone has been on your case for 6 months, and everytime you join a corp, they bribe or threaten your CEO, so they kick you.... on two characters that are not on same account...
Harrassment?
Are you a corp thief? Did you scam someone? I doubt that this guy is randomly pursuing you like this for no reason.
Tell the rest of the story.
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Doddy
The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:42:00 -
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Yeah, its not harassment if its revenge for you doing something like corp theft tbh, then its just consequences. If they are just doing it cos they think its funny or cos they don't like u then its harassment.
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Captian Conrad
Minmatar Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Doddy Yeah, its not harassment if its revenge for you doing something like corp theft tbh, then its just consequences. If they are just doing it cos they think its funny or cos they don't like u then its harassment.
So if some1 steals from your corp, you must show professionalism in your revenge, no mercy, no emotion
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:54:00 -
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If it's retaliation then, yeah, different story, if it's unprovoked, petition it.
So, you need to decide which it is. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
Ethidium Bromide
Amarr ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:07:00 -
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all within the rules of eve as long as the CEOs are not threatened with out of game actions.
on the other hand with a character name like yours you should not in the least complain about harrassment!
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Some Advisor on 23/09/2009 10:13:12 i kinda get harrased by your name. since iam german, and that reminds me of the game wolfenstein, and the whole "schwarz schutzstaffel" sounds bah
anyway. what they tell the ceo anyway, what did you do. i dont care what others say regarding my members of my corp, if i like someone and carefully pick him, he gets a chance (reading further in the thread, so far i didnt had the "corpthief issue"). So far iam quite happy with my ppl i got (german, croatians, english ppl and i had a russian guy, too)
Originally by: Sani Oska For example, CEOs of corporations that have been robbed by corp thieves would send emails to whatever corp the thief joins afterward to warn them about this player. Is this harassment? I think not.
for the corpthief it is ;)
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Schwarz Schutzstaffel
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel on 23/09/2009 10:10:36 All I did was disagree with a fitting he recommended to a new player, in a channel thats there to help new players...
I have tried petition but apparently as he is only using perfectly legal ingame mechanics, it does not warrent any action...
But surely harrasment can be done within the game mechanics?
Edit: this character is not the one recieving the harrasment / griefing... just a throw away alt to protect my Identity, and the name is in no way meant to be offensive, the name is a pure translation of Black Protective Squad, no relation to anything else
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:13:00 -
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Harassment is specifically defined as being harassment for no other purpose than to harass. If you flipped his can or popped his ship EVER and that is his reason for messing with, then you brought it on yourself and it is not harassment.
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Captian Conrad
Minmatar Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel Edited by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel on 23/09/2009 10:10:36 All I did was disagree with a fitting he recommended to a new player, in a channel thats there to help new players... I have tried petition but apparently as he is only using perfectly legal ingame mechanics, it does not warrent any action...
But surely harrasment can be done within the game mechanics?
The rookie channel, i dont know about ur name (CCP would of had words if was too bad) and sounds like quite some *Profanity here* that its "game mechanics", clearly harrisment
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Ethidium Bromide
Amarr ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel ....the name is in no way meant to be offensive, the name is a pure translation of Black Protective Squad, no relation to anything else
schutzstaffel
you have been petitioned, either for poor translation skills, extremely poor knowledge about 20th century history or plain stupidity!
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Schwarz Schutzstaffel
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:17:00 -
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was not the rookie channel, but eve university's public channel....
The point I hate of it all, is the fact that it has spread across two characters, hell I even sold the first character to try and lose some heat, but did not work...
I understand about finding a CEO with some more balls, but seeing as all I have is my miner alt, my main aim is a industrial corp, and we all know how they feel about possible mercs being hired and threats etc
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:20:00 -
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i see. Odd Translation.
Now i suddenly have to think of Perry Rhodan with "schwarzschield reaktor" no clue why O_o
...just because of a fitting suggestion? sounds kinda harsh. What did you suggest? the most expensive xlarge something to gang away? ;)
happen to have the chatlogs? (i have chatlogging enabled and use EVELogConcatenator that someone had coded a quite while ago to merge all the thousands of logs by a daily based log, gets the logcount quite down a lot. Requires some .net 2 or so) maybe that will help, but i doubt it will contain lots of offensive/odd things?
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Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Floydd Heywood on 23/09/2009 10:25:53
Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel Simple question, but the line must appear somewhere right?
say if someone has been on your case for 6 months, and everytime you join a corp, they bribe or threaten your CEO, so they kick you.... on two characters that are not on same account...
Harrassment?
Maybe he doesn't like your fascist name?
edit: Oh well, typed this but had to wait, then went to lunch...
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Schwarz Schutzstaffel
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ethidium Bromide
Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel ....the name is in no way meant to be offensive, the name is a pure translation of Black Protective Squad, no relation to anything else
schutzstaffel
you have been petitioned, either for poor translation skills, extremely poor knowledge about 20th century history or plain stupidity!
Quote from you very link .... Schutzstaffel (German for "Protective Echelon"),
Protective as it protects the Identity of my main
I have sent GM logs and even info regarding an evemail where he specificlly says he will grief me until I quit the game
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:24:00 -
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You mentioned that it was in an Eve University channel, were you a member of EU when this happened? ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
Schwarz Schutzstaffel
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:28:00 -
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No I was not a member at the time, I was simply hanging out in the channel to help other players thats the real sad part if I hadnt of done that I would never have met the guy..
I believe the fitting was to do with a caracal he said to use heavy launchers I said assault launchers as new player just wanted to run level 2 missions, and would not be able to fit many heavy launchers with his skill set..
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel Quote from you very link .... Schutzstaffel (German for "Protective Echelon"),
Yes… you didn't happen to read the rest of the link, did you? There's a difference between what something translates into and what it means… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Foodpimp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ethidium Bromide
Originally by: Schwarz Schutzstaffel ....the name is in no way meant to be offensive, the name is a pure translation of Black Protective Squad, no relation to anything else
schutzstaffel
you have been petitioned, either for poor translation skills, extremely poor knowledge about 20th century history or plain stupidity!
Ethidium....you are officially an idiot. I don't need to explain why you're an idiot, just take it on faith.
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