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Silanah H	Posted - 2009.09.26 09:10:00 - [1] Hi i have been searching around the internet looking some info on this but i cant find it anywhere so i'll ask. When i try to record a 'keybind' (i say keybind for the benefit of myself so i don't get bombarded with zomg haxor macros) for low or mid slot its acting like i never actually used Ctrl or alt key before hand and just uses F1 ect ect. Even when i record key delays in it still wont work and just activates highslot. is there a way around this or do i have to rebind lowslot to something totally diffrent for it to work then record ? thanks and sorry if this is posted in wrong section
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2009.09.26 09:22:00 - [2] If it's any similar to microsoft x6 keyboard then when you define your keyboard keybind make it first press down alt then insert approx 25 ms or so pause then type in your function keys you want to activate with small pauses between them, say 25 ms or so and then enter again short pause, before your script relases alt key. Or ctrl. Depending if you want to use mid or low slots. It does work for me. Have dropped hardeners under one button and some low slots on another button (for example activating damage control and sensor boosters with one clik after jumping into system when in fleet).
Chris Liath Gallente Nex Exercitus Cult of War	Posted - 2009.09.26 09:36:00 - [3] It sounds like you have it push ctrl first and then some F-key. They need to be pushed simultaneously. Configure the ctrl to last long enough for the F-key to be pressed in the same time interval. "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Silanah H	Posted - 2009.09.26 09:57:00 - [4] yeh i have tried making it so ctrl is held down for the whole process then .5 seconds later it will trigger F1 then another .5 seconds F2 then when its finished it will release ctrl but it still seems to not register the ctrl being pushed at all and just wants to activate highs. ill keep trying some stuff thanks for the replys
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.09.26 10:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Silanah H yeh i have tried making it so ctrl is held down for the whole process then .5 seconds later it will trigger F1 then another .5 seconds F2 then when its finished it will release ctrl but it still seems to not register the ctrl being pushed at all and just wants to activate highs. ill keep trying some stuff thanks for the replys If you use the manual record function, keeping ctrl pressed while doing your key sequence should add it without any issues. Same goes from the software control panel, keep ctrl pressed while hitting F1 and it'll record is as CTRL+F1, and work just fine.
Drichter	Posted - 2009.09.26 10:57:00 - [6] Well, for single low/med-slots i don't use the 'macro-function', but the 'bind key' (don't know how it is named in the English software, i mean the one on the top when right-clicking on a g-key in the profiler). There u can simply hit ctrl, alt, shift and the key u desire ... like F3.
Silanah H	Posted - 2009.09.26 11:12:00 - [7] Edited by: Silanah H on 26/09/2009 11:15:39 yeh i duno something dodgy is going on sigh. Changed all the med slot hotkeys to Crtl L, Crtl K, Crtl J, and Crtl H but even when i use create macro ctrl l k j and j all with .5 second delay it still trys to use just my high slots set as f1 f2 f3 f4 ill try reinstalling G15 drivers i cant find them for win 7 lol .... thanks for help edit: it works fine out of game in the G15 test macro thingy i can see it using the proper keys with ctrl down so i dont know =(
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.09.26 11:57:00 - [8] Don't use the physical key on the keyboard for makeing keybinds. Use the Logitech software. You'll see the actual keypresses and can put in delays and such.. Double click on the Logitech G-Series Key Profiler icon in your taskbar, left click on the key you want to use G16 Assign macro Create new macro name macro on left. Click start recording on right. Press CTRL and hold it. Then do F1-whatever depending on how you want the bind to be. For Lows and mids it should look like this (Arrow down)CTRL 0.250 Sec Delay(You'll have to manually put this delay in) (Arrow down)F1 (Arrow up) F1 0.250 Sec Delay (Arrow up) CTRL You NEED the delays, as otherwise it'll press ctrl and F1 at the same time. I've been useing the G15 since it came out. I have ones for each of my 3 mid slots, each of my 3 lows and fire all high's, as well, as ones for each email address, drone controls(Attack, return and orbit, and dock), fire all mids, and fire all lows. It just takes time, and you'll have to tinker with the timing on your pc. When I upgraded to a faster Quad core, with more ram, I had to tweak my delays a little longer, as the keypresses were sent too fast.
JaseNZ Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.26 12:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Cors Don't use the physical key on the keyboard for makeing keybinds. Use the Logitech software. You'll see the actual keypresses and can put in delays and such.. Double click on the Logitech G-Series Key Profiler icon in your taskbar, left click on the key you want to use G16 Assign macro Create new macro name macro on left. Click start recording on right. Press CTRL and hold it. Then do F1-whatever depending on how you want the bind to be. For Lows and mids it should look like this (Arrow down)CTRL 0.250 Sec Delay(You'll have to manually put this delay in) (Arrow down)F1 (Arrow up) F1 0.250 Sec Delay (Arrow up) CTRL You NEED the delays, as otherwise it'll press ctrl and F1 at the same time. I've been useing the G15 since it came out. I have ones for each of my 3 mid slots, each of my 3 lows and fire all high's, as well, as ones for each email address, drone controls(Attack, return and orbit, and dock), fire all mids, and fire all lows. It just takes time, and you'll have to tinker with the timing on your pc. When I upgraded to a faster Quad core, with more ram, I had to tweak my delays a little longer, as the keypresses were sent too fast. I've tried just that, doesn't seem to pick up the control press, and I have tried up to a 3 second delay between Ctrl and the F key. Combinations for the High and Mid slots work fine, but not the Lows.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.09.26 15:23:00 - [10] Edited by: Cors on 26/09/2009 15:23:14 are you by any chance using a program like input director or Synergy to use one keyboard/mouse across 2 computers? if so, sometimes if you move from one screen to another with a Key pressed, it still thinks it's pressed when you come back. Rebooting usually fixes it. If the answer is no, and it's still not recording JUST the CTRL, then go in game and make sure the Ctrl button IS working. I've worn out 2 G15's in 3 years as the left Ctrl is PTT on vent/TS for me, so it's one of my most used keys. Also try binding the Right CTRL instead of the left to macro your Mids/Lows.

Coch Draig Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.09.26 15:35:00 - [11] whats this?....... MACROS! nnnghhgh!!! Originally by: Zymurgist Locked. Petitions are the only way to deal with this issue there is nothing the forums can help you with. Please stop opening multiple threads. Zymurgist
Skogen Gump The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.09.26 15:48:00 - [12] I'm pretty sure the GMs have said that G15/19's are fine as the macro's don't actually play the game for you. I'm using a G19 now and I've had no problems recording macros for EVE, sometimes though it might help to record the macro at your desktop instead of in-game ...
Silanah H	Posted - 2009.09.26 15:48:00 - [13] http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss309/pewpew1221/G15.jpg this is what it looks like. i have remaped the kees for my low slots in eve to Ctrl l, k, j, and h. but when i try to use it it does nothing. i have tested it outside of the game in the actual errr g15 setup menu it has a test profile and you can watch it pause for the required time and hold down ctrl key and cycle through but still nothing ingame. i dont know what else to do it works fine for using just 1 low module say like i just set it to use Ctrl L and it will use that one any more then that and it does nothing.
Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.09.26 16:00:00 - [14] Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 26/09/2009 16:05:04 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 26/09/2009 16:04:28 I have my macro mining setup working fine with the G15. Example: (Arrow down) CTRL [Whichever key presses I want] 0.1s delay (Arrow up) CTRL Essentially you need a short delay between releasing your F keys and the Ctrl or Shift key. Edit: saw your above post, that macro is going to take a few seconds to run with all those delays. One of mine.
Silanah H	Posted - 2009.09.26 16:15:00 - [15] Quote: Edit: saw your above post, that macro is going to take a few seconds to run with all those delays. One of mine. yeh i know it will take time the point was even with .25 second delay it still isn't registering anything. Anything over 1 module and it doesn't seem to work.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.09.26 17:48:00 - [16] Edited by: Cors on 26/09/2009 17:55:53 you should only need the delay after the first CTL or alt or Shift, then before you unpress those keys. as for why your macro doesn't work, no idea. It should... It should look like that with the same delay at the end before you unpress the ctrl button
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2009.09.26 18:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Cors Edited by: Cors on 26/09/2009 17:55:53 you should only need the delay after the first CTL or alt or Shift, then before you unpress those keys. as for why your macro doesn't work, no idea. It should... It should look like that with the same delay at the end before you unpress the ctrl button Yep, this is almost exacyly how several of my G15 macros look, and they've worked fine for quite some time now. ----------------
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2009.09.26 19:36:00 - [18] Try putting times for the duration of F key being pressed down also. I'm not familiar with G15, but in X6 if you do not put duration for keypress it can not work sometimes when there is slight lag or some other activity happening in the background. Ie something like control down, 25 ms, f1 down, 25 ms, f1 up, 25 ms, etcetc. You have plenty of time in there as EVE does most things that activate or deactivate at full second intervals (ie if your guns stop firing and have RoF of 8.4 sec you can't reactivate them anyway before 9 sec is up) so you have whole 1000 ms in there free to be distributed for all kind of delays and durations to make it work even under lag.
Silanah H	Posted - 2009.09.26 20:02:00 - [19] well i duno i tried everything posted here ill reinstall the drivers when i can find ones for win7 and go back to clicking due to lack of decent binds =( thanks for all the help
JaseNZ Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.26 20:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Cors Also try binding the Right CTRL instead of the left to macro your Mids/Lows. No joy with that either Originally by: Silanah H well i duno i tried everything posted here ill reinstall the drivers when i can find ones for win7 Logitech site says there aren't any, but they will release them closer to the official Windows 7 release date...so it's just a matter of waiting. I have a G13 as well, it was a paperweight without any drivers lol, so I came back to Vista until the new drivers are released.

Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.09.26 22:32:00 - [21] Edited by: Cors on 26/09/2009 22:36:22 Edited by: Cors on 26/09/2009 22:32:23 Originally by: JaseNZ Originally by: Cors Also try binding the Right CTRL instead of the left to macro your Mids/Lows. No joy with that either Originally by: Silanah H well i duno i tried everything posted here ill reinstall the drivers when i can find ones for win7 Logitech site says there aren't any, but they will release them closer to the official Windows 7 release date...so it's just a matter of waiting. I have a G13 as well, it was a paperweight without any drivers lol, so I came back to Vista until the new drivers are released. Use the normal Vista 32/64 drivers. It's what I'm useing on Win7 Build 7100, and have been since about january. edit: I'm going to ask just JUST in case. In EVE, you normally see 3 sets of icons for modules you can activate. they're in 3 rows. The top is your "High", The middle is your "mids" The bottom is your "Lows" when you're trying to activate a mid slot with your macro, that modules icon IS in the right "Mid" slot on your HUD right? I know this is a nobrainer, but I had a corp mate who didn't realise that the alt-F1, Ctrl-F1 corresponded to the modules location on the HUD, and not to the layout in the Ship Fitting window.
N Ano	Posted - 2009.09.26 23:38:00 - [22] For the G15 i just use assign keystroke and push the buttons needed. for example ctrl+1 or whatever. then i have different macros for example f1-f6 or f1-f3 and f4-f6
JaseNZ Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.27 00:47:00 - [23] Edited by: JaseNZ on 27/09/2009 00:55:37 Originally by: Cors Use the normal Vista 32/64 drivers. It's what I'm useing on Win7 Build 7100, and have been since about january. edit: I'm going to ask just JUST in case. In EVE, you normally see 3 sets of icons for modules you can activate. they're in 3 rows. The top is your "High", The middle is your "mids" The bottom is your "Lows" when you're trying to activate a mid slot with your macro, that modules icon IS in the right "Mid" slot on your HUD right? I know this is a nobrainer, but I had a corp mate who didn't realise that the alt-F1, Ctrl-F1 corresponded to the modules location on the HUD, and not to the layout in the Ship Fitting window. Tried the drivers, said it wouldn't install because it wasn't designed for that version of windows or some such. I know what you are getting at with the High, Mid, Lows, and yes they are all in the correct place on the layout. If I ativate a High or Mid slot with my G keys, they work fine...if I activate a Low slot, I get nothing, the LCD flashes that that macro was activated, but nothing in game. If I shift a Low slot mod into a Mid or High slot, and press the associated G key for that slot (High Slot 1, Mid Slot 1, that sort of thing) the shifted mod activates. Everything appears fine in the Logitech Macro demo screen...I think the game just doesn't seem to be picking up the macro doing that Ctrl-F key combination. If I press Ctrl F1 myself, it activates that low slot no problem. If it was just the Ctrl press it wasn't detecting, then it should detect the F keys being pressed, and activate that High slot, but it doesn't. Originally by: N Ano For the G15 i just use assign keystroke and push the buttons needed. for example ctrl+1 or whatever. then i have different macros for example f1-f6 or f1-f3 and f4-f6 Tried that, and it activates the appropriate Low slot, but doesn't seem to if you use the macro editor to make the macro. Edit: Ok, now that I tried what N Ano suggested, then switched back to my Low Slot macro, the smegger is working.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.09.27 00:53:00 - [24] Try upping the delay. From .25 seconds to .5, or .75. It could be your computer isn't doing a long enough delay.


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