Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.

Once your security status reaches -5 you are considered an outlaw and can be attacked by players anywhere without CONCORD intervention. Be really careful about CONCORD Assembly Sovereignty! - CONCORD marks the ship as an outlaw and you are not able to jump out of the system or move in general; you will be shot down!

CCP needs to perma ban bot users.

OP uses bots

Let me guess. You got ganked?

Your idea would limit this for some players.

CCP needs to perma ban bot users.

OP uses bots.

Several months ago I created my own mining bot program. I was pulling in about 250 mil a day but was not satisfied. How could I raise the price of ICE? The price of ICE was low because of mining bots. I decided to start writing anti-botting threads on all the forums. I wanted CCP to change the mechanics of the game to put other bot programs out of action. I knew I could change my program to compensate for any changes CCP could make. After several months of campaigning against bots CCP finally started taking action against them. The only problem is they started banning players instead of changing the game mechanics. I soon got banned. Dont worry this is not my main char, its only an alt.

No, they really don't.

Ive been ganked a number of times over the years but now CCP seems to support goonswarm putting bounties on ships.

Ive been ganked a number of times over the years

Tippia I have yet to see you agree with anything that anyone posts, its becoming tedious.
The boundaries seems to be getting more and more blurred. YOu want to allow any one and everyone to go anywhere and everywhere and do whatever they like without consequence.

Fine lets just remove securtiy altogether because quite frankly its meaningless and pointless, because game mechanics allows you to circumvent said 'supposed restrictions'

Tippia I have yet to see you agree with anything that anyone posts, its becoming tedious.

YOu want to allow any one and everyone to go anywhere and everywhere and do whatever they like without consequence.

Fine lets just remove securtiy altogether because quite frankly its meaningless and pointless, because game mechanics allows you to circumvent said 'supposed restrictions'

Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.

Funny story bro ...

-5.00 sec status grants you "outlaw" status, and ANY OTHER CAPSULEER CAN SHOOT YOU WITHOUT CONCORD REPERCUSSIONS.

So, pretty much, it's your fault if you ignore a -5 pilot and subsequently get ganked.

Oh dear another noob, yes but the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS and NOT fitted for pvp!

Irrelevant. Those -5s are still free for all to shoot, and it's still up to the players to GÇ£banGÇ£ them from highsec GÇö whether they're noobs or not makes no difference.

There is still no need for CCP to restrict their movement.

Oh, and if Velicita is a n00b, what's so wrong about him ganking other n00bs?

To prove this immunity exists, get to outlaw status and fly a faction-fit CNR through high sec. Please, record it for peer review, and, remember, it must be repeated at least three times to be considered a valid experiment.

Wait, how'd my argument of "shoot the -5 pilot" turn into "Vel is a newb-ganking n00b"?

Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.

the people you are ganking are usually NOOBS

im down with this as long as every player with 1 million sp is banned from hi-sec

>Hulks
>New players

lmao

Because you suggested that someone shoot something, and that level of unrepentant savagery obviously indicates that you do nothing but feast on the bones of the innocent and unwary.

Fit warp stabs, nanos, and run 4TW

players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity.

Fit warp stabs, nanos, and run 4TW

Or, maybe, you can test whether his immunity is iron clad.

So, Gank alts only?

throwawaygank alts must be protected at all costs it's all a part of the NTAE (new throwaway alt experience). i love me some made up acronyms

>Hulks
>New players

lmao

He's obviously talking about someone using an orca and people with -5 and lower running in with capsule to grab a ship and gank. No one is going to pop a capsule at gates in high sec unless the guy lags out. Outlaw status is irrelevant at that point, as they just get concorded and do it again. The only way to stop it is to not allow outlaws to board ships in space in high sec, but that makes no sense with game mechanics.

According to this old thread it takes about 30 days to train for a Hulk. A thirty day old player, I'd still consider a noob. Also, he will be in other gank target mining barges before that.

There are filthy industry corps out there that encourage players to get into a mining barge or exhumer as fast as possible. So I think many of your gank targets are still noobs in one way or another (one way being "new", the other being "clueless").

Make them unable to dock in hisec

A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.

it would seem HS Players just wants to baby them and not let them pay for their actions.

ccp shouldn't ban players with -5 or below from hi sec. what ccp should do is deny them docking rights in hi sec. low sec, fine, null sec fine. there needs to be penalty for the things you do. as it stands, griefers run free and wild all over hi sec. every couple of weeks i run around in my inty trying to catch red pods, and every time its the same thing:

pirate docks, cant do jack.
pirate undocks, immunity sets in, cant even target them, they warp away instantly.
pirate hits a gate, jumps. again nothing.
pirate pops out of the gate, instantly warps off, again, nothing.

it would seem ccp just wants to baby them and not let them pay for their actions.

CCP needs to perma ban bot users.

OP uses bots.

... Isn't a sub -5 status in HS an indicator of "You can violence them without repercussion from Concord"?

edit, yup.



From here.


So... they are "banned" ... it's just up to you to enforce the "ban".

Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.

How many WCS stop a WDG?

Assuming you fit 1 nano and 4 stabs, what stops 5 points / 3 scrams from stopping you?

I'll let you mull over this and weigh it against why you don't see red CNRs flitting about highsec.

Biggest issue when playing in a sandbox is it requires you to exist in a place full of kids with sand in their pants.

And this is the OP in that thread for all of you that don't like to follow links:



BTW, this is the best bot tears thread in a while.

Tippia I have yet to see you agree with anything that anyone posts, its becoming tedious.

Most people aren't going to pop an outlaw capsule at a gate, mostly because it's nearly impossible in high sec. The idea that the players can keep them from moving about high sec is as idiotic as the OP. Perhaps if they went to a hub where people have ships designed to target as fast as possible, but that's not where they're going. They're going to meet up with their orca full of ships ready for them to gank people. This is just one of those "exploits" or "emergent gameplay" that CCP can't get involved in, without seriously trying to warp the physics of the game.

Most people aren't going to pop an outlaw capsule at a gate, mostly because it's nearly impossible in high sec.

According to this old thread it takes about 30 days to train for a Hulk. A thirty day old player, I'd still consider a noob. Also, he will be in other gank target mining barges before that.

There are filthy industry corps out there that encourage players to get into a mining barge or exhumer as fast as possible. So I think many of your gank targets are still noobs in one way or another (one way being "new", the other being "clueless").

According to this old thread it takes about 30 days to train for a Hulk. A thirty day old player, I'd still consider a noob. Also, he will be in other gank target mining barges before that.

There are filthy industry corps out there that encourage players to get into a mining barge or exhumer as fast as possible. So I think many of your gank targets are still noobs in one way or another (one way being "new", the other being "clueless").

From here.


So... they are "banned" ... it's just up to you to enforce the "ban".

Are -0.5 players attacked by CONCORD's insta-death squad, or the empire ships you can tank/escape from?

Not that it matters, but I believe he was saying that low security capsuleers could travel with 'impunity,' not 'immunity.'



Are -0.5 players attacked by CONCORD's insta-death squad, or the empire ships you can tank/escape from?

Why even have hi-sec or a security standing if players with -5 or lower security standing can play in hi-sec with imunity. A player who reaches -5 should be banned from entering or playing in hi-sec.