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Redyll	Posted - 2009.09.29 10:11:00 - [1] Would this be a good hitt and run fitting on my vaga ? Low slot: Gyrostabilizer II Low slot: Gyrostabilizer II Low slot: Gyrostabilizer II Low slot: Gyrostabilizer II Low slot: Power Diagnostic system II Med slot: Large Shield Extender II Med slot: Large Shield Extender II Med slot: Warp Disruptor II Med slot: 10MN MicroWarpDrive II High slot: Dual 180mm AutoCannon II High slot: Dual 180mm AutoCannon II High slot: Dual 180mm AutoCannon II High slot: Dual 180mm AutoCannon II High slot: Dual 180mm AutoCannon II High slot: 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction Rig slot: Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Rig slot: Core Defence Field Extender I Drones: 5x Warrior II Have tested some diff fittings on this nice ship but still need to polish it little..
Fastbikkel T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2009.09.29 10:55:00 - [2] I would remove one Gyrostabilizer. Because of stacking penalty more than 3 items is pretty useless. In fact, the 3rd one already adds very little. -If the enemy is in range, so are you-
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:39:00 - [3] Needs a cap booster. Vagabond with no cap booster = can't run the MWD very long and incredibly vulnerable to neuts. Also, trade the PDU and a gyro for two nanofibers. Speed is life. -----------
Suitonia Gallente HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:41:00 - [4] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Needs a cap booster. Vagabond with no cap booster = can't run the MWD very long and incredibly vulnerable to neuts. Also, trade the PDU and a gyro for two nanofibers. Speed is life. Are you trolling? --- Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Redyll	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:43:00 - [5] Are you trolling? That means what ?
Suitonia Gallente HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:47:00 - [6] I mean you probably shouldn't put a cap injector on a Vagabond. Anyway, didn't mean to derail the thread. Your Vagabond setup is fine, but I would swap a Gyrostabilizer out for a damage control II and fit Ambit rigs on it instead. --- Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Merin Ryskin Needs a cap booster. Vagabond with no cap booster = can't run the MWD very long and incredibly vulnerable to neuts. Also, trade the PDU and a gyro for two nanofibers. Speed is life. Are you trolling? No. But feel free to skip the cap booster on your Vagabonds, my Curse loves it when one neut cycle brings you to a complete standstill and leaves you helplessly waiting for me to kill you. -----------
Suitonia Gallente HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:53:00 - [8] Why would you engage a Curse in a Vagabond? --- Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Redyll	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:54:00 - [9] Edited by: Redyll on 29/09/2009 11:54:53 Anyway, didn't mean to derail the thread. Your Vagabond setup is fine, but I would swap a Gyrostabilizer out for a damage control II and fit Ambit rigs on it instead. Ok this im gonna test, I guess that Barrage M is the best ammo suited mostly. And ofc I pic my targets also.
Sidephex Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.09.29 11:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Suitonia Why would you engage a Curse in a Vagabond? because u have a CAP INJECTOR ofc...
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.09.29 12:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Merin Ryskin Needs a cap booster. Vagabond with no cap booster = can't run the MWD very long and incredibly vulnerable to neuts. Also, trade the PDU and a gyro for two nanofibers. Speed is life. Are you trolling? No. But feel free to skip the cap booster on your Vagabonds, my Curse loves it when one neut cycle brings you to a complete standstill and leaves you helplessly waiting for me to kill you. Cap booster isn't going to help you against a curse anyway; one cycle of the MWD doesn't do much since while you can MWD into range theres's nothing to keep the curse there. Vaga v. Curse is a no-win fight for the Vaga. Vaga has pretty anemic cap but since you don't need to permarun the MWD anyway you can definitely go without a cap booster. I - and most Vagabond pilots - do it all the time, and that's because it's unnecessary on the ship.
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.09.29 12:17:00 - [12] This has to be Ryskin attempting to be "edgy" and "funny" by trolling because that is the single-most ****ed thing I've seen him say. And he's said a lot of ****ed things. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.09.29 12:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Needs a cap booster. Vagabond with no cap booster = can't run the MWD very long and incredibly vulnerable to neuts. Also, trade the PDU and a gyro for two nanofibers. Speed is life. Merin and experience is a nono togeather... no sane vaga pilot would put up a cap booster over a LSE. [Vagabond, tank] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I 5x small drones This is a well tested and flown setup
Redyll	Posted - 2009.09.29 12:39:00 - [14] Merin and experience is a nono togeather... no sane vaga pilot would put up a cap booster over a LSE. [Vagabond, tank] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I 5x small drones This is a well tested and flown setup Dosnt 180mm gunns hitt better with the better tracking speed or 220mm is better ?
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.09.29 12:49:00 - [15] Edited by: Intigo on 29/09/2009 12:51:39 Originally by: Redyll Merin and experience is a nono togeather... no sane vaga pilot would put up a cap booster over a LSE. [Vagabond, tank] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I 5x small drones This is a well tested and flown setup Quote: Dosnt 180mm gunns hitt better with the better tracking speed or 220mm is better ? 220s are ok, I would personally go for 180s and Ambits as I do a lot of Interceptor-killing and every bit of tracking helps. It's personal preference though, 180s is the common choice among most solo PvP'ers as you need the tracking to get those pesky things off you. The fit I prefer (because of the rig prices T2 Medium Ambits are cheap) is this one, also takes into account overheat management: [Vagabond, Double T2 Ambit] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Projectile Ambit Extension II Projectile Ambit Extension II Warrior II x5 Swapped out the PDS for a Nano as you don't need it when you use 180s. It's good for cap management though, but I can't live without atleast having one speed mod. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
Redyll	Posted - 2009.09.29 13:03:00 - [16] Originally by: Intigo Edited by: Intigo on 29/09/2009 12:51:39 Originally by: Redyll Merin and experience is a nono togeather... no sane vaga pilot would put up a cap booster over a LSE. [Vagabond, tank] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I 5x small drones This is a well tested and flown setup Quote: Dosnt 180mm gunns hitt better with the better tracking speed or 220mm is better ? 220s are ok, I would personally go for 180s and Ambits as I do a lot of Interceptor-killing and every bit of tracking helps. It's personal preference though, 180s is the common choice among most solo PvP'ers as you need the tracking to get those pesky things off you. The fit I prefer (because of the rig prices T2 Medium Ambits are cheap) is this one, also takes into account overheat management: [Vagabond, Double T2 Ambit] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Projectile Ambit Extension II Projectile Ambit Extension II Warrior II x5 Swapped out the PDS for a Nano as you don't need it when you use 180s. It's good for cap management though, but I can't live without atleast having one speed mod. Il use that and see thnx alot.
Nodaddy Notthecupboard Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.29 13:04:00 - [17] What is all this sh*tfit nonsense? This is how to fit a vaga: Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II (Damage Control II or Nano II to taste) Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Medium Neut II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I 5 X Warrior II Orbit in falloff and pulse MWD to keep range.
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.09.29 14:12:00 - [18] [Vagabond, PVP 180mm] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Projectile Ambit Extension I Projectile Ambit Extension I Warrior II x5
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.09.29 14:24:00 - [19] Thanks for posting 2 (slighly worse) versions of the same fit that I just posted, guys. Banging good job. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned	Posted - 2009.09.29 14:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Intigo Thanks for posting 2 (slighly worse) versions of the same fit that I just posted, guys. Banging good job. The nano + damage control vs 2 nano is a matter of taste really. I think the damage control is worth having but I've flown without it before. I've also seen damage control + tracking enhancer variation too, I'm a bit iffy on that one unless you specifically aiming to shred interceptors. ~~~ [ 2009.02.05 09:37:43 ] Louis Trenker > - Who's ship is this?- It's a Titan baby.- Who's Titan is this?- BoB's.- Who's BoB?- BoB's dead baby! BoB's dead!
arbiter reborn	Posted - 2009.09.29 15:20:00 - [21] Originally by: Norwood Franskly Originally by: Intigo Thanks for posting 2 (slighly worse) versions of the same fit that I just posted, guys. Banging good job. The nano + damage control vs 2 nano is a matter of taste really. I think the damage control is worth having but I've flown without it before. I've also seen damage control + tracking enhancer variation too, I'm a bit iffy on that one unless you specifically aiming to shred interceptors. if they make traking enhancers effect fallof in dominion itl be werth it for now tho i agree there not really worth it
Raimo Red Federation	Posted - 2009.09.29 18:07:00 - [22] Poor old Merin.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.09.29 18:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Raimo Poor old Merin. Not really. Sure, he may go against general convention, but that does not mean he is wrong, only that the general populace is thick But that is not something new. People are scared of different setups. And tbh if a vage get cauget its 2nd LSE will not save him, but running MWD for long long times might.
Raimo Red Federation	Posted - 2009.09.29 19:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Lindsay Logan But that is not something new. People are scared of different setups. And tbh if a vage get cauget its 2nd LSE will not save him, but running MWD for long long times might. Hi Merin, let me introduce you to the warp scrambler...
Suitonia Gallente HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.09.29 19:23:00 - [25] If you are caught, you most likely are going to be scrammed/webbed anyway. Unless you somehow get caught by a curse/Neuting BS off gate or something (your mistake). --- Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.09.29 20:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: Raimo Poor old Merin. Not really. Sure, he may go against general convention, but that does not mean he is wrong, only that the general populace is thick But that is not something new. People are scared of different setups. And tbh if a vage get cauget its 2nd LSE will not save him, but running MWD for long long times might. Why would a vaga engage a curse?
Cambarus Clearly Compensating	Posted - 2009.09.29 20:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: Raimo Poor old Merin. Not really. Sure, he may go against general convention, but that does not mean he is wrong, only that the general populace is thick But that is not something new. People are scared of different setups. And tbh if a vage get cauget its 2nd LSE will not save him, but running MWD for long long times might. I'm not well versed enough with his posts to know about the other ones he's made, but saying that a cap booster on a vaga is a good idea is most certainly wrong. It's not thinking outside the box, because I'd wager that just about every vaga pilot out there has considered putting a cap booster on their ship at one time or another, but the fact is that it's always, ALWAYS a bad idea. You're choosing between a second LSE and a cap injector, because the point and MWD are mandatory, and if you get tackled having that much more time to kill whatever's got you pointed/webbed is much more valuable than running the MWD longer.
Lauren Sheaperd Minmatar Cry Wolf.	Posted - 2009.10.03 12:23:00 - [28] Edited by: Lauren Sheaperd on 03/10/2009 12:25:35 Originally by: Susy Assulu Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: Raimo Poor old Merin. Not really. Sure, he may go against general convention, but that does not mean he is wrong, only that the general populace is thick But that is not something new. People are scared of different setups. And tbh if a vage get cauget its 2nd LSE will not save him, but running MWD for long long times might. Why would a vaga engage a curse? What Assulu said. Merin, when did you become an idiot? Edit; spellin. Dangerous if cornered, Ferocious as a Pack
Suas Perkone	Posted - 2009.10.03 12:42:00 - [29] Wow. Lindsay Logan proves how ignorant (s)he is in yet another thread. Well done, thanks for invalidating every argument you make! _________________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE!
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.10.03 15:52:00 - [30] Originally by: Susy Assulu Why would a vaga engage a curse? I don't know, ask the last one that tried to engage me without a cap booster? It was pretty hilarious, he did really well... for about 30 seconds. Then his cap was all gone, and all he could do was sit helplessly and wait for the bang. Stupid? Maybe. But I'll give you a hint: battleships also tend to fit neuts that can reach a Vagabond's orbit range. So unless you want to limit your Vagabond to only engaging cruisers and frigates, you're going to need a cap booster. But I guess it's your ship, if you'd rather have another 7k EHP (which buys you about 7 seconds of life if your MWD shuts off and you lose your speed) at the cost of leaving yourself vulnerable to being crippled by even a single neut, well, best of luck with that plan. -----------

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