So why can I not can flip noobs in the "sandbox"

O right because it is a sandbox WITH LIMITS....

So ccp can choose what to limit and what to not. I see no reason why HS ganking can not be limited. Here is an idea. Miner can pay concord a SMALL price to come into the belt and sit in it... ALL DAY... boom ganking prices go WAY up as you need WAY more ships.

All the sandbox bullshit needs to stop

You want PVP head over to world of tanks

**** shoots back.

'Cause we feel like it. You can choose to let us change the way you play or not. How you react to other player's influence is entirely up to you.

Let's see.

CCP puts this in-game, all the high-sec risk-averse filth take advantage of this "service" and begin making stupid amounts of risk-free ISK.

These players have ever-further bloated wallets and begin RMT'ing away their winnings because they make so much ISK they don't need to spend all of it on PLEX anymore. They also never lose a ship again, because they can rent security from CONCORD risk-free. PVPers also lose less ships, somewhat lowering the demand for high-sec's one valued commodity: Tritanium.

RMT goes through the roof. People actually playing the risky part of the game can no longer get ahead, even with Technetium. Nobody needs Tech anymore because Hulks aren't popping left and right.

Subs plummet.

EVE becomes a miner wasteland of filthy RMTers who have nobody left to buy their wares.

Your idea is brilliant. Send Hilmar a tweet, this **** is going viral!

Because most of the people banned were in HS right? They were not null RMTs... some PL member -80 billion isk wallet no.

All I read here are TEARS...

Some tech whine... good point it is a tech nerf... + 1 reason to do it... (also rere, hulks are not the only ship that needs tech)

RMT is not going to go up as said... RMT lol... was a null thing mostly...

Please tell me the RISK of mining in null... the biggest risk is the op is so large it is harder to see a hostile come into local... ROFL.

Also how can eve become a wasteland of RMTers?

With only RMT miners... first off the price if mins will go epicly low, second who is going to build stuff for the RMTers to buy?
Who is going to find the deadspace and officer mods?
The whole RMT thing would not even work...

Go learn something ROFL.

O btw...
WAR DEC THEM... o ****... can't pay for wardec protection. But ya a wardec means REALLY danager... effort, COST...

Actually, at fanfest they said that the majority of RMT botters are, in fact, in high-sec.

Congratulations on a great post, I didn't read the rest.

False premises, et al.

EDIT: Caldari High-sec, to be specific.

Just tell me when and I undock my Rokh and warp to nearby asteroid belt.

That indent in your couch is making my experience less pleasant when I come visit SoonGäó

Zhihatsu's couch lightly scratches your butt for 69 points of damage.

So why can I not can flip noobs in the "sandbox"

O right because it is a sandbox WITH LIMITS....

So ccp can choose what to limit and what to not. I see no reason why HS ganking can not be limited. Here is an idea. Miner can pay concord a SMALL price to come into the belt and sit in it... ALL DAY... boom ganking prices go WAY up as you need WAY more ships.

All the sandbox bullshit needs to stop

You want PVP head over to world of tanks

**** shoots back.

Is this a euphemism for something that I am missing here?

Oh good, more alpha male posturing on The Real EVE(tm). Just what we needed!

No one has a problem with the sandbox itself. It's more when other people **** in the sandbox that there's a problem.

No other MMO offers a single shard and a single economy driven by players where it is easily affordable in game or through real world transaction to an in-game currency (PLEX) to instantly kill a player's investment (also including time, money (subscriptions), effort, and long term investment)

The addition of the T3 BC created a gap not compensated for by by the industrial devs (if there are any left) to create ships that can counter effortless instagib.

Single shooting high value ships with a ship as affordable as a destroyer or a T3 BC while suffering no consequences (the laughable buddy system and a game where multiple simultaneous accounts is both accepted and encouraged with 3 characters given to each account) defeats the purpose of the sandbox.

The essence of the sandbox is adaptation - if one kid (alliance) forces you to build your castle with wet sand, you and your buddies turn the tables and build your castle with sand and dirt, more stable. Eve does not allow this and the benefit is being given to the aggressors who work only game mechanics and care nothing for the spirit of the game.

Statistically speaking why would more botters be caught in high-sec than in low-sec?

Are you implying that CCP uses different metrics between the two security levels?

Maybe null doesn't have logs?

Statistically, if more botters are caught in Caldari High-sec than anywhere else, that means that in all likelihood that's where the most botters are.

Edit: I like the part how I'm winning Eve and you tell me I'm losing.

so why dont the hulkageddoners focus on the botting hotspots. players will all lose ships its a given, but when its a bunch of ones and zeros commanding pilotless ships from a basement computer farm to mine 25/8 well thats not a hisec "whiner" or "bear" thats just dirty ass scum. Kill that crap, wipe them out. Theres your holy crusade, now go forth champions.

Also im still failing to understand where all the ungodly wealth supposedly is in highsec mining. pyroxeres? the odd kernite belt? really? 3-4 hours to pay for a covetor, is 10m an hour really that insane? gee all you guys need to play more if 10m per hour is too much

You're assuming we gank you because we don't like what you do. That assumption is faulty.

No other MMO offers a single shard and a single economy driven by players where it is easily affordable in game or through real world transaction to an in-game currency (PLEX) to instantly kill a player's investment (also including time, money (subscriptions), effort, and long term investment)

The addition of the T3 BC created a gap not compensated for by by the industrial devs (if there are any left) to create ships that can counter effortless instagib.

Single shooting high value ships with a ship as affordable as a destroyer or a T3 BC while suffering no consequences (the laughable buddy system and a game where multiple simultaneous accounts is both accepted and encouraged with 3 characters given to each account) defeats the purpose of the sandbox.

A productive system would be one that transects characters and accounts leading to a penalty system that seriously punishes people and their accounts, new or old, related to the incident or not.

The essence of the sandbox is adaptation - if one kid (alliance) forces you to build your castle with wet sand, you and your buddies turn the tables and build your castle with sand and dirt, more stable. Eve does not allow this and the benefit is being given to the aggressors who work only game mechanics and care nothing for the spirit of the game.

perhaps not all gankers, but what about the ones who yell without hesitation how all high sec players need to be killed. They send a pretty loud and clear message. And while im not saying highsec should be immune. I think they should first off realise that high sec mining isnt the bountifull bag of goodness they think (except for 25/8 botters). And that thier not champions of a noble cause. Thier kicking kittens, not really anyhting to be proud off. I respect killmails showing fighting ships a hell of alot more than killmails of hulks, mackinaws and industrials.

dont make high sec safe, but drop the acts of "high sec mining is too rich" and "champions of the light"