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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.10.27 17:46:00 -
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Waht information do we have about their skill requirements, and the abilities of the ships themselves?
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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.10.27 17:46:00 -
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Waht information do we have about their skill requirements, and the abilities of the ships themselves?
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Raudka
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Posted - 2004.10.27 18:33:00 -
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They haven't been playtested yet but the figures that were heard on the grapevine were 3 high slots with bonuses so they act like 9 mining slots, 5000 m3 cargo bay and 1500 m3 drone bay.
Skills, no idea.
Once they come out into playtesting they will probably be tweaked around and we can all put our 2 isk into that discussion.
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Raudka
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Posted - 2004.10.27 18:33:00 -
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They haven't been playtested yet but the figures that were heard on the grapevine were 3 high slots with bonuses so they act like 9 mining slots, 5000 m3 cargo bay and 1500 m3 drone bay.
Skills, no idea.
Once they come out into playtesting they will probably be tweaked around and we can all put our 2 isk into that discussion.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.10.27 18:47:00 -
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At a MINIMUM, I would expect:
Industry 4
Mining 5
Spaceship Command 5
[RACE] Frigate 5
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.10.27 18:47:00 -
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At a MINIMUM, I would expect:
Industry 4
Mining 5
Spaceship Command 5
[RACE] Frigate 5
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Malena
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Posted - 2004.10.27 19:23:00 -
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Personally I would expect spaceship command 5, (race) industrial 4, mining 5 and of course a special ship skill, in addition to a new mining skill, as I would think it likely that mining barges and a new mining laser appear at the same time. My impression from dev forums was that they were going to be armor and shield nerfed battleship sized platforms, so perhaps BS skill at decent level (although anyone who has the BS skill likely has it at 4) that have mining bonus instead of other bonusses. I would say probably something like the probe bonus (-60% grid usage) and the scythe bonus (+20% yield per level) but that is pure speculation.
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Malena
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Posted - 2004.10.27 19:23:00 -
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Personally I would expect spaceship command 5, (race) industrial 4, mining 5 and of course a special ship skill, in addition to a new mining skill, as I would think it likely that mining barges and a new mining laser appear at the same time. My impression from dev forums was that they were going to be armor and shield nerfed battleship sized platforms, so perhaps BS skill at decent level (although anyone who has the BS skill likely has it at 4) that have mining bonus instead of other bonusses. I would say probably something like the probe bonus (-60% grid usage) and the scythe bonus (+20% yield per level) but that is pure speculation.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.10.27 19:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Sc0rpion
At a MINIMUM, I would expect:
[RACE] Frigate 5
they come in small/medium/large that we are sure of (possibly extra large, but not sure, since Oveur said 12 new ships, we know theres 4 destroyers, 4 battlecruisers and 3 barges .. so I'd expect a fourth barge myself .. unless theyre still hiding something)
As such they are race neutral .. so I'd be very surprised if they used any specific races ship skills (though I guess they could use every races ship skills heh)
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.10.27 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sc0rpion
At a MINIMUM, I would expect:
[RACE] Frigate 5
they come in small/medium/large that we are sure of (possibly extra large, but not sure, since Oveur said 12 new ships, we know theres 4 destroyers, 4 battlecruisers and 3 barges .. so I'd expect a fourth barge myself .. unless theyre still hiding something)
As such they are race neutral .. so I'd be very surprised if they used any specific races ship skills (though I guess they could use every races ship skills heh)
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Issle
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Posted - 2004.10.27 20:31:00 -
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It may work just like Interceptor & Assault Ship. It's not a racial based skill at all, though will have similar pre-req's to the others before you can learn it. I'd expect industry/mining, possibly astrogeology, because of the nature of it all. A ship like that with a few cargo expanders, you could make an iceminer, even if you would up with jetcans everywhere.
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Issle
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Posted - 2004.10.27 20:31:00 -
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It may work just like Interceptor & Assault Ship. It's not a racial based skill at all, though will have similar pre-req's to the others before you can learn it. I'd expect industry/mining, possibly astrogeology, because of the nature of it all. A ship like that with a few cargo expanders, you could make an iceminer, even if you would up with jetcans everywhere.
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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.10.28 14:16:00 -
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I dream of owning a mining barge. :)
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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.10.28 14:16:00 -
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I dream of owning a mining barge. :)
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.10.28 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drusilla
I dream of owning a mining barge. :)
Me too, except that in my dreams it's the only ship I own.
Oh, and it's more of a nightmare really 
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.10.28 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drusilla
I dream of owning a mining barge. :)
Me too, except that in my dreams it's the only ship I own.
Oh, and it's more of a nightmare really
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.10.28 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Toran Mehtar
Originally by: Drusilla
I dream of owning a mining barge. :)
Me too, except that in my dreams it's the only ship I own.
Oh, and it's more of a nightmare really
Lmao, yeah sounds like something to wake up from sweating bad. 
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.10.28 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Toran Mehtar
Originally by: Drusilla
I dream of owning a mining barge. :)
Me too, except that in my dreams it's the only ship I own.
Oh, and it's more of a nightmare really
Lmao, yeah sounds like something to wake up from sweating bad.
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Raudka
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Posted - 2004.10.28 15:11:00 -
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New from the grapevine
Requirements would probably not be Industrial anything but astrogeology (since it's a mining ship and not a hauler).
3 sizes, requiring Mining Barge lvl 1, 3 and 5.
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Raudka
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Posted - 2004.10.28 15:11:00 -
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New from the grapevine
Requirements would probably not be Industrial anything but astrogeology (since it's a mining ship and not a hauler).
3 sizes, requiring Mining Barge lvl 1, 3 and 5.
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Minyon
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Posted - 2004.10.28 15:36:00 -
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Mining Barges are really just a missing ship class and are only tech1 ships (i think). So i would like the repuirements to be something like the Industrial ships skill so frigate lvl4 and star ship comand lvl3 then a new skill for the ships which would be needed to get to lvl4 or 5 to get the large one that out mines the apoc. After all thay are only adding these as it is a bit silly that any one who is in to mining needs to get a battleship to be good at it, its just not very role playe 
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Minyon
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Posted - 2004.10.28 15:36:00 -
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Mining Barges are really just a missing ship class and are only tech1 ships (i think). So i would like the repuirements to be something like the Industrial ships skill so frigate lvl4 and star ship comand lvl3 then a new skill for the ships which would be needed to get to lvl4 or 5 to get the large one that out mines the apoc. After all thay are only adding these as it is a bit silly that any one who is in to mining needs to get a battleship to be good at it, its just not very role playe
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2004.10.28 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Minyon
Mining Barges are really just a missing ship class and are only tech1 ships (i think). So i would like the repuirements to be something like the Industrial ships skill so frigate lvl4 and star ship comand lvl3 then a new skill for the ships which would be needed to get to lvl4 or 5 to get the large one that out mines the apoc. After all thay are only adding these as it is a bit silly that any one who is in to mining needs to get a battleship to be good at it, its just not very role playe
I have to agree, this is a ship that should have been part of the game at the beginning seeing as though mining is such a big part of this game. Granted there should be a seperate skill for it as it is an all together different ship than anything out there. But again should only be tech 1 so should be same level as the indy skill.
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2004.10.28 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Minyon
Mining Barges are really just a missing ship class and are only tech1 ships (i think). So i would like the repuirements to be something like the Industrial ships skill so frigate lvl4 and star ship comand lvl3 then a new skill for the ships which would be needed to get to lvl4 or 5 to get the large one that out mines the apoc. After all thay are only adding these as it is a bit silly that any one who is in to mining needs to get a battleship to be good at it, its just not very role playe
I have to agree, this is a ship that should have been part of the game at the beginning seeing as though mining is such a big part of this game. Granted there should be a seperate skill for it as it is an all together different ship than anything out there. But again should only be tech 1 so should be same level as the indy skill.
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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.10.28 20:28:00 -
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Since they were NOT included at the beginning, I am of the impression that even the smallest of them will have to be able to outmine an Apoc to be of any use. As they are likely to be costly, and as most high end miners already have BS to mine in, to get folks to give up their nice, durable battleships as mining platforms the take they generate will have to exceed what a battleship can draw in. If the level 1 mining barge won't outmine a thorax, for example, who'd use it?
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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.10.28 20:28:00 -
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Since they were NOT included at the beginning, I am of the impression that even the smallest of them will have to be able to outmine an Apoc to be of any use. As they are likely to be costly, and as most high end miners already have BS to mine in, to get folks to give up their nice, durable battleships as mining platforms the take they generate will have to exceed what a battleship can draw in. If the level 1 mining barge won't outmine a thorax, for example, who'd use it?
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.10.28 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sc0rpion
At a MINIMUM, I would expect:
Industry 4
Mining 5
Spaceship Command 5
[RACE] Frigate 5
Not only are Mining Barges tech level 1 (and thus have the normal low skill reqs associated with tech 1), they are also race neutral.
Why is it everyone wants everything new that comes out to require uber skillz? What about the new players? Destroyers, Battlecruisers, and Mining Barges are tech 1 ship classes that are being released to cover some ship classes that weren't available earlier.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.10.28 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sc0rpion
At a MINIMUM, I would expect:
Industry 4
Mining 5
Spaceship Command 5
[RACE] Frigate 5
Not only are Mining Barges tech level 1 (and thus have the normal low skill reqs associated with tech 1), they are also race neutral.
Why is it everyone wants everything new that comes out to require uber skillz? What about the new players? Destroyers, Battlecruisers, and Mining Barges are tech 1 ship classes that are being released to cover some ship classes that weren't available earlier.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.10.28 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Drusilla
If the level 1 mining barge won't outmine a thorax, for example, who'd use it?
People who can't afford (or don't have the skills) for a Thorax. They do exist, you know.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.10.28 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Drusilla
If the level 1 mining barge won't outmine a thorax, for example, who'd use it?
People who can't afford (or don't have the skills) for a Thorax. They do exist, you know.
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