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Tessen
Stellar Tide
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Posted - 2009.10.09 02:52:00 -
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Hello,
I recently read the story of a player who's account was hacked and his stolen character sold on this forum. The true owner petitioned and CCP sayed the transaction was valid and couldn't give back the character. CCP only gave him back his account why his 2 alt with basic SP. His 6 mounths character vanished.
I wil NOT comment about this and it is NOT the purpose of this message. But this gave me an idea CSM could support :
Any account owner should be able to lock any of his characters disabling possibility to sale his characters.
Of course you can still unlock any character on account management but there will be a 1 week timer before the char become available for selling.
I think this delay is enough for the true owner to declase this account was stollen if ever needed. This would lock any transaction and alow CCP to investigate about a potential theft.
PS : sry for my poor english. Ideas for a complete Bounty Hunter profession sytem. |
mazzilliu
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.09 02:59:00 -
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i think this is generally a good idea but needs to be developed more. some sort of safety lock to prevent emptying of wallets, contracting all items over, trading all items over, etc would probably help too.
what i find interesting is how the character sale went through with a legitimate credit card and a hacked account? this incident really sounds like an edge case and not worth creating a csm issue specifically over, although i really dont have petition statistics on hand to see how often this happens.
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Tessen
Stellar Tide
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Posted - 2009.10.09 03:13:00 -
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Yes, this is the reason why I sayed this is not the purpose here. This the purpose of GMs and the owner of this account not ours :) The stealing was just an ilustration about how I get this idea.
And of course the idea sould be developped more. I leave this to any CSM member or candidate, I trust them to present it well to CCP if any of them think this is a good idea. Ideas for a complete Bounty Hunter profession sytem. |
Leelya
Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.09 03:51:00 -
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/signed
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre REIGN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 05:12:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 09/10/2009 05:13:23 Not supported.
Your talking about a one in a million odds type of situation and suddenly proposing a solution is not going to help us any.
The problem started with the guys lack of common sense and or security on his computer.
Introducing a lock to someones account to prevent the char from being stolen could easily be reversed by said account hacker there by defeating your proposal.
Not supporting because the problem is the user in question... not the system.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACCOUNT SECURITY... NOT CCP.
Stop putting the burden on CCP to prevent you from doing stupid things.
Top that off that your hearing this second hand... there is no proof no documentation and CCP will not likely give you any verified facts other than rumor mills and second hand sites.
So flame away... but the facts are the facts. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Leiture
Liliis tenaci vimine jungor
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Posted - 2009.10.09 06:15:00 -
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/signed. 1 week timer would be fine to avoid illegitimate character's transfer.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.09 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tessen Yes, this is the reason why I sayed this is not the purpose here. This the purpose of GMs and the owner of this account not ours :) The stealing was just an ilustration about how I get this idea.
And of course the idea sould be developped more. I leave this to any CSM member or candidate, I trust them to present it well to CCP if any of them think this is a good idea.
yeah i have been thinking about this for a while, and when i can figure out some way to make it so that suspicious events(such as suspicious login or password reset, etc) trigger a temporary account restriction, without screwing over regular players that just want to do stuff in eve i would totally raise it as a csm issue. but i cant think of any way to do that properly right now. =\
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.10.09 10:47:00 -
[8]
Supported.
Security is the responsibility of the individual. Tools help though, and I see no harm from such options being available. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.09 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Supported.
Security is the responsibility of the individual. Tools help though, and I see no harm from such options being available.
hm... i think i will agree with that. Fix Destroyers |
JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:36:00 -
[10]
Good idea.
I could live with loosing isks and stuff but no character
supporting.
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Frabba
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.10.09 20:59:00 -
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This is a pretty good idea. Expanding on it a bit, why not require an e-mail confirmation of all transfers. This removes EVE as the single point of compromise. This way, if someone wants to sell the character, they also need to have access to the e-mail account associated with the account. Expanding on this even further, this could be tied in with character termination. Just throwing some ideas out there but all in all I support anything that makes life less painful if an account has been compromised.
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Vestus Regula
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:32:00 -
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Andrest Disch
Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2009.10.09 21:50:00 -
[13]
Supported |
Don Pellegrino
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Posted - 2009.10.10 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 09/10/2009 05:13:23 Not supported.
Your talking about a one in a million odds type of situation and suddenly proposing a solution is not going to help us any.
The problem started with the guys lack of common sense and or security on his computer.
Introducing a lock to someones account to prevent the char from being stolen could easily be reversed by said account hacker there by defeating your proposal.
Not supporting because the problem is the user in question... not the system.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACCOUNT SECURITY... NOT CCP.
Stop putting the burden on CCP to prevent you from doing stupid things.
Top that off that your hearing this second hand... there is no proof no documentation and CCP will not likely give you any verified facts other than rumor mills and second hand sites.
So flame away... but the facts are the facts.
It's not because it's rare that it's a bad idea. Also, yes, you are responsible of your account security, but you shouldnt lose years of training for either a mistake or a hack.
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Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.10.10 10:56:00 -
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It would be optional right? So why would it be a problem to implement it? And I think you should be able to determine the amount of time your characters stays locked. One week seems a bit short for me, but it mihgt seem a bit long for others.
A year seems like a good amount of time to me! I'm never selling my character, so a forever would also be a good option
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Mynxee
Hellcats The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.10.10 13:54:00 -
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I like the idea of being able to "lock" a character to prevent transfer or termination. At least it's one more obstacle. Details need sorted, but supported.
Originally by: Frabba ...why not require an e-mail confirmation of all transfers. ... if someone wants to sell the character, they also need to have access to the e-mail account associated with the account.
And although I like the idea of email confirmation as well, it is not a fail-safe. Someone who hacked or stole your login details could just log into the EVE-O site and change the email associated with the account, couldn't they?
Bump It! | My Blog: Life in Low Sec |
Kasi Kasai
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Posted - 2009.10.10 16:28:00 -
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.10.10 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Supported.
Security is the responsibility of the individual. Tools help though, and I see no harm from such options being available.
This.
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Rip Minner
Freewind Ventures
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Posted - 2009.10.10 21:56:00 -
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Very good ideal. One week timer on locked toons before you can sale them is a great ideal.
If you get hacked it buys you time to get your account back. And if your legit in wanting to sale off a pilot you will simply need to wait a one week time before doing so. Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
HEPBHOE OKOH4AHUE
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2009.10.10 22:28:00 -
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signed
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Frabba
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.10.10 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee I like the idea of being able to "lock" a character to prevent transfer or termination. At least it's one more obstacle. Details need sorted, but supported.
Originally by: Frabba ...why not require an e-mail confirmation of all transfers. ... if someone wants to sell the character, they also need to have access to the e-mail account associated with the account.
And although I like the idea of email confirmation as well, it is not a fail-safe. Someone who hacked or stole your login details could just log into the EVE-O site and change the email associated with the account, couldn't they?
One could expand on this design a fair bit. E-mail confirmation to old address confirming move to new address, adding a security question to be answered for e-mail address change, etc.
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shuckstar
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2009.10.11 01:26:00 -
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You are going to fast! Wait five minutes and try again. |
Cpt Branko
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.10.11 06:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/10/2009 06:30:02 Sounds sensible. In fact, I like the idea of a "timer" being user-defined.
There's plenty of players who don't want the terminate / sell functionality.
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Mynxee
Minmatar Hellcats The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.10.12 00:07:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Frabba E-mail confirmation to old address confirming move to new address, adding a security question to be answered for e-mail address change, etc.
Problematic, however, if for some reason the old email address is defunct for legitimate reasons.
Bump It! | My Blog: Life in Low Sec |
Aethrwolf
Podrratu
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Posted - 2009.10.12 01:57:00 -
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Optional tools to help with account security are always good. I personally am fairly careful about where I go online, but my wife isnt and if her comp dies, its marriage hell if I dont let her use mine. Absolutely everything is subjective. |
Vuk Lau
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.12 15:44:00 -
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The problem with one week timer is that I know the cases when owners petitioned their stolen accounts and after 10 or even more days characters were sold, without any actions taken by GMs
I would petition the GM who didnt banned the account imediately after your/your friends account was hacked, and then after you receive the answer from senior Game Master there is nothing they can do, then send mail to internal affairs and human resources accusing both GM who initialy handled your petition and Senior GM for covering his mistakes for doing ****ty job. Hopefully CCP will start sacking more rapidly bad apples in GM department.
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Gaven Darklighter
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.10.12 16:27:00 -
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I think the security question is a valid idea along with the e-mail confirmation. Another thing that may or may not help is to not allow important account info, such as email, until a safeguard has passed.
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.10.12 16:41:00 -
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Supported. Everyone can be the victim of account thievery. No matter how much security measures you take.
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Joahcim Merkatz
Diadochi Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.12 16:46:00 -
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RedSplat
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.10.12 16:54:00 -
[30]
Drake is right, we are responsible for our own account security.
He is misguided though.
This is WHY we should have an option to lock a character to an account to prevent transfer to another.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Siko lawk
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Posted - 2009.10.12 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Siko lawk on 12/10/2009 19:05:35 its certainly not going to create any problems
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niahoo
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Posted - 2009.10.14 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: niahoo on 14/10/2009 23:34:39 you're responsible for you'r account security but you may have problems that you do not even suspect.
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Azorius Cendrescion
Herbe de Lune
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Posted - 2009.10.15 00:32:00 -
[33]
. Azorius Cendrescion SOJS |
bhalir
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Posted - 2009.10.15 02:10:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Tessen Edited by: Tessen on 14/10/2009 23:29:00
Hello folks,
I recently read the story of a player who's account was hacked and his stolen character sold on this forum. The true owner petitioned and CCP sayed the transaction was valid and couldn't give back the character. CCP only gave him back his account why his 2 alt with basic SP. His 4 years character vanished.
I wil NOT comment about this and it is NOT the purpose of this message. But this gave me an idea CSM could support :
Because any one can one day become the victim of an undetected keyloger or whatever (sh... happen syndrom) and considering loosing stuf is not so dramatic, whereas loosing a several years/mouths char with millions of SP is different. Any account owner should be able to lock any of his characters disabling possibility to sale his characters.
Of course you can still unlock any character on account management but there will be a 1 week timer before the char become available for selling.
I think this delay is enough for the true owner to declase this account was stollen if ever needed. This would lock any transaction and alow CCP to investigate about a potential theft.
PS : sry for my poor english.
EDIT : correction about stolent character age : +80M SP represent almost 4 years...
/Signe !!
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Grarr Bexx
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Posted - 2009.10.15 02:50:00 -
[35]
Harmless and useful.
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Gabriel DiCozza
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2009.10.15 03:43:00 -
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Simunshen
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:26:00 -
[37]
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Taunting Yu
The NightClub
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:41:00 -
[38]
I'm going to have to support some sort of increased tools to protect accounts from hacking. I'm not so sure that wallet/hangar locks would be useful for normal game play. However, preventing certain things such as character transfers would be powerful tools in lessening damage hackers can do. (I'm sure there's a few other areas where it would be nice to have increased security available.)
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Zormaka Brutus
Supalayian
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:46:00 -
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Iragael
The Miner's Paradise
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Posted - 2009.10.15 06:58:00 -
[40]
/signed email control and secret question was an good idea. |
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Alvin Exe
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:02:00 -
[41]
I Alvin Exe approve this message
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Druuna Ewwith
CHON
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:13:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Druuna Ewwith on 15/10/2009 07:14:02 Yes, everybody is responsible for the security of his/her PC...
BUT!
hackers are pro programmers, finding every days ways how to hack your security. I'm not an IT specialist, and I would be very happy to have a tool to increase the security of my account. I don't really care about my assets or isk, but only the idea of knowing that at anytime my account can be stolen is very scary.
Yes please CCP, please, we are doing our best to increase our PC security, but the thiefs are everyday working on new "tools" to steal our accounts!
Good idea I think to allow the "lock" of accounts transfert. I know that I will never ever want to sell my accounts. I love this game, and hope to play it until end of time (at least mine here on earth).
a suggestion: what about creating a secure certificate for each account? without this certificate, you can not unlock your account?
also, when the hacker steal the account login/pass, and when he want to change the email address of the account, it could be possible to send a mail to the old mail address to inform about the change?
OR another way, it is used by paypal: to confirm that it's really you, they take a few cents of euro from your bank account thru your card. in the line of the payment, there is a code. you log into the paypal account management, and enter the code, so the system is sure that the guy who pay is the real owner of the account. there are several ways to increase the account security, and I hope that CCP will allow, at least, an open discussion on this.
and personnaly, if it mean that to increase my account security I will have to pay, let's say, 10$ as administration fee, I WILL DO IT! because my character, invested money, time and efforts are PRICELESS for me!
EDIT: spelling, sorry for bad english
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Ethan slayer's
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:14:00 -
[43]
+1
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Wilbrinda
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:22:00 -
[44]
/signed |
H0rbald
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:35:00 -
[45]
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matlatecnik
Gallente RENAISSANCES Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:36:00 -
[46]
signed !
Imperial Dynamics now recruting ! Contact me |
The Titi
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:37:00 -
[47]
I Support this topic
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Halphas
Solar Wings Industry
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Posted - 2009.10.15 07:55:00 -
[48]
signed.
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Tsak 1
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:15:00 -
[49]
ok
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Ayato kun
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:19:00 -
[50]
/signed
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Bladebo
Flying Blacksmiths
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:21:00 -
[51]
/signed Bladebo the blade always beautiful ^^ |
Lenclumeur
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:35:00 -
[52]
signed !
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poulpe
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:36:00 -
[53]
Signed
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Matthilde
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:02:00 -
[54]
o/
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Psycho symbiosis
Blue Sphere Foundation
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:03:00 -
[55]
/signed
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Rhum Kach
Cardshark Influence
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:09:00 -
[56]
/signed
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Kikicorky
Edo Ka
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:26:00 -
[57]
/signed
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Naoko chan
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:32:00 -
[58]
/signed
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En'ya Khaer
Night Warder
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Posted - 2009.10.15 09:45:00 -
[59]
/signed |
Nemauth 2Riva
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:07:00 -
[60]
/signed
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Sygile
Phantom Positronique Industries L-ecume QuantiQue
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:20:00 -
[61]
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Neeja Artica
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:29:00 -
[62]
/signed
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Isben Yamas
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:33:00 -
[63]
/signed
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Neela Kyl
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:34:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Neela Kyl on 15/10/2009 10:34:35 /signed
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Erzirha
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:41:00 -
[65]
/signed
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Zurtan Bayle
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:46:00 -
[66]
Good idea
/signed
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Sirgoone
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:55:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Sirgoone on 15/10/2009 10:54:53 done |
nhiddse
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Posted - 2009.10.15 10:58:00 -
[68]
/signed
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Kawa SannSucr
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:05:00 -
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galias
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:12:00 -
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Higorineth
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:23:00 -
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golmaka
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:29:00 -
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Tiberius XI
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:30:00 -
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GSMagrahorn
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:40:00 -
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Prexir
Sane Industries Inc. Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:42:00 -
[75]
+1
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Ai Kono
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:45:00 -
[76]
/signed
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Ouagadou Gou
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:46:00 -
[77]
/Signed.
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Saulline
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:55:00 -
[78]
+1
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Enilia
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:56:00 -
[79]
a good idea !!
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Rydianna
Receptifs Exiles Peragus Mining Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.15 11:58:00 -
[80]
/Signed
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Roy Callaghan
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Posted - 2009.10.15 12:06:00 -
[81]
/signed
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Min Mandragora
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Posted - 2009.10.15 12:12:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Min Mandragora on 15/10/2009 12:14:21 /signed
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Dark Mazorh
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Posted - 2009.10.15 12:25:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Dark Mazorh on 15/10/2009 12:26:35 /signed
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Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.15 13:23:00 -
[84]
Yes please
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Belixia
Cardshark Influence Quarantine Zone
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Posted - 2009.10.15 13:50:00 -
[85]
I support this idea.
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Sopaline Troy
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Posted - 2009.10.15 13:57:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Sopaline Troy on 15/10/2009 13:57:08 +1 |
Angelinou
Eclats de verre
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Posted - 2009.10.15 14:02:00 -
[87]
"Dans la vie, il y a deux types de joueurs. Ceux qui frag et ceux qui meurt, toi tu meurs." Angel. |
Lyn Farel
Lucis TechnoCustodia
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Posted - 2009.10.15 15:02:00 -
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Reverend Book
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Posted - 2009.10.15 15:07:00 -
[89]
Excellent Idea
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.10.15 15:13:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Tessen Any account owner should be able to lock any of his characters disabling possibility to sale his characters.
Of course you can still unlock any character on account management but there will be a 1 week timer before the char become available for selling.
I don't see a problem with this tool at all. I like that one week timer idea a lot. I support this. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
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Lili Lu
Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships
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Posted - 2009.10.15 16:16:00 -
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Apoptose
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Posted - 2009.10.15 16:38:00 -
[92]
+1 |
Squadron
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Posted - 2009.10.15 16:57:00 -
[93]
+1
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JerryB
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:05:00 -
[94]
[x] Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on
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maitretx
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:11:00 -
[95]
+1
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Anubis 94
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:13:00 -
[96]
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Gismork
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:31:00 -
[97]
Good idea !
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Frey Stormcrow
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:32:00 -
[98]
/signed
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Canna Lyse
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:32:00 -
[99]
signed |
Nanao Ise
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:43:00 -
[100]
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Mathilde Sunniva
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:44:00 -
[101]
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Melonne
Star's Dust Entertainment
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:47:00 -
[102]
+1
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Saullata
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:49:00 -
[103]
+1
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Corsinus Prime
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:00:00 -
[104]
/signed
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Kriptman
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:01:00 -
[105]
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Hurleur
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:02:00 -
[106]
Overall good idea.
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Elm'o
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:02:00 -
[107]
/agree
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matlatecnik
RENAISSANCES Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:17:00 -
[108]
..!
Imperial Dynamics now recruting ! Contact me |
Aimy Louis
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:20:00 -
[109]
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Tyd Drakken
PARABELUM-Project
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:40:00 -
[110]
/supported
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GwennIthill
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:46:00 -
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Olihar
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:57:00 -
[112]
+1
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George Mccloud
Domination. THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.10.15 19:03:00 -
[113]
Supported
As mentioned before I would like to see that the timer is chosen by the player instead of being set at one week.
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Martin Vaun
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Posted - 2009.10.15 19:05:00 -
[114]
+1
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Saullasky
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Posted - 2009.10.15 19:07:00 -
[115]
+1
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Tagmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.15 20:24:00 -
[116]
signed
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Mr Bump
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.10.15 21:03:00 -
[117]
signed ! |
Yarkhan
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Posted - 2009.10.15 21:41:00 -
[118]
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Argator
Fremens Space Tribe Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 23:23:00 -
[119]
+1
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Sarohul
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.10.15 23:28:00 -
[120]
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Theta Ityrh
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Posted - 2009.10.16 01:48:00 -
[121]
Signed
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.16 03:00:00 -
[122]
Edited by: mazzilliu on 16/10/2009 03:00:48 well this thread has exploded. so ill raise the issue
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Character_lock_no_resale_possible
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Anaee
Pulsar Inc. Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.16 07:56:00 -
[123]
/signed
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Asako Kisaki
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.10.16 08:15:00 -
[124]
/signed
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Goulou Goulou
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.10.16 08:17:00 -
[125]
/signed
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Toka Nambu
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.10.16 08:25:00 -
[126]
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retfetfrgerg
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Posted - 2009.10.16 09:04:00 -
[127]
signed
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Scorya
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Posted - 2009.10.16 09:12:00 -
[128]
/signed
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Erik Legant
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Posted - 2009.10.16 09:13:00 -
[129]
signed |
Adelinde Schleinitz
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Posted - 2009.10.16 09:14:00 -
[130]
/signed |
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goleane
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Posted - 2009.10.16 09:31:00 -
[131]
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Lyn Farel
Lucis TechnoCustodia
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Posted - 2009.10.16 09:48:00 -
[132]
As said on the wiki, that makes me think it could be nice to be able to apply the same lock to any character (generally the main character i presume...), considering the deletion of the mentionned character ? Not sure if that is often the case, but i would not be really happy to see a keylogger or something else trying to delete the main character if he is not able to sell it. And that action only takes 1 day, not a week.
Well, that is not like if we delete everyday our 10M++ SP character, so... I think it could be interesting to have both locks under hand ? Always in an optionnal way, of course. |
Owedd
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Posted - 2009.10.16 10:17:00 -
[133]
/signed |
Hekariss
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Posted - 2009.10.16 10:41:00 -
[134]
Signed.
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Dhasso
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Posted - 2009.10.16 10:42:00 -
[135]
/signed
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Dapperdrake
Malitia Vetus
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Posted - 2009.10.16 10:49:00 -
[136]
/signed
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meollyn
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Posted - 2009.10.16 11:04:00 -
[137]
/signed
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MasT3R
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Posted - 2009.10.16 11:33:00 -
[138]
Edited by: MasT3R on 16/10/2009 11:33:23 /signed
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Caranras
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Posted - 2009.10.16 11:38:00 -
[139]
/signed
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Shivaja
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2009.10.16 12:24:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Shivaja on 16/10/2009 12:25:05 /signed Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON CEO RONIN Shogun
COLOSSUS race Lai Dai Victory Team 2005 Silver Team member AT3 2006 Silver Team member AT6 2009 |
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Fleur Mei
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Posted - 2009.10.16 12:39:00 -
[141]
/signed
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Rob Calsil
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Posted - 2009.10.16 14:24:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Rob Calsil on 16/10/2009 14:24:26 /signed
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Tork Norand
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Posted - 2009.10.16 17:40:00 -
[143]
Nice idea. I'll support it.
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chichi lo
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Posted - 2009.10.16 17:46:00 -
[144]
Edited by: chichi lo on 16/10/2009 17:47:38 hop !
good idea so, i sign
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Agent Tama
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Posted - 2009.10.16 17:54:00 -
[145]
/signed
My recent account's problems say me it's a very good idea. Nobody can totally prevent himself from an account's stealing, internet have too much trap for all of us even if your pc have very good protections, i learn it very recently.
If the transfert option can be block for 1 week before reactivation it will be a great help for the victims like me.
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Ychom
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Posted - 2009.10.16 18:10:00 -
[146]
/signed but if the password of the "account management" is the same than the game one...
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Moribon
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Posted - 2009.10.16 21:27:00 -
[147]
signed
I would even add to the one week that if there is a petition or email for stolen account that a character could not be sold until it is resolved.
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Albya
Gallente Les chevaliers de l'ordre Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.10.16 23:08:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Albya on 16/10/2009 23:08:15 Yeaaahh very good idea ! :)
/signed -----
Who live, who see |
Camarine
Quantic Apodis FEDERATION SOLARIS
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Posted - 2009.10.17 10:54:00 -
[149]
/signed
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Spectre3353
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.17 15:49:00 -
[150]
I like. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
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Daffyd Bowie
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Posted - 2009.10.17 16:11:00 -
[151]
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Sir Arland
Solaris RGD FEDERATION SOLARIS
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Posted - 2009.10.17 22:09:00 -
[152]
/signed
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.18 04:31:00 -
[153]
signed.... also holyshat about stolen char sale staying legit. ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
Space Vikings |
Wrhaistek Zhelocomeir
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Posted - 2009.10.18 06:30:00 -
[154]
/supported
A one week timer/cool down period which could be activated through account management.
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Vuoto
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Posted - 2009.10.18 16:36:00 -
[155]
sure!
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Kara Sharalien
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Posted - 2009.10.19 03:06:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 09/10/2009 05:13:23 YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACCOUNT SECURITY... NOT CCP.
Stop putting the burden on CCP to prevent you from doing stupid things.
you are a moron. if i could hand-code extra security measures in eve, i would.
but guess what genius, i dont have access to the source code, so the next best thing is asking CCP to do it for me.
how is asking for extra security measures NOT taking security into our own hands?
i support this idea, there is no harm in implementing it. the Luminare titan: lets pop that *****! http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1175042&page=1 |
Lachesis Moirae
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.19 05:34:00 -
[157]
Looks like a good change to me.
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Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
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Posted - 2009.10.19 11:13:00 -
[158]
/signed
CCp must be control any change in personal data ( email, name , account pay method ...) and game data ( character ...)
so before any change They should send an e-mail of confirmation with old good know email address or send a Or downright sent a mail by post with blocking of the account in case of change of personal coordinate (the accounts being non-transferable)
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Niatrang
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Posted - 2009.10.19 21:40:00 -
[159]
Supported and signed |
Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.21 04:31:00 -
[160]
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McFly
C0LDFIRE
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Posted - 2009.10.21 07:30:00 -
[161]
character security against hacks/keyloggers/etc like this would be a good idea imho.
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Jdrien Rag
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Posted - 2009.10.21 07:53:00 -
[162]
\signed
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.10.21 12:33:00 -
[163]
Edited by: T''Amber on 21/10/2009 12:37:21 Disregarding the story and the fact this probably happens rarely, having character transfers disabled by default and a timer is a great idea regardless. The time delay would be an issue if you wanted to sell a character asap, but it would stop the haxor from logging in a disabling this function straight away, and like stated earlier sometimes the DEVs cannot answer too quickly so 10days + would be a good idea. As I have traded characters quite a few times I think this wouldn't cause too much problems.The mention a couple of posts up about sending a confirmation email to the original owner of character (using the email adress supplied 28 days before the transfer was sanctioned to catch any email changed) with a link to confirm the sale; is also a good idea. The time spent making this function would pay off in DEV time and player grief later tenfold.
-T'amber
(Click!)
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Raeni Le'sex
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.10.21 17:19:00 -
[164]
I like the idea, and would even say that characters should be locked by default. So if you want to sell em you have to enable it. I would even say that you receive an email once this option is enabled, and the email has to be confirmed before the unlocking takes place. After it has been confirmed a one week period will commence.
There should also be an email adress field that you can specify that cant be immediately changed. It would take 2-3 days to change. This would give the victim some time to notify ccp and would also provide ccp with the necessary info to determine if the account was really stolen.
Account security is everyones responsibility, but you can only do so much to prevent **** from happening.
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Janos Vaas
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Posted - 2009.10.21 20:05:00 -
[165]
Brilliant.
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Speared
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Posted - 2009.10.21 23:10:00 -
[166]
Supported!
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Bomberlocks
Icarus Prime
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Posted - 2009.10.22 00:09:00 -
[167]
/Signed.
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Komachi
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.10.22 10:03:00 -
[168]
signed |
Lexa Darkk
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Posted - 2009.10.22 10:05:00 -
[169]
/signed
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Valerie Burn
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Posted - 2009.10.22 10:06:00 -
[170]
whats he said "/supported
A one week timer/cool down period which could be activated through account management." |
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cocotueur
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Posted - 2009.10.26 15:51:00 -
[171]
/signed
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Ted Ikari
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Posted - 2009.10.26 22:16:00 -
[172]
Signed !
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Turkoise
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Posted - 2009.10.29 09:42:00 -
[173]
/supported
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fariol
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:48:00 -
[174]
signed
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Max Butched
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Posted - 2009.10.29 16:21:00 -
[175]
/signed
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Onoairi
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Posted - 2009.10.29 16:58:00 -
[176]
/signed
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.10.30 09:07:00 -
[177]
Good idea. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |
Entipathy
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Posted - 2009.10.31 11:35:00 -
[178]
thumbs up.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives Beer and Smoke Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.31 19:30:00 -
[179]
ITT: Drake Draconis once again looks like a complete supercilious ****tard.
Supported.
? |
Sha'Sheer
Dark Sun Collective Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.11.01 12:58:00 -
[180]
I support this idea. do ni mo, ko ni mo, sora wa sora, hito wa hito. |
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Akilah Ashaki
The Wings of Maak
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Posted - 2009.11.04 09:01:00 -
[181]
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Shai 'Hulud
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.11.04 09:08:00 -
[182]
Something along these lines would make for a useful security measure. I would even suggest going so far as some sort of verification requirement to unlock characters (i.e. security questions, etc.).
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Shanxy
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Posted - 2009.11.05 04:18:00 -
[183]
Good idea
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Marxam
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Posted - 2009.11.07 23:53:00 -
[184]
Drake is a hacker that's why he doesn't support -_- i think it would be nice for ccp to do this because they should give more security for their character, it is not always within your power to prevent a hacking, sometimes there are ppl who are just rly good and committed at it so drake u r a fail.
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Theqwert125
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.11.08 08:42:00 -
[185]
Don't see why not
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2009.11.08 10:28:00 -
[186]
Would definitely support. Some kind of email (or even telephone) confirmation could also be very good.
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Simeon Whiteheaven
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Posted - 2009.11.08 12:29:00 -
[187]
This is excellent proposal, but I think that locking time should be longer, 2 weeks or even one month.
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Hibernator X
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Posted - 2009.11.08 17:13:00 -
[188]
Suuupooorteedddd!!
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Valentin
Les Guerriers Du Silence vae Victis .
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Posted - 2009.11.21 11:25:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Valentin on 21/11/2009 11:27:13 Good idea. _______________________________________________ =v= for =v=r |
Lusulpher
Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.23 06:10:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Shai 'Hulud Something along these lines would make for a useful security measure. I would even suggest going so far as some sort of verification requirement to unlock characters (i.e. security questions, etc.).
Right next to the Disband Alliance Vote option , am I right?!
7 |
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Isidorius
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:23:00 -
[191]
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Witcher
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Posted - 2009.11.26 12:58:00 -
[192]
signed +1
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Anita Blonde
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Posted - 2009.11.26 13:15:00 -
[193]
would be great if you could also choose lock period at will for example if you are certain that you will not be selling this character under no circumsances, then you could put like 1-2 monhts lock,
however if you just want some minor protection then only put a week
well it doesnt have to be a lock, but some additional layer of protectin, like an additional password maybe which should be stored somehwere safelly and be different from main password or some other means of verification
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lovely song
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Posted - 2009.11.26 13:16:00 -
[194]
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making future
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Posted - 2009.11.26 13:25:00 -
[195]
/signed
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Kralin Ignatov
Gallente The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2009.11.26 21:19:00 -
[196]
signed.
As someone who has also had their account hacked in the past, I can fully understand the need for personal security. Having such tools in place could ony prevent grief ______________________ There once was a killboard for BoB, then there was no BoB. - killboard.net |
Vire Amarr
Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.27 14:36:00 -
[197]
/support ____________________ CSM CANDIDATE >> Fight for your idears ! Vote Vire Amarr
Program >> Check it !
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Tagami Wasp
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.27 20:33:00 -
[198]
Option is good.
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Ivan Joukov
Soviet System
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Posted - 2009.12.01 13:21:00 -
[199]
/support
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bono herve
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Posted - 2009.12.01 15:58:00 -
[200]
I don't know why selling charaters is legal in EvE... other MMO don't permit it.
1 week and and Email or phone call is a good idea i think.
Very good topic and bad responses from CCP i think
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Baltazart
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Posted - 2009.12.01 16:29:00 -
[201]
/signed
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Z0D
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Posted - 2009.12.03 00:10:00 -
[202]
Any measure to throw sand in the cogs of ISK sellers and improving account security can count on my support.
I'll raise this for CSM meeting 2.
Wiki issue here. Click below for my manifesto.
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Kim Wilde
Covenant
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Posted - 2009.12.06 23:19:00 -
[203]
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Zin Leya
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Posted - 2009.12.07 13:14:00 -
[204]
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.07 16:49:00 -
[205]
Supported
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Galison
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Posted - 2009.12.09 04:17:00 -
[206]
I support this and would say take it one more step and take an idea from WOW/paypal. I'm talking about those little account authenticators I have one for my ebay/paypal thing and like the added security. Think I saw a friends one for WOW and looked the same so the company seems to have mmo experiance.
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2009.12.10 19:29:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Supported.
Security is the responsibility of the individual. Tools help though, and I see no harm from such options being available.
Any additional security that can get in the way of crackers is a good thing. I support this. I'd also support a WoW-esque optional keyfob system.
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Zahorite
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Posted - 2009.12.10 19:37:00 -
[208]
I'm fine with this as long as I'm understanding what is being proposed correctly. Basically that you can set an option to lock the transfer of your character. If you do want to transfer your character then you will have to take this option off and then wait for a one week timer to transfer the character.
The only possible issue I see with this is what if someone hacks your account and instead of stealing stuff just goes in and unchecks this option. Then in a week they can come back and transfer the character and steal everything. I highly doubt that anyone is going to check this option every week or change their password once a week. So I would propose that when this option is removed that it shows the timer on the UI until the one week timer is up. This way a player can tell if their account was hacked and the only indication was the removal of this option.
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Hugo Lordmagnus
Vexillari
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Posted - 2009.12.11 23:26:00 -
[209]
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Mcfarlen
Caldari Corax. New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.12 05:36:00 -
[210]
i can understand why it is legal to sell characters, we are all clones not really "home grown" beings so we are more like property. Come on now when you die you buy another copy of yourself...
But yes a safety measure to prevent people from stealing (guessing someones password isnt really hacking) someones accounts and then selling it and transferring the money is a good idea. I do think however selling characters is now apart of the economy, maybe not as well seen as ships and fittings but when you pay someone 8-100+ bil its going to make a difference someway.
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Montmazar
Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
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Posted - 2009.12.12 08:06:00 -
[211]
This is a no brainer.
Drake is, as always, an idiot.
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Ulair Memmet
ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2009.12.12 16:57:00 -
[212]
/signed
I never used Ctrl + Q and im PROUD OF IT |
Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.12.12 19:08:00 -
[213]
I agree with this idea.
It's not so much an issue of "your responsible if you get hacked", but it's also an issue of comfort. The idea that your character is locked out for a full week gives you time in case you are hacked gives peace of mind to the account holder if they are.
You may lose your assets in game (like people don't get their ships blown up every day), but at least you'll know that your character will still be there when you get your account back.
I would suggest that the unlocking of a character would be sent as an e-mail notification. And, possibly, be included in the general api information about a character so that those who don't check e-mail regularly, but check their skill progression regularly will notice the change and still be able to take action. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Kyra Felann
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Posted - 2010.03.10 07:57:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Kyra Felann on 10/03/2010 08:01:09 I absolutely 100% support this. I never ever intend to sell or otherwise transfer my character, so I'd like to have it locked to prevent transfers and require a lengthy, pain in the ass, week-long wait ordeal to unlock it (since I'll never do it, and I don't want anyone breaking into my account to be able to transfer my 2+ year character.
In fact, I'd like it if the timer were user-defined. I'd pick ten years or whatever the maximum is.
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Amberlyn Stardreamer
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Posted - 2010.03.10 10:47:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Frabba This is a pretty good idea. Expanding on it a bit, why not require an e-mail confirmation of all transfers. This removes EVE as the single point of compromise. This way, if someone wants to sell the character, they also need to have access to the e-mail account associated with the account. Expanding on this even further, this could be tied in with character termination. Just throwing some ideas out there but all in all I support anything that makes life less painful if an account has been compromised.
Yes. Well thought through addition to the OP's worthy proposal.
Security is our responsibility, but its hard to exercise that responsibility without some basic tools and email confirmation is about a basic as a security tool gets.
Email confirmation that a character has been locked/unlocked would work well too.
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Wu Jiaqiu
Frenemy and Foerend Co.
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Posted - 2010.03.10 11:33:00 -
[216]
Edited by: Wu Jiaqiu on 10/03/2010 11:32:37 Brilliant.
+1
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.03.10 11:49:00 -
[217]
Supported.
Despite any safety precaution, the probability of being hacked won't exactly go to zero dot zero. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Saitone
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Posted - 2010.03.10 13:50:00 -
[218]
I am an information security consultant in real life (out of pod). I work at a major IT consultancy firm in Scandinavia and I must say that there are MANY cases I have seen where it is beyond the control of an individual to protect their account from compromise.
CCP does *NOT* provide a version of EVE that runs on any platform that is even low assurance, as there are very few general purpose OSes available with any degree of assurance. Until such time as there are, I feel we should provide users what tools we can to protect them when (not if) their machines are compromised.
A delay timer, with notification that the acccount/character has been unlocked sent both in and out of game means it is FAR less likely that the attacker would be able to exploit the penetration of the account with the real holder unaware.
Support++; |
Mr Toril
Ashes of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.03.10 15:33:00 -
[219]
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Doccia Ellicis
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.10 17:44:00 -
[220]
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Enzu777
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Posted - 2010.03.10 18:12:00 -
[221]
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Kindra Blades
Cybernetic Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.11 02:16:00 -
[222]
Definitely
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usrevenge
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Posted - 2010.03.11 03:22:00 -
[223]
this would help CCP with the hacking issue probally.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.03.11 04:46:00 -
[224]
Supported, CCP should really beef up the security tools at the players hands considering the investments players are making in these characters.
It's not like you can just power level a wiped or sold character back to 80 mil SP. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.03.12 02:25:00 -
[225]
I strongly support this idea, and would totally use that feature.
/signed.
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Davader
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Posted - 2010.03.12 10:25:00 -
[226]
signed
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Krotfric McEnchroe
Medical Mechanical Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:43:00 -
[227]
Supported |
Redshirt I
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:55:00 -
[228]
I apologize if this has already been mentioned but I am not reading thru all these posts.
An out of game email should be sent to the account owner any time the account is logged into. This would give players better reaction time to their accounts being hacked.
Red |
Notorious BIG
Dies Irae Veniendum Est
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:56:00 -
[229]
/Signed |
Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2010.03.20 01:26:00 -
[230]
Drake = Idiot. Seriously, saying this is a bad idea without even explaining why? Of course he would.
/supported. |
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2010.03.20 13:21:00 -
[231]
Hell, as far as I'm concerned, characters are shouldn't be for sale at all. Maybe then I'd get to train all 3 characters on my account.
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.03.20 14:49:00 -
[232]
Supported. While I should be careful with my data, I also would like the tools that make it easier. I won't leave my comp without a firewall and antivirus as well, even though I take care in what threats my computer is exposed to.
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Miss President
SOLARIS ASTERIUS
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:36:00 -
[233]
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Carniflex
StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.03.21 19:28:00 -
[234]
This definately deserves support.
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Penny Pusher
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Posted - 2010.03.21 23:44:00 -
[235]
Supported, though I think the timer should be able to be set "ONCE" to a certain amount of days.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.03.22 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Frabba
Originally by: Mynxee I like the idea of being able to "lock" a character to prevent transfer or termination. At least it's one more obstacle. Details need sorted, but supported.
Originally by: Frabba ...why not require an e-mail confirmation of all transfers. ... if someone wants to sell the character, they also need to have access to the e-mail account associated with the account.
And although I like the idea of email confirmation as well, it is not a fail-safe. Someone who hacked or stole your login details could just log into the EVE-O site and change the email associated with the account, couldn't they?
One could expand on this design a fair bit. E-mail confirmation to old address confirming move to new address, adding a security question to be answered for e-mail address change, etc.
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.03.22 16:22:00 -
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/Supported.
Sounds like a good and valid option (=no one has to use it, but everyone may use it). -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Omega Flames
Last Resort Inn SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2010.03.23 01:04:00 -
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Xendrais
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Posted - 2010.03.23 18:49:00 -
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Supported
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Sophie Malaster
EuroMECH Tech Market ARTESANOS
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:21:00 -
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Fantastic! ________________________________________________
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.04.13 05:11:00 -
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We need this!
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Torum Froll
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Posted - 2010.04.15 17:52:00 -
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Confirming that this is a good idea and that Drake is the biggest piece of fail on these forums.
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Tiffany Jane
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Posted - 2010.04.16 03:14:00 -
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If it's an option for player discretion/informed choice, then it sounds all good to me.
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Strogen Mkok
University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:53:00 -
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Posting in support of a good idea.
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S'Rau
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Posted - 2010.05.05 23:15:00 -
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+1 for this idea Tessen. |
fogbird
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Posted - 2010.05.06 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Supported.
Security is the responsibility of the individual. Tools help though, and I see no harm from such options being available.
supported
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.06 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 06/05/2010 10:30:05 Yesterday i had to change e-mail adress, since i somehow managed to get a virus that stole all of my contacts in my mail, so now the old e-mail adress is being used by some spammers to send out spam mails with my e-mail adress, and then sends it out to all of my contacts.
But the thing i saw when i changed my e-mail to some sites that had my old e-mail adress was that when i changed the e-mail adress to the new one, then some of the sites sent out an e-mail to the old e-mail adress i had that my e-mail was changed to the new one.
And do you know why they do it?, yes, it's because of security. DING DING CCP, time to wake up on this.
And this is something i want to see here in EVE to.
And ofc that we can have the option to lock down the character for being used or being sold. Ofc, you need to have the option to choose how long time the character / accounts should be locked down. So if you know you wont have the chance to log into EVE for like 6 months, then you can just use the lockdown option and lock the character / account down for 6 months just to be sure nothing can happen to the accounts in the meantime.
Everything that makes the security better for our characters / accounts is always something i'm gonna support.
So this is 100% fully supported by me.
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domitesting
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Posted - 2010.05.06 11:10:00 -
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a simple but effective idea..
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Yllania
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Posted - 2010.05.28 07:38:00 -
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/Signed
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The Grouch
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.28 09:21:00 -
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Supported. How about a secondary password/question for account locks/transfers? Only accessable through account management. Just a thought.
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Neti Keire
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.05.28 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Supported.
Security is the responsibility of the individual. Tools help though, and I see no harm from such options being available.
Agreed.
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Tasty Morsel
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Posted - 2010.05.28 22:24:00 -
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Supported. I also think account management should use a different password than the game/forum login (I understand they are pretty much separate systems anyway and logging in to the forum doesn't automatically log you in to AM as it is) |
grant manson
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.08.23 20:47:00 -
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great idea
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Gecko O'Bac
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.23 21:36:00 -
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Supported. More security is always ok. If you want to sell your character 1 week is what you'll be aiming for the auction at the minimum anyway, so... I'm also open to other ideas, but the general intent is good and thus supported.
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Sebastian Baseesh
Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.24 14:43:00 -
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Sounds good.
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klyeme
Soft War Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:36:00 -
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E-mail confirmation + 1 week timer after e-mail confirmation just to be safe
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Glyken Touchon
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2010.08.24 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee
And although I like the idea of email confirmation as well, it is not a fail-safe. Someone who hacked or stole your login details could just log into the EVE-O site and change the email associated with the account, couldn't they?
But this should raise alarm bells at CCP- email change followed by character sale... stinks of a hack.
1 week timer sounds good.
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