Next time you login the game, read the title, it's not World of Warcraft, it's EvE Online. You probably missclick the icon on the desktop.

Cute, yy personal troll child is following me for the day.


How does any of the above reference wow or make things safer child ?


Tal

Next time you login the game, read the title, it's not World of Warcraft, it's EvE Online. You probably missclick the icon on the desktop.

hey look mother a troll can i keep it pwease?

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.

Hey look mother, a monkey, can i give him a banana?

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

Spoken like someone who hasn't even been to the existing NPC regions.

Don't insult, share with us these regions you speak of ?

Tal

Another theme park caracteristic, sense of entitlement.

I don't now, maybe Curse?

Is that it, just repeating same old stuff. awwwwww

Pats Vaju on head.

Tal

Maybe or truly. I remember curse there where a few stations not many though. Still have some **** in one of the player owned down there.

You are the one repeating the some old diarrhea over and over again.

Why don't you ask CCP to make all POS in hisec open to everyone while you are trolling.

Don't insult, share with us these regions you speak of ?

Tal

I don't now, maybe Curse?

Don't insult, share with us these regions you speak of ?

Tal

i know, why doesnt the OP petition for a personal Concord escort when he ventures out of high sec

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

I can't seem to see the insulting part.

On to regions, lets see... There's Venal, Great Wildlands, Outer Ring, Syndicate, Stain & probably a few more.

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

Just that ppl come on with short answers that usually claim the other person knows nothing without actual offering anything.

Tal

That's hardly insulting, unless you have an extremely fragile ego.

Curse is also NPC. You should try them out. NPC regions can be pretty fun & they're also rather empty, except for Syndicate.

Entire region of Curse - Serpentis and Angel Cartel
Entire region of Syndicate - Intaki Syndicate
Entire region of Stain - Sanshas Nation
Entire region of Venal - Guristas Pirates
Entire region of Outer Ring - ORE
Entire region of Great Wildlands - Thucker Tribe
Phoenix Constellation in Fountain - Serpentis and Angel Cartel
XPJ1-6 and 6-UCYU Constellations in Delve - Blood Raider Covenant
U-7RBK and 38G6-L in Pure Blind - Mordu's Legion and Sisters of Eve

All of the stations in these regions are open to anyone. They even have mission agents you can use.

All of them are sh*t to live in.

Theres even some in geminate too.

To the OP, the reason people assume you dont know anything is because you make terrible threads like these saying there isnt enough NPC stations proving you dont know anything...

There are at least 25 in curse at a very underestimated guess. Go actually look at NPC regions before saying there isnt enpugh.

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.

Don't insult, share with us these regions you speak of ?

Tal

Entire region of Curse - Serpentis and Angel Cartel
Entire region of Syndicate - Intaki Syndicate
Entire region of Stain - Sanshas Nation
Entire region of Venal - Guristas Pirates
Entire region of Outer Ring - ORE
Entire region of Great Wildlands - Thucker Tribe
Phoenix Constellation in Fountain - Serpentis and Angel Cartel
XPJ1-6 and 6-UCYU Constellations in Delve - Blood Raider Covenant
U-7RBK and 38G6-L in Pure Blind - Mordu's Legion and Sisters of Eve

All of the stations in these regions are open to anyone. They even have mission agents you can use.

All of them are sh*t to live in

Don't insult, share with us these regions you speak of ?

Tal

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

My milk shake brings all the trolls to the yard,
And there like,
Its better than yours,
Damn right its better than yours,

I can teach you,
But I have to charge

I know you want it,
The thing that makes me,
What the trolls go crazy for.
They lose their minds,
The way I wind,
I think its time


Tal

Clearly Secular Wisdom holds no common sense... but...

In my view, 0.0 would be much easier to immigrate to "IF" certain sov holding alliances and corps would stop being such donkey head wear about recruitment. Their bovine posterior discharges about membership requirements, and the way they treat "renter" corps, keeps the population numbers low. To be honest, all they really want is more targets....

Well, bright star, to be return customers requires earning ISK in high sec for ship replacements, for every "Winner" there is a "Loser" who must now replace their stuff. Eventually, if you keep dumping your load of compost on high sec dwellers they will go find another game to play and you will still be an adolescent with hormonal issues and no girlfriend.

Just saying

2 words for you OP.... **** cage, but then im sure you will come here posting remove bubbles.

Clearly Secular Wisdom holds no common sense... but...

In my view, 0.0 would be much easier to immigrate to "IF" certain sov holding alliances and corps would stop being such donkey head wear about recruitment. Their bovine posterior discharges about membership requirements, and the way they treat "renter" corps, keeps the population numbers low. To be honest, all they really want is more targets....

1) Limit corp size to 500 members.

2) Limit alliances to 5 corps max.

with intelligent mechanics to prevent "alt-corps" from helping out in battles and system guarding/buffer zone type tactics.

3) Limit system Sov to 1 system per corp with 2 bonus systems for maxing corps in an alliance (2 systems owned by the Alliance and no single corp) - all systems must be adjacent forming a cluster.

4) Make moons, belts, planets deplete fairly quickly and recover fairly slowly, over time, such that the owners MUST seek new sources of raw materials regularly or die of "Technetium starvation". Then make the recovery variable, such that what was once a technetium moon becomes something else upon recovery, thus randomly relocating/shuffling all resources.

Don't insult, share with us these regions you speak of ?

Tal

Give new players the option to start in NPC null to encourage a new breed of players never having been coddled by the entrapments of the myth of "high-sec."

Call it Hardcore Mode or something.

Let them start as a pirate faction, and give them some kind of faction noob ship.

Yes. Additionally, start them with extra SP and isk.

Give new players the option to start in NPC null to encourage a new breed of players never having been coddled by the entrapments of the myth of "high-sec."

Call it Hardcore Mode or something.

We are certainly in flame war territory.

I think the biggest impediment in null sec is that game mechanics allow the power blocks to hide behind their walls. There is no incentive to leave.

1) Limit corp size to 500 members.
2) Limit alliances to 5 corps max. with intelligent mechanics to prevent "alt-corps" from helping out in battles and system guarding/buffer zone type tactics.
3) Limit system Sov to 1 system per corp with 2 bonus systems for maxing corps in an alliance (2 systems owned by the Alliance and no single corp) - all systems must be adjacent forming a cluster.
4) Make moons, belts, planets deplete fairly quickly and recover fairly slowly, over time, such that the owners MUST seek new sources of raw materials regularly or die of "Technetium starvation". Then make the recovery variable, such that what was once a technetium moon becomes something else upon recovery, thus randomly relocating/shuffling all resources.
5) Then allow Sov in Lo sec so as many wimpy corps as possible can have a shot at system ownership.
6) Let the Powerblocks fight over all the cool resources ad infinitum with slowly replenishing resources available once is a while in their Sov systems.

I accept the flames as I'm sure forum warriors will shoot plenty of holes in these ideas. So I'll start the flames myself by pointing out that alt-corps can now easily act as helpers in many ways without Alliance/corp affiliation.

My real point is not any specific set of ideas, rather that things will not change until there are game mechanics that limit the size of any one entity, and give potent incentives to seek out and fight for juicy null sec resources. In fact, all out siege warfare would become a viable tactic if corps/alliances were limited to 7 or less adjacent systems. These basic concepts would allow for a much more dynamic null sec and accommodate regular transitions of power - assuming adequate game-mechanics are worked out.

The idea of POCO ownership was a nice try. But in the systems I travel and do business, I only see the same corps owning the same POCOs ever since they torched the InterBus COs and replaced with their own. No real long term stirring up of the PvP game that I can see. By all means, correct me if what I see in my patch of sky does not reflect reality. I believe something much more profound must happen if things are going to change and wide spread conflict is to be induced.

I do applaud the Goons. Burn Jita was brilliant. The scary thing is that The Mittani said that next time, there will be no warning. This is epic. This is the spirit of EvE. This is stepping out from the protection of their borders with guns blazing. However, they can afford this level of destruction exactly BECAUSE they are allowed to hoard celestial resources in (essentially) protected space while building an enormous empire.

I doubt anything will change any time soon, if ever.

Asking for 0.0 to be improved by CCP is like asking for hi sec to be made safe by CCP.

0.0 is player made content.

Stop making sh!t content and people will flock to there.


Here's the mirror to "solitary carebears unite and go kick CFC off nullsec or GTFO":

"Null seccers since you are blued to the ass anyway, make a pact to create a player enforced 0.0 "hi sec" zone where to create a "0.0 Jita". Allow casual players to freely come and go in some systems you won't use anyway.

Then you might finally begin seeing somebody bothering leaving the comfortable, "everything handy, I can play 30 minutes a day" hi sec.

Let them start as a pirate faction, and give them some kind of faction noob ship.

Give new players the option to start in NPC null to encourage a new breed of players never having been coddled by the entrapments of the myth of "high-sec."

Call it Hardcore Mode or something.

This is the best idea ever

Imagine starting in an NPC corp that had only players actually interested in the game EVE Online, sharing combat tips, fits and roaming together.

instead of starting with mentally challenged elders grinding the same 4 missions mutely with their 14 botting accounts since 2004, only occasionally dropping in the starter corp chat to bad advice.

Promote growth. how about we start we the idiots that promote back stabbing and scamming when they head into 0.0 this should help eleviate part of the problem

Give new players the option to start in NPC null to encourage a new breed of players never having been coddled by the entrapments of the myth of "high-sec."

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

To increase nullsec growth...

1. Remove local
2. Remove free intel about who is hitting what
3. Remove free intel about towers going up
4. Make sov structures use fuel and make sov bills increase close to exponentially
5. Did I mention remove local?

Give new players the option to start in NPC null to encourage a new breed of players never having been coddled by the entrapments of the myth of "high-sec."

Call it Hardcore Mode or something.

To increase nullsec growth...

1. Remove local
2. Remove free intel about who is hitting what
3. Remove free intel about towers going up
4. Make sov structures use fuel and make sov bills increase close to exponentially
5. Did I mention remove local?

Sit down, young capsuleer, and let me tell you a tale of olde, about the most pure and devout of all alliances who roamed the dark skies of Providence just beneath the guiding light of Amarr homeworlds...

They did not have a 0.0 Jita, much less a 0.0 Jita that would be negotiated as "no killing zone" (within constraints of course) between major alliance.

You all should check CCP's Nullsec design goals dev blog again. They got already lots of stuff on their roadmap and I think many of the coming changes will indeed pull more players to nullsec...

And how would this "increase nullsec growth"?

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.


Tal

Dumbest thread ever but I'll bite.

How about Concord randomly opens jump gates that would let HSCB's (Hisec carebears) enter a sem-protected system in null-sec.

This could happen on a weekly basis and it would be broadcast by Concord.

The end system of course would have a 5 AU protection (no players under a certain sec status allowed) bubble to allow HSCB's to roam outside of that bubble in a random direction so they could be hunted, but also kill rats/scan grav sites, mine, etc.

This might bring wars, ganking, pirating, adventuring, etc to a whole new level.

This is so terrible. Anybody who posts something like this should honestly feel bad. How about we turn it around?

Once a week, a pirate faction opens a gate into high-sec. On the other end we'll put a 5AU bubble where CONCORD cannot spawn. Anyone lucky enough to warp in gets a sample of what null-sec is like. Anybody trying to pew pew outside the bubble will still be subject to CONCORD, though.

Do you see how terribly intrusive and unnatural this idea is when we turn it around? Do you want your home to be the venue for NPC guided tours of Eve?

That sounds pretty good actually.

The bubble will of course prevent them from warping out, right?

Remove sovereignty, seed more NPC stations through out all 0.0 regions, open up 0.0 stations to all who want too visit.

Tal

Dumbest thread ever but I'll bite.

How about Concord randomly opens jump gates that would let HSCB's (Hisec carebears) enter a sem-protected system in null-sec.

This could happen on a weekly basis and it would be broadcast by Concord.

The end system of course would have a 5 AU protection (no players under a certain sec status allowed) bubble to allow HSCB's to roam outside of that bubble in a random direction so they could be hunted, but also kill rats/scan grav sites, mine, etc.

This might bring wars, ganking, pirating, adventuring, etc to a whole new level.

So your idea to bring players to null-sec is to have NPCs do HSCB guided tours of null-sec?

Because players aren't more compelling than coded responses after all?

This is so terrible. Anybody who posts something like this should honestly feel bad. How about we turn it around?

Once a week, a pirate faction opens a gate into high-sec. On the other end we'll put a 5AU bubble where CONCORD cannot spawn. Anyone lucky enough to warp in gets a sample of what null-sec is like. Anybody trying to pew pew outside the bubble will still be subject to CONCORD, though.

Do you see how terribly intrusive and unnatural this idea is when we turn it around? Do you want your home to be the venue for NPC guided tours of Eve?

OMG, the stupid, it has gone over 9000 with this post alone.

That's for 2050 and probably full of bugs, most of actual players will "probably" not even be there any more

Yes, and you bring so much more to the table. Obvious troll is obvious.

Well, simply because then you are part of the everyday nullsec political bullcrap where you either log into one of the daily CTA fleets or you get kicked out for not doing your part.

Limit bubbles in NPC space. That would be interesting.

Sigh. It's like people can't fathom this. I'll say it very, very slowly so maybe people'll understand:

FUEL COSTS
WILL NOT
LIMIT
FORCE PROJECTION.

That is all.

This would also make it impossible to fund the defensive enforcement of OTEC-like cartels.