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Nehemiah Scudder	Posted - 2009.10.23 22:10:00 - [1] I regularly run L4 missions at hi sec quest hubs. I like to come back and loot/salvage in a Salvacane. It seems that the ninjas are finding me before I finish missions. I will come back to the first room and find them near done with it. I am planning on moving up to a Tengu mission runner. Is this going to make it much harder to probe me so that I won't see most of my mission salvage go to someone else?
Capt Fossil Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.23 22:21:00 - [2] Do like I am doing...train a couple of Smartbombing BS alt's. Soon I'll be praying for Ninja's.
FISHANDCHIPS	Posted - 2009.10.23 22:31:00 - [3] quest hubs are that way back in wow this is eve its called mission hubs you wont survive long if you dont speak the lingo
Captain o'Industry	Posted - 2009.10.23 23:25:00 - [4] Get a Marauder and you won't have any more problems with ninjas. ;)
Zach 101	Posted - 2009.10.23 23:27:00 - [5] Originally by: Captain o'Industry Get a Marauder and you won't have any more problems with ninjas. ;) oh the crule crule reality XD
Solomar Espersei Caldari Durer la Legion	Posted - 2009.10.23 23:40:00 - [6] It's really simple, just go someplace off the beaten trail rather than the most popular system in a region. If you're missioning in a system that is heavily populated, well, Ninjas can see that and that's where you'll find us making our ISK. There are many other options rather than the old "I'll just clean these rooms out and then go backà". You're just making it too easy. Salvage as you go, mission with a corp-mate, get a Marauder, etc. Another option, and one that's the path of least resistance, simply ignore us and try to grind out more missions. Seriously, if I were in to mission running, I wouldn't even bother salvaging the crap missions (Gurista, Drones, and Mission Generics). Just grab the loot from the Large ships, get it over with and move on. Time is money. BTW, the mission salvage isn't yours. It's whoever gets to it first and that makes for a fun, competitive dynamic pitting you against those pesky dudes with their probes and scan ships. I've seen enough MRs toying with the bad guys to realize that in most cases, the bigger challenge is avoiding those dudes in the cheap frigates zipping around than the actual NPCs, who you're so tanked up against that they hardly get into your shields.
Lt Forge Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.10.24 01:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Solomar Espersei It's really simple, just go someplace off the beaten trail rather than the most popular system in a region. If you're missioning in a system that is heavily populated, well, Ninjas can see that and that's where you'll find us making our ISK. There are many other options rather than the old "I'll just clean these rooms out and then go backà". You're just making it too easy. Salvage as you go, mission with a corp-mate, get a Marauder, etc. Another option, and one that's the path of least resistance, simply ignore us and try to grind out more missions. Seriously, if I were in to mission running, I wouldn't even bother salvaging the crap missions (Gurista, Drones, and Mission Generics). Just grab the loot from the Large ships, get it over with and move on. Time is money. BTW, the mission salvage isn't yours. It's whoever gets to it first and that makes for a fun, competitive dynamic pitting you against those pesky dudes with their probes and scan ships. I've seen enough MRs toying with the bad guys to realize that in most cases, the bigger challenge is avoiding those dudes in the cheap frigates zipping around than the actual NPCs, who you're so tanked up against that they hardly get into your shields. I hate it when they don't use paragraphs. Major tip numbnuts: Don't do missions in missionhubs. Try a different spot. You don't have to use a L4-Q:20 agent per se, you can also try a L4-Q:15 that's a few clicks away, in a very, vTry quiet system. _____________
Cikness	Posted - 2009.10.24 01:26:00 - [8] Does anyone know the answer to the question? If he uses a T3, will it be harder for the Ninjas to loot the wrecks of ships he killed?
Patri Andari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer	Posted - 2009.10.24 02:18:00 - [9] Wats a "Quest Hub?" Patri A fool usually thinks he is a genius
Srialia Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.10.24 03:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Capt Fossil Do like I am doing...train a couple of Smartbombing BS alt's. Soon I'll be praying for Ninja's. Gratuitous use of apostrophes: Minus 10 points. Also, please don't suicide my unrigged, T1 salvage frigate with multiple battleships. I wouldn't use the salvage from exactly one wreck to offset the cost, nor would I get great amounts of pleasure from seeing you throw away a thousand times as much ISK as I had lost just to waste 5 minutes of my time. Anything but that. Keep coming up with ideas though, you'll show those durned ninjas a thang or two eventually.

Vigo Larcen Dark Claw Raiders	Posted - 2009.10.24 04:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Capt Fossil Do like I am doing...train a couple of Smartbombing BS alt's. Soon I'll be praying for Ninja's. Don't worry. Ninjas will be praying for you as well.
Dracthera Minmatar	Posted - 2009.10.24 05:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Cikness Does anyone know the answer to the question? If he uses a T3, will it be harder for the Ninjas to loot the wrecks of ships he killed? Yes, you can reduce the chance of being probed if you're using a T3. Just a matter or raising your sensor strength and keeping your sig radius low. The ratio of those two determines how fast someone can scan you down. There are some 'unprobable' fittings floating around on Battleclinic and elsewhere. Apto Quod Ususfructus
v00d003	Posted - 2009.10.24 05:18:00 - [13] I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old!
Mia Mienze	Posted - 2009.10.24 08:40:00 - [14] I think there are enough large BS's stacked on top of each other in mission hubs that salvagers don't have to waste that extra scan time locking down a cruiser size ship. But, that being said what's going to stop him from scanning down your Tengu when you're in system just to make you cry into your cheerios. Also, why do you call them Ninjas? If they were, all you would see was the wreck suddenly turning into a can. They're just pilots that happen to be salvaging. So what.
Babel Boom and Bust Economics Ltd. Naraka.	Posted - 2009.10.24 10:11:00 - [15] Originally by: v00d003 I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old! I think you'll find in this case that the ninja guy is laughing at you just as hard as you're laughing at him :) . "Out of the good of evil born, Came Uriel's voice of cherub scorn"
clixor	Posted - 2009.10.24 10:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Dracthera Originally by: Cikness Does anyone know the answer to the question? If he uses a T3, will it be harder for the Ninjas to loot the wrecks of ships he killed? Yes, you can reduce the chance of being probed if you're using a T3. Just a matter or raising your sensor strength and keeping your sig radius low. The ratio of those two determines how fast someone can scan you down. There are some 'unprobable' fittings floating around on Battleclinic and elsewhere. I wouldnt bother with sensor boosters. It screws up your mission efficiency and T3 ships are hard to find as it is (for the avarage ninja). Concerning Ninja's, i dont care if someone drops into my mission. (last time it was just before aggro started from the whole assault room, it was kinda fun warping out at just that moment :)). On the other hand, there seems to be a trend of ninja's stealing and can-flipping also.
Tyslas	Posted - 2009.10.24 11:43:00 - [17] Why would you avoid ninjas? Ninjas are awesome. They clean up after you and make great conversation. I <3 ninjas, I even made one of them my pet.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.10.24 12:08:00 - [18] 1. Avoid mission hubs. 2. Don't fly a BS — they're very easy to scan down. 3. Definitely don't fly a Marauder — they're hillariously easy to scan down, and you're just screaming "mission runner". 4. Salvage as you go. You don't particularly need a T3 ship to avoid getting scanned — just something that's smaller/stronger than a battleship, and the ninjas are more likely to go after those 100% hits they get on the first try than wasting time finding your 30% hit. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Eelis Kiy Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2009.10.24 12:21:00 - [19] Do some research, look for other lvl 4 agents in quieter systems. You might be forced to do the occasional courier/delivery if your agent division type changes but its worth it for a bit of peace and quiet. Maurader is also a decent enough option, you can salvage as you go and its pretty quick to clear the whole mission but skill intensive and expensive ship.
Maddock Krug	Posted - 2009.10.24 12:55:00 - [20] Edited by: Maddock Krug on 24/10/2009 12:55:58 Hi. About your main question: Raven - Signature Radius 460m and Scan Resolution 85mm Golem - Signature Radius 575 and Scan Resolution 73mm Tengu - no numbers available; but if the values of the Legion give an orientation about it => 1/3 of the Raven's Signature Radius and thrice the Scan Resolution of the Raven's; and I think it is quite unlikely that even the worst Tengu setup gets anywhere the the Raven or a BS's values about that. (I took the data from the official EvE Online item database ...) Bottomline: The Tengu makes you a very unlikely prey for mission salvagers, as you won't be scanned down so easily - for now. ;) Also try Episode #5 of the Missions Collide podcast; on this show the moderators deal with this topic and give a couple of more guesses about how to deal with "us" evil ninja salvagers. ^^ Enjoy! Mad

Zartanic Red Federation	Posted - 2009.10.24 13:07:00 - [21] I've not had a ninja turn up once. Ironically I can't be bothered to loot or salvage some of the time so it would not bother me if they did turn up. Just stop going to the obvious places and picking the obvious corps, there are good agents outside those hubs.
Yalezorn Gallente	Posted - 2009.10.24 13:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Tippia 3. Definitely don't fly a Marauder ù they're hillariously easy to scan down, and you're just screaming "mission runner". Who cares if it's easy to scan down? Marauders loot and salvage as they go, so you're still not getting anything. Can't say if it's luck or the morons over in TEARS are just incompetent, but I've been doing missions out of Aunia (2 jumps from Dodixie) for months and not once had any loot stolen or lost any salvage opportunities. It's actually a little depressing, even taunting them in Local doesn't get me anywhere, I'd love some actual competition.
Boomershoot Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.10.24 14:37:00 - [23] I, for one, can scan T1 small drones pretty easily without wasting much time. A bell rings when i see a smaller scan strenght than usual Bs or Marauders. Switching to a Tengu will only make you a brighter prey, since there aren't many of them running around doing missions (unlike bses and marauders). You should just change the place where you run missions, a smaller ship won't help you at all :P ________________________________________ i'd gladly abuse [hr] if CCP implemented it ________________________________________
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.10.24 15:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Yalezorn Who cares if it's easy to scan down? Marauders loot and salvage as they go, so you're still not getting anything. The OP, apparently, since that's what he was asking about. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.10.24 16:10:00 - [25] Marauders are -decent- against ninjas. Ninjas looking for profit will tend to ignore you, as will newer ninjas. However, more experienced ninjas love to fly into your mission, orbit you and snag loot/salvage out of the wrecks. Tengu would help, especially if you could run ECCM or use a sig reduction/sensor strength boosting subsystem.
Dacryphile	Posted - 2009.10.24 18:09:00 - [26] Battleships are the only thing in my ninja filter. I know there are marauders and BCs doing plenty of L4s too, but I'd have to compete with marauders for the good salvage, and the BCs simply don't kill fast enough. To the OP, you have a few options: 1) A T3 will probably result in less ninjas since a ninja will probe out bigger ships easier. 2) If you don't want to be ninja'ed, get out of a mission hub. That is where all the ninjas are. 3) Don't get so worked up about it. I missioned in motsu for a months, and during that time I only got ninja'ed 3 or 4 times.
v00d003	Posted - 2009.10.24 18:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Babel Originally by: v00d003 I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old! I think you'll find in this case that the ninja guy is laughing at you just as hard as you're laughing at him :) Ahhhh no...... They always convoy me, and ***** about how the wreck is just as much theirs as it is mine lol. Then they use all kinds of noob tactics to get me to engage them, but I just keep shooting wrecks and taste even more tears...yummy
Dacryphile	Posted - 2009.10.24 23:44:00 - [28] Originally by: v00d003 Originally by: Babel Originally by: v00d003 I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old! I think you'll find in this case that the ninja guy is laughing at you just as hard as you're laughing at him :) Ahhhh no...... They always convoy me, and *** about how the wreck is just as much theirs as it is mine lol. Then they use all kinds of noob tactics to get me to engage them, but I just keep shooting wrecks and taste even more tears...yummy Always? To *** about the wrecks? It doesn't sound like any ninja I've ever encountered. I have a feeling you are making this up trying to pretend you can extract tears out of ninjas.
Schwa88 Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.10.25 01:15:00 - [29] Originally by: v00d003 Originally by: Babel Originally by: v00d003 I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old! I think you'll find in this case that the ninja guy is laughing at you just as hard as you're laughing at him :) Ahhhh no...... They always convoy me, and ***** about how the wreck is just as much theirs as it is mine lol. Then they use all kinds of noob tactics to get me to engage them, but I just keep shooting wrecks and taste even more tears...yummy Haha sure buddy, keep running missions until an experienced ninja finds you. You pop wrecks, you waste ammo. When people pop wrecks on me, I get their hull id and ship type. Let's just say that they don't make any more on salvage while I'm online. Make sure it's in a CNR, those are good against ninjas, and faction mods are sure to show us.
Domoso	Posted - 2009.10.25 02:22:00 - [30] To the OP. Good suggestions have been made. Practice those. Aside from that, ignore the "don't use BS" comments. Whether you're in a marauder, BS, BC, cruiser, frigate or just left your drones behind while you rep, your mission site is easily identified.

Cpt Steo	Posted - 2009.10.25 02:44:00 - [31] Simple way to avoid ninja's, is to use your ship scanner, set distance to 600000000 and deselect use active overview settings on ship scanner, and scan every few minutes. Things to watch for, Combat scanner probes of course :) Plus scroll down and check for sister combat scanner probes also. Once you pick up some probes on scanner warp out...I havEnt had a ninja in my missions in months using this method
Tyyfyr	Posted - 2009.10.25 02:54:00 - [32] the whole 'ninja' (stupid name for bored people it seems, but nevermind) issue isnt even worth the time needed to type this stuff. ive had guests TWICE (!) in a system with average local around 100 (!) and BOTH of them ignored the wrecks after simple words: "everything Yours'. pffft. its probably becouse i can count, ie: time needed to gather/salvage = time of another mission (assuming not-marauder). with t2 bs problem is literally gone. so that leaves us with tons of whining people that either: 1 cant add 2 & 2 2 waste 1-1,5h on simple mission couse of being underskilled but once again ill say: every player waisting time on such stupid activity like stealing wrecks/playing 0.1 isk games etc should get a life. really.
v00d003	Posted - 2009.10.25 04:38:00 - [33] Originally by: Schwa88 Originally by: v00d003 Originally by: Babel Originally by: v00d003 I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old! I think you'll find in this case that the ninja guy is laughing at you just as hard as you're laughing at him :) Ahhhh no...... They always convoy me, and ***** about how the wreck is just as much theirs as it is mine lol. Then they use all kinds of noob tactics to get me to engage them, but I just keep shooting wrecks and taste even more tears...yummy Haha sure buddy, keep running missions until an experienced ninja finds you. You pop wrecks, you waste ammo. When people pop wrecks on me, I get their hull id and ship type. Let's just say that they don't make any more on salvage while I'm online. Make sure it's in a CNR, those are good against ninjas, and faction mods are sure to show us. Easy there fella you seem like your about to cry here's a tissue. Back on topic. Yeah those tards do get quite upset whenever I ruin their fun, but hey its all part of the game right? I really don't need the isk from the wreck so destroying them is of no consequence to me. Any time you get hold of my license plate please feel free to look me up, I'll be the one blowing up wrecks and scooping up ninja tears
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.10.25 06:15:00 - [34]
Maddock Krug	Posted - 2009.10.25 07:49:00 - [35] Ah, nice. It's all about competition, you know. And as you may play different games with the same one ball (or two), you may also compete very differently on missions - either from the point of the mission runner or from the point of the ninja. Just happen to care about what CCP Prism X says about it here. I just wonder: where are the cheerleaders? Am starting to enjoy this thread, although we get heavily OT; but the original question about the Tengu was answered already, wasn't it? Greetings Mad
Dani Leone Gallente How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb	Posted - 2009.10.25 10:27:00 - [36] Edited by: Dani Leone on 25/10/2009 10:30:47 Edited by: Dani Leone on 25/10/2009 10:30:17 I don't know why people hate on the ninjas. Salvaging your own missions is about as exciting as ice mining. Isn't it way more fun when you suddenly have to compete to get those goodies? And also, you can simply leave the salvage to the ninja and move on to the next mission, grabbing lots of bounties and LP along the way. In fact I see them as helping me help my self by not feeling I have to salvage every last wreck, including the one 98km away from every other one, wasting my own time in the process. *Edit Why dont you make an arrangement with the ninjas, they pay you a fee, say 25% of what they expect to make from salvaging an L4 mission, and you simply invite them to fleet when you get started on an l4, this way, you both win!
Carrigg Caldari Blind Panik Elysium.	Posted - 2009.10.25 10:37:00 - [37] I dont like theem popping up in my pocket, but I rarely salvage. It would be nice if they just ask, they might be surprized
Solomar Espersei Caldari Durer la Legion	Posted - 2009.10.25 13:55:00 - [38] Real ninjas don't ask. Just like we don't ask to undock, fit a mod, jump a warp gate, etc. We just do it. Asking permission implies ownership when in fact, no one owns those wrecks. Shooting wrecks is fun, that makes it easier for us to decide where to fly next. Go for the ones with the loot. It's not like we don't have 3 or 4 other missions bookmarked that we can run over to after the 5 minute LOL of watching Carebear Butt Hurt/Man Rage explode all over their own mission. Priceless. @ the OP, Congrats on your wise move toward the Tengu. It will make it more difficult for us to find you, but you won't be immune to Kahega, Maddock, and others who have been at it for a while. Wolves feed on the weak, sickly, and in this case, uniformed or ill-prepared.
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.25 16:39:00 - [39] Edited by: Hyveres on 25/10/2009 16:39:53 Go ganktank and blitz for LP , salvage is not worth the isk/hour anyway Caring about ninja's just shows you are not doing mission for the maximum level of income per hour. "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound
Tyyfyr	Posted - 2009.10.25 17:21:00 - [40] Originally by: Solomar Espersei Real ninjas don't ask. Just like we don't ask to undock, fit a mod, jump a warp gate, etc. We just do it. Asking permission implies ownership when in fact, no one owns those wrecks. Shooting wrecks is fun, that makes it easier for us to decide where to fly next. Go for the ones with the loot. It's not like we don't have 3 or 4 other missions bookmarked that we can run over to after the 5 minute LOL of watching Carebear Butt Hurt/Man Rage explode all over their own mission. Priceless. @ the OP, Congrats on your wise move toward the Tengu. It will make it more difficult for us to find you, but you won't be immune to Kahega, Maddock, and others who have been at it for a while. Wolves feed on the weak, sickly, and in this case, uniformed or ill-prepared. can i pretend im important too ?

Maddock Krug	Posted - 2009.10.25 20:52:00 - [41] Originally by: Solomar Espersei Congrats on your wise move toward the Tengu. It will make it more difficult for us to find you, but you won't be immune to Kahega, Maddock, and others who have been at it for a while. Wolves feed on the weak, sickly, and in this case, uniformed or ill-prepared. Originally by: Tyyfyr can i pretend im important too ? Feels pretty good for me to be mentioned in your league. An honour and pleasure for me! Fly reckless and enjoy! Mad
Tyyfyr	Posted - 2009.10.25 23:02:00 - [42] Edited by: Tyyfyr on 25/10/2009 23:03:02 Edited by: Tyyfyr on 25/10/2009 23:02:30 mad****, kanega, w/e ur name is it doesnt change the simple fact. ure unimportant dude who thinks stealing 'pixels' makes u awesome, couse other people cry and write about it (typing stuff equally dumb as urs) get a life and do something worthy, then, maybe, ill bother to read ur nick. now get lost from here, ur wrecks are becoming cold (lol). before u accuse me of being angry missionrunner (:o) bother to scroll.
Xetal Maelstrom	Posted - 2009.10.25 23:29:00 - [43] Quote: mad****, kanega, w/e ur name is it doesnt change the simple fact. ure unimportant dude who thinks stealing 'pixels' makes u awesome, couse other people cry and write about it (typing stuff equally dumb as urs) get a life and do something worthy, then, maybe, ill bother to read ur nick. now get lost from here, ur wrecks are becoming cold (lol). before u accuse me of being angry missionrunner (:o) bother to scroll. You just blew up and podded English.
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.10.25 23:54:00 - [44] Quote: mad****, kanega, w/e ur name is it doesnt change the simple fact. ure unimportant dude who thinks stealing 'pixels' makes u awesome, couse other people cry and write about it (typing stuff equally dumb as urs) get a life and do something worthy, then, maybe, ill bother to read ur nick. now get lost from here, ur wrecks are becoming cold (lol). before u accuse me of being angry missionrunner (:o) bother to scroll. Linkage
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2009.10.26 00:42:00 - [45] Originally by: Patri Andari Wats a "Quest Hub?" it's where johnny hangs out between episodes.
gnome chaos	Posted - 2009.10.26 02:29:00 - [46] Edited by: gnome chaos on 26/10/2009 02:34:34 Just do it like the pros; fit a ship for pvp that can accidentally do your lvl4's. You'll get fights, remember to bring buddies, like everyone else. Most of the time, you get to instapop morons. What's not to like? Edit: I see ninjas a serious PVP-urge-relief. alt is for money, ninjas are just a nice way of making me undock. Look at all the red blinkys!!!
Dacryphile	Posted - 2009.10.26 03:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Tyyfyr Edited by: Tyyfyr on 25/10/2009 23:03:02 Edited by: Tyyfyr on 25/10/2009 23:02:30 mad****, kanega, w/e ur name is it doesnt change the simple fact. ure unimportant dude who thinks stealing 'pixels' makes u awesome, couse other people cry and write about it (typing stuff equally dumb as urs) get a life and do something worthy, then, maybe, ill bother to read ur nick. now get lost from here, ur wrecks are becoming cold (lol). before u accuse me of being angry missionrunner (:o) bother to scroll. Keep posting like this. Its what keeps us ninjaing.
Sentinel Borg	Posted - 2009.10.26 10:38:00 - [48] It's really strange, I'm doing missions in a Navy Apoc and a Dominix (other char) in Dodixie and Auvergne and I had like one ninja in the last 100 missions. So where are they?
Ayssith D'ark	Posted - 2009.10.26 11:10:00 - [49] Edited by: Ayssith D''ark on 26/10/2009 11:11:53 Originally by: Tyyfyr Edited by: Tyyfyr on 25/10/2009 23:03:02 Edited by: Tyyfyr on 25/10/2009 23:02:30 mad****, kanega, w/e ur name is it doesnt change the simple fact. ure unimportant dude who thinks stealing 'pixels' makes u awesome, couse other people cry and write about it (typing stuff equally dumb as urs) get a life and do something worthy, then, maybe, ill bother to read ur nick. now get lost from here, ur wrecks are becoming cold (lol). before u accuse me of being angry missionrunner (:o) bother to scroll. Rage much? It's not that I think I'm awesome, it's that I can scan down and salvage a site in 5-10min. If I loot as well, which I usually do as most of you guys are far too scared of loosing you're billion isk ship to my mighty imicus, then I can make 20mil in almost no time at all. Where as if I were to run my own missions it'd take longer, also, I don't want to do highsec missions as they're dull :P I hear there aren't any ninja salvagers in venal, you should go there. edit: Oooo, I do like it when missions runners pop wrecks and then pop the mission objective by mistake. That's made me chuckle more than once
Aurorae Andromedae	Posted - 2009.10.26 11:19:00 - [50] Originally by: Tippia 1. Avoid mission hubs. 2. Don't fly a BS ù they're very easy to scan down. 3. Definitely don't fly a Marauder ù they're hillariously easy to scan down, and you're just screaming "mission runner". 4. Salvage as you go. You don't particularly need a T3 ship to avoid getting scanned ù just something that's smaller/stronger than a battleship, and the ninjas are more likely to go after those 100% hits they get on the first try than wasting time finding your 30% hit. Difference between ship without salvage rigs and dedicated salvaging ship with rigs and implants is massive ISK wise... And yes, avoid mission hubs. Drop quality few units and you probably have nice quite system wich is enough far away from lazy ninjas

Riedle Minmatar Raptus Regalitor	Posted - 2009.10.26 11:53:00 - [51] Originally by: Capt Fossil Do like I am doing...train a couple of Smartbombing BS alt's. Soon I'll be praying for Ninja's. FAIL
Ayssith D'ark	Posted - 2009.10.26 12:05:00 - [52] Originally by: Riedle Originally by: Capt Fossil Do like I am doing...train a couple of Smartbombing BS alt's. Soon I'll be praying for Ninja's. FAIL Don't tell him, I want to see his face when his large smartbombs don't work on my small sig or better still he pops one of the bs's or concorde show up and I can loots his wreck :P
Elldranga	Posted - 2009.10.26 13:50:00 - [53] Originally by: Ayssith D'ark Originally by: Riedle Originally by: Capt Fossil Do like I am doing...train a couple of Smartbombing BS alt's. Soon I'll be praying for Ninja's. FAIL Don't tell him, I want to see his face when his large smartbombs don't work on my small sig or better still he pops one of the bs's or concorde show up and I can loots his wreck :P I suspect the Epic Fail here is... wait for it... the fact that YOU didn't see a troll
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2009.10.26 15:29:00 - [54] Edited by: Hyveres on 26/10/2009 15:34:23 Originally by: Schwa88 Originally by: v00d003 Originally by: Babel Originally by: v00d003 I love it when a ninja enters my room. I let the idiot get close to a wreck then I destroy it. Its quite amusing to watch the tard go way out of his way only to have it destroyed over and over. Yeah I know I don't to salvage the wreck but he doesn't either. I've tasted so many ninja tears doing this,and it never gets old! I think you'll find in this case that the ninja guy is laughing at you just as hard as you're laughing at him :) Ahhhh no...... They always convoy me, and ***** about how the wreck is just as much theirs as it is mine lol. Then they use all kinds of noob tactics to get me to engage them, but I just keep shooting wrecks and taste even more tears...yummy Haha sure buddy, keep running missions until an experienced ninja finds you. You pop wrecks, you waste ammo. When people pop wrecks on me, I get their hull id and ship type. Let's just say that they don't make any more on salvage while I'm online. Make sure it's in a CNR, those are good against ninjas, and faction mods are sure to show us. Explain to me , how exactly is shooting wrecks using lasers is wasting ammo? "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound
Liteshow Caldari The Leather Knights Aegis Militia	Posted - 2009.10.26 17:16:00 - [55] Originally by: Solomar Espersei Quote: ... Wolves feed on the weak, sickly, and in this case, uniformed or ill-prepared. It's a good thing I fly naked... Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
Ch4n	Posted - 2009.10.26 20:38:00 - [56] Edited by: Ch4n on 26/10/2009 20:42:24 Edited by: Ch4n on 26/10/2009 20:39:06 Hey Ninjas, what would it be worth to fleet up with a mission runner to get right to the wrecks for salvage and loot? What would you pay to get at this: Angel Extravaganza What about this: Break Their Will (Angel) Could you just scan me down? Possibly...I do finish these pretty fast, and could pop the wrecks just as quickly. But, this sounds like a potential mutually beneficial arrangement.
Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2009.10.26 21:45:00 - [57] Every time I open this forum I see this "Avoiding Ningas at Mission Hubs" and I misread it as... "Avoiding Nagas at Mission Hubs". Which always gets me thinking...well Stay out of Serp Caverns fool. ok....sorry for that intrusion into your.... "serruz buzniz"
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.10.26 23:38:00 - [58] Quote: Hey Ninjas, what would it be worth to fleet up with a mission runner to get right to the wrecks for salvage and loot? What would you pay to get at this: Angel Extravaganza What about this: Break Their Will (Angel) Could you just scan me down? Possibly...I do finish these pretty fast, and could pop the wrecks just as quickly. But, this sounds like a potential mutually beneficial arrangement. Break Their Will seems very "meh". AE is good, but is common enough. Keep in mind it takes <3 minutes for a good scanner to probe down a hit. Some newer ninjas may be interested, though...especially if you let them loot when they normally wouldn't.
Solomar Espersei Caldari Durer la Legion	Posted - 2009.10.27 00:21:00 - [59] I don't know, I think most new Ninjas would probably hit you up for an Angel mission for a 50:50 split. Honestly, it really is a shame that more MRs don't realize how much time they could save (and be on to the next mission) by simply turning over those responsibilities to the fast guys in the frigates. Hell, I've even painted targets for MRs just for the fun of it. The vast majority of noobie ninjas aren't in it for the griefing; it's the money. Simple as that.
Nodaddy Notthecupboard Amarr	Posted - 2009.10.27 00:55:00 - [60] I move to rebrand "Ninjas" to "Space Gippo's" immediately. Someone who travels around taking other peoples scrap in order to make a few quid, ninja my left nut, intergalactic pikey more like. Funny to see how people talk about there salvaging adventures and "Carebear Tears" as if they are somehow doing something hardcore. Ninja salvaging in highsec is without doubt the most risk free, carebear activity in Eve.

Jondar Valador Intergalactic Crossing Core Factor	Posted - 2009.10.27 09:59:00 - [61] Edited by: Jondar Valador on 27/10/2009 09:59:25 Originally by: Tyyfyr stupid **** I find it interesting that you dislike people which are engaging in interplayer activities in a MMO game while thinking that solo mission grinding (you are a 5 month old English murdering noob in a NPC corp) is somehow EVE endgame. I suspect you have a WoW background. Edit: page 3 snypa~
Haimar Svartblod	Posted - 2009.10.27 10:57:00 - [62] You're all people assuring each other how you indulge heavily on the other person's bodily fluids. I find this disturbing


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