Sov bill to concord (when we remember to pay them), capital and supercapital subsidies, fuel for cap ops, poses and the jb network and a ****-tonne of ship reimbursements. And in the case of certain alliances special projects like burn jita for the benefit of the community as a whole.

what is moon goo income?

Sov bill to concord (when we remember to pay them), capital and supercapital subsidies, fuel for cap ops, poses and the jb network and a ****-tonne of ship reimbursements. And in the case of certain alliances special projects like burn jita for the benefit of the community as a whole.

Let's just accept that as it is, why keep so much sov? Isn't most nullsec empty and un-upgraded?

Let's just accept that as it is, why keep so much sov? Isn't most nullsec empty and un-upgraded?

Can't speak for the south but not really in the north, pretty well utilized.

As i've never lived in null, i'm gonna ask my question here: what do those big alliances do with the trillions they make each month from moons?

I've heard about reimbursement programs, but otherwise, i've never heard of regular members getting any of that isk. I always assumed CEOs&friends got their "fair share", but that wouldn't explain why regular members would show up to defend/conquer those moons for their leadership.
please enlighten me

TEST alliance finances are open to the public.

The principle idea behind it is called communism.

like renter income except you dont have to put up with the renters ;)

you can't awox a tech moon's ratting titan, or take revenge on a blue supercap because the pilot sodomized a tech moon's girlfriend

being a slumlord is pretty sweet sometimes actually

By the way TEST alliance finances are open to the public.

Pretty sure ours are too but I cant be arsed looking for them.

never mind google it its not hard to find

I'd call it efficiency and transparency, since if the space isn't gonna be upgraded, why keep it, and if 1k guys are gonna spend hours mobilizing to take/protect a moon, i'd imagine they would want compensation.

Also, i've just thought about it a bit, and tne thing that doesn't make too much sense, is that operating costs of tech moons for example VASTLY overshadows pos fuel costs, and the other good moons make great isk too. Honestly seems fishy to me (capitalism at its best?), but then again i don't have all the information.

They are. Is it with the latest tech moon acquisitions and prices?

welp i just looked at the budget spreadsheet it looks like i broke it again, damnit

i also really need to update it

GSF buys me a new ship when I lose it in a fight over one of those tech moons. They also provide me with a jump bridge network, plenty of outposts to live in, subsidized capital modules, unlimited free rifters, and the opportunity to shoot at all these terrible, terrible pubbies.

What, exactly, fits your definition of compensation?

What this guy says^^

Also we get ship replacement for any form of pvp so meh i can deal with the tax when i never have to pay for anything.

Another thing you seem to forget is that the GSF has no CTAs, zero zilch so none of has to go and defend anything. We choose to go because fights in eve are... you know... fun?

Aren't stations/jump bridges mostly one-time expenditures? and free rifters is kind of meh, and you can pvp in any nullsec.
The only tangible benefits i see would be subsidized caps and cap mods, and could be negated by the corp tax rates, right?

Actually jump bridges take a lot of fuel when they get as much volume through them as ours do (poor GSOL) that and the upgrades needed for them add on to the sov bills.

You dont seem to get the free pvp thing. It costs me nothing to welp ships. That when spread across 9000 people takes a lot of isk.

Aren't stations/jump bridges mostly one-time expenditures? and free rifters is kind of meh, and you can pvp in any nullsec.
The only tangible benefits i see would be subsidized caps and cap mods, and could be negated by the corp tax rates, right?

that's kind of off topic, has nothing to do with repartition in null.

that wouldn't explain why regular members would show up to defend/conquer those moons for their leadership.

So goonswarm pays for you BC losses?

Goonswarm pays for all pvp losses, either in full, for official ops, or in part for just goofing off pvp.

Goonswarm pays for all pvp losses, either in full, for official ops, or in part for just goofing off pvp.

<3 Rainbow geddon reimbursement.

ah, i didn't know that, i thought it was only about alliance ops (so most likely about a moon), which is why i asked. But what about the other alliances? or is it the same for the other sexy moon owners these days?

I don't think so.
At least not if I'm processing it. :frank:

I guess this is one of these occasions where it pays off, playing an elaborate spreadsheet simulator. There must be quite a few actual accountants and such playing EVE, ready to be suckered by their alliance into turning this game into their second job.

"yo dawg i heard you make spreadsheets at work, so we got a google account, so you can spreadsheet while you spreadsheet"

I don't think so.
At least not if I'm processing it. :frank:

And in the case of certain alliances special projects like burn jita for the benefit of the community as a whole.

As i've never lived in null, i'm gonna ask my question here: what do those big alliances do with the trillions they make each month from moons?

I've heard about reimbursement programs, but otherwise, i've never heard of regular members getting any of that isk. I always assumed CEOs&friends got their "fair share", but that wouldn't explain why regular members would show up to defend/conquer those moons for their leadership.
please enlighten me

btw, since you guys are all from the SA forums, it basically means that you've all paid 10$ to join a forum, and it never occured to the 9k of you (or the rest of the SA) that there are other non-scam based forums? or to actually act in the spirit of goons, and make another forum, charge 10$ for admission? you know, like you're being scammed right now (and liking it)

btw, since you guys are all from the SA forums, it basically means that you've all paid 10$ to join a forum, and it never occured to the 9k of you (or the rest of the SA) that there are other non-scam based forums? or to actually act in the spirit of goons, and make another forum, charge 10$ for admission? you know, like you're being scammed right now (and liking it)

btw, since you guys are all from the SA forums, it basically means that you've all paid 10$ to join a forum, and it never occured to the 9k of you (or the rest of the SA) that there are other non-scam based forums? or to actually act in the spirit of goons, and make another forum, charge 10$ for admission? you know, like you're being scammed right now (and liking it)

Think of it as a haven on the internet where all the usual shitlords from the internet isnt posting.

so 10$ buys me bawsposts?

... and you tell me this now?

Not really, the post you made right there would have gotten you probationed.


(:tenbux: is protecting us from you)

I remember my introductory megathread fondly.

Sov bill to concord (when we remember to pay them), capital and supercapital subsidies, fuel for cap ops, poses and the jb network and a ****-tonne of ship reimbursements. And in the case of certain alliances special projects like burn jita for the benefit of the community as a whole.

I really have to laugh at the idea of paying $10 to read/post on an internet comedy forum, when you could read many fine sites with cool opinions and views such as Reddit, or 4chan, or even the EVE forums.

the tech in one place makes sense, when the tech isn't shared (OTEC)... goons claim to enjoy pvp, but apparently not in their home...
or maybe their leadership likes their main income source, and don't wanna give up their personal cap fleets

the tech in one place makes sense, when the tech isn't shared (OTEC)... goons claim to enjoy pvp, but apparently not in their home...
or maybe their leadership likes their main income source, and don't wanna give up their personal cap fleets

dbrb?

that's the point, you PROTECT each other's tech, instead of trying to get it for yourselves.
there should be a bunch of rocks, used to beat the other guyS senseless, not a bunch of guys sharing a pie

that's a bad sign, then, not working as intended lol

i'm sending a petition now

I'm pretty sure cooperation and teamwork are 'working as intended'.

you should edit that, if i searched i would surely find you or your leadership saying the exact opposite lol

payment is optional and is a requirement for registered members who want no ads, and being a paid member is one of the requirements for joining GSF

I've seen people pay full subscription fees to games they don't play anymore just to post on the forums.

also reddit and 4chan get a metric ton of cash from ads, but the simple fact is if you want a robust, decent, functional service for more than 20 people you need to pay cold hard cash, frequently

I really have to laugh at the idea of paying $10 to read/post on an internet comedy forum, when you could read many fine sites with cool opinions and views such as Reddit, or 4chan, or even the EVE forums.

"$10? I support a huge website that has the best games/politics/sports/gun/cooking/role play games/automobiles/music/tv/comic book forums on the Internet? But I could buy a baconactor meal for that much!"

Dont believe these lie. The lowlife member of the CFC alliance are not allowed to see even a dime of the two trillion isk a tech moon brings in each week. It is confiscated by the alliance directorate in the most complete darkness. We are forced to defend these moons during mandatory CTAs.
We have to pay 250m each month in order to fund our ship reimbursment (althrough it is a widely spread practice, even Nulli Secunda does it), and are forbidden to interract with empire. All importation and exportation have to go through the alliance, which in turn also decide of buying and selling prices. Running your own transport ship to jita is an offense worth an immediate ban from all CFC alliances.

But we still put up with that because we want to get our hand in the corp wallet

Found anything yet zxc Uisen?

Peace is death in EVE

Fully supporting this post.
Ultimately, the rank and file in nullsec lives on standards lower than even the seeping slums of lowsec are used to:
Completely subdued and drained of anything that even begins to resemble a will to resist. Only a few proud remain.
Kaesong Kosmonauts are here to spread the truth about nullsec's horrible conditions.

People need to wake up. It doesn't have to be this way.
Unlimited riches lie in space, just waiting to be spread amongst the common people.
But there are forces opposing the equality of men, lurking among the upper echelons of the biggest corporations.
Both complacent and malevolent, they control where the riches flow. And it's not where they should go.
In due time, an end will be put to this madness. There will be no choice left but to submit to the Juche way of life.
Every pilot currently in nullsec will be represented by one person, dear leader, and the masses will reign through him.
Soon, everything will change. Keep your eyes open.

Sov bill to concord (when we remember to pay them), capital and supercapital subsidies, fuel for cap ops, poses and the jb network and a ****-tonne of ship reimbursements. And in the case of certain alliances special projects like burn jita for the benefit of the community as a whole.

What is funny is that he actually believes it. lol

What is funny is that he actually believes it. lol

Fully supporting this post.
Ultimately, the rank and file in nullsec lives on standards lower than even the seeping slums of lowsec are used to:
Completely subdued and drained of anything that even begins to resemble a will to resist. Only a few proud remain.
Kaesong Kosmonauts are here to spread the truth about nullsec's horrible conditions.

People need to wake up. It doesn't have to be this way.
Unlimited riches lie in space, just waiting to be spread among the common people.
But there are forces opposing the equality of men, lurking in the upper echelons of the biggest corporations.
Both complacent and malevolent, they control where the ISK flows. And it's not where it should go.
In due time, an end will be put to this madness. There will be no choice left but to submit to the Juche way of life.
Every pilot currently in nullsec will be represented by one person, dear leader, and the masses will reign through him.
Soon, everything will change. Keep your eyes open.

We reimburse Macherial losses.

That's not a joke, we actually reimburse them under certain circumstances.