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Seralder
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Posted - 2009.11.05 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: Seralder on 05/11/2009 12:51:02
Got any news about Destroyers and Dominion?
i hope CCP makes this boat again REALLY dangerous against frigattes
the ship is at times just for lovers. 
Plz reviving the destroyer-class for PVP 
more CPU, more Energy and +1 oder +2 slots?
a second t2 version? cover-ops-destroyer? rocket/torpedo destroyer (aka stealthbomber BUT WITHOUTt cover cloak)? Interdictors are nice... but only bubble & run tactics? :(
i hope CCP dont forget the destroyer class... plz pimp my destroyer :D
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AvatarOfHope
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.11.05 12:46:00 -
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i like them how they are :)
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Every night in my dreams
I see you, I feel you,
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Alfred Lichtenstein
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Posted - 2009.11.05 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Alfred Lichtenstein on 05/11/2009 13:05:19
they are for salvaging!
and yes a big anti capital Stealth bomber would be great!
but it's never going to happen!
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Faol'gus
E X I U S
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Posted - 2009.11.05 13:18:00 -
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Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
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Seralder
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Posted - 2009.11.05 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Seralder on 05/11/2009 13:21:02
Destroyer: Salvaging gunboats. The middle ground between a frigate-salvager and a cruiser-salvager? :D
Interdictors: Bubble-class vessels, designed to bubble and escape in warp? :D
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.05 13:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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Liz Laser
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:16:00 -
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CCP likes its subscriptions too much to grant a buff to the suicide ganker's favorite ship.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:23:00 -
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Sniper BCs do just as well, have better range, and have more power. Destroyers are just below the weakest cruisers across the board. There is nowhere to buff them to IMO, esp. when their T2 counterparts can easily fit a decent sniper build in addition to carrying the usual payload of disrupt probes.
My advice: L2T2
{...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness} |
Hellotherehowareyou
Band of Bastards
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:34:00 -
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Sniper BSs do just as well, have better range, and have more power. Destroyers are just below the weakest cruisers across the board. There is nowhere to buff them to IMO, esp. when their T2 counterparts can easily fit a decent sniper build in addition to carrying the usual payload of disrupt probes.
My advice: L2T2 |
Ashani Osaka
Amarr
Ethereal Acolytes
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:44:00 -
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ive always liked the idea of destroyers, they destroy things.
fundamentaly theyre a piece of paper with guns on it, thats what theyre supposed to be.
As for pvp, theyre dinfatly not a solo ship, the idea is simple, have a ship that can move fast + track fast enough to take down frigates. of course in a 1v1 this isnt going to happen, frigates can be set up to have a decent tank for 1, but in a fleet for example, a unsuspecting Ewar frig trying to jam the hell out of sniper boats is going to get a nasty kick up the bum.
sure a bs or a cruiser could do it, but its about speed + tracking when your chasing a frig, and these things can bite.
Even tho theyre designed for pve, lvl 1's + 2's, i still think this ship has more roles then people think. just stop trying to use it as a cruiser subsitute.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:09:00 -
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For a T1 ship the a good.
The problem is they need a real T2 version. The interdictor is fine as an oddball special purpose ships but there should be a T2 destroyer that offers destroyer damage with a and somewhat improved survivability.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Anonymous Gallentean
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:15:00 -
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Sniper Titans do just as well, have better range, and have more power. Destroyers are just below the weakest cruisers across the board. There is nowhere to buff them to IMO, esp. when their T2 counterparts can easily fit a decent sniper build in addition to carrying the usual payload of disrupt probes.
My advice: L2CAP |
Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Anonymous Gallentean
There is nowhere to buff them to IMO
One way: Make them rocket boats. (Of course I'm thinking Caldari, maybe blasters for the other races.)
People hate rockets enough as it is, but give bonuses to destroyers to make them the one ship it really works to put rockets on. They won't have to fix rockets, just make them usable on a few ships.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Tactical Command Sector
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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To be quite frank, all of those fits are horrible.
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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If it weren't for the terrible fits on these dessies I think I'd cry, Destroyers are great ships in the hands of someone who knows how to fit and fly one correctly. I'd say a good 75% of all my kills have been in a thrasher.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:42:00 -
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Curses I'm rumbled
Yes those were terrible fits.
I still like the first kill regardless. Go go Maulus ♥
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Liz Laser
CCP likes its subscriptions too much to grant a buff to the suicide ganker's favorite ship.
lol the truth here.
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Stupid McStupidson
Gallente
Hoek Lyne and Sinker
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Anonymous Gallentean
Sniper Titans do just as well, have better range, and have more power. Destroyers are just below the weakest cruisers across the board. There is nowhere to buff them to IMO, esp. when their T2 counterparts can easily fit a decent sniper build in addition to carrying the usual payload of disrupt probes.
My advice: L2CAP
Oh man, it seems this one has run it's course.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.11.05 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Seralder
cover-ops-destroyer?
actually i would love to see this in game. would be an interesting addition to say the least.
want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2009.11.05 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 05/11/2009 19:05:02
Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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Yup, it's true!
Yup, dessies can kill frigs pretty easily.
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Killljoy
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Posted - 2009.11.05 21:01:00 -
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A T2 anti-cloaker ship would fit well in the destroyer range.
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Zeredek
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Posted - 2009.11.05 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 05/11/2009 19:05:02
Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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Yup, it's true!
Yup, dessies can kill frigs pretty easily.
I like how a pod was in involved parties and it's weapon was a 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.05 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zeredek
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 05/11/2009 19:05:02
Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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Yup, it's true!
Yup, dessies can kill frigs pretty easily.
I like how a pod was in involved parties and it's weapon was a 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
Common bug. What of it?
I like the ones where titans are killed and on the killmails of the people they doomsdayed it lists a pod using Gjallarhorn or Judgement or Aurora Ominae or whatever.
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
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Foraven
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.05 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
I use a Catalyst and it's subpar against frigates due to power grid issues (try to load good hybrids on it, it's a pain). I could load it with auto cannons, but then i would be better to use a thrasher instead. Strangely enough, the thrasher has better power grid than the Catalyst...
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Panzram
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.05 22:31:00 -
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the proposed changes to projectiles will make the suicide thrasher more effective
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.11.05 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zeredek
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 05/11/2009 19:05:02
Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Faol'gus
Eh? Destroyers are fantastic for killing frigates both long range and short range.
Is
that
so
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Yup, it's true!
Yup, dessies can kill frigs pretty easily.
I like how a pod was in involved parties and it's weapon was a 280mm Howitzer Artillery I
Actually that guy was getting kited by the sentinel and caused no damage, i was in fleet with him as we were scouting around looking for plexs and saw him call to help. He did zero damage on the EW frig but i managed to jump in right on top and blast away. As i jumped in, a rifter appeared and started hitting me. But i got the sentinel and then died to the rifter.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Clown Punchers.
Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.11.05 22:56:00 -
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Is this thread really happening?
Please please boost destroyers, they are TERRIBLE. 
Totally need a boost. Please CCP, make these monsters of the alpha even more capable at wtfbbq'ing ceptors. Cause you know, they suck. |
Foraven
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.05 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard
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Is this thread really happening?
Please please boost destroyers, they are TERRIBLE.
Totally need a boost. Please CCP, make these monsters of the alpha even more capable at wtfbbq'ing ceptors. Cause you know, they suck.
I DO consider Destroyers terrible, don't know why you think they are overpowered (expet maybe the thrasher). If they are capable of webbing interceptors, that's what they are meant for, interceptor are frigate sized and destroyer are supposed to kill them. But my experience with my Catalyst is that that ship is at the bottom of the food chain...
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Ralnik
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.05 23:37:00 -
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Personally, I think Dessies are a bit overpowered. They can very easily dispatch up to 3 to 4 frigs before the frigs can kill the Dessie. That is unless the guy in the Dessie it a complete tard.
If I'm in a frig, I'll attack a cruiser before I'd even think about touching a destroyer unless the pilot is a total noob.
Much the same if I'm in a Cruiser, I'd attack a BS before I'd even think of a attacking a BC.
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.11.05 23:53:00 -
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I think destroyers are still very powerful frig killers. Its a very cheap ship and its able to be a serious threat even to T2 AF ships. I know it because my Wolf almost got eaten by a destroyer. Destroyers are awesome for low level missions against other frigs. Do you seriously want a destroyer to be able to smash T2 frigs like a hammer a coconut? Would be pretty unbalanced, because a destroyer is a cheap ship mainly for rookies and for that matter its just awesome.
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