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Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.11.12 03:27:00 - [1] The recent threads on active and passive tanking for armor and shields have been good. But I recall seeing some time back a reference to structure tanking and the use of Damage Control modules. And of course there are midslot hull repair mods. But who uses those? (> Looks at ground ) What is structure tanking? Is this an industrial ship thing? What ships is this good for, and what would a structure tank fitting look like (stats too)? It is even possible?
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.11.12 03:36:00 - [2] Structure tanking is pure gimmick. Though it would make for an 'oh snap!' baitship. Repairing it afterward would take awhile though. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.11.12 03:51:00 - [3] structure tanking the a very viable buffer tank for when you dont want your ship to live but want to have the opponents waste time on it. basically, fill all lowslots with reinforced bulkheads, and then put on a DCII. this gives you insane amounts of EHP, and takes NO powergrid, leaving space open for high damage stuff. alos leaves rig slots open just numbers off the top of my head: moros with hull tank - 3.2m EHP navy mega - 210k EHP (more than a freighter) domi - 33600k structure. (cant remember the stats) i also tested before the nag buff and found that a hull buffer was the best way of tanking it for buffer. last thing: structure and shield buffering capitals is going to be the ONLY way to make a DD proof ship, with the archon breaking 3m EHP with a shield/hull tank and the thanatos having a 2.8m EHP shield/hull tank. those 2 capitals are the only ones that will be capable of standing up to a DD after dominion. want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
Spaztick Terminal Impact Kairakau	Posted - 2009.11.12 04:49:00 - [4] Edited by: Spaztick on 12/11/2009 04:49:20 Originally by: Trustworthy Joe those 2 capitals are the only ones that will be capable of standing up to a DD after dominion. I just fit out a Nag with over 4 million EHP, what version EFT are you playing?
Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.11.12 04:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Spaztick Edited by: Spaztick on 12/11/2009 04:49:20 Originally by: Trustworthy Joe those 2 capitals are the only ones that will be capable of standing up to a DD after dominion. I just fit out a Nag with over 4 million EHP, what version EFT are you playing? err, my bad, i meant carriers. want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
steveid Helljumpers	Posted - 2009.11.12 05:00:00 - [6] the only ships i can think of that strucutre tanks on purpose in pvp is the taranis as it has a lot of structure hitpoints and with a DC II its strucutre amounts to twice its shield and armor. Anything else is gimmik tbh but you will see it. Inappropriate signature removed. Zymurgist
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.12 05:09:00 - [7] Real men hull tank. Just check the certificate in game. Sadly the logic follows that only some Gallente pilots are real men, however...
Dacryphile	Posted - 2009.11.12 05:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Seriously Bored Real men hull tank. Just check the certificate in game. Sadly the logic follows that only some Gallente pilots are real men, however... Verifying that only the elite structure tank. Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2009.11.12 08:11:00 - [9] Brutix can structure tank pretty well. Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
Zar Terra MacroIntel MACHI MISCHIEF	Posted - 2009.11.12 08:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Dacryphile Originally by: Seriously Bored Real men hull tank. Just check the certificate in game. Sadly the logic follows that only some Gallente pilots are real men, however... Verifying that only the elite structure tank. REAL men Pod tank... -= NightShifter =- Originally by: Dirk Magnum On the one hand I love a metaphorical trainwreck but come on. This is sort of like crashing a plane on top of a train that's already wrecked.

lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2009.11.12 08:53:00 - [11] You mean like this? Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think? Originally by: AFK Cloaker
Victriferusianus	Posted - 2009.11.12 12:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Zar Terra Originally by: Dacryphile Originally by: Seriously Bored Real men hull tank. Just check the certificate in game. Sadly the logic follows that only some Gallente pilots are real men, however... Verifying that only the elite structure tank. REAL men Pod tank... No, no, no. Real men Honor tank.
Steve Celeste Caldari More-Cowbell	Posted - 2009.11.12 13:18:00 - [13] Real men hero tank.
Skippermonkey	Posted - 2009.11.12 13:33:00 - [14] Tank beats EVERYTHING! ...Ohwait, wrong game
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.12 14:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Victriferusianus No, no, no. Real men Honor tank. I guess, but I've only heard of anyone pulling it off in a Rev.
Petra Katell Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.11.12 14:47:00 - [16] [Dominix, Hull] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Scrambler II Warp Disruptor II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 ECCM - Magnetometric II Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Energy Neutralizer II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Flown, killed and died in it. It's a cheap ship and worth the wtf factor. If you don't want to repair it, self destruct it.
Janae Velius	Posted - 2009.11.12 18:30:00 - [17] Although good for comedy, hull tanks seldom add anything to a ship. Just running some EFT numbers, if you are trying to get some uber EHP then you are almost always better off with a massive stack of plates. Better for your speed/agility too weirdly enough. Sure you need fitting for plates, but still.
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.11.12 19:11:00 - [18] The Taranis hull tanks: more structure HP than armour (by a lot) + 60% resists from a DC being better than its armour resists. I once saw a crazy hull tank fit for a Domi as well. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Shidhe Minmatar The Babylon5 Consortuim	Posted - 2009.11.12 19:13:00 - [19] In the beginning structure tanking was an in joke. Then CCP changed things to make it almost not a joke...
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2009.11.12 19:47:00 - [20] Your modules can take damage when you structure tank. I've had this happen in an Orca (which is mostly structure). Orca won, Legion and Hound lost (to POS guns).

HiRider Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction	Posted - 2009.11.12 19:58:00 - [21] Structure tanking is not bad for a bait ship, if that bait ship is gallente, since they tend to have more structure. .
Miss Xoco Minmatar Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.13 03:39:00 - [22] Edited by: Miss Xoco on 13/11/2009 03:40:05 Sounds like a illusion to me. A structure repper is still the repper with the lowest efficiency, and no ship ever will have any structure repper bonus nor any rigs for supporting it. The HP just need to be strong enough to buffer damage spikes. But when the repper is to weak a huge buffer wont help for long, so i dont see much sense into having crazy amount of hull HP to support a repair. Be a real man, im sure some women loving you for it.
Shazard Gallente Intaki Liberation Front	Posted - 2009.11.13 09:17:00 - [23] Some EFT warrioring [Dominix, Hull] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive I Heavy F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 800 X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Disruptor I Supplemental Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Large Proton Smartbomb I Ancillary Current Router II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Ogre II x5 There are brave ones. And then there are those whom the brave ones will follow.
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned Hellstrome Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.13 11:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Miss Xoco Edited by: Miss Xoco on 13/11/2009 03:40:05 Sounds like a illusion to me. A structure repper is still the repper with the lowest efficiency, and no ship ever will have any structure repper bonus nor any rigs for supporting it. The HP just need to be strong enough to buffer damage spikes. But when the repper is to weak a huge buffer wont help for long, so i dont see much sense into having crazy amount of hull HP to support a repair. Be a real man, im sure some women loving you for it. PVP is all about the Buffer and Effective Hitpoints, if you can kill the enemy before he gets through all your hitpoints you win. None of the hull tanks rely on a structure repairer. Its about staying alive longer then your enemy. Which is why hull tanking the taranis works, Taranis does nice DPS (for a ceptor) and has big structure HP. A well flown (hull tanked) tarranis can kill many types of ships. ~~~ [ 2009.02.05 09:37:43 ] Louis Trenker > - Who's ship is this?- It's a Titan baby.- Who's Titan is this?- BoB's.- Who's BoB?- BoB's dead baby! BoB's dead!
Dandy Lyon	Posted - 2009.11.13 15:27:00 - [25] I structure tank my Orca. It's not exactly what I'd call a pvp fit though. :) I put a tech 2 dcu in a low slot, 2 tech 2 hull repairs in the middle. Because of the size of the hull on this ship, you gotta pound on me a while to kill me. Since it almost never leaves high sec, it's pretty effective.
Mike712	Posted - 2009.11.13 17:08:00 - [26] The Best Hull Tank Ever ^Nuff said really.
SharpMango The Khanates	Posted - 2009.11.13 18:04:00 - [27] Wannabe real men demand structure tanking rigs
Illectroculus Defined	Posted - 2009.11.13 20:53:00 - [28] A lot of industrial type ships have more HP in structure than in shield or armour - the Orca and hulk both gain more buffer by fitting a damage control vs a full rack of shield mods.
Gibbo5771	Posted - 2009.11.13 21:01:00 - [29] Edited by: Gibbo5771 on 13/11/2009 21:03:47 Real men don't tank, magstabs and tracking enhancers is the **** (Omg it blocks out sh*z)
Shade Millith Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.14 00:29:00 - [30] [Dominix, Neut Domi] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Something I've used occasionally. Get's 103k EHP, 4 heavy neuts/2 medium, runs everything except the MWD for as long as you have cap charges with the single cap booster, point/dual web/MWD. --------------------------------------------



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